Quincy Black gets 2 years, 6 months in the can / blogging vacation over

Seoul Central District Court handed former American English teacher and would-be porn star Quincy Black (stage name, I’m assuming) a two year, six month prison sentence on July 18.

Coming to Korea in 2009 to teach English, Mr. Black brought a 15-year-old girl (that’s 15 Korean age, meaning she was actually 14) he met on a chatting site in 2010 back to his place and had sex with her, recording the experience with three previously installed cameras and one hand-held camera.

He later did the same to a woman in her 30s.

In its ruling the court said Black’s crime was very bad—the victim was a minor and the offender was a native speaking teacher tasked with teaching English to elementary school students who forgot his duty to foster good sexual values in children and youth and to protect and lead.

The bench also noted the victims had suffered considerable psychological distress due to the release of the videos—the minor left for abroad after experiencing difficulties in her daily life, while the adult victim had yet to forgive Mr. Black.

The court did lessen his sentence, though, taking into consideration the fact that he’d deposited some KRW 9 million for the victims and had no criminal record during his stay in Korea.

Mr. Black will be deported after his prison sentence is up.

ABOUT MY PERSONAL LACK OF BLOGGING…

As a friend recently pointed out to me, it’s been something like a month since I’ve posted anything of substance here.

I apologize for that, but to be perfectly honest, I needed a break.

I’ve been maintaining this blog since 2003, and rest assured, I have no intention of shutting it down anytime soon. I enjoy doing it, and I’m very grateful to the readers, commenters and especially the co-bloggers who have made this little piece of cyberspace into something moderately entertaining at times and, on rare occasions, even mildly informative.

That said, it does feel like work at times, and like with work, you sometimes need a vacation to recharge. This is doubly so when your actual work-work includes being the editor-in-chief of two magazines, translating one book and writing another. Simultaneously.

It’s also no secret that I’ve been spending a considerable amount of effort on my photoblog, where I’ve been in the midst of a 365 project.

Anyway, I’m rested and ready now, so back to blogging I go.

I want to thank once again my co-bloggers for keeping the ship afloat (probably a bad analogy, considering recent events) while I went on an unannounced vacation. WIthout your help, this blog would have died long ago.

  • Dan Strickland

    Regarding vacations – well-said, and well done.

  • redwhitedude

    What happens in Korea should not just stay in Korea. I hope people note what he did back in the states.

  • WMunny

    Has there been confirmation regarding whether the girl was 15 Korean age or Western age? I can’t imagine the newspapers not taking the opportunity to put “14” (or “13”!) in their headlines.

  • RElgin

    Yes Robert, we kept your “ship afloat”, even though you can *imagine* our surprise when we realized the owner of this blog also does artistic photos.
    I draw the line at helping you with the Marmot Church, however.

  • A Korean

    All talk and no action. Where are the boob posts? Korea ran out of boobs?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    I’m still not sure what law the Korean prosecutor charged him with and Korean court convicted him of. Don’t get me wrong: As an American, I find that he still offends my cultural and legal frameworks, but

    In its ruling the court said Black’s crime was very bad—the victim was a minor and the offender was a native speaking teacher tasked with teaching English to elementary school students who forgot his duty to foster good sexual values in children and youth and to protect and lead.

    Did the court find that QB seduced and took advantage of one of his students?

    The facts are that QB had consensual sexual relations with two people who had the legal ability to consent by the laws of the land. I understand that at least one necessarily knew she was being filmed because she held the camera. Perhaps QB published the videos without their consent, but that’s another matter separate from what he seems to have been convicted of.

    What I find odd is that no one else has raised these questions (or has done so and hit post). I suspect that the reason is that most of us culturally, regardless of what Korean law says, view one of his partners as a child, and he therefore deserves prison. If so, then why can’t we make the distinction?

  • bigmamat

    Can a 14 year old give consent?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Under Korean law, generally the age of consent is 13. In 2011, Korea enacted the Act on the Protection of Children and Juveniles from Sexual Abuse, which supersedes the general law. Under The Act, those who engage in sexual relations with a minor (defined as younger than Korean age 20) by force (which Korean courts interpret not only as using physical force but also as being physically stronger, being older, having more money, being a government employee, or having anything that can put a person in a better position than the juvenile), are considered to have raped the minor.

    I guess they got him on using his superior age.

    I don’t know what they got him for in the case of the adult. If he published the video of him having consensual sex with the adult, then they should have charged him with that.

  • Aja Aja

    Holding up the camera and knowing that she was being filmed, gives no rights to Mr. Black to release that private moment’s video to the world. If the woman did not give consent to the man to release the video, he should not have done it. It’s not against the law to make porn videos for your own private pleasure, but it is against the law to make and release porn videos for the public. So that’s one violation against the law. Second, it’s against the law to have sex with a minor, even though the old law says the cutoff limit is 13. The 2011 bill passed by the parliament (after much publicized cases of child abuses), to protect children against sexual predators and abusers says that you cannot have sex with minors who are under the age 19. So for all those excusers who use the age of consent from the old days, are out of luck.

  • Aja Aja

    It’s called rape.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    I agree with you about him publishing the video without her consent. I think that he should have been charged with that, particularly in the case of the adult, rather than something else, if that was indeed the case.

  • bigmamat

    I get that, but I just wanted to understand the law. Along with the comment about age of consent.

  • Tapp

    Wait. Are you saying he was charged for a crime he committed in 2010 with a law that wasn’t passed until 2011? Am I reading that correctly?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    He must have had the worst lawyer evah.

  • RElgin

    Having a bad lawyer in a land that has serious problems enforcing ANY rules is quite a stretch.
    What galls me is that the police and local government can not and will not enforce laws regarding illegal posting of advertisement – let alone overloading boats – yet there is the energy to get this guy.

    How about enforcing ALL the laws, no matter what!?

  • wangkon936

    “I want to thank once again my co-bloggers…”

    Company sponsored dinner and night of free booze at The Wolfhound this coming Friday night, right?

  • Aja Aja

    Well if you read the Korean article, he wasn’t charged with molesting a minor. He was charged with making and distributing pornographic material, including the scenes involving a minor. All I’m saying is that the 13 year old minimum age excuse no longer holds true, especially in light of the cases involving Korean celebrities like Ko Young Wook (former member of the 90’s Kpop group Roor’a) who was in a storm of press interest after he got charged with having sex with minors and who is now in prison.

  • Aja Aja

    Here, read the law yourself and try to understand it.

    http://english.mogef.go.kr/eng_laws/laws_16.html

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Rest assured, I have no plans—at least immediately—to enter the passenger shipping industry.

    PS: I think my landscape work is better than Ahae’s. And my future output will certainly be better than his.

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Judging from this summer’s fashions, no.

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Hey, whenever you’re in town.

  • Cloudfive

    Speaking of your photos, have you had a gallery show? If you do, please announce it here so we can attend. If not, surely you are due one in Sinsa-dong and it probably won’t cost you a million $$ to get it.

  • A Korean

    Especially if they have boobs.

  • tatertot

    Is Quincy Black from the United States? If he is, won’t he be prosecuted for having sex with a minor once he is deported from Korea and returned to the US? I would expect his punishment then will be much more than 2 1/2 years, and it is my understanding that the general prison population doesn’t take kindly to child molesters.

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Thanks, sir. I did get one shot on exhibit recently (it’s the Insa-dong shot towards the end of the gallery):

    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/04/travel/gallery/seoul-photo-show/

    But most of those guys are much more deserving of shows than me.

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Well, that’s not the kind of mountainous landscape I’m used to shooting, but I’m sure the skill set is pretty much the same.

  • RElgin

    Child molesters, in an American prison, would likely end up dead.

  • Sumo294

    Korean jails are quiet places, if you have problems being quiet there are a lot of inmates who will help you learn your place in the Korean jail community.

  • BSDetector

    Hmm much arguscussion over something that’s pretty clear. The guy committed a crime and was sentanced in accordance with the law. We’ll see QB in 2 1/2 years outside the prision eating some tofu. Maybe he’ll decorate his cell with photos from `the Hole’s Photo Blog.

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    And fine cell decorations they would be. In fact, he can buy the high-res shots on my Smugmug account to print posters, if he so desires.

  • BSDetector

    You have that long exposure of Dongdaemun at night on there? I can’t see the site from behind USFK’s evil proxy…

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Got quite a bit from Dongdamun up there:

    http://rjkoehler.smugmug.com/Travel/Dongdaemun-Design-Plaza/

  • bumfromkorea

    False dichotomy often leads to questionable comments that may be interpreted by others as excusing this piece of shit’s action by pointing at the other illegal activities that aren’t being effectively pursued.

  • I AM IN ODE

    Korean Law is not something to be proud of. No one is jumping around yelling “Fighting” about Korean law.

  • redwhitedude

    Quincy Black must be pretty deflated if his weenie is only worth 2 years and 6 months.

  • redwhitedude

    But it is better than a lot of countries that are surrounding it.

  • wangkon936

    Need to master indoor (and studio) lighting. That’s the main difference.

  • redwhitedude

    What I find galling is that people decide to meet over chat and even engage in sex. Ignorance. Total ignorance on the girl side. Parents need to do a better job on education about dealing with people online and sex ed. I know the last part is a bit tough and people tend to shy away with it but it must be done.

  • wangkon936

    Mr. A Korean is in full dirty old man mode.

  • wangkon936

    Korean boob technology has been lagging Western countries since the dawn of history. However, slim hairless leg technology has been quite world leading for sometime now.

  • Aja Aja

    It’s a pretty heavy sentence for making and distributing porn material including kiddie porn. For Korea that is. Lest someone think this is because he’s a foreigner, take this case of murder involving a Korean murderer who just got 35 years to life in prison for murder.

    http://imnews.imbc.com/replay/2014/nwdesk/article/3501694_13490.html

    Not too long ago, he would have gotten 5 to 10 years for the same crime, but in the last couple of years, Korean courts are finally begun to give out much harsher sentences in line with the new recent bills regarding court sentences, as well as public demand for cracking down with harsher punishment. I hope this pattern continues.

  • Tapp

    I cannot read the Korean article and I was still confused on what he had actually been convicted of doing. Thanks for the clarification.

  • Tapp

    His crime would be considered statutory… not child molestation. Child molesters do have a hard time in prison, but that situation usually doesn’t apply to someone having consensual sex with a post-pubescent, developed girl. Still illegal and still very, very wrong in my mind, but he would not get the same beating (or worse) that he would have received if the girl was 7 or 8.

    On the first question, I think the US generally leaves it to the local government and their court system. I know the law does exist, but I think it’s more in place for those that got away with the crime and escaped prosecution in the country where it occurred. I don’t know that for sure, but I feel like I’ve heard it explained that way in the past.

  • DC Musicfreak

    Why is “Korean age” even used in modern courses of law and media?

  • Aaron

    I’m so glad I didn’t fap to this porn when I came across it a year ago

  • smithington

    It’s not and if the paper is saying she was 15, she was 15, her actual age. It’s a case about the law and in the law they use real ages.

  • smithington

    The law doesn’t in fact say that. Please stop spreading misinformation. The law outlines several crimes against minors but in no place says that someone over the age of 19 can’t have sex with someone under the age of 19.

  • smithington

    He was, he was convicted of making and distributing porn without permission. He was not charged with and convicted of having sex with a minor.

  • smithington

    and there are plenty of parts of it that are better than a lot of the countries most expats come from.