• Sumo294

    Eye candy at its best!!!!!

  • Ajoshi123

    If a sport is so boring they need to put eye candy on it to make it interesting count me out.

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    I could watch these all day.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Although I do not fault Uncle Marmot for blogging on a story in the news, I do fault news organizations for objectifying women for making this a news story.

    If I had seen this live (either in person or on TV), I too would have been happily titillated even going so far as to plan a romantic fantasy around the fortuitous happenstance later in the evening. I’m a guy.

    Unlike Shin Soo-Ji’s gold standard first pitch that displayed genuine talent, making a news story of this pitch, which didn’t even offer the air cover of being near the plate, does nothing more than objectify women. Shin Soo-Ji’s first pitch would have been newsworthy had Soo-Ji been a troll. What makes this first pitch worthy?

  • AllKpop<3Ailee'sBoobies

    Objectify women? Another social justice warrior.

    Stop defending women who don’t need defending. No one made this woman throw the first pitch; she is promoting herself and using the pitch to further her career. And she has full agency to make that decision for herself (and live with the consequences, no matter what they are).

    Stop with the white knighting. Cause if anyone is being sexist here, it’s you. Stop telling women what they can ( and in this case, cannot) do.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    I didn’t tell her what she could or could not do. I objected to the news media objectifying women. If indeed she did this to promoter herself, “using the pitch to further her career”, as you posted, that’s her decision.

    I objected to the news media objectifying her, even if she had objectified herself. There’s a difference between a woman objectifying herself (if that is indeed what she decided to do) and institutions objectifying women.

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    I agree that this objectifies the women. But judging from their low-cut tops and the way they stick out their asses and chests, these girls want the attention. And I’ll happily give it to them.

    Objectifying a smart, talented woman like Sofia Coppola (random example) would be crude. But objectifying Clara, this girl in the post, or any similar K-pop drama or idol star, be it a man or woman, is exactly what most of them want. If their primary (or sole) asset is their appearance, it’s no wonder why they are objectified.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    MiG, I might be splitting hairs here, but I do not object to a woman objectifying herself (at least not philosophically; I accept a woman has an individual right to objectify herself). I object to institutions (in this case, the media) objectifying women.

  • redwhitedude

    Apparently that Ryu guy is importing Korean first pitches to the US via LA Dodgers.

  • redwhitedude

    “But objectifying Clara, this girl in the post, or any similar K-pop
    drama or idol star, be it a man or woman, is exactly what most of them
    want. If their primary (or sole) asset is their appearance, it’s no
    wonder why they are objectified.”

    You just described the girls that are involved involved in Kpop.

  • Sumo294

    Wow–whoa easy there! Joe is a sensitive male–he needs a lot of lube and hugs. He took very challenging courses in college such as English Lit and Journalism 101–his compassion for dying trees causes him daily pain. I cut a small tree down today and I just knew that Joe would be in serious pain and agony.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Sumo294 AllKpop: “Wow–whoa easy there! Joe is a sensitive male…..”

    I’ve for the longest time claimed such to my wife, but she doesn’t believe to the point of mocking me.

    “He took very challenging courses in college such as English Lit and Journalism 101….”

    I’m complimented that you thinks so, particularly since I most certainly did not, have degrees in subjects that most English lit majors and writers eschew, and have in my posting history demonstrated a knowledge base (dare I say “expertise”?) in two dissimilar disciplines and disciplines dissimilar to English Lit and Journalism.

    Reread my posts in this thread. I’ve made two points: although a woman might have a right to objectify herself, media organizations don’t have the right to objectify women. Her first pitch sold nothing except her sexuality.

    I disagreed with OP respectfully even though I did not respect his opinion and gave a reasoned response. Do you think you could Fisk my response, dog?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    …which makes me wonder the difference between two much more famous and talented guys who made nearly similar first pitches and Yang Hana.

    Here’s Curtis Jackson (aka, 50 Cent) making his first pitch (“…just a bit outside.”)

    …and here’s Carl Lewis, the one-time best athlete on the planet.

    They were roundly ridiculted. Apparently, they had more to sell than their short-term sexuality and were expected to be able to throw a baseball at a ceremonial first pitch.

  • wangkon936

    Leave it to the married man to ruin everyone else’s buzz. That’s why nobody invites you to the MTs Anonymous_Joe… 😉

  • wangkon936

    You don’t like baseball? You must be Canadian.

  • Sumo294

    “dog”? There is no need for cussing. That is very strong, aggressive and unnecessary use of a word. Since you are aware of Korean culture–the word “dog” is the worst type of insult you can use in Korea. I thought you function as a moderator on the MH–why the lack of civility?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Lol… Look at your picture. I referred to you as “dog” in the same way others refer to Baduk as “that crazy cat”.

  • djson1

    Maybe it IS objectifying women via baseball, but it’s there and only gets more omnipresent because we all (at least many of us) pay attention to it. If this stuff irks you in any way, don’t promote it or look at it. It’s like that episode of the Simpsons “Just Don’t Look”: http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Just_Don't_Look
    Personally, it’s good eye candy though.

  • Sumo294

    I find it interesting that you take great care in respecting the so called rights of women not to be objectified but lack any commonsense in the use of the word “dog” in Korean culture. If you are employed in Korea and esp. if you are married to a Korean woman–you should be aware that to refer to someone as a “dog” is an egregious and unforgivable slur and one the worst type of cuss words you can call someone of Korean heritage. You do not use the word “dog” even in a playful context in Korea. For example, you would never say to a woman that she looks like a cute dog. Why the lack of civility? Are you not a moderator?

  • djson1

    Yeah..that 50cent pitch…wow. It almost looked like he was trying to throw to the photographer. I think LA Laker Swaggy P (Nick Young) also proved he was horrible in baseball too. http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/4/23/5646180/nick-young-throws-out-the-first-pitch-at-a-dodgers-game-is-a-swaggy-p

    Didn’t these guys grow up in the U.S.? I thought all Americans could at least throw a baseball.

  • djson1

    Maybe it’s time Korea comes up with their own version of the AAGPBL (AKGPBL?)….wow…those are some messy letters/acronyms. But imagine the sponsors they could drum up! I’d watch it!

  • djson1

    Wait…Canadians have some great ballplayers. I think you meant British.

  • djson1

    Nothing is too exciting (un-boring) that it can’t use a little eye-candy. Even the NBA with all its Showtime and Lob City action uses eye candy cheerleaders.

  • wangkon936

    That’s right. We don’t want any stinking “Korean culture” via pitching.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Again, missing my point. It’s one thing for us to post these to YouTube or fap to them; it’s another for media outlets such as CBS Sports to do it. When CBS Sports does it, it’s institutionalized.

  • djson1

    True…I understand your point. But then again, to my point, media outlets like ESPN and CBS (not to mention all the Korean companies) show this stuff because many people watch it. If the research was there to prove that CBS sports viewers didn’t like this stuff, they wouldn’t be posting/showing it (I believe).

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Duder, calling someone “dog” is a 90’s version of 80’s “homeboy”. You know, “what up, dog?”

    I could go along that you’re not trolling if your avatar were not a picture of a dog. …BTW, wasn’t your original post to me a non-sequiter ad hominem that I was too sensitive?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    …and they’re businesses. I understand. P.T. Barnum’s bromide that “nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people” is apparently universal.

  • djson1

    I’m not sure how ratings work, but I always make it a habit to quickly change the channel on TV or on the radio if I don’t like something..hoping there’s a way that the stations can track viewers switching away when something specific comes on. I don’t know if that makes a difference, but I’d rather do that then stay on something that annoys me.

  • Sumo294

    This a blog about Korean culture–you are a moderator chosen because you understand Korean culture. You used the word ‘dog’ willfully and purposefully for the reason of insulting me. The fact that would ignore Korean cultural sensitivity when it suits you means you are unkind and lack compassion. Why the lack of civility? Are you qualified to be a moderator at the MH?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Ahhh… I see the problem. I assure you that I make no pretense to claiming an understanding of Korean culture. Much like others who have been here in the ‘tween (as in ‘tween their first year and long term), I thought I understood Korean culture more in my first two years here than I am certain how much I understand now.

    …and as far as the qualifications, have ya followed the other mods?

    Thanks for the giggles and grins. G’nite.

  • wangkon936

    Perhaps I can be a bit of a peacekeeper here. AJ, did you happen to mean dog as in dawgg?

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dawgg

  • redwhitedude

    I’m surprised some fatso like Ryu would do able to do that. He should be doing to pitching via Subway, Jenny Craig and so forth.

    You can tell how hard he is trying he had Tiffany throw a first pitch, then this girl Suzy do it. Heck he might as well invite the entire Kcon thing over.

  • wangkon936

    The spelling for that would be “dawg.”

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dawg

    “Dawgg” would be acceptable too:

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dawgg

    AJ’s explanation sounds legit to me, although him originally not using the correct spelling probably lead to the confusion.. Let’s all move on people.

  • redwhitedude

    Cleveland Brown fan??

  • redwhitedude

    There certain lack of skankiness in Korean. Look up Larissa Riquelme.

  • cactusmcharris

    You arsed it up again. Think Toronto Blue Jays and stick with defending the homeland.

  • wangkon936
  • wangkon936

    Hummm…. does Canada have a great ballplayers or do Canadian teams have great ballplayers who happen to have citizenship elsewhere.

  • Sumo294

    You urge others to be more culturally sensitive but you yourself out of willful ignorance use dreadful and low insults to anyone who is Korean by using the word ‘dog’. You are a typical liberal hypocrite where you urge others to be ‘enlightened’ but you yourself are insensitive to another person’s culture. It makes it worse that as a moderator at the MH you should at least be aware of basic Korean culture. You claim to be a morally good man–but you make no effort to understand the Korean point of view despite working in Korea and being married to a Korean woman. You lack compassion, you are unkind and the question is–are you fit to be a moderator at the MH?

  • wangkon936

    Dude, let it go.

  • redwhitedude

    Let it go. Let it go. That goddam song I’m sick of hearing from Frozen. It keeps ringing in my head.

  • redwhitedude

    Officially it is Lacrosse the national sport.

  • wangkon936

    The movie ruined the expression.

  • A Korean

    :)

    You crack me up, sumo. I was hoping you and aj would keep it up bit longer.

  • bumfromkorea

    Forget baseball. It’s all about the football – both kinds.

  • redwhitedude

    I haven’t watched the movie, but I already know it has annoying music.

  • felddog13

    I love cheesecake fluff as much as anyone, but the KBO absolutely objectifies women with their 1st pitches, the cheerleaders and the skimpily-dressed ball and bat girls, The media aids and abets. Korea is definitely improving with providing girls pathways for success outside of shaking their money makers, but it’s got a longs way to go.

  • cactusmcharris

    Considering a Canadian team hasn’t won the Stanley Cup in 20 years, possibly.

  • cactusmcharris

    I think you’re trolling, WK, and I try not to feed trolls, even willfully ignorant ones.

  • wangkon936

    I must be rubbing you the wrong way somehow. Well if you are not willing to put your cards on the table, then you don’t deserve any behavioral adjustment on my end.

  • bumfromkorea

    I’m not sure if there have been improvements in that front. There has to be a generational changing of guards from “Grew up in a developing country” to “Grew up in a developed country” at the managerial/employer level before any meaningful societal changes can be made in the Korean society, at least in my opinion.

  • wangkon936

    Came close in 2011, but the odd things is that the Canadians rioted when they lost, whereas Americans tend to riot when they win.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_riot

  • cactusmcharris

    Pretentious abandon again, WK, and those lines above prove my point quite admirably, I’m afraid.

  • bumfromkorea
  • wangkon936

    I don’t think many expatriates from the West will ever understand that. I think some do and are happier for it though. A lot of early Peace Corps volunteers to Korea did and their superiors use to complain that they were all “going native.”

    Any ways, for the most part they have lived in countries that have been relatively developed for three or five generations or more and they think people’s attitudes have always been like where they’re from, but it hasn’t. Roman law, Greek philosophy, Judeo-Christian individuality of conscience (which was the result of the Reformation). Most of the world has had a vastly different tradition so they value different things and process information differently.

    Gregg Brazinsky over at George Washington University wrote a book called “Nation Building in South Korea: Koreans, Americans, and the Making of a Democracy.” I just finished it. What Gregg said is that it wasn’t so much what the Koreans learned from the West that helped it develop, but it was also what they were able not to learn and also to adjust to their particular cultural and social situations to better absorb the influence that was most key.

    South Korea is only one of maybe two or three non-Western countries to have developed. Even the much more Western influenced Latin American and African countries have not reached the same level. South Korea, Japan and Taiwan have best been able to adapt these influences, mix their own traditions with them and reach the economic level of the best Western nations.

    Any ways, it took centuries for Western nations to change and adapt their societies. Countries like Korea, Japan and Taiwan only have had decades. Some things will change quickly, some will take decades longer. Expats who complain about the pace of change don’t know their own culture’s history or the arduous journey their nations have to take in order to enjoy the freedom and progressive viewpoints they take for granted today.

  • wangkon936

    Point? You had a point? That’s hilarious. Anyways, I think you’re making shit up, chasing demons that are purely the making of your own psychosis. Have a nice weekend there buddy. Take care.

  • pawikirogii

    i can’t wait for the korean version of the si swimsuit edition. man, white knight expats are hard to take. they go to korea for women and then get angry that korean men like korean women. so self serving.

    american skunk to korean skunk: you stink!

  • wangkon936

    You need a Nielson box attached to your TV to be counted in the ratings. Without that you’re viewing habits are not counted. I had a box for some time that’s how I know.

  • djson1

    Well, I’m not Canadian, but I must say that some very good ballplayers have originated from our neighbor up north: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Canada

  • djson1

    Ah…just like that episode from Family Guy. haha. I hope technology gets to the point where they can somehow tell without attaching a Nielson box to your TV.

  • wangkon936

    Yeah, I got rid of that Nielson box after awhile. It was more trouble than it’s worth. You have to press this button every time you change channels and then it blinks to get your attention and you have to press the button again to let it know you are actually watching the TV instead of just using it as background noise. You got $20 the first month then just some pointless coupons afterwards.

  • Sumo294

    Interesting comment–I am going to have to think on this.

  • bumfromkorea

    As always, more articulate and wiser. 😀

  • bigmamat

    I was getting confused. She’s in an idol group they’re the definition of objectification.

  • Sumo294

    I would have to include Chile on that list–its a country ignored by Western liberal media.

  • Lorne

    In that video, wasn’t that a balk? It would have been hilarious if the umpire had called it.

  • BSDetector

    Objectification? Meh so what? It wasn’t lude, she got paid, had some fun, people cheered. It’s part of getting her brand out there. As for the whole myso-angle… does anyone really want to see a guy in a tight outfit throwing the pitch?

    Ladies? Anyone?

    Probably not, Seinfeld put it best by stating men are purely utilitarian. We open stuck pickle jars, take out the trash, and assemble the kids toys on Christmas morning. Too many people these days being offended by proxy.

  • craneysa
  • djson1

    Wow…I didn’t know they had an org for that in Korea. I’m guessing it’s not very popular though. Their website seems to be down.

  • craneysa

    Nah, it’s working. Copy the address, open a new tab, and paste it.

    http://www.wbak.net

    It seems their web developers are not particularly competent. It’s pretty sad when a website chokes on a referral URL.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    The women objectify themselves. KBO gives them a platform. Stop making excuses for women.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Youre a white knight then, and terribly inconsistent.

    If these women WANT to be objectified, why deny them the access to the platform? And is it really only K-Pop stars? Even walked down a Seoul street? Ever see what even professional office women wear to work? They all get dolled up.