Crap I read today: the post-election edition

Well, I suppose for the ruling party, the local elections yesterday could have been much, much worse:

The 2014 local election did not produce a clear-cut winner as the Korean electorate remains sharply divided.

Still, President Park Geun-hye’s Saenuri Party has to be happy about the close result, considering the immense public anger that had risen over the government’s bungled emergency response to the sunken Sewol ferry. The ruling party was particularly inspired about victories in key regions such as Gyeonggi Province and Incheon, which left the main opposition New Politics Alliance for Democracy (NPAD) ruing a missed opportunity to shift the balance of power in politics.

As the dust cleared after Wednesday’s vote, Saenuri came up with eight of the country’s 17 metropolitan mayor and governor posts with NPAD taking the remaining nine.

Yale grad and professional gadfly Nam Kyung-pil should be interesting to watch as Gyeonggi-do governor, especially if he starts squabbling with the mainstream of his party (not necessarily a bad thing), as he’s wont to do.

The SNP managed to squeak out a victory in the tight Busan mayoral race. Seoul mayor Park Won-soon, meanwhile, won reelection pretty handily…which, personally, is just fine with me, as I think he’s done a pretty good job of both running the city and refraining from commenting on non-city affairs.

Former Roh Moo-hyun bag man Ahn Hee-jung won reelection as governor of Chungcheongnam-do, too.

While the mayoral and gubernatorial races might have split, the left dominated the school superintendent races, including the Seoul race, where Cho Hi-yeon won a comfortable victory in a race where the conservative front-runner’s support collapsed almost overnight after his own daughter posted on Facebook an open letter to Seoul voters slamming her father for abandoning her and her brother.

Turnout was high…but not as high as expected. And KBS continues its spectacular run.

While the US wants Korea to adopt THAAD (Theater High Altitude Area Defense), Korea seems intent on going its own way.

Now, I’m no expert on public diplomacy, but you know what might help USFK more effectively make its case? Not having three drunk GIs sexually harass a female employee at a water park, assault a male employee trying to help and spit on and beat the arresting officers. Soon followed by another drunk serviceman stealing a cab, hot rodding down Gangnam-daero, hitting another car and assaulting the arresting officers.

To be fair, at least it appears USFK behaves better than East German troops in Poland.

More stuff at my photoblog. Apologies to redwhitedude, though—there are some more Gwanghwamun shots there.

  • cmxc

    While the Korea Times is not know for its stellar record on balanced reporting, this editorial is surprisingly candid and on the mark:

    Old habits die hard

    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2014/06/164_158503.html

    In a nutshell, as I had previously suggested, the Sewol and the death of around 300 kids will change NOTHING in Korea. The more things change, the more they stay the same…

  • Loulou

    It’s really amazing how skilled the Korean left is at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They managed it in both the legislative and presidential elections in 2012 and now they somehow couldn’t deal a significant blow to Saenuri even with just about every factor lining up in their favor.

  • Sumo294

    The Korean lefties need to start recruiting foreign teachers as paid consultants. No one on planet Earth could have mismanaged such a political opportunity as badly as those laughable socialists.

  • Aja Aja

    What’s interesting is the complete crash and burn of the radical left’s UPP party. Unlike four years ago, all their candidates got hammered. I guess it didn’t help that they tried to use the Sewol for political purposes which many Koreans got disgusted with, and that the key party leadership got caught plotting to destroy key South Korean facilities, anticipating an North Korea attack in 2013 (and not getting the NK attack as they expected).

    So how to explain this defeat? I predict they’ll go back to pulling the old rabbit out of the hat – the good old election fraud charges, that these votes were rigged. Just wait.

  • redwhitedude

    They like KBS needs to be taken over by foreign party. KBS to do a better job reporting news and these socialist by foreign socialist so that they can stop being the laughing stock and an embarrassment to the left.

  • redwhitedude

    As to the US military obviously there are people in uniform who have a few screws loose in their head but the public is perceiving them as typical American GI so there is the problem. Does wonders for community relations.

  • redwhitedude

    And then 10 years down the line another disaster.

  • Sumo294

    UPP and KTU
    It ain’t a party till the UPP and KTU show up.
    Because, obviously they don’t need to get up in the morning and go to work.

  • RElgin

    These guys should be wearing ankle monitors! What a pack of perps. It is almost like North Koreans are running wild around Seoul.

  • redwhitedude

    They should be transferred out of Korea after they fulfill terms of their punishment.

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    There should be language and etiquette exam requirements for soldiers to get permission to leave base. Nothing unreasonable – just some basic everyday Korean and a thorough understanding that this country is not some drunken Disneyland.

  • dlbarch

    Nam Kyung-pil is, hand’s down, one of the more interesting — and, one hopes, a continuing rising star — of Korea’s next generation of political figures.

    (He’s also a one-man antidote to the assumption that being a “conservative” in Korea means falling lock-step into line behind the narrow family, er, business interests of the country’s chaebol, but more on that later.)

    Nam recognizes what the Samsux and Hyundai apologists (on MH and elsewhere) do not, and that is that if Korea’s economy is going to mature into something more than a hyper-modern albeit third world oligopoly, then these corporate behemoths are going to need to be broken up and their governing structures truly divorced from single family control.

    The brutality with which these companies thrive at the expense of Korea’s SME sector — and of a genuinely open trade regime — is one of the hidden but very real costs behind the rise of Korea, Inc. The sooner Korea — and leaders like Nam — forthrightly deal with the concentrated political and economic power of these companies, the better.

    DLB

  • bigmamat

    I was going to say it’s spring so the little shits think they’re on spring break.

  • bigmamat

    Do Koreans never behave badly when they drink?

  • redwhitedude

    That’s not relevant. Does it mean that because there are Americans that are dicks to Koreans, Koreans should be allowed to be dicks to them?

  • redwhitedude

    This case sounds like people acting like dicks to the hosts.

  • pawikirogii

    these soldiers who attack korean police officers would never do such a thing here in the states cause they know they would be killed. perhaps korean police need to do the same.

  • bumfromkorea

    I sincerely, sincerely hope that the soldiers in a professional, all-volunteer military are held to a higher standard than that of an alcoholic ajeosshi.

  • Aja Aja

    Korea needs to toughen up the police and expect higher standards from them, as well as giving them the mandate to crack knuckles (which unfortunately would then make the leftwing human rights activists upset into protesting and rioting on the streets again) . Then people will respect them more. Until then, they’ll get treated as the friendly local neighborhood ajoshis in uniform. Unfortunately, since the days of pro-democracy movements until the 1980’s, the police have been de-fanged and de-clawed. They are more like the people who help and mediate civil disputes, rather than keepers of law and enforcement.

  • bigmamat

    That’s not what I asked you. You can’t answer the question. Fine then don’t. I had no intention of defending anyone who’s being a dick. Just wondered if every time some Korean gets drunk and acts stupid it makes the national news.

  • bigmamat

    Why? Why do Americans have to be held to a higher standard than a Korean? Because we’re what? Guests? Representatives of the US? Professionals. What Korean professionals don’t get drunk and act like dicks? Fuck all that! We’ve been sending troops there for 60 years. Alcohol is cheap and easily available all night long. Men drink, Korean ajeosshi and Americans. Sometimes they get drunk and act like assholes. I just don’t understand why after 60 years the Korean media still has to blow this shit out of proportion.

  • eddienj

    Get drunk and acting like an asshole is not what happened.

    Sexual harassment, auto theft, motor vehicle accident with a stolen car, resisting arrest, assaulting law enforcement officers, etc.

    You make it seemed like a few guys got drunk and were just acting up.

  • bigmamat

    Koreans don’t commit sexual assault? They don’t steal cars, drive drunk, resist arrest? It is men acting up. It is men being assholes. Perhaps you can’t see the forest for the trees. Oh that’s right you’re a man. I’m a woman and if some drunk is harassing me it doesn’t make any difference to me what he looks like or what language he speaks he’s still a drunk asshole that assaulted me.

    What I think is hypocritical beyond belief is that it becomes major news because it was an American solider. I don’t prescribe to the silly notion that you invite several thousand foreign troops into your country for more than 50 years then baby bitch cry every time one of them does something wrong. People are not ever going to do anything wrong or commit a crime? I understand that the US needs to stop protecting our little darlings when they do bad things but host nations need to stop pretending that shit like this doesn’t happen among the native population as well.

  • bumfromkorea

    1. The guys in question aren’t just “Americans”, they’re “American soldiers“, ie the guys who are entrusted with dangerous firearms and other heavy weaponry. Again, I sincerely hope that the American soldiers are held to a higher standard than your average ajeosshi in the street.

    2. Welcome to a life of a minority. That’s what happens when you belong to a social group that are distinctly different from an overwhelming majority in a given society. Your actions stick out like a sore thumb, and you’re identified based on your nationality/ ethnicity/ race before you’re identified as a generic human being.

    3. Stories of Koreans doing asshole things overflow the Korean news all the time. Claiming that shit like this gets blown out of proportion is an indication that either you don’t really follow the Korean news, or you’re blind to your own confirmation bias. Search “폭행” on naver, and see how many articles are about the soldiers in the water park and how many are about other strictly domestic incidences.

  • redwhitedude

    This is a case of american soldiers behaving badly man. Are you implying because there are drunk Koreans who behave badly american soldiers should be let off the hook? I find linking both to be irrelevant. Whomever behaves badly should be punished. That is not the time to be looking at Koreans and their conduct when americans go bad and vice versa.

  • redwhitedude

    They are not just americans. They are american soldiers. You know people who are trained to fight with M-16 that ought to require something more than just an average american. You want somebody of good character to be handling M-16.

  • redwhitedude

    I’m pretty sure americans back in the US do all that crap. He is comparing american soldiers to the general Korean population. It’s like comparing Korea soldiers to the general american population.

  • bumfromkorea

    Nah. We got car stealing, we got drunk driving, and we got attacking the police… but all three in one night by a single person? This is just an exacerbated version of college kids traveling abroad and treating the host nation like their own personal drunken disneyland. The difference here, as you also point out, is that the level of trust and responsibility given to a soldier is slightly different from a college kid. Or an ajeosshi.

    And I’m fairly certain bigmamat is not a he.

  • A Korean

    Well, KBS management caved. The KBS prez is on his way out, and the labor ended/suspended the strike.

    And, again, the people don’t give a rat’s ass.

  • cmxc

    So it appears I’m not the only one to see that Korea’s psychotic ajeoshi-halabeoji are the true menace to Korea:

    An aging society’s crime crisis

    http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2990191

    You can see that others are seeing that again, more and more elderly men in Korea are more deserving of bullets (death penalty) than bows (respect)

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  • Sinister

    Saenuri aren’t that bad. I met the local candidate the other day and he is a thoroughly charming man and very young for a politician. There is hope in this country and it lies with the younger generation, Korea’s generation X seem to be a fairly decent lot.

  • Sumo294

    Leftwing Korean moonbats are the ones who want to hit American soldiers not the rest of Korea.

  • I AM IN ODE

    why is that interesting?

  • I AM IN ODE

    I’m sure that would solve all of the problems – great idea!

  • I AM IN ODE

    It has nothing to do with being Korean or American. They broke the law. Simple. Don’t go along with Koehler’s ridiculous mindset.,

  • I AM IN ODE

    why is this a news story?

  • I AM IN ODE

    Actually they are just Americans.

  • I AM IN ODE

    but anyone can be a soldier

  • I AM IN ODE

    killed?

  • I AM IN ODE

    The country is still trying to overcome the shock of the war. A lot of people still want to have sex with their parents. The idea of dealing with some monkeys from Virginia doesn’t blend well into the aftermath-of-war psychosis.

  • RElgin

    Boy, quit drinking that lighter fluid!

  • RElgin

    Yes, I have too, but the problem that Saenuri has is the old heads who are sick, corrupt sacks of dung and these fools control too much of what happens within that party.

  • redwhitedude

    Ask the news outlet that picked this story up.

  • redwhitedude

    Sure as long as you are not a gang member, have a dubious criminal record, and can pass basic training. I don’t think that means 100% of the people who want to sign up can become one and 100% of people who go into basic training pass.

  • redwhitedude

    What did Robert say? All he stated was that when it comes to PR misbehaving like that isn’t going to endear you to the locals.

  • redwhitedude

    Hopefully the younger crowd won’t be worn down to become just like that.

  • redwhitedude

    So what has these local elections shown? Make sure you got all your bases covered and any potential issues dealt with. As shown by the seoul school superintendent race with the daughter accusing of neglecting her and being a dead beat dad at the conservative candidate and the mayoral race with the son making an ill timed and ill advised comments about seowul victims.

  • Sumo294

    The opposite is the lefties who still have hard core socialists at their head who really believe that humanity would be better off without private property and are committed to centralized economic planning. Throw out all of your socialists and then maybe we can start thinking about supporting your party.

  • http://jushinjok.blogspot.com JinJoo

    “…So what has these local elections shown?”

    These elections show that Korea is experiencing a later stages of cancer.

    To understand Korean politics, you have to know how powerful the leftists are. Do you think Saenuri Party 당원들 are really conservative politicians?

    Do you think LMB was a conservative politician? Do you think Samsung exist for Koreans? There are 프락치들 (leftists disguised as right-wing) within Saenuri-Dang. PGH don’t have many people she can trust.

    The other day a commenter (I think Dlbach) mentioned that the leftists are under-financed. It was true in old days. The leftists, in 1960s, asked the USA to help them, in return, they promised they would choose the president they’d be pleased with.

    http://andocu.tistory.com/m/post/5620

    They were rejected of course. Nowadays they don’t seem to have problem with
    money. Who do you think provide money to them now? Who is interested in Korea?

    Daum is leftist portal so I won’t talk about it, but if you read Korean and visit Naver, you’d have noticed that they upload news articles written by Hani, Geong-Hyang and Oh-my news (all leftist press) on their main pages.

    There are millions of 50 cents parties working on Korean forums/sites/ portals and in 2012, Baidu (search engine site equivalent to Google), Soso (China’s facebook) were Korea’s the most visited sites according to http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/KR. And no Koreans have heard of these sites, so what does this mean?

    http://blog.naver.com/goodmarina/120169768734

    The mainstream press make heinous crimes committed by Chinese very trivial, but witch hunt the crimes committed by Anglo-saxon (to Koreans all white people are Americans.) What does this mean?

  • A Korean

    Man, you crazy.

    Why don’t you volunteer to write/post on this blog? Email to Robert. I’d like to see more Koreans post stories.

  • dlbarch

    Whether as a poster or a commentator, I definitely agree MH desperately needs more authentic Korean voices.

    That said, I’m gonna (again) suggest that ANYONE who’s invited to post on MH — Korean or not — agree to dispense with their anonymity, man-up (or woman-up), and use their real names when posting.

    (I’ve long since given up asking commentators to do the same.)

    MH is at its most credible when Robert’s guest bloggers back up their postings with their own reputations, and that is simply not possible when hiding behind the skirt of a fake identity.

    Unsurprisingly, MH’s best guest bloggers – Robert Neff, R. Elgin, Bobby McGill, et al. – are, to their enormous credit, man enough to actually take ownership of their posts.

    That really should be the rule rather than the exception around here.

    DLB

  • redwhitedude

    A blog that enforces that is the asian security blog which is run by a professor at Busan national university. He refuses to respond to anonymous posters and keeps his blog relevant to the topics at hand. If you wanted people to do what you are asking perhaps this policy is worth considering.

  • redwhitedude

    With other alternatives for news such as Daum, Naver, MBC, SBS and so forth why should I care about the monkey business that goes on there? It is their loss. The government should just cut ties with KBS and privatize it, or even sell it to a foreign network. That will be fresh change to the Korean news scene. Koreans need to be exposed to how news is done by foreign media outlets.

  • redwhitedude

    Going after Samsux and Hyundai directly will hurt Korea as well. Facilitate foreign entry into Korea even more. Level the playing field. Try to woo companies like GE, Walmart, IBM, Apple, Microsoft, Siemens and so forth harder. The only way to force change on these Chaebols is distress them by having competitors grab market share from them. This will put the in their places, they’ll know they are not above anybody. It’s just those Neanderthal interpretations of business regulations and agreements such as the FTA that can get in the way. If you have all these big corporations in Korea then they could boost the SME. These SME will know that they have alternatives to the chaebols who are used to having their way.

  • dlbarch

    I’m actually more in favor of a voluntary bottom-up versus an imposed top-down approach.

    I would never ask Robert to set rules for commentators. (Guest bloggers are a different story, but his is his sandbox, so….)

    I do, however, think Internet anonymity is pernicious, and would like to see more folks simply take ownership of their comments by standing behind them.

    I also think this is better for the commentators themselves. Standing tall and declaring to the world that “this is what I think, and if you don’t like it, then take a number, get in line, and kiss my ass” is a fabulously liberating experience.

    Or to put it less delicately, hiding behind anonymity and living in fear is no way for any man to live.

    (Women and children can do whatever they want!)

    Cheers,
    DLB

  • redwhitedude

    The problem is that I like a lot of people value privacy. I don’t want posts dangling over my head because I get associated with it. Also I’m not a serious poster as in posting very serious academic subject matter postings.

  • dlbarch

    Either way, RWD, you’re all right in my book.

    Cheers,
    DLB

  • redwhitedude

    Which book? The black one which has the hit list?

  • bigmamat

    Guess you haven’t been to the U.S. in a long time. Since just about anyone can purchase an assault rifle. You know it’s our constitutional right. We have almost 2 million US military. It’s just not realistic to expect we will not have a few that get into trouble. Certainly Korea should be accustomed to this happening from time to time. We’ve been there almost 60 years. All I’m saying is that every time something like this happens doesn’t mean that it should be a big media event, and an opportunity to bash the U.S. I’ll be the first one to tell you that living near a military base is not always the best place to be even in the states.

  • http://gypsyscholarship.blogspot.kr/ Horace Jeffery Hodges

    Dammit! You mean I got to start manning up that I’m really “Horace”? Well, does that sound like a name to ‘man’ up to? Nuh-uh! No way! Just manning up to “Jeffery” is embarrassment enough!

    Jeffery Hodges

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  • Cloudfive

    I’d like to point out that Bobby McGill, Koehler and Robert Neff’s posts directly relate to their careers and is extension of what they do in real life. I’m not sure what Elgin does, but I’m aware that “The Korean” is a lawyer with high profile clients and his law firm prefers that he keep his private opinions and posts anonymous, which I can perfectly understand.

    The internet is forever and not everyone is willing to have every thought and petty argument they have on an online forum searchable forever. I’m not sure if you’re retired and if that makes a difference in why you choose to use your initials and real last name (but not your full name).

    I choose to remain anonymous but am willing and able to say everything I’ve written to the people I’m addressing in person. That seems a more reasonable criteria to start, that you are willing to say exactly what you’ve written to a person’s face. I have never been timid but there are probably people on the internet who say things they would never dream of saying in real life.

    Just my humble opinion.

    Cloud

  • dlbarch

    “Horace” is an awesome name, man! (Though, truth be told, I’d probably go with “Horatius,” but that’s just how I roll.)

    Similarly, I once had a frat broham named Thaddeus with whom I persisted endlessly trying to convince to use over his preferred “Thad.” I lost that fight, but sometimes ya just gotta run with it.

    BTW, the best/worse name EVER has got to be “Newt Gingrich.” Politics aside, that name is just so frackin’ awful it’s beautiful.

    DLB

  • http://gypsyscholarship.blogspot.kr/ Horace Jeffery Hodges

    ‘Tis true I am a poet . . .

    Jeffery Hodges

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  • dlbarch

    Fair enough. Full disclosure: My full name is David Lindsay Barch, I’ve signed my name “DLBarch” for as long as I can remember, and have used “DLB” since childhood.

    And, no, I’m not retired. I’m an attorney in the SF Bay Area and use and sign my real name on everything. More importantly, I have NEVER used an alias and can predict with total confidence that I never will.

    If you’re ever in the Bay Area and want to grab a sail and a beer, you will immediately understand why. Character is everything.

    Cheers,
    DLB

  • Sumo294

    I understand your position but in this age–full disclosure is not wise. For example–you may make an innocuous remark about material objects in your life that may get you killed–like saying “I actually have a real sketch by Rembrandt hanging in my living room” or “I just inherited a Monet from my aunt”.

  • eddienj

    You are right. The American Tea Party would call the Saenuri Party flaming liberals.

  • pawikirogii

    i live in the same neck of the woods as you do. i believe you said you
    lived near palo alto. you’ve also posted your pic which can be expanded (by clicking) to show a decent photo of what you look like. you can be rest assured that if i saw you on the street or in a restaurant, i would never ever bother you. but what about the next guy, dlb? that’s what you gotta worry about. as for posting a real name, NEVER. a pic? i’ve already done that but never kept them up for long but you can see one of me where there are eyes without a face!

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    Ideally I agree with you. I wish posters and commentators everywhere on the internet would only write things that they would have the conviction and courage to say face to face. But job protection in Korea is not like it is in the West. Media, education, and corporations are routinely discussed on here and on other forums. I want to be able to share my opinion without worrying about what my superiors at work would think if they read it, as unlikely as that may be.

    Not to mention that there are some radicals with time on their hands (unemployed young males) who earnestly try to punish foreigners who criticize Korea, Inc. As a commentator, I’m not afraid of them. But bloggers have some reason to be. Roboseyo has discussed the balance between disclosure and self-protection. It sounds like a tightrope at times.

  • dlbarch

    Well, first of all, if you ever see me walking down the street in Palo Alto, I hope you do come over and say “Yo, jackass, it’s me, Pawi!” I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. I dig your comments here on MH and read almost all of them. I respect anyone with strong opinions and the guts to go against the grain.

    Any any Korean voice who’s willing to take on MH’s considerable expat brigade — right or wrong — deserves a place on MH.

    You and I may not see eye to eye on everything, but I dig the fire and and the passion, so keep an eye out for me on the mean streets of Palo Alto!

    Cheers,
    DLB

  • Seoulgoodman

    If you’re in the military and the only weapon you’ve been trained to use is a rifle, you’re probably the guy who washed the dishes.

  • Seoulgoodman

    No, not everyone who wants to sign up can enter. There are aptitude tests that must be taken first (keeps the illiterate out and helps determine which trade you qualify for).

  • Seoulgoodman

    Right, because being afraid of getting shot every time a police pulls you over because you were speeding is so much better.

  • Seoulgoodman

    “So what has these local elections shown?”

    I really don’t care anymore. I voted, and that’s that. Whatever happens will happen. I just don’t care anymore. I’ll be sitting on the front porch of my seaside cottage in less than two months. With every breath of the salty air, Korea will become an increasingly distant memory.

  • Seoulgoodman

    Your middle name is Lindsay? Named after your grandmother? 😉

  • Seoulgoodman

    Yup. I totally agree. I’ve done something that has brought on some social changes in Korea (I practically caused an international incident in the process) that would earn me huge bragging rights here on this blog…but I’m keeping it to myself. It’s just not wise to disclose such things.

  • Seoulgoodman

    Give a decent picture to you? So you can make one of your Photoshopped avatars with it?

  • dlbarch

    Well, that side of the family, yes. Well done.

    The crazy thing is we can trace our family back every generation all to way to 1066. The whole thing is just nuts.

    DLB

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    That’s hyperbole. Do you fear getting shot when you get routinely pulled over?

  • pawikirogii

    i have respect for you as well, counselor. i’ll keep your request under consideration should i ever see you on THE WEALTHY streets of palo alto. :-) btw, you grew up in los gatos? can’t be poor and live there. nice place! have a good day, sir.

  • Seoulgoodman

    So, your last name is Lindsay Barch. Why don’t you hyphenate it?

    PS. My family traces back to around 900. It’s one of the oldest French surnames (it’s Norman-French). It’s believed it was given to my ancestor by a lord as a reward for bravery in battle.

  • Seoulgoodman

    No because I don’t live in the US.

  • pawikirogii

    i’ve done some avatars of gerry but gerry lost his right to privacy when he spoke to some japanese rags about dokdo and passed himself off as a dokdologist. i don’t make avatars of private citizens unless they say it’s ok. lawyer carr gave me such permission and i’ve done some of him. i also did one of dlb that i can’t find now. i thought it looked cool but he told me i couldn’t publish them. i’ve respected that and will continue to do so. as for pictures, you see my eyes in the grav. now download and blow it up to discern as much detail as you posibly can.

  • Seoulgoodman

    Dodkologist…LOL.

    Blow up your avatar? Do you really want me to do that. I’m French, I can be very catty (Is that a receding hairline I see?).

  • pawikirogii

    i’m talking about attacking a police officer. that can get you killed very quickly here in the states. the gov and the public will almost always side with the police. of course, the police often control the narrative. any person thinking of coming to the states better understand that you don’t EVER touch a police officer. EVER!

  • Seoulgoodman

    Militarizing the South Korean police as it has been in the US isn’t the solution, though.

  • pawikirogii

    no, it’s the way i cropped it and the length of my hair at the time. still a full set with bangs that go above the eyebrows now. have a good day. i love french food. all that cream and butter.

  • pawikirogii

    i agree but they need to be bit tougher than they are now. korea will never become a safe place until the police actually enforce the law. they need to be a bit stricter to do that.

  • pawikirogii

    ps if you look close you can see my bangs but they were short at the time. pictures like these are best viewed on a pc when enlarged by clciking the poster’s name.

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    Then how are you qualified to comment on the feeling of getting pulled over in the US?

  • Seoulgoodman

    Sure, it’s the cropping. And a guy with bangs? How fabulous. 😉

    See?

  • Seoulgoodman

    Well, first they would need to become more competent…and don’t expect that to happen as long as cops are paid the equivalent of 5$ for every hour of overtime they do.

  • Seoulgoodman

    Don’t assume I’ve never been in the US or never watched American news.

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    People get shot by cops for pulling guns on cops. People don’t get shot for speeding. The only thing you have to fear is a speeding ticket.

  • Cloudfive

    I will gladly accept your invitation when I am next in the Bay Area. I’ve had the pleasure of drinking a beer or two on friends’ boats on the Bay. If only I could, I would teleport there immediately. I grew up sailing up and down the murky waters of the Delaware River on my Dad’s 24 foot. Not as picturesque as the Bay Area but just as fun and less chilly.

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    Korea needs cops who actually want to fight crime. Most cops here just want government job security and benefits. They want to avoid confrontation, especially with older people.

  • bumfromkorea

    Does your family have anything to do with the Norman invasion of England? That’s the only historical event I can associate to 1066 on top of my head.

    And intellectual property attorney! It makes much more sense now 😀

  • brier

    I noticed there was only five women among the governors, mayors, county heads, city district heads and educational superintendents. Of the five, four were with the bird brain party, and one was with the party that is still looking for democracy (under their terms).

  • Seoulgoodman

    Right, because cops in the US don’t approach your car with their hand on their revolver.

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    Cops don’t carry revolvers. Police keep their hand on their gun as a precaution against the very rare instances when the driver possesses a weapon. It’s the same reason you wear a seatbelt when you’re in a car. You will probably never need it, but it’s a smart idea just in case. American police don’t make a habit of pulling out their gun and shooting unarmed drivers during routine traffic stops. You have a very distorted idea of American cops. Perhaps you watch too much TV.

    America has ridiculous gun laws and terrible violent crime rates (largely due to these gun laws). But we don’t have police officers going around shooting unarmed civilians on a daily basis.

  • http://gypsyscholarship.blogspot.kr/ Horace Jeffery Hodges

    Poor Newt. He’ll never get better . . .

    Jeffery Hodges

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  • Seoulgoodman

    “Cops don’t carry revolvers”…Dude, are you going to be that guy who’s going to argue semantics about the name of firearms? It’s not a revolver, it’s a semi automatic handgun, it’s not a machine gun, it’s an assault rifle…

    PS. Been shooting since I was a child and I served in the armed forces. I was trained to take down a jet with the push of a button.

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    I didn’t say they never accidentally shoot civilians, but based on your earlier comments you make it sound common. The idea of fearing getting shot during a routine traffic stop is ludicrous.

    I do worry about gun violence in the US, but not from cops. It’s the vigilante NRA members who think carrying a firearm makes them Wyatt Earp that I worry about… people like George Zimmerman who call themselves crime fighters and act like cops, without the training or responsibility.

    The revolver comment was snide of me. Sorry for that. No, I usually don’t argue about firearms because I have no interest in them (something I’m proud of).

    Regarding Justin Bourque… He was unarmed when he was arrested. Unarmed suspects typically aren’t shot in the US either. Of course, many shooting suspects are armed when they are arrested, so that’s something to consider.

  • Seoulgoodman

    To say he was unarmed when he was captured ignores the fact that they could have shot him while he was still armed (yes, they knew he was there and could have easily taken him out).

    In any case, yeah, those idiots that have been popping up in the US, those open carry nutjobs. So, firearms are legal…Big deal. So is fucking but you don’t see many people doing it in the middle of a food court.