• A Korean

    That’s an insult to both apple pie and kimchi.

  • RElgin

    ㅎ ㅎ

  • http://www.zenkimchi.com/FoodJournal ZenKimchi

    The first Pinterest-worthy post on The Hole.

  • A Korean

    That is a picture of tragic marriage.

    Each is pretty good on its own. Together, they are an utter abomination.

    Truly a picture worth, well, maybe about 50 words.

  • piratariaazul

    Great, now everybody can claim victory and go home. Anyway, cellphones are so yesterday. Move along, nothing to see here.

    For those missing the action, next round of IP UFC skirmishes to begin soon on wearables.

  • redwhitedude

    At the end of the day I do not care.

  • flyingsword

    Not exactly a Reeses Peanut Butter Cup….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJLDF6qZUX0

  • wangkon936

    Essentially, the U.S. courts are telling the two parties:

    1. Apple, stop trying to angle for a technological monopoly of the smartphone market.

    2. Samsung, stop being such a fast follower.

    It’s a message to both sides.

  • Sumo294

    What really happened is that Google has been quietly working behind the scenes and moving the war against Apple whom they think is lobbying against them on privacy issues. Tit for tat.

  • cactusmcharris

    I want to mention to R. Elgin that that graphic is fantastic and a hat of the same haute couture would be worn with binational pride the next time I’m in Korea.

  • wangkon936

    Samsung is Google’s buffer state.

  • Aja Aja

    What’s happened to Samsung’s Tizen?

  • wangkon936

    Tizen is Samsung’s chip against Google, to be deployed if Google decides to get stingy with Android.

    It keeps Google honest and increases leverage to Samsung. It’s like a nuke. You may never need to use it, but the fact that you have it and have the option to use it is an important asset in itself.

  • A Korean

    Sad Sewol update. Instead of miracle survivor, an Undine rescue diver has died on the job.

  • flyingsword

    Never understood sending the living after the dead. Needless.

    First rule of life guarding, don’t make yourself a victim too….

  • piratariaazul

    Unfortunately Tizen is a joke, based on what we have seen so far. And you know this:

    Dr. Strangelove: “Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn’t you tell the world, EH?”
    Ambassador de Sadesky: “It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, the Premier loves surprises.”

  • A Korean

    Because the dead won’t haul their own corpse to the funeral…

  • wangkon936

    Yes, Tizen is in fact a joke. But even a joke has some purpose and Tizen’s purpose is to keep Google up at night, which it appears to be doing.

  • dlbarch

    Actually, it’s quite the opposite. The key reason Google decided to cut Motorola loose was because it was quickly becoming apparent that Samsux would not be leveraging Tizen as an alternative to Android.

    Google’s PURCHASE of Motorola WAS a defensive play. Google’s sale of Motorola came after Google realized Samsux was not quite the threat everyone thought it was.

    Oh, and in San Jose, Samsux is not nearly as respected as it was even 1 year ago. Abandoning Tizen, declining sales, and now giving its Tabs away for free have all come at a huge reputational cost. Silicon Valley is a brutal place.

    DLB

  • redwhitedude

    http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/27/samsung-tizen-os-prototype/

    Some glowing commentaries

    “treydrier4

    Big deal. Tizen is not carving any new ground, just a miss match of “the greatest hits” of Android and Windows. Woopeeee!

    PerttuLehtinen

    This is extremely pointless. Looks like Android without being Android.”

    Frankly I don’t give a rat’s ass on who is dominating or whatever. By my book Samsux is not a dynamic nor innovative company. Once their domination of smartphone goes they could very well be a has been unless they make inroads in the OS arena. The chinese will undercut everybody eventually and grab serious marketshare in the hardware but then the chinese bring a whole different set of issues with them. Such as shady ties with the chinese government and so forth but that is a whole different issue with their governance.

    Going back to Samsux I just don’t see them making that much of an inroad in the OS. They could try acquiring somebody but their history of acquisitions is checkered at best.

  • redwhitedude

    Never understood why there are so many civilian divers in this mess of an operation. Shouldn’t they clear the place up and have only police, coast guard and navy divers?

  • Aja Aja

    Because the entire country is in an uproar that this operation was way too slow. If they stop or even slow down the operation, that’s gonna go down well. If that happens there will be calls of overthrowing the bad government. Yesterday six more bodies were recovered, there are now only 34 missing left. They need to keep sending down the living, even with the risks to those people, to recover the dead until everyone of them are found, otherwise prepare for the opportunistic political groups to plan bloodbaths on the streets.

  • Aja Aja

    Actually, a little bit of quick research on the internet shows what the advantage of Tizen is, and see what Samsung is envisioning with this OS. Tizen’s features and functions almost identically resemble Android. The main difference and advantage of Tizen over Android is that Tizen can run across multiple platforms. So theoretically, Tizen would not only be able to run on Smartphones, but also Tablets, Netbooks, TV’s, Vehicles, and even on white goods smart connected appliances like fridges and washing machines. The entire cross platforms would be unified by one OS. And since Samsung makes so many of those hardware platforms, their vision is to build a unified system that will make it easy for consumers to control all the consumer electronic hardware goods, which are all connected to the network. They’re not developing Tizen to stop at the smartphones. As for the lack of apps for this OS, my understanding is that Tizen, since it’s just another variation of open source Linux OS, will be able to run the Android apps as well, making the problem of no apps for new OS problem, a moot point.

  • dlbarch

    I think those are all decent points, but just incomplete.

    Put Tizen in the same category as Ubuntu or Sailfish and one starts to see the larger problem. Open source OS is not new.

    Where I think Samsux has failed is not in coming up with a nifty if sluggish new OS, but rather in not differentiating it enough from Android.

    I just don’t know a single person who’s looking forward to the TIzen release…whenever that much-delayed event may be.

    DLB

  • A Korean

    Marine Police (i.e. “coast guard”) asked the shipping company to hire Undine, the marine salvage firm whose diver had died.

    Marine Police has been the target of much media criticism lately. One angle is that, in its recent expansion, it piled up mostly upper-level bureaucrats with law degrees, and very few grunts with actual applicable maritime experience/training. MP management wasn’t only hopelessly out of its depth in executing a serious rescue mission like this due to the lack of field experience/expertise, they likely didn’t have enough divers despite the expansion in the recent years.

  • wangkon936

    I was afraid of this would happen… a little surprised that it didn’t happen sooner.

  • Aja Aja

    I think the whole ideal for Samsung was to take Android, and transplant it into the Samsung controlled OS. That’s why much of the user interface of Tizen is similar to Android. Their definition of differentiation isn’t the user experience, it is the cross format compatibility which they are interested in controlling apart from Google. Since Samsung dominates the consumer electronic industry, they envision to dominate electronic gadgetry. For example, in the currently very fragmented vehicle electronics (where every different car makers have their own clunky interfaces). So as an example, Samsung can use this new OS without Google’s control, to unify the navigation systems and dominate this sector, like how Apple shocked the mobile phone industry with their iPhone. Samsung knows they have the advantage in hardware so they’ll use Tizen to consolidate their already strong position in electronics hardware, with a strong appeal to consumers that if they buy a Samsung smartphone, they can control their Samsung TV or Samsung car navigation, and do cool things with them that you can’t do with other brands.

  • piratariaazul

    Many Tizen components are not open source, and neither is the SDK (last I checked). Have you ever seen Samsung let go control of anything?

    Given that, good luck building a community around the OS.

  • Aja Aja

    Well, we will just have to wait and see what they will do with them. They’ve always been a good hardware manufacturer, but not a great software company. So it’s understandable the skepticism. We just have to see if they will succeed or fail in their endeavour which I fully understand why they feel they must engaged in.

  • Aja Aja

    These aren’t ordinary recreational civilian divers that made headlines few weeks back. These are private professionals with made decades of experience, mostly retired Navy UDT divers. For instance, the dead diver is an old veteran with 30 years of experience and was trained as a UDT/SEAL.

    http://news.donga.com/Main/3/all/20140507/63288468/1

    Because of their experience, they have a good rapport with the active Navy divers.

    The reason why this company, Undine got bad mouthed so much by the Korean media is that they were hired by the Korean government, but Undine is also a subcontractor of the ferry company that owned the sunk ferry. There were unproven and vicious allegations that the Korean government, the Korean navy, the ferry company, and Undine were in collusion to cover up for the Korean government – therefore they had no interest in rescuing anybody. These allegations were so unfair, but it was enough to make the surviving families blow up in anger. This is why the family members wanted to march to the Blue House, as a protest.

    If you read foreign media, most of them report that foreign experts think the rescue operation to recover the bodies is as good as it gets, and that the divers are doing their best. Yet the Koreans don’t believe this because the media has taken hold and have successfully made it look like the divers don’t care because they got something to cover up.

  • A Korean

    At the least, it should serve as a moment of some serious reflection, on part of the media, the public, everyone.

    Stop yelling and screaming at each other, blaming any and everything. Get their acts together and be constructive – there looms ahead much work, of grave importance, to be carried out.

  • A Korean

    To Elgin and others,

    This is a thread that digresses from the post topic. I apologize if this violates the norms of this blog.

  • Aja Aja

    Talking about blaming. This has to take the cake.

    http://news.donga.com/Main/3/all/20140507/63288424/1

    It says the divers didn’t take any safety measures, as there were doctors available to check upon their conditions, and that divers didn’t bother with safety practices, and that they’re just as much of a problem as the rest of the society which lacks safety awareness.

    Wow.. just wow….

    This is the same media that absolutely chewed out these divers as useless clowns who were too busy covering up their incompetence and why they couldn’t bring up people alive (not dead). This is the same media that whipped up the public’s emotions with all kinds of finger pointing as to why the survivors aren’t being pulled out of the water. The same media that failed to point out the likely fact that all were lost onboard when the ship went down in April 16.

    Now they’re blaming these brave men who risked and sacrificed their lives as clowns who failed to practice safety measures. How can they worry about safety and get checkups by the doctors, when they’ve been constantly accused of being lazy slackers?

  • JW

    I disagree with your characterization of that article. It blames the coast guard, Undine, and other gov’t authorities, not the divers themselves. Which makes sense because ensuring that safety protocols are followed should not be the job of the divers themselves. The divers are merely employees who do what they are told to do.

  • A Korean

    I skimmed that piece before. I don’t think it’s blaming the divers so much as the those that managing the diving operation – the operation headquarter and the Undine management.

    But it is written in the same inflammatory fashion that I’m tired and dismayed of, perhaps like most who have been monitoring Korean news reports.

  • Aja Aja

    Most Korean readers would not be able to make that distinguish, I’m afraid.

  • Aja Aja

    Yeah I can see where it will lead to when the media gets the hold of the scene where divers are prevented from diving further and getting medical checkups. You think that anyone in Korea would accept that as a safety precaution? It would have been portrayed as, they being slacking off. The management at Undine and those in charge of the Navy divers knew that, and they were under tremendous pressure from family members of those missing as well, to work faster and faster and faster, dive! dive! dive!! No rest! Palli ppali! . I say no way anyone would have accepted it. It’s always after the fact that they should have done this and done that. Always after the fact.

  • JW

    Wow. You really have a low opinion of Korean people’s intelligence and their reading comprehension abilities in relation to their own language!

  • A Korean

    I said people should cool their heads, stop blaming each other, and get their act together.

    You seem to agree (or do you), but you also seem still rather intent on calling out people/media in a rather inflammatory manner. ??? Muzzling the media is your solution?

  • Aja Aja

    I didn’t mention any solutions. If there is one, that’s questionable. What I’m sure of, it’s really difficult to tell what is really truth, and what is unverified hype. I just want verified facts, not printed unproven rumors.

  • redwhitedude

    Regardless it seems like there are way too many divers.

  • dlbarch

    I think that’s much closer to the truth…Samsux sees cross-platform compatibility as the holy grail (so does everyone else) and doesn’t want to be relegated to a delivery platform for Android.

    (The dirty little secret about Samsux is that if its products disappeared tomorrow, no one would miss them. They’d be immediately replaced by LG, HTC, and even Motorola. Take away Samsux’s admittedly impressive [and aggressive] relationships with its telecom vendors, and it doesn’t really have much actual comparative advantage. LG could replace Samsux in the smartphone space overnight!)

    In some ways, ya gotta hand it to a company like Samsux that puts out a monumentally awful product like Bada only to turn around and keep on trying…with Tizen. And I will say this: If Samsux succeeds with Tizen, then I think it truly will have earned a seat at the innovation table.

    Until then, it’s just a glorified component manufacturer.

    DLB

  • A Korean

    I came across a peculiar news report.

    NIS (???) put the brake on Sewol’s being put to water due to lax operating procedure. In response, the shipping company installed additional equipments and submitted in writing that they’ll comply with the additional requirements with strengthened operating procedure. That allowed Sewol to commence operating.

    In addition to the operation permit, NIS designated Sewol as an emergency passenger transport vessel.

    http://imnews.imbc.com/replay/2014/nwdesk/article/3458436_13490.html

  • Aja Aja

    The NIS stopped them because the ship was at risk of being carrier of unknown passengers (possibly terrorists or North Korean agents). The report says the NIS let the ship sail after they got a written promise from the ferry company to put 24 hour security around the ship, and to install CCTV video camera.

    The ferry company probably did not comply with the promise they had signed, because just yesterday, the number of dead and missing were revised as two more passengers were put on the list of missing and possibly dead. There were two unidentified Chinese passengers on board who did not have tickets, and were not in the original passenger list, but were confirmed as onboard. There’s also pretty strong signs that an identified baby was also on board. A baby formula bottle was found, and a crying baby were heard in some released videos from smartphones. This company and this ship kept such a poor record of its passengers that it has given the government officials fits, trying to come up with the final tally of who’s dead and who’s missing.

  • A Korean

    So it’s about border security/passenger tracking, not about safety regulation. In that light, NIS designating the ship as an emergency transport doesn’t look so absurd.

  • sloppycho

    Apple vs Samsung. Who will win the marketing battle during the World’s most exciting sporting event?

    Samsung’s got some big name players in that one photo.

    Wonder if Tim Cook knows the World Cup starts in about a month.