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Memorial hall for Ahn Jung-geun opens in Harbin

Harbin Railway Station is now the proud home of a memorial hall for Korean patriotic martyr Ahn Jung-geun:

A memorial opened on Sunday in Harbin, capital of northeast China’s Heilongjiang Province, to commemorate a Korean patriot who killed a top Japanese official over a century ago.

Ahn Jung Geun shot dead Hirobumi Ito, who had served as the prime minister of Japan four times before becoming resident-general of Korea in 1905, at Harbin railway station on Oct. 26, 1909. He was arrested at the scene of shooting and secretly executed in March 1910 by Japanese forces.

Covering an area of more than 100 square meters, the memorial hall consists of exhibition rooms telling the story of Ahn’s life, and shows the exact spot where the shooting took place.

Yonhap reports that the Chinese media is giving the opening major coverage, with much praise directed at Ahn by the press and Chinese netizens.

The Japanese press, meanwhile, is interpreting the opening of the memorial hall as a sign of Sino-Korean cooperation to pressure Japan on historical issues. One Japanese paper, the far-right Sankei Shimbun, suggested that China had been lukewarm about building the memorial after Korean President Park Geun-hye proposed it in June, but Japanese PM Abe Shinzo’s visit to the Yasukuni Shrine may have spurred Beijing to action.

You’ll recall that back in November, Japan’s Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga expressed displeasure about the statue, calling Ahn a “criminal.” Which, sadly, is just the sort of statement we’ve come to expect from high-ranking Japanese officials nowadays. Anyway, I’ll repeat here what I said back then:

Expect more of this cooperation between Korea and China in the future. I’m not especially comfortable with it, and ideally, I’d like to see greater cooperation between Korea and Japan. That said, Japan doesn’t make it easy sometimes. I’m not sure what Suga hoped to gain for Japan with his statement—scoring points with some domestic lobbies, perhaps?—but as an act of diplomacy, all it does is give propaganda material to Korea and China and drive Seoul closer to Beijing at a time when Tokyo really should be working to gain an ally.

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  • Japanese

    >at a time when Tokyo really should be working to gain an ally.

    I live in Japan for more than 40 years and have never known the general sentiment of Japanese against Koreans went this far bad. There were a lot of pro South Korean politicians in Japan, but not any more. It is very sad to see this.
    As to your comment, almost all Japanese now see that Korea will never be an ally no matter what.

  • ashley

    Great that they honor a patriot. However, Korea’s mistake is taking sides with China. United States will see this as pulling another ‘Roh’ and will favor Japan as the dominant military power in the region

  • SeoulGoodman

    The fact they would label an independence fighter as a “criminal” only serves to show that China and South Korea should get together more often to press Japan on historical issue. They can deny it all they want, when it comes to Japanese imperialism, history is on the side of Koreans and the Chinese.

  • SugarFruit

    Hope I didn’t bore you with a long reply.

    What I tried to say was – I said this over and over at Marmot’s Hole – China will do anything to create an anti-Japanese and anti-USA sentiments in Korea.

    I am sure you will find those 50 cents party (disguised as Japanese) in Japanese forums(including 2ch) too playing one side against the other.

  • SugarFruit

    S%$t! I posted a long reply earlier, but it disappeared!

    I will write again.

  • SugarFruit

    Hi Japanese,

    CCP have been working for a long time to penetrate into Korean Media (not to mention the politicians, citizens group, Korean Teachers’ Union, history scholars and entertainment world) and 99% of Koreans (who virtually became idiots thanks to Korean education system) are being spoon-fed by the CCP controlled media.

    When you have time, please read posts below which are translated into Japanese. They are quite long, but once you read them, you will know why the anti-Japanese sentiments is so strong in Korea.

    http://www.godemn.com/xe/asura_softcolumn/206168 (50cents pary,金盾工程 and the hackers)

  • SugarFruit

    http://www.godemn.com/xe/asura_softcolumn/197226 (Why China don’t want Korea to get along with Japan)

    http://www.godemn.com/xe/asura_softcolumn/189504

    http://www.godemn.com/xe/asura_softcolumn/181205 (how CCP penetrate into politicians using female spies)

  • SugarFruit

    Wonder what China is up to… is what many Koreans are thinking at the moment…If An Jung-geun was still alive, he would’ve killed all the pro-Chinese who say nothing about China’s North-East project.

  • SugarFruit

    I am anti-Japanese Imperialism (not Anti-Japanese).

    Those who were pro-Japanese during Japanese Imperialism are now pro-Chinese (if you betray once, why not betray twice and third time….).

  • JJ

    The Japanese interpreted those who defensed their own country as criminals as in the case of Ahn Jung-geun whilst those who invaded other country and then tortured, raped and killed millions as heroes and warriors as in the case of their own sadistic Japanese military.
    So much for all the BS glorification about Japan being a pacifist nation.

  • wangkon936

    When it comes to having better relations with Seoul, I feel as if China is playing chess whereas Tokyo is playing checkers.

  • redwhitedude

    I’d be wary of siding with China.

  • fea526252

    I’d gladly smash your face in.

  • few529529

    fuck off cunt, before you get your fucking stomach sliced open.

  • redwhitedude

    Not sure about that.

  • JJ

    Any particular reason why?

  • redwhitedude

    Their communist regime and how communist do things.

  • SugarFruit

    Well….I nearly said ’50 cents…cha-ching!”, but you may just very anti-Japanese.

    I am anti-Chin’il Pa; It’s Chin’Il Pa (pro-Japanese during the Japanese Imperialism) you should curse. These Chin’il Pa들 sold their soul to Japan, and now they are selling their soul to the DEVIL (CCP).

  • JJ

    Don’t think they are communists anymore. Except for some sideshow, nobody in China talks about communism nowadays. It’s more capitalism than U.S.

  • redwhitedude

    True but they are not really capitalist either if you look at how they operate politically. They still profess socialism and massive government interference and one party interest unlike the US. They also meddle in other areas such as the judiciary isn’t independent at all.

  • RElgin

    They are basically gangsters or a very large organized crime organization that has attempted to create bylaws and institutions that mimic government.

  • RElgin

    Considering how often the PRC changes and manufactures history to suit their political needs, this is a very naive comment.
    History is written by those with money and victors and is often biased, as such.

  • Koreandumbdumb

    The Chinese are smart. They know how to play the game. Koreans will fall for this “Japanese hate” thing and go to the Chinese side. Then, China will use Korea to attack Japan and later condemn Koreans as warmongers. A typical Chinese tactic.
    And, Koreans will fall for it. Koreans don’t know what they are doing. Still stuck at the generals and Jolla Commie game. Mass death and destruction lie in the path of Korea.

  • wangkon936

    I wonder if this memorial will have a monument that simulates a big middle finger pointed towards Japan like we have at USC pointed towards UCLA?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/30245601@N03/2832078614/

  • provIdence

    He only ruined the Great Empire of Korea, and the monument, if any and works the same, would be detrimental to both China and Korea.

  • SeoulGoodman

    Sure, the CCP’s version of history is questionable, to say the least, but it remains that the atrocities committed by Japan in the first half of the 20th century are well documented.

    My father knew several survivors of Japanese POW camps. He’s shared with me some of the stories they had told him. The Japanese guards were brutally cruel (for example, a prisoner injured some guards, but they weren’t sure who was responsible, so they threw 50 prisoners off a cliff).

  • Japanese

    >a big middle finger pointed towards Japan
    What do you want? Does hating Japan satisfy you? I know you will prohibit my access to this site.

  • wangkon936

    You took me seriously there? I was being facetious.

  • JinJoo

    I’ve mentioned that I am anti-Japanese Imperialism (not anti-Japanese). Chin’il-Pa (pro-Japanese) sold their soul to Japan and those very same Chin’Il-Pas are now selling their soul to the Devil (CCP).

    I am not denying Japan’s cruelties during the war, but it happened during the war.

    Consider CCP in modern days. They have eaten their own people alive during The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution which was exposed by Zheng Yi, a famous Chinese writer via a book titled Scarlet Memorial – Tales of Modern Carnibalism http://www.amazon.com/Scarlet-Memorial-Tales-Cannibalism-Modern/dp/0813326168. The story was in New York Times too a few years ago.

    China is notorious for the Falun Gong organ harvesting. By gagsters? No, by the government!

    Imagine if organ harvesting is done by the government who were supposed to catch the criminals, what about the gangsters? Many of these gangsters not only kidnap people in China, but also in Korea too.

    The crimes committed by Chinese and Joseon-Jok (thanks to No Mu-Heon they’ve entered Korea without getting their criminal background checked) have always been the greatest in Korea and the number of missing people is increasing masively. We believe many Chinese organ traffickers are the ones who are behind it (sure we only have circumstantial evidences – no proofs.)

    Koreans are going missing, but this is never raised as an issue. The media will only report the crimes committed by westerners (to Koreans all the westerners are Americans.)

    Also, China kill Americans with food, fish (there are millions of fish farms in China and these fish are fed with human fetus and hormones), toys etc and what do CCP say when questioned? ‘WTF’ is their atttitude. ( If you want to find out more about how China is killing America too, visit buy Death by China docu film produced by Dr Peter Navarro- http://deathbychina.com).

  • JinJoo

    I am SugarFruit by the way.

  • Guest

    What happened to the reply I posted earlier?

  • JinJoo

    Was it deleted because I mentioned cannibalism in Chinda during Cultural Revolution (1966 – 1976) and Chinese organ traffickers in Korea?

  • SeoulGoodman

    In other words, a tu quoque argument?

  • SeoulGoodman

    The Korean Peace Memorial in Saipan is located at the base of Suicide Cliff. I don’t know if it was intentionally so or not, but it’s a huge middle-finger to the Japanese who visit the site.
    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Korean_Peace_Memorial_in_Saipan.JPG

  • JinJoo

    A tu quoque argument?

    The cannibalism during the cultural revolution was exposed to the world by Zheng Yi. ‘Scarlet Memorial’ is a non-fiction (the story was even featured in New York Times a few years ago).

    http://www.amazon.com/Scarlet-Memorial-Tales-Cannibalism-Modern/dp/0813326168

    http://blog.daum.net/naxena7/1928596 (Extraction from Scarlet Memorial in Korean.)

    As for the Chinese organ traffickers, I guess I should have my own google blog. I will post in details including proofs and circumstantial evidences.

    Moderators, if you delete this too, I won’t complain.

  • JinJoo

    I now understood what tu quoque argument is.

    tu guoque = 너도 마찬가지 아니냐

    No, China can one million times be crueller than Japan.

  • SugarFruit

    I mean China is million times crueler than Japan. War makes people cruel, but China…… the way they treat human life (falungong practitioners) and animals says something about them.

  • redwhitedude

    They do whatever they feel like and make a show about it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/be.way.5 Be Way

    Maybe that’s accurate in certain aspect as they are still trying to improve their system of governance but then what does it got to do with Korea when you said you are wary of siding with China.

  • redwhitedude

    It tends to be reflected on their foreign policy.

  • wangkon936

    Ah, but it would be a huge middle finger to Koreans who visit the site too, no?

  • JJ

    Hello, dumbdumb. I think you should not imagine something unrealistic. Come back to earth instead of floating somewhere neither heaven nor hell. I will think it could be (likely to be) the other round where conflict between both side of Korea will start escalating into everyone war.

  • JJ

    Care to elaborate the specific case?

  • redwhitedude

    The issue with Tibet and the Dalai Lama.

  • JinJoo

    Don’t need to elaborate. If you side with gangsters, you are regarded as a gangster too.

    What do you think are universal values? Does China pursue universal values?

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    True, they are just nationalistic fascists these days.

  • JinJoo

    “Don’t anger China please” – an article written by an Indian columnist which is worth reading. Every time a country head has a meeting with the Dalai Lama, CCP makes sure the leader gets paid for it. China thinks they can do anything with their economic power. But at the end of the day,will these leaders side with China?

    http://claudearpi.blogspot.com.au/2013/06/dont-anger-china-please.html

  • JinJoo

    “Don’t anger China please” – an article written by an Indian columnist which is worth reading. Every time a country head has a meeting with the Dalai Lama, CCP makes sure the leader gets paid for it. China thinks they can do anything with their economic power. But at the end of the day,will these leaders side with China? (I mean if they have to choose between the USA – who AT LEAST STILL PURSUE the universal values – and China.)

    http://claudearpi.blogspot.com.au/2013/06/dont-anger-china-please.html

  • redwhitedude

    Mixed with socialism in the form of government meddling in everything.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    As I said before, fascism and communism are essentially economic terms. Often, there are other nasty things that come with both. But China has taken on the corporatist mode of economic organization, a.k.a. fascism, and laid on the nationalistic embellishments.

  • JJ

    The issue on Tibet is much complicated than that.
    Firstly from historical point, it’s always Tibetans who had created problems with China when they first attacked and ransacked Chang’an during the Tang Dynasty, Then they conspired with the Mongols and Manchus to conquer and then ruled China together for many centuries. If the Tibetans have no complain that Tibet is part of China then, why should they argued now that Tibet should not be part of China now.
    Secondly Dalai Lama is not an innocent party as what many naïve people believed. He is sponsored behind by the CIA and NED as part of the geopolitical power play against China. All these propaganda of China of human right abuse against Tibetans are part of whole agenda.

  • JJ

    It’s not bad for these “gangsters” that they are able to uplift the hundreds of millions of the common Chinese people from abject poverty to have better comfortable lives. They neither sell drugs like what U.K once did nor sell military weapons like what U.S has been doing all the while. They are just selling toys, clothing, electronic goods and even Xmas trees to the world. So what is wrong to paint them as gangsters.

  • JJ

    Please kindly elaborate why the Chinese are fascists.

  • redwhitedude

    1. one party that embodies the state. CCP is China.
    2. It no longer seems to emphasize class conflict but rather it tends to use nationalism.
    3. Unions only recognized unions by the party.
    You guys can add more but this is just as a start.

  • wangkon936

    4. They support a regime that is clearly fascist. You are judged by the friends that you keep…

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    The Chinese are corporatist. Corporatism is also known as fascism. You need to understand the economic term for fascism. But on top of the corporatism/fascism in economic sense, they are also employing many of the things you may associate with fascism in 1930s Italy or Germany.

    Typical definition of corporatism:

    “the organization of a society into industrial and professional corporations serving as organs of political representation and exercising control over persons and activities within their jurisdiction.”

    China

  • JinJoo

    “…If the Tibetans have no complain that Tibet is part of China then, why should they argued now that Tibet should not be part of China now…”

    => I will search more on this… in the mean time what do you think of ‘Treaty between Tibet and China AD. 821-822″

    http://claudearpi.blogspot.com.au/2013/06/tibetans-shall-be-happy-in-land-of.html (talks about it in the middle of the post)

    “…Dalai Lama is not an innocent party as what many naïve people believed. He is sponsored behind by the CIA and NED as part of the geopolitical power play against China…”

    => Incredible! These are exact words CCP keeps telling everybody over and again. You are not a 50 cents party, are you?

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Yep.

  • JinJoo

    “…Chinese people from abject poverty to have better comfortable lives….”

    “…They neither sell drugs like what U.K once did….”

    =>You must be kidding! I strongly recommend that to get a documentary film titled “Death by China” produced by Dr Peter Navarro, a business professor at the University of California, Irvine.

    Find out if CCP actually provided better comfortable life or environment of living hell to the Chinese people.

    “…They are just selling toys, clothing, electronic goods and even Xmas trees to the world….”

    => Sure! And they poison people all over the world with food and toys.

    For now, I am not even going to mention how Chinese food affected Koreans’ health. According to the ‘Death by China’ dvd, there were interviews with parents whose babies and children died from the poisonous toys.

    There are millions of fish farms in China, and they feed the fish with human feces and hormones (tons and tons of these fishes are exported to the USA, and FDA, somehow, can only inspect 1% of these at the custom.)

    A hacking tool was installed in a teapot (yes, in a teapot) and the USA officially announced that they won’t use Hwawei products (they keep finding more and more China made computers with hacking viruses.)

    “…sell military weapons like t U.S…”,

    =>I’ve read a newspaper article where it says that China provides military weapons to the middle east countries (who regard the USA as their ultimate enemy) to get them on China’s side. I will search for it and post it here.

  • RElgin

    The CCP leadership *are* gangsters since they adhere to no ethical or moral policies and use rule of law only when it achieves what they want. Their business practices are very corrupt as well and as dynastic as any Mafia family has ever been. The average Chinese has little stake in this since they are basically a hostage to this circumstance.

    The leadership are gangsters.

  • JJ

    “Dalai Lama is not an innocent party as what many naïve people believed. He is sponsored behind by the CIA and NED as part of the geopolitical power play against China”

    You can goggle the fact written by many sources.

  • JJ

    1. The uplifting of hundreds of millions of Chinese to middle class can’t be denied. Any little other distraction is bearable I think
    2. Other than melamine in milk that causes a few casualties and also a specific case of lead in toy, what else is poisonous from Chinese foods. Can’t simply generalize for the sake of generalization rite.
    3. No, the Chinese will be more embarrassed at their lack of shortcomings when comparing with the U.S NSA which operate the most advanced and sophisticated surveillance network spying on everyone including the spouses of allies. The honorable champion for spying, hacking, peeping or whatever you called it, should be bestowed to U.S and no other.
    4. What you read is not important as the fact had already being known is that U.S exported military hardware exceeded the rest of the world combined many times over.

  • JJ

    Your accusation is too vague to understand. Please provide specific scenario or cases.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    The CCP only draws upon 5000 years of Chinese tradition of government. Its a country where the State was everything, and continues to be.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    The building of the 3 Gorges Dam was a fine example of the CCP not letting anything get in their way.

  • RElgin

    . . . Only if you consider institutionalized corruption a tradition, only now it is on an industrial scale:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25823953

  • RElgin

    . . . or any number of examples but here is a current one:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25823953

  • Pingback: So, Mr. Suga, what IS the other side?

  • Koreandumbdumb

    NK is a satellite country under China. KJU follows the Chinese command verbatim. When Xi tells him to bark, he will bark literally. Of course, Xi can tell KJU to attack SK. And, he may do just that after 2015.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Why would the ancient Chinese be immune from the corruption that power brings?

  • JJ

    I will think China should build more environment clean source of power generation like dam, gas, solar and even wind instead of depending heavily on coal generated power plant currently which polluted their environment badly. The 3 Gorges Dam is a good mean to generate power without with hundreds of coal generated plants will have to be built.

  • RElgin

    . . . a whole agenda of misinformation and manufactured history on the part of the PRC-Han dominated whole, you mean – not to mention all of that mineral wealth that is in Tibet too. I wonder who profits from all that?

  • JJ

    I believe China is not the most corrupted nation on earth. The titles should go to India and U.S.

  • RElgin

    India does have problems with corruption, definitely, but you are being disingenuous in claiming the US is more corrupt than others:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25823953

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2013/results/

    Wrong on the US part, right on the India; still extremely corrupt.

  • JJ

    Alaska oil? Who profited from it?

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Is the US violently occupying Alaska?

    Do you work for the CCP? If you do, tell your leaders I piss on their photos every morning

  • RElgin

    Ha, nonsense.
    America bought Alaska. They did not steal it or wage war upon indigenous peoples to get it. You just don’t want to admit how bad the CCP leadership really is.

  • RElgin

    Corruption is a problem of humanity but why should we desire and praise the poison that kills so much around us? If we can not do any better than “ancient Chinese”, then all of us are doomed.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    when did I praise it?

  • JJ

    U.S is indeed one of the most corrupted nation on earth but again with U.S reigned supreme as the lone superpower of the world, nobody will dare to paint them as corrupted.

    With so many financial scandals like Dot.com bubble, Subprime mortgage and many others where trillions of dollars went missing (or more appropriately to the pockets of the banksters, fraudsters and MNCs), nobody was even caught nor sentenced. Also whoever President was voted does not matter as the country is run behind by warmonger Industrial Military Complex. Here billions of dollars were traded between the political and military elites. Heard before how Halliburton owned by Cheney got its billions from Iraq war.

  • JJ

    @Reigin/Salaryman
    No, I didn’t mention Alaska under U.S is illegal. What I am trying to say that the profit from rich resources Alaska like oil are all siphoned away by the big fat oil companies. China is not worst off than U.S when it comes to profit from mineral extraction.

  • JJ

    If indeed NK is a satellite country under China, the latter will have develop it so well that the world will equally be amazed in the same way as per China progress of development. For all we know, NK only bring bad luck to the Chinese. KJU is nothing more a brainless stubborn Korean cow.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    No one is amazed at Chinese progress. China is nothing but cheap labor and your growth is a byproduct of Western investment in your corrupt, polluted crap-hole. China does not develop its satellites. It tries to take control and suck them dry.

  • JinJoo

    “…Other than melamine in milk that causes a few casualties and also a specific case of lead in toy, what else is poisonous from Chinese foods. Can’t simply generalize for the sake of generalization rite.”

    PLUS fake rice and eggs made from plastic, oil made with feces (please everyone, if you ever visit China, do not buy street foods; 99.9% use oil made with feces). rats sold as lamb meat, fake port/ beef meat, vegetables washed with dirty waters (lower-end Korean restaurants serve Kim-chi made in China).

    There was an incident recently where a whole school suffered from food poisoning after eating Kim-Chi http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=159&oid=449&aid=0000000829 ). I can list an endless incidents like this.

    When maggots were found in Chinese Chilli Powder and Garlic, Korea, at the beginning, said it didn’t want these any more and what did China say? They said they didn’t want to import electric goods in retribution.

    Thousands and thousands people were demonstrating against American beef instigated by China backed leftist citizens group. Now what do these group say about made-in China products? Mmms…

    The polluted water is probably the biggest problem. You don’t just see soiled water; you see green coloured, blue coloured and red coloured water.

    No wonder you see all kinds of deformed people in China,

    Interesting thing is Chinese in Hong Kong (Cantonese) feel insulted if you ask them if they are Chinese (from main land). They just know about main land Chinese inside and out.

    Below is a post about Chinese food. Even if you can’t read Korean (I am guessing you are either Joseon-Jok or a Chinese), a picture is worth for thousands words anyway.

    http://www.godemn.com/xe/index.php?mid=asura_softcolumn&page=3&document_srl=4744 (Korean)

    http://www.godemn.com/xe/asura_softcolumn/254429 (Japanese)

    More replies on the way.

  • JJ

    Whether you are amazed or not doesn’t really matter but the salient fact is that no country has ever developed their country from nothing to become the 2nd economic powerhouse of the world in such short period of time, with No 1 just around the corner.
    There is nothing wrong when labor is cheap and the job is decent. Yes of course the Chinese barely survived on the meager income but they do endured the hardship with determination and the rewards is that the Chinese income are no longer cheap by all accounts. What is that to be shameful to the Chinese when the Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese follows the same cycle too. The South Koreans are no better off in the earlier years as well. The North Koreans are still living no better than the pigs.
    On your accusation that the Chinese sucked its satellites dry, please provide the real scenario, pls.

  • JinJoo

    “….including the spouses of allies…”

    => That happened in Australia. Australia tapped Indonesia’s first lady’s phone.

    Anyway, all countries, whether or not they are allies in the fight against terrorism, spy on each other.

    The difference between most of the countries and China
    is that most of the countries do it for their countries’ securities (and USA as the police of the world). However, China wants to be the superpower of the world and the USA, of course, is the biggest competitor (I don’t bloody care who the superpower is as long as the superpower pursues the universal values… but China?????).

    China’s attitude at the moment is “we can not rest till our enemies are taken care of. It is either to eat or to be
    eaten!”

    Below is a map of China that is surrounded by pro-usa countries.

    http://flow2733.blog.me/memo/20193960168

    China wants to do whatever it can to get Korea and middle east countries to be on its side.

    Below will answer some of your questions above. It is written by an anti-China person and I don’t agree with the whole post, especially the first few paragraphs where the author bashes China unnecessarily. I am only an anti-CCP.

    http://www.godemn.com/xe/asura_softcolumn/245248

    Most of the issues in the post, were posted in Korean with facts (proofs) and/ or circumstantial evidences.

  • JinJoo

    >I’ve read a newspaper article where it says that China provides military weapons to the middle east countries (who regard the USA as their ultimate enemy) to get them on China’s side. I will search for it and post it here.

    => Wrong information. China’s technology is not advanced enough to make state of art military weapons yet; they only just stole the know-hows from the USA.

  • RElgin

    There is *much* done by the families of Mao’s general’s that is unaccounted and the treasure trove these few have amounted is beyond my reckoning. The Chinese people pay for their luxury, I might add. The American people indirectly have paid for the sub-loan crisis, however, there is no system of corruption that threatens them at the slightest expression of discontent too.

    Which country is more fortunate then?

  • redwhitedude

    They are pretty much accused of copying from other countries. Their “R&D” consists of stealing from others.

  • redwhitedude

    How about the Beijing Olympics? $40Billion!? When the leadership wants to do something they shut everybody else up even if the critics bring very important and legit concerns. Screw everything else and do it just for propaganda value.

  • redwhitedude

    Sounds like China. Instead of class conflict everybody is viewed as an arm of the state. What is worse is that the CCP acts for its own interest.

  • JinJoo

    “……melamine in milk that causes a few casualties and…”

    => Few casualties?

    By November 2008, China reported an estimated 300,000 victims,[1] with six infants dying from kidney stones and other kidney damage, and an estimated 54,000 babies being hospitalised…..read more…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

    In 2012, the whistleblower who exposed the levels of contamination was stabbed to death…..

    http://www.pursuitofhappiness.com.au/opportunity/the-secret-to-chinas-7-billion-milk-market/5803/

  • Koreandumbdumb

    Many NKs speak fluent Chinese and travel to China. They are bordering countries. SK newspapers pretend that China and NK are totally separate countries. They are “blood brothers”, ie mutual defense treaty times 100. If the US attacks NK, China will enter the war for sure like they did in Korean war. China keeps NK poor and stupid so that NKs will follow China without question. KJU is a cow that follows the leader, Xi. China can tell NK to attack SK tomorrow and KJU will oblige. This is the fact that SK newspapers that support Jolla Commies hide. Because Jolla Commies, 떼중 넘현, want Korea to become China’s slave.

  • Koreandumbdumb

    There are lots of disinformation in papers. But China rescued NK and set it up again with their blood. In the East, when a country does this, the benefit receiver become the slave. That is what NK is. The slave to China. Newspaper people have no access to the governing body of China nor NK. So they write fiction. China and NK are blood brothers, very tight.

  • RElgin

    Can you not read links (above) or do research on the internet or do you merely enjoy playing dumb?

  • RElgin

    There is also the case of Chinese honey that is tainted with metals or anti-biotics that is exported to Vietnam or even Korea, repackaged as being local and re-exported to an American market. This is just one of many cases, not to mention the toxic dog food that was produced from tainted Chinese ingredients. That stuff killed my father’s dog.

    http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/08/honey-laundering/

    “JJ”, you asked the kind of question that we could spend all day trying to answer. Most Chinese know of these problems, how is it that you seem so unaware?

  • JJ

    China and NK are blood brothers? No where near. Can’t even think of one instance where China really controlled NK but in reverse, the SK is a real stooge to the U.S.

  • JinJoo

    True. NK doesn’t trust China either. KJL’s last words before he died was “Be wary of China!”. Jang Sung-Taek who were purged by KJU recently was one of the pro-China group.

    “…..the SK is a real stooge to the U.S…”

    => With your language ability, I bet CCP pays more than 50 cents per reply.

  • RElgin

    Chinese oil companies are owned by CCP cadre and they have off-shore accounts to hide their money in. This is in the current NY Times as well.

    American Oil companies get away with quite a few liberties, due to their influence but they are not the leadership cadre for America, nor is there a dynastic control over the companies as there is in the PRC.

  • redwhitedude

    ssshhhhhh! That’s “state secret”. lol

  • wangkon936

    “American Oil companies get away with quite a few liberties…”

    Sex, drugs and rock ‘n’ roll from oil companies directed at middle-aged, balding, boring bureaucrat types over at the U.S. Department of Interior helped lubricate the fluidity of transactions… ;)

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gzO51EMClwPdlSC_ckfF5rK_EirQ

  • RElgin

    Exactly but it is not as if they are all related and represent an influence in government.

  • RElgin

    All these words to cover enslavement and coercion that is an ongoing reality in Tibet. Being a part of the PRC might even be useful if it were not for the cultural genocide and suppression that is a large part of the CCPs plan for the region.

  • JinJoo

    China Exhibit, Part of an Anti-Japan Campaign, Reflects an Escalating Feud (New York Times) – Latest news on Ahn Jung-geun

    NY Times sure knows what China is up to.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/world/asia/china-exhibit-part-of-an-anti-japan-campaign-reflects-an-escalating-feud.html?hpw&rref=world