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Open Thread: Dec 14, 2013

Great, more snow.

Have a good weekend, folks.

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  • Jakgani

    furst !! (not spelling mistake – I am a cat)

  • David Miller

    Just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 3.

    Technological advancement has come a long way.

  • Dan Strickland

    Wish I were there; I love snow.

  • bigmamat

    It’s rained here for days, and it’s cold. This doesn’t bode well for the rest of the winter. Not looking forward to the months from January through March if it’s going to be gray everyday.

  • Dokdoforever

    What is your favorite online Eng-Kor/ Kor-Eng dictionary? I usually use naver but have heard some like Daum. Anyone have another favorite?

  • Koreandumbdumb

    Comrades, we are on the moon. Since that is out of the way, let’s have some fun. Let kill some Japs. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/10517920/State-TV-in-China-broadcasts-Moon-landing.html

  • Koreandumbdumb

    There is rumor that the Chinese troops are gathering near the China-NK border.http://economy.hankooki.com/lpage/politics/201312/e2013121317042893120.htm I think this is made up by KCIA but you never know. The Chinese troops can move in with the excuse of maintaining calm after Jang’s killing. Then, the troops may move quickly to near NK-SK border. The Chinks may want to show to Obama that they are serious.

  • Koreandumbdumb

    A Korean polysci professor wrote that SK needs a military coup to fight Communists(Jollas) and “PGH and 7 dwarfs”. I agree. Especially when a war breaks out. PGH cannot handle the war. A stronger leadership is wanted to steer the country in one direction. Otherwise SK may have a civil war and eventually eaten up by the Chinese. Korea must declare its color.

  • yangachi, are you there?

    Not funny. Screw you Y of the dragon, apodyopsis gymnophoria, crash.

  • guest

    Yet more sexual abuse and subsequence cover up in they glorious land.

    http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2981992&cloc=joongangdaily

  • Scared_Silent

    I have a story of yet more sexual abuse and subsequent cover up in the glorious land. I also have documentation. I have been trying to write about it for a long time. Good luck, even post Sandusky, to get the American institutional connections to even acknowledge the receipt of the emails.

    Eventually the story will blow up, and my Korean-American children will be ruined. If (when?) you see this in Korea, make a bee-line for an exit plan or close your eyes and keep your mouth shut.

  • ryuNchoosk

    “close your eyes and keep your mouth shut.”

    Where is the police in S. Korea? Why aren’t they involved? If everyone “keeps their eyes closed and shuts their mouths” as YOU suggest then there won’t ever be any police involvement, only talks of “disciplinary action” or “pay cuts” which so far is all we’re talking about in this case according to the joongangilbo.

    Let’s just all shut up and let this guy teach(since it’s his human right) “blind” young girls again after his “disciplinary action,”

    Sandusky was slime but his victims weren’t “blind” and nobody(the nurse in this case) “tried to convince the victims that the sexual advances were gestures of encouragement and support.”

  • Juniper

    Ah, Yangachi. I remember that old grease-ball meth-head. Funny thing about MH commenters, come and go. But he had a big mouth about what a super place Korea was, like most of the ones who’ve never lived here.

  • seouldout

    I think he was here for a month or two, then his Korean wife (wife #3?) split, and there was nothing to keep him and his son around.

  • David Miller

    Where is my comment?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    That’s so existential.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Where did you leave it last?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Did you ever notice how it’s always in the last place you look?

  • aligner

    Do you mean that advertisement for some kind of Samsung gadget – Mr. Miller? I believe advertising is not allowed here.

  • bballi

    wait…it is ok to call italians grease balls?

  • RElgin

    Product placement is a no-no, especially Samsung products.

  • Juniper

    Fucking hilarious. Weren’t there like pages written by him extolling the virtues of the La Donna Coreana compared to the unfaithful slags of the West?

  • David Miller

    I never advertised it though…

    So we can’t even talk about Samsung here?

    I guess this applies to Apple as well?

  • David Miller

    Anyway I wanted to discuss whether you guys think Korea may follow Japan’s path of becoming an indebted country.

    Japan’s debt totals to 250% of its GDP, and it can not be reversed with any amount of possible inflation.

    Korea’s debt totals 33.7% of its GDP and it can be reversed if the right financial strategy is in place.

    What I’m worried is that Korea may become a welfare state.

    Korea must boost the birth rate or else it will face the same fate as Japan.

  • RElgin

    Look up David Breen or look at the Samsung corporate logo chiseled into the base of the Korean patriot Ahn Chang-ho’s statue in Dosan Park downtown and you might see why many are reluctant to participate in plugging Samsung products and are distrustful of people who pop up out of nowhere to suddenly waxing warmly over their products.
    Don’t worry about Apple – we don’t plug for them either.

  • RElgin

    Cheez you’re naughty.

  • PEIGUY

    They just don’t give up.. I wonder how many 777′s landed on that runway that day under VFR.. http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/12/119_147974.html

  • Scared_Silent

    I know a lot about the Sandusky case. They buried Joe Paterno, university president Graham Spanier, the BOT, and the AD, because they didin’t dig enough. If anyone has read the emails, they didn’t know.

    Now come to Korea. I experienced first-hand the coveup, extortion, threats, and grave danger to my family. I have so much evidence that shows organizational corruption that such organizations, particularly in education, can only exist in Korea.

    “Where are the police in S. Korea?”, you asked. I lived in fear of them because I reported the abuse and fraud within the organization. The very powerful president signed an order for my arrest. They withheld my pay, evicted my family, have my personal belongings, stole my pension contributions, severance is gone. You are powerless against a Korean.

    I will see this through, but I will tell anyone else: either RUN AWAY or KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. I don’t mean to sound boastful, but none of you have the financial resources I have (or had). You don’t have better educations or went to better universities. You are not physically bigger or stronger. You certainly don’t have more damning documentation, and you do not have the access to the powers that be at your institutions.

    Most (yes, The_Korean, most) of these institutions are frauds, the people within these institutions know about and are complicit in the fraud, and the outside regulatory agencies’ will neglect to research the fraud. You can’t even get this to newspapers: “Korea is not a whistle-blowing culture.”

  • Koreandumbdumb

    We are trying to be religious. …It is the only message that will take you to Heaven. It is the only message that will give you strength to bear..”

    http://www.intouch.org/broadcast/this-week-on-tv

  • ryuNchoosk

    “Ha Jong-sun, an attorney representing Korean passengers on the flight, told reporters in Seoul that the U.S. aviation authorities’ findings shed new light on problems with the way Boeing made planes, and more importantly how it did not rectify obvious shortcomings in safety.”

    Don’t worry Mr. Ha, it’s sounding like you’ll be getting your money in a
    roundabout way from Asiana Airlines. But to be safe, you better add SF
    Airport on the sue list since Jeong, Woon-shik(see below) thinks it’s their
    fault too because Incheon Airport is so much better.

    “Jeong Woon-shik, an aviation professor at Jungwon University in Goesan, North Chungcheong Province, said, “SFO was one of the only places where big planes, such as Boeing 777s, were forced to land without a glide-slope indicator because it was out of order at the time. This shows how poor the management of the airport is in operating its systems.”
    Jeong, a former pilot with 26 years experience flying both military and
    commercial jets, said there has not been one such case at Incheon International Airport since it opened in 2003.”

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    Korea’s debt does not total 33.7% of GDP. You and I are victims of governmental fraud. Korea’s public debt has already outstripped 80% of GDP, when one takes into account the massive debts of the state-owned corporations which are nominally “private” policy arms of government. The Korea Land & Housing Corporation (LH) alone has debts approaching 15% of GDP. Another fun fact is the state-owned corporations’ debt is increasing at a double-digit annual rate of growth.

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    Ridiculous. Discussion of Korean products isn’t allowed on a Korea-focused expat blog?

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    There’s no David Breen. Are you thinking of Michael Breen?

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    Here’s a nice graphical representation of the debts held by Korea’s state-owned enterprises. (From the Korea Herald, April 25, 2013)

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    If you ain’t World Best™ you ain’t shit.

  • dlbarch

    For anyone who cares, according to the IIAC and the FAA, in 2012 SFO had 425,000 aircraft operations and moved 44,500,000 passengers.

    For that same year, ICN had just 254,000 aircraft operations and moved just 39,000,000 passengers.

    These airports are not comparable…ICN, despite being THE hub of Korea’s air transport infrastructure, is considerably smaller than SFO, and orders of magnitude smaller than LAX.

    So congrats to Prof. Jeong from No-Name U. in Podunk, Korea, for both having the intellectual gravitas to compare apples to oranges AND manage to re-enforce the image of Korea as a place where excuses fly left and right so long as they manage to blame others for the fact that Asiana pilots apparently can’t flight without someone holding their hand.

    DLB

  • PEIGUY

    Bob Hertan, Associate Professor of Aviation Safety and Human Factors at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, said the glide slope indicator is a nice piece of equipment to have for a pilot coming in to land.

    “What it does, it provides you with vertical and horizontal information that tells you your relationship to the center line of the runway and the distance from the runway,” he said.

    Hertan added, “But there’s still enough information in the cockpit that even if they have the aircraft improperly configured, there should be other indicators that are telling them the aircraft is not doing what you were hoping it would do.”

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/08/22/glide-slope-indicator-operating-at-sfo-for-1st-time-since-crash/

    Opinions are like arseholes.. everyone has one..

  • RElgin

    Good God, I’m getting senile and hanging around too many Davids. Yes . . .

  • RElgin

    . . . or you mean, maybe, “works on marketing them by placing mentions of them everywhere on the internet”.

  • RElgin

    Wangkon kept telling me that I was full of fluff for warning about household debt in Korea and that baby tiger is getting to be rather large just now. Soon we will have to feed him lest he catches our scent and thinks we are wild pig.

  • RElgin

    Well, at least I don’t need to book a flight on Asiana to get there.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Brendon Carr: “There’s no David Breen.”

    Not anymore anyway, not after the Samsung incident.

  • seouldout

    For the sake of grins and giggles let’s assume Prof Jeong’s point is a valid one. Since SFO had released the info of inop glide scope and Asiana knew of it what business did these pilots cockpit passengers have attempting to land at a degraded airport, one requiring skills beyond their collective competence? Were the pilots too embarrassed to fess up?

    As for SFO mismanagement:

    “Ten days before Asiana Airlines Flight 214 came up short of the runway at San Francisco International Airport, the airport moved the runway’s target landing area 300 feet farther from San Francisco Bay. Aviation experts said the change might have been a big factor in preventing the crash from turning into a large-scale disaster.

    On Tuesday, the National Transportation Safety Board said the Asiana plane’s landing gear clipped the sea wall, causing it to crash. Had the plane been undershooting but aiming for a
    point closer to the water—as the runway was previously configured—the crash could have been more deadly, experts said.

    “That 300 feet saved him,” said Kit Darby, a former United Airlines pilot who says he has landed hundreds of times at SFO, as the San Francisco airport is commonly known. “If they were 300 feet short, the plane would have been draped over the sea wall
    at best. And at worst, it would’ve been short of it,” he said.” WSJ, 10 July 2013

    The construction work was undertaken to comply with FAA requirements.

  • seouldout

    What’s the issue/controversy with the Shamsung logo on the statue? Lee’s pro-Japanese collaboration?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    I don’t think Lee’s pro-Japanese collaboration is the problem with Samsung’s corporate sponsorship of Korea’s patriot martyr.

  • seouldout

    Then what is the problem?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Someone help me here. I’ve got nothin’.

  • RElgin
  • seouldout

    Ah, ethics. Okie dokie. Thanks, m8.

  • RElgin

    I just had a Samsung serviceman out to look at my monitor, which is having the same problem with a part that it had two years ago. This time, instead of quoting me 40,000 won for a fix, the guy says at least 200,000 won and he only looks at it from the outside and charges me 10,000 won to tell me this.

    It is time to buy an LG or something with better quality parts.

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    What’s the part? You might look up the relevant KFTC guideline.

  • RElgin

    That is a great idea if I knew where to find that.
    I do strongly suspect the same cheap Chinese component is failing again but this time Uncle Samsung wants to soak me for it.

  • SeoulGoodman

    I just heard that the South Korean government has supposedly passed a law today scrapping the universal healthcare system. We will have to buy insurance from private companies from now on.

  • SeoulGoodman

    Actually, I just read it was announced on the 13th…but it was done so on the sly.

  • David Miller

    That’s public sector debt, not public debt.

    My data comes from the CIA factbook. 2012 est.:

    South Korea: 35% of GDP
    Japan: 215% of GDP

  • Sumo294

    PGH cannot handle a war? Wow, . . . wow. Maybe–but just thank your lucky stars it will never be Mr. Noh.

  • aligner

    Really – do you have more information on this? A link or something?

    From what I have understand, the Korean government is only proposing an amendment be made to the present system allowing patients to be given the option of having telemedicine treatment, and some netizens have jumped on this to mean that the Korean government is in the process of nationalizing its health insurance. I believe nothing has been passed yet in this regards.

  • SeoulGoodman

    It also wants to open for-profit hospitals. When you consider both changes you can see where this is headed. It’s not just a some netizens but the organisation that represents most, if not all, doctors.

  • aligner

    This is quite interesting to me. Can you send me a link to the original information that you read?

    I think the issue is quite complicated. Korean hospitals are more no-profit than non-profit, because it is impossible to make money legally given the ridiculously low prices the government sets for standard treatments and medical testing. This also leads to corruption, and unnecessary “elective” medical treatments and prophylactic measures to prevent diseases that never would have developed in the first place.

  • SeoulGoodman

    You need to understand that healthcare is a right, not a business transaction. And yet, the law was rewritten which allows hospitals to charge for every service provided, from bringing patients their medicine to wiping their noses. People will have no choice other than to get private healthcare insurance. As for my sources, my wife works in healthcare, as well as many of our friends (nurses and doctors). It’s no secret that the current government wishes to privatize national corporations…and what would be the juiciest piece, the one corporations would love to sink their teeth into? Healthcare.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    A federal judge issued a ruling related to the NSA data mining program. How much will this affect Snowden?

    Judge: NSA domestic phone data-mining unconstitutional

    Washington (CNN) — A federal judge said Monday that he believes the government’s once-secret collection of domestic phone records is unconstitutional, setting up likely appeals and further challenges to the data mining revealed by classified leaker Edward Snowden.

    U.S. District Judge Richard Leon said the National Security Agency’s bulk collection of metadata — phone records of the time and numbers called without any disclosure of content — apparently violates privacy rights.

    His preliminary ruling favored five plaintiffs challenging the practice, but Leon limited the decision only to their cases.

    “I cannot imagine a more ‘indiscriminate’ and ‘arbitrary invasion’ than this systematic and high-tech collection and retention of personal data on virtually every citizen for purposes of querying and analyzing it without prior judicial approval,” said Leon, an appointee of President George W. Bush. “Surely, such a program infringes on ‘that degree of privacy’ that the Founders enshrined in the Fourth Amendment.”

    Leon’s ruling said the “plaintiffs in this case have also shown a strong likelihood of success on the merits of a Fourth Amendment claim,” adding “as such, they too have adequately demonstrated irreparable injury.”

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    That limitation is just an invitation to further lawsuits. And I hope that they come in bunches. Snowden will have lasting effects and Time’s choice of the communist Pope a the Person of the Year was a move of cowardice.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    You nailed it that Snowden should have been Time’s choice for Person of the Year, and you also nailed Time’s cowardice.

  • wangkon936

    I guess the only problem with Snowden is that he is a fugitive after all. That may not play well with Time’s core Baby Boomer generation readership.

    Perhaps Time may make choices that would appeal more to the millennial generation, but they never buy enough magazines off the racks or via subscription for their choices to really be put into account by Time’s editors and publishers.

  • RElgin

    Time has had the likes of GW Bush and Stalin – twice – on its covers. These guys don’t know good from bad, instead, I would say if they choose something, then it is likely be a flawed choice if not poor taste.

  • RElgin

    I like this new theme much more than any before. It also seems that Disqus loads faster as well.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    An update at the link above has the following:

    In a statement distributed by journalist Glenn Greenwald, who first reported the leaks, Snowden said he acted on the belief that the mass surveillance program would not withstand a constitutional challenge, and that Americans deserved a judicial review.

    “Today, a secret program authorized by a secret court was, when exposed to the light of day, found to violate Americans’ rights. It is the first of many,” according to Snowden, who is living in Russia under a grant of asylum to avoid prosecution over the leaks in the United States.

    Greenwald said the judge’s ruling vindicates what Snowden did.

    “I think it’s not only the right, but the duty of an American citizen in Edward Snowden’s situation to come forward, at great risk to himself, and inform his fellow citizens about what it is their government is doing in the dark that is illegal,” the journalist told CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360″ Monday night.

  • ryuNchoosk

    If my math is correct that would mean that Korean airline companies sell them seats
    Incheon Airport/planes 39.000.000/254.000 = 154 passengers per flight
    SFO Airport/planes 44.500.000/425.000 = 104 passengers per flight

  • seouldout

    Completely disagree. Now approx. 20% of the screen (the left side) is just black. What a waste of real estate. The absence of Robert’s photo at the top banner really detracts from the blog’s distinctiveness and attractiveness. Before was better.

  • wangkon936

    That 20% to the left might be space for ads. Which although unsightly, could be useful for revenue, which would help pay for the bandwidth and perhaps a little honorarium for the head blogger, his guest bloggers and moderators, thus allowing them to spend more time on the blog and raise its overall quality.

  • Wedge1

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: If you can’t manually land an airplane in excellent visibility and a minimal crosswind, then you have no business being in the cockpit. You are simply a technician who can program a flight plan into a multifunctional control display unit, nothing more.

  • Wedge1

    The airport still had these lights to aid visual approaches:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_approach_slope_indicator

    However, I know they are tough to use, since it requires actually looking outside the cockpit.

  • Wedge1

    They’re trying to get you to buy a new one. I would do that except make sure it says “LG” at the bottom.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Maybe those English teachers SMOE discarded could do that job.

  • ryuNchoosk

    After hearing how “very stressed,” “nervous,” and “concerned,” those Korean pilot(s) were, I’d like to recommend a movie for them to watch, it’s titled “Planes”
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1691917/
    “A cropdusting plane with a fear of heights lives his dream of…”

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Sure, just so long as you don’t make any sweeping or unqualified generalizations about Koreans.

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    Sure it can. In fact, it just was.

  • WMunny

    Fucking ugly.

  • seouldout

    Weren’t looking in the cockpit either. Cuz in there are these things called gauges that provide data like altitude and speed.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    A 19 year old university student replacement worker gets blamed for first death in KORAIL strike.

    Passenger killed in railway workers’ strike

    The death of an 84-year-old subway passenger Sunday evening is being blamed on a 19-year-old transportation student brought in to work the doors of the train as a substitute for striking rail workers.

    According to police and the Korea Railroad Corp. (KORAIL), the elderly woman was hit in the head when she got stuck in the automatic doors of the train at around 9 p.m. at the Government Complex Gwacheon Station of Line 4.

    …Thousands of unionized workers have been on strike for a week in protest of the company’s decision to set up an affiliate which will run a new bullet train service separately.

    The crewmember who shut the door and failed to recognize the problem was a student at the Korea National University of Transportation, a temporary substitute hired to fill the job left vacant by striking workers.

    Police said a station security guard told them he signaled there was a problem with the doors, but the warning was either ignored or not seen.

    KORAIL confirmed that the company hired 238 students from the college to replace crewmembers who have joined the strike, but argued that the job does not require any special qualifications because they only act as assistants to the train operators.

    “The crewmember of a subway train does not require special qualifications. He is in charge of managing the doors of the train and making announcements to passengers,” the company said in a statement.

    The company also said that it was too early to say the exact cause of the accident because nothing has been confirmed and police are still investigating.

    However, the labor union blamed the company for hiring unqualified students for the jobs of crewmembers.

    “In the past, only employees who have at least five years experience are qualified to take the test to become crewmembers. The company is responsible for the accident because they hired unqualified crew,” said Choi Eun-cheol, a spokesman for the union.

    In the meantime, President Park Geun-hye expressed concern over the rail workers’ strike, saying the weeklong walkout has no justification because it came despite repeated assurances from the government that it has no intention to privatize a planned subsidiary of KORAIL.

    “It is truly regrettable that the rail workers’ union is on an illegal strike, taking the nation’s economic arteries hostage,” she said. “There is no justification at all to inflict damage on the national economy while not trusting the government’s announcement.”

  • wangkon936

    Hind sight is 20/20.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    You miss the point of Time’s Person (formerly, Man) of the Year. The purpose (beyond selling magazines) is to choose the entity “for better or for worse…has done the most to influence the events of the year.”

    Every year Time trots out its POY and reminder that its designation is not meant to be an honor. When in the past Time chose Stalin (twice), Hitler, Krushev, Ayatollah Khomeini, and their ilk, Time runs the caveat through its paces again.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    I’m glad someone wrote about the obvious: if NSA acts were unconstitutional, what laws did he break? Read the full article here: Who broke the law, Snowden or the NSA?

    (CNN) — Edward Snowden deserves amnesty and the ability to return to the United States without fear of being incarcerated for reporting crimes by people in high places in the U.S. government. Monday’s ruling by U.S. District Judge Richard J. Leon that the NSA’s widespread collection of millions of Americans’ telephone records was unconstitutional bolsters this view.

    But for some, whether to give Snowden amnesty is not an easy matter to reconcile. After all, they say, he broke laws in divulging classified information.

    Indeed, some say he is a traitor. But just as a member of the U.S. military is not required to follow an unlawful order, it is proper that an employee of the United States intelligence community — NSA, CIA, DIA and others — should report any information that concerns law-breaking by the intelligence agencies or their employees.

    An NSA official’s suggestion that amnesty for Snowden could possibly be put on the table was undoubtedly welcome news for Snowden, yet NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander rejected the suggestion.

  • RElgin

    You are so right. Time did put Dali on a cover once so maybe they got lucky.

  • Dillian

    The Harvard Bomber is a Korean.

    Eldo Kim grew up in South Korea but since Eldo is really, really smart so he got into Harvard.

    But is Harvard is so much stress so Eldo is very stressed out! Eldo is not ready for the big Harvard test!

    But Eldo is super smart so he texted the police. He teased them like the Joker! They have to find the bombs he put in the buildings before they explode! Eldo says:

    shrapnel bombs placed in science center, sever hall, emerson hall, thayer hall, 2/4. guess correctly. be quick for they will go off soon

    Can the police guess in time? Will the bombs explode spraying shrapnel all over those innocent students like when Cho Seung Hee made it rain bullets at V-tech? Or is Elmo just trying to get out taking his 9am final exam?

    It’s the last one! Elmo just don’t wanna take his test! But don’t worry he’s a really smart guy at Harvard he’s not gonna get caught. He used TOR and Guerrilla mail to make sure no one knew it was him! But he forgot that using his Harvard wifi to access TOR might ahh give someone a clue uhh that ahhh…

    FBI showed up at his dorm-room the evening of the bomb threat, arrested him and then he confessed to everything.

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/404259-eldo-kim-harvard-student-charged-in-bomb-scare-hoax/
    http://cbsboston.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/kimeldoharvard.pdf

  • pawikirogii

    another pissed off little expat. go figure. psst, the school shooter was white. oohhhhhh, ahhhhhhh, ohhhhh….lol.

  • pawikirogii

    oh, just a question, what role do you think korean culture played in this prank? anon-jo? seoldout? ryuchsook?

  • brier

    A prank, Paw? Crime, me boy. A serious, he is f*ed for life (in the States) crime.

  • pawikirogii

    what role did korean culture play in this prank? anon-jo? seoldout?

  • Dillian

    what role do you think korean culture played in this prank?

    Umm… thinking crimes are harmless pranks?

  • pawikirogii

    can he claim afluenza if he ain’t blond and blue?

  • brier

    You answered your own question by stating prank. “Please understand my unique….” …. You get the idea, right?

  • Dillian

    Yeah, I’m jealous I’m not smart enough to go to the Harvard and outsmart the FBI like the Joker.

  • aligner

    How about the propensity to use dubious methods to achieve academically despite most ethical and moral considerations? The recent SAT scandal is a case in point.

  • pawikirogii

    that wound feel betta now? what role did korean culture play in this prank? anon-jo? seouldout?

  • aligner

    개똥 철학

  • Dillian

    Will bomb threat for good grades! Harvard bitches, whatever it takes!!!

  • pawikirogii

    seriously, is there a series of incidents like this involving koreans? i don’t think there is. i don’t believe korean culture has anything to do with that young man’s behavior. the fact that you do exposes you for the bigot that you are.
    but hey, i’m sure we’ll see a hundred plus thread on this subject filled with comments from people just like you! ya getting a woody yet?

  • pawikirogii

    did i spur you to show off your wife’s korean skills?

  • aligner

    개망신

  • Dillian

    Partisan taunting. LOL.

  • aligner

    개가 웃을 일이다

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Pawi, you still don’t get it, and I doubt that you have the intellectual capacity to overcome your knee-jerk, angry gyopo caricature response.

    First, you broke one of the MH rules by calling me out on a thread where I had yet to appear.

    Second, you misunderstood and consequently misstated my position by implication. When I read about this story, I hadn’t even considered “Korean culture” and the part it played in motivating this individual. I did wonder, however, how Korean institutions (i.e., the various forms of media) would present this story. The institutional response is the embodiment of Korean culture in such stories.

    Third, given the prompt to think about it, I think that Eldo Kim acted against Korean culture.

    Finally, because I don’t toe the Korean nationalists’ line in all Korean related issues does not mean that I’m anti-Korea; that is, by other than Korean standards. …and that’s the overarching problem that I have with Korean culture.

  • redwhitedude

    He isn’t a bomber. He can kiss his future good bye at Harvard. He could get expelled from Harvard for this. Why bother making a big fuss over the fact he is Korean. Anybody could have pulled this prank. Really stupid prank. He could just taking an F for the final now look at the mess he got himself into an he is going to do a lot of explaining to any future employer.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Not in Korea, he won’t.

  • redwhitedude

    But he isn’t in Korea. Also I’m not sure if he’ll end up going to Korea.

  • brier

    Has Eldo gained a U.S passport yet? He is from Seoul. After a few years in jail they will deport the scumbag.

  • RElgin

    There are actually nutcases that comment on the NYTimes that Snowden is a traitor. Bloody idiots and boot lickers!

  • Anonymous_Joe

    redwhitedude: “He could get expelled from Harvard for this. Why bother making a big fuss over the fact he is Korean. Anybody could have pulled this prank. Really stupid prank.

    1) He WILL get expelled from Harvard.

    2) None of the articles in American media (NYT, Harvard Crimson, etc.) made a big fuss over the fact that he is Korean. Only one I read mentioned that he was born in Seoul, and I had to dig to find it.

    3) Short-sheeting a bed, saran wrap over the toilet, and unscrewing the top of a salt shaker are pranks; this is a felony.

  • Dillian

    Speaking of Eldo’s defense, this columnist says we should “Get ready for a sad victim’s tale”.
    http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/howie_carr/2013/12/carr_get_ready_for_sad_victims_tale

    Is that right Pawi? Should we feel sorry for this poor Korean guy who pulled this silly prank?

  • Dillian

    Allison Burroughs is Eldo’s new lawyer. She also represented Dzokhar A. Tsarnaev the Boston bomber, so she knows about poor mixed-up students who get involved with explosives.

    Allison says:

    “His father is deceased, his mother lives in Korea, he has a sister who lives in this area, but he is a kid way more on his own than most Harvard sophomores typically are,” Burroughs said. “I don’t mean running wild. I mean self-reliant.”

    Kim slipped out the courthouse’s back exit, refusing to answer questions.

    “He’s tired. He’s upset,” Burroughs said. “He’s probably looking forward to a decent meal tonight. He’s a young kid who had a very long and difficult day today.”

    http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/12/suspect_in_bomb_hoax_would_love_to_go_back

  • brier

    He IS a U.S citizen. He is shit out of luck in the states. I wonder if he will crawl back up on local shores and reclaim he is Korean passport? He has to, for he sure as hell won’t be teaching toeic with his criminal record from the states.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Sure, he can teach in Korea. He has an F4 visa. He goes back to Korea, graduates from a unigwan, puts Harvard on his resume, uses his Korean name, and voila violla.

    He’s fortunate that F4 visas don’t commit federal felonies like calling in bomb threats, so no need for background checks.

  • gbnhj

    Exactly. This moron could easily return without so much as a criminal record check (or even STD check, for that matter), and the government would allow him access. Pretty fucked up policy, that.

  • redwhitedude

    Do you know for sure if he is an international student?

  • redwhitedude

    2. People here are making a big fuss over the fact that he is korean.
    3. This is a prank that is a felony. Kids (high school and junior high) pull fire alarms as prank. A prank that is a felony.

  • Mike Morgan

    Snowden AND the NSA both. ;-)
    Regardless of his motivation, Snowden broke a law that has _not yet_ been ruled unconstitutional AND during war time he has given aid and comfort to our enemies. The NSA are collecting information illegally on such a vast scale that to compare them with the North Korean Secret Police is almost valid.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    2) People here are making a fuss over the fact that no fuss is made because he’s Korean in the American press, which is good and expected, and in the Korean press, which is bad and expected.

    3) In your argument by bad analogy, Eldo Kim called in the bomb threat to postpone a final not as a prank. Kids in HS and junior high are kids, Kim is an adult. Pulling a fire alarm might be a felony in some local US jurisdictions, but bomb threats are federal felonies in all the US. The difference in their severity gets reflected by the maximum and likely sentences.

    Other than all that, your analogy works well.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    A U.S. district judge did rule the NSA data collection unconstitutional. The aid and comfort charge will get tossed. Regardless, I wouldn’t want to have that enchilada haning over my head

    I suppose “almost valid” is still “not valid”, but I for one don’t fear (though I don’t like or think that it’s constitutional) the NSA; DPRK Secret Police scare the shit out of me even south of the 38th.

  • redwhitedude

    His intention was not a prank but the action is no different than somebody making a call as a prank. Either way this was no joke because as you said he is an adult and his intention is different than somebody who pulls an alarm just for the hell of it.

  • redwhitedude

    A coup? He must be ranting or something. That would be a giant leap backwards for Korea. But maybe things were simpler when in the days of dictators. The problem is NK, nobody has figured out how to get NK to cooperate fully.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    He will be unemployable in the US, especially with a felony. He will come to Korea, fake his CV and he will get a good job because he went to Harvard.

  • redwhitedude

    And a few years after that news will pick up about faked degrees. Same old thing. Eventually people will get fed up with this nonsense.

  • redwhitedude

    Unless he is employed by his parents assuming they have a business or he just wants to flip burgers.

  • hoju_saram

    Another Korean guy dies in Brisbane :(

    This time it was another Korean national accused of murder.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/man-charged-with-murder-of-korean-man-20131220-2zoi8.html