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Open Thread: Dec 7, 2013

Have a good weekend, folks.

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  • dlbarch

    Tora! Tora! Tora!

    DLB

  • Anonymous_Joe

    First strike.

  • dlbarch

    Cheers from an ex-frat boy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

    DLB

  • ryuNchoosk

    S. Korea got the easiest FIFA 2014 draw in Group H(Algeria, Belgium, Russia). After the Red Devils play Russia in Cuiaba on Fri. June 6th at 6:00 p.m. Brazil time, they travel 1332 miles to Porto Alegre in a game vs. Algeria on June 22nd at 1:00 p.m. From there they travel 710 miles to Sao Paulo vs. Belgium on Thurs. June 26th at 7:00 p.m. S. Korea travels just over 2,000 miles while USA in Group G(Germany, Ghana, Portugal) travels about 3,440 miles.
    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/standings/group=255947/index.html

  • que337
  • seouldout

    Something seems amiss.

  • bballi

    while i agree the group is soft, Russia and Belgium are still favoured over SK by a fair share. the travel time shouldnt affect anyone. they have plenty of time between games.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    BC, here’s an early Christmas present. Feel free to fulminate.

    Obama lived with Kenyan uncle prior to law school, White House says

    (CNN) – The White House clarified Thursday that President Barack Obama did live with his Kenyan uncle in Cambridge, Massachusetts for a “brief period of time” before attending Harvard Law School in the 1980s after previously saying there was no record of the two ever meeting.

    The clarification comes amid GOP criticism over the issue of Obama’s honesty and trustworthiness, two personal traits the president has taken a hit on in recent polls.

    Onyango Okech Obama, President Obama’s uncle, was granted permission Tuesday by a federal immigration judge to stay in the United States, where he has lived illegally for the past five decades. In his testimony before the judge, Obama’s uncle mentioned that then-student Obama had stayed with him for three weeks after he was accepted into law school.

    The White House was asked about their relationship in 2011 at which time the administration said there was no record of the President and Onyango Okech Obama having ever met. Carney retracted that information Thursday saying that the President himself had never been consulted about their relationship.

    “Back when this arose, folks looked at the record, including the President’s book, and there was no evidence that they had met. And that was what was conveyed. Nobody spoke to the President,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters.

    “When Omar Obama said the other day and there were reports that he had said the other day that President Obama, back when he was a law school student, had stayed with him in Cambridge, I thought it was the right thing to do to go ask him.”

    Carney’s good.

  • hoju_saram

    Yeah, they scored a great group, was pretty happy with that. The socceroos weren’t so lucky, but didn’t fare too badly either.

  • hoju_saram

    So K-Pop seems to be getting bigger and bigger down here in Oz. Interesting article:

    http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/australian-idols-of-the-kpop-world-20131205-2yrie.html

  • redwhitedude

    It is still a tough group for SK. Even teams that rank in the middle among European teams cause problems to SK. South Korea needs to do better job developing talent.

  • redwhitedude

    Odd that japan produced more chemicals during the vietnam war than in WWII when the militarists were running the show. They are going to outfascist the fascist now.

  • redwhitedude

    Kpop needs to reinvent itself come up with something different. It needs to evolve into something that doesn’t come across like assembly line music.

  • provIdence

    Source pls.

  • ryuNchoosk

    Pentagon or NORAD’s Tracker militarizing Santa Claus/Christmas gets ‘Operational Feel’ Complete with F-18 Fighter Escort and child advocacy groups aren’t too thrilled. The U.S. military doesn’t own Santa. But will Santa use drones to deliver toys and will he enter Chinese airspace? Video
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-norads-santa-claus-tracker-gets-operational-feel-complete-with-f-18-fighter-escort/

  • que337

    Dear Japan, stop disseminating radioactive waste to Asian countries.

    http://ban.org/action/070423_japan_petition/images/cyberpetition.jpg

    Japan’s insistence on imposing preferential tariff treatment on toxic wastes, and other globally banned substances and materials in the
    various Economic Partnership Agreements that Japan has entered into with
    Singapore, Malaysia, the Philippines and Thailand. This has the effect
    of violating Japan’s obligations under the Basel Convention, to which it
    is a party to, and several multilateral environmental agreements
    (MEAs).

    (more read)

  • redwhitedude

    Now about that idea about amazon using drones for delivery…

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Yesterday was December 7, the 72nd anniversary of Japan’s bombing Pearl Harbor.

    RANT ALERT: I had a European former colleague over who shares a not uncommon opinion among Canadians and Europeans whom I have met in Korea that the U.S. provoked Japan and Americans wanted the war. They also seem to effortlessly slide into 9/11 conspiracies. To all who hold and espouse such unsupportable views, you sound like wingnuts.

    …and no, I don’t need to look into these things further, although I once again did. Yes, I’ve looked into Building 9, which everyone else called Building 7. NIST and Popular Mechanics wrote definitive pieces debunking such myths. Despite your impressive credentials of armchair reading at best second hand material from third rate bloggers on the interwebs, not a single credible source, which I generously define as a professor of physics or engineering at any university (let alone anyone who has submitted a peer reviewed paper), supports any of the conspiracy myths.

    Since the last time I checked into the 9/11 conspiracies, the records show that your views isolate you even more from respectable company. Measure such luminaries such as Rosie O’Donnell (“first time in history fire has ever melted steel“) and Charlie Sheen (’nuff said) against all the recognized experts who have published papers on the buildings’ collapses.

    I understand that you need to suspend your disbelief to uphold your world view. When you think America, you think one word: Military-Industrial-Complex. Americans are sheeple who despite their implementation of the internet and a piranha press corp are not privy to the information that you have half-way round the world because of yet another conspiracy to keep such from Americans living in America.

    …and getting back to Pearl Harbor and WWII, Japan bombed it, and Germany made the disastrous blunder of declaring war on the U.S. That’s how the bad U.S. itched for a fight against the Empire of Japan, the rapists of Nanjing and the Asian Pacific, and the F@cking Nazis.

    …Oh, you mean that’s how the handful of oligarchs in the military-industrial-complex orchestrated Japan and Germany to get the U.S. into WW II. Why didn’t you just mention military-industrial-complex to begin with?

  • Sinister

    I think S Korea has a fairly easy group, it could have been much worse for them. When it comes down to it even qualifying for the WC is quite hard. Now England is a different matter, that is a bloody tough group with Italy, Uruguay and Costa Rica to defeat. The US has quite a tough group too.

  • ryuNchoosk

    What is it, the S. Korean flag isn’t shown? Is it because PGH didn’t donate as much as the other countries or not before them? Let me guess…not as much AND not before!

  • bumfromkorea

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/11/13/uk-philippines-typhoon-aid-factbox-idUKBRE9AC0BP20131113

    The hurricane made landfall on November 7th. A casual web search yields a November 13th article showing this:
    “SOUTH KOREA: aid worth $5 million and a 40-member
    disaster relief team. Korea Red Cross giving $100,000 and starting a
    nationwide donation campaign aiming for 10 billion won ($9.32 million).”

    But don’t let the facts get in your way. Why ruin the fun with reality? What’s really important is that you get your daily fill of venting your frustrations.

  • bumfromkorea

    I agree. I’m having trouble picturing South Korea beating Russia or Belgium… well, maybe Belgium.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    After OP posed his rhetorical question, I also wondered why ROK’s flag got omitted from a conceptually wonderful poster.

    Bum is correct in that ROK’s aid is in line with other countries’. Trying to give purpose to what might be explained as simply an omission, I conjectured that the PI might have snubbed over the Kopinos and the less than stellar reputations of Koreans in the Philippines.

    I really don’t know and might be trying to find reason where there is none.

  • bumfromkorea

    As I understand it, the artist was so overwhelmed by the international support that he or she immediately made the artwork (like days from the disaster). Apparently, the korean netizens got pissy at the omission – which is an interesting claim, because I found out about the “controversy” from an english website dealing with all things… Japanese.

  • Howard

    It’s not just people like Rosie O’Donnell and Charlie Sheen.

    David Lynch, who’s a respected filmmaker, is a 9/11 Truther:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhYYN7QhcKs

    So was the late Lynn Margulis, who was a renowned scientist:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0fkDmi78Og

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Neither Lynch (filmmaker) is nor Margulis (biologist) was a practicing physicist or engineer.

    I like Lynch’s movies and Twin Peaks, but they had wingnut (in a good way) aspects to them that were integral parts of his film making.. I dismiss him as out of his milieu and spouting off where he absolutely has a right to but probably shouldn’t. Margulis, also out of her milieu, became wingnut later in life with her AIDS/HIV theory, published about the time of her Trutherism.

    I don’t see anyone publishing peer reviewed papers and no Truthers addressing the problems ala Popular Mechanics or NIST.

  • Howard

    Well if your point is that only authorities approved by you in venues approved by you should express opinions on things, and that everyone else is a “wingnut”, why even bring it up? There’s no point having any dialogue then.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    No, I am of the opinion that if you are going to cite an opinion based on authority, then the person should have authority in that field. I don’t go seeking advice from my highly competent auto mechanic for my toothache.

    Again, where are the physicists and structural engineers of standing on this issue?

    Howard: “Well if your point is that only authorities approved by you in venues approved by you should express opinions on things…”

    I wrote that “I dismiss him (Lynch) as out of his milieu and spouting off where he absolutely has a right to but probably shouldn’t.” I just don’t think that he should be cited as an expert one should refer to in this argument.

  • seouldout

    Korea’s donation was generous and it was amongst the first to have a team on the ground – the Yanks were the first. The Chinese, who were criticised the world over for donating little and arriving late, and yet we see the PRC’s flag on the poster.

  • seouldout

    True the Koreans aren’t well liked in the Philippines.

    But Beijing, and Taipei to a lesser extent, is very much more disliked in the Philippines mostly due to the SCS territorial dispute and Chinese fishermen’s poaching.

  • Juniper

    Good piece on how Westerners are just as shitty as Koreans when it comes to rejecting creativity and striving for mediocrity:
    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/12/creativity_is_rejected_teachers_and_bosses_don_t_value_out_of_the_box_thinking.html?google_editors_picks=true

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Alea iacta est:

    South Korea expands air defense zone in reaction to China

    (CNN) — In a move that is certain to anger China, South Korea has expanded its air defense zone to include an area claimed by both countries.

    …China didn’t immediately respond to the South Korean move.

    But a spokeswoman for the State Department said Seoul had consulted with the United States ahead of time.

    “We appreciate the ROK’s efforts to pursue this action in a responsible, deliberate fashion by prior consultations with the United States and its neighbors, including Japan and China,” spokeswoman Jen Psaki said.

  • pawikirogii

    here’s what the artist has to say about leaving korea out:

    ‘I made the artwork before South Korea, Switzerland, Saudi Arabia and
    other countries pledges their support to Philippines. I was overwhelmed
    so i did this as personal thank you poster. We are still grateful to all
    countries who have helped us in recovering our losses.

    Here is
    the updated version of my Artwork to be fair to those country who are
    not included on my Artwork especially South Korea.

    https://www.facebook.com/
    photo.php?fbid=10202006943687507&set=a.1103655963951.2016462.1603302267&type=1&theater

    seouldout and anon joe, eat sheit and die! sorry to deflate y’all.

  • pawikirogii

    here’s the link to the articel in which the artist commented:

    http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/11/16/oops-someone-forgot-south-koreas-flag-on-this-thank-you-poster-from-the-philippines/

    seoulout, need some viagra?

  • pawikirogii

    here’s the revised poster from the artist’s facebook page. seouldout, put your foot in your mouth, eh? why not break a korean guy’s camera? you’ll feel betta!

  • biscuit

    And there we have it, Baeksu’s Law evoked in under 10 posts, and from a serial offender, too.

  • biscuit

    And how was Korea’s conduct during that conflict, eh?

  • Juniper

    Dear Q, stop disseminating waste on the Marmot’s Hole.

  • bumfromkorea

    The laughable terminology aside, I’m pretty sure you’re having problems properly understanding what others are actually saying.

    And from a serial offender, too.

  • biscuit

    You’re right, I am having problems; must be something to do with the Japanese.

  • seouldout

    Don’t worry you k-pop lovin’ noggin, m8. Someone somewhere else outside of Korea will invent the next big thing and k-pop and will live another day.

  • seouldout

    But Korea was quite early to the party. Much earlier than KSA, for instance.

  • seouldout

    In the middle of the palm. The artist knows the Koreans quite well.

  • bumfromkorea

    Keep digging, biscuit. You wouldn’t be the first one.

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    I take it you’re not referring to the failure to capitalize the initial f in “filipino”.

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Capitalized the f in “Filipino,” too.

    A good copy editor is worth his weight in gold.

  • Howard

    I wasn’t citing authorities. I was citing people’s thoughts, opinions on something. Not their authority, standing, power, etc.

    Again, if your point is that only authorities approved by you in venues approved by you should express opinions on things, and that everyone else unapproved by you is a “wingnut” i.e. beyond the pale, why even bring it up? There’s no point having any dialogue with someone like you. You’re not interested in opposing views. You’re interested in authority.

  • bumfromkorea

    There was a very interesting blog article about whether Korea should market their charity works better, citing Filipino bloggers who were criticizing Korea for not helping out because they genuinely did not know that Korea was sending sizeable aid. It was weighing the national interest vs. the idea from Matthew 6:3 favoring relative low profile aid. Thoughts?

  • ef525252

    die painfully thx.

  • fe525252

    die painfully fucktard

  • fe525252

    hope you end up dismembered

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Hard to say. Marketing aid can come off as insensitive and cynical, but at the same time, aid is a part of foreign policy and should, ideally, boost your nation’s image. The Filipino case aside, the big problem with Korea’s ODA hasn’t been marketing—it’s been the paltry amount given:

    http://www.norrag.org/es/publications/boletin-norrag/online-version/a-brave-new-world-of-emerging-non-dac-donors-and-their-differences-from-traditional-donors/detail/south-korea-the-newest-dac-donor-and-its-challenges.html

  • redwhitedude

    Considering SK has trouble with Switzerland it shouldn’t be hard to see that. I think the KFA needs to get more serious about improving the game in Korea and set long term goals to develop talent.

  • redwhitedude

    Not as bad as Japan’s conduct in WWII which is systemically endorsed use of ‘comfort women’. Sure there were atrocities in vietnam but they were more isolated cases rather than higher ups giving their seal of approval for it.

  • redwhitedude

    Well if that were to happen I wouldn’t be surprised if it came from outside of Korea given how people are brought up in Korea.

  • felddog13

    Do you have any idea how science works? How scientists do their jobs? Actually there ARE accepted venues (a great many of them) were scientists publish findings and experiment results, test hypotheses, etc. Standards are rigorous, because, duh.

  • bumfromkorea

    Incidentally, the very same logic employed by people who deny evolution and citing (of all people) structural engineers and material science experts on the subject as proof. When confronted by the fact that a sophomore biology major in a crap state university knows more about evolution than their experts, they respond the same way you do.

  • bumfromkorea

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVCzdpagXOQ

    I’m just saying, by the time this girl is allowed to release “Sunday”, I’m going to be convinced that maybe there is something K-pop can contribute to the western music scene.

  • bumfromkorea

    So, I have a question. Why is all of Scott Burgeson’s comments erased, his account deleted, and replaced with “This comment has been removed by the Supreme Minjok Military Sanitation Commission.”?

  • bumfromkorea

    It might be a bit insufferable, but if there is a way to direct Korea’s nationalism towards ODA and other foreign aid/charity, I think that would be incredible effective. Maybe have the newspapers run articles about how Korea is nth in providing aid?

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    I count 23 flags (could be wrong). With 190+ countries in the world, surely some aid-giving countries are missing. Why does Korea take it so personally?

  • MikeinGyeonggi

    A country shouldn’t have to market its foreign aid – it should be apparent based on the aid given. If Korea wants to increase its national image, it should simply give more. Though one of Korea’s great accomplishments is how well it talks about its own accomplishments, so maybe it’ll just stick to what it knows.

  • http://www.eslwriting.org/ eslwriter

    To reinvent itself suggests some sort of sentient element, a capacity for – at a minimum – creative thought. The Kpop industry has no more capacity for creativity than a sugary coated kernel of popcorn in a box of Cracker Jacks. And at least with cracker jacks we get a cool surprise.

  • Koreandumbdumb

    This is now. But when shooting starts, the US will blame Korea for heightening tensions in the region by expanding ADZ. Remember LA riot? The US media tried hard to put it on KoreanAmericans. The same here. Korea will take the whole blame. Maybe labelled as a troublemaker by international community.

  • que337

    Dear Juniper, if you are interested in “shitty creativity”, here would fit into your flavor:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/16/scientist-poop-burger-video_n_878210.html

  • dlbarch

    Some of MH’s motorcycle-riding North Korea watchers (all three of us) might get kick out of this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNVCdL908ko

    It’s not exactly Ewan and Charley, but it’s not bad.

    DLB

  • ryuNchoosk

    I don’t know, but it’s too bad if his comments have disappeared since I think they were insightful, more so than many others anyway.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Did he make some enemies?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    I don’t think that is the case.

    If it were a matter of making some enemies, all of your comments would be erased, and your account deleted and replaced with “This comment has been removed by the Supreme Minjok Military Sanitation Commission.”

  • Arghaeri

    It is a perfectly reasonable theory that America influenced the Japanese action, based on known historical data, but hey don’t let history get in the way of jingoism, just fight it with logical debate such as totally unrelated conspiracy theories from events 60 years later.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Arghaeri: “It is a perfectly reasonable theory that America influenced the Japanese action, based on known historical data, but hey don’t let history get in the way of jingoism, just fight it with logical debate such as totally unrelated conspiracy theories from events 60 years later.”

    First, I didn’t jump to 9/11; he did as another example of the big, bad, U.S. government manipulating the American sheeple into a previously unwanted military action.

    Second, sure, America influenced the Japanese action. The U.S. was the sleeping 800 lb. gorilla, and by mid-1941 the inevitable dawned on the Land o’ the Rising Sun. The U.S., however, already had pretext if it had wanted it.

    Regardless, what’s your argument “based on known historical data”?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Time has named Pope Francis its person of the year.

    Following him in the top five were NSA leaker Edward Snowden, gay rights activist Edith Windsor, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas.

    The top 10 also included Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, singer Miley Cyrus, President Barack Obama, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of Health and Human Services.

  • Arghaeri

    Yesterday was December 7, the 72nd anniversary of Japan’s bombing Pearl Harbor.

    RANT ALERT: I had a European former colleague over who shares a not uncommon opinion among Canadians and Europeans whom I have met in Korea that the U.S. provoked Japan and Americans wanted the war. They also seem to effortlessly slide into 9/11 conspiracies. To all who hold and espouse such unsupportable views, you sound like wingnuts.

    This wasn’t you?

    And since you agree with me, then you presumably know the basis. Not clear why I have to teach you your own history. You’re perfectly capable of doing the research yourself, and your the one who should be supporting your remarks.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Arghaeri: “And since you agree with me, then you presumably know the basis.”

    Yes, the U.S., by its existence, “influenced the Japanese action.” If, as I inferred by that statement, your claim is that the U.S. provoked to some degree Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor, then you need to put up some “research yourself” “based on known historical data.”

    BTW, my European former colleague made the same “you need to look into these things further” about my country’s history. As I told him, I have, and since, I have done so again.

    What I didn’t tell, him (though I thought to do so) to his face, I have no problem posting on a message board: it’s weak to claim historicity and do your own research, when you’re the one making the claim counter to established history, to wit: December 7, 1941… the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Ahh, so there is the threat….

  • Koreandumbdumb

    Oh, Oh..Adjussis at Yale university. Fighting frat boys to clear PGH’s name.

    http://news.khan.co.kr/kh_news/khan_art_view.html?artid=201312120907421&code=940100&nv=stand

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Here’s the latest on the Samsung – Apple front:

    South Korea Court: Apple Didn’t Violate Samsung Patents

    (SEOUL, South Korea) — A Seoul Central District Court judge ruled Thursday that Apple did not violate Samsung’s intellectual property rights. The technology in two of Samsung’s patents could easily be independently developed by others, Judge Shim Woo-yong said, making it unlikely they were copied. He said one patent was not used in the iPad.

    I found the following interesting:

    “As Apple has continued to infringe our patented mobile technologies, we will continue to take the measures necessary to protect our intellectual property rights,” it said in a statement.

    Given Korea’s defamation laws, how does Samsung continue to evade that gung-ho prosecutor who went ahead against Michael Breen despite Samsung’s chairman withdrawing his complaint after international ridicule?

  • ryuNchoosk

    Today Samsux lost case on home turf/Seoul vs. Apple
    http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/business/2013/12/12/12/0501000000AEN20131212002452320F.html
    In March of last year, Samsung filed a lawsuit against Apple
    claiming that Apple’s devices, such as the iPhone 4S, copied three of
    its patents, including one related to text message display technology.
    Samsung claimed 100 million won (US$94,840) in damages.

    The court said two of three patented technologies by Samsung did not show
    technical “advancement” and the other one was not adopted by Apple.

  • ryuNchoosk

    Banking in S. Korea with a foreign bank? Well then your name and phone number is now transparent or might be since there was a leak of 130 thousand customers at Citi Bank and Standard Chartered. Who said S. Korea needed more transparency? With this, Samsux losing, the Asiana hearing, and the Korean currency strengthening(bad for Chaebol), it’s been a tough week for S. Korea, what else can go wrong?
    http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/12/12/2013121201475.html

  • Arghaeri

    1) Got it, you agreed without knowing the basis; and
    2) and without knowing the basis of these views you manage to conclude they are unsupportable. (the basis being rather more than merely the US existence)
    3) you also conclude without even enquiring as to the basis of such views that you have no responsibility for supporting your claim that they are unsupportable and those holding them are wingnuts.
    4) further you throw in the ad hominen of 9/11 as if it can have any bearing on whether such views in relation to WWII are supportable.
    5) best of all you claim you don’t need to look into things any further, thereby demonstrating your complete partisanship when you clearly even haven’t bothered to find out the basis of such views before dismissing same.
    6) you claim to have looked into such things, yet cannot even discover the basis of such views that can be found in thirty seconds on google,
    7) and you wonder why people from other countries shrug their shoulders and say please look at your own history rather than expecting everyone else to explain it to you cos you’re too lazy and jingoistic.

  • Arghaeri

    You remind me of your fellow wing it who made the claim that British attacks on the Phillipines were more harmful than US interference.

    Yes seriously, 100 people dead in an isolated attack on Spanish Manila was more harmful than the US taking over a country that had declared independence from Spain and the consequent hundreds of thousands of deaths that followed.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    You are putting a whole lot of energy into saying absolutely nothing. Speak in specifics. Let me address points 5 and 6 specifically because they are concrete examples of how you are not getting it.

    5) “best of all you claim you don’t need to look into things any further, thereby demonstrating your complete partisanship…” NO, best of all, I specifically wrote that I researched the matter again. I wrote that he said that he would not research the matter further (I didn’t tell him to), that I would (I told him that); he didn’t want to see any of the findings (he told me so, I didn’t offer).

    6) I did look into the basis of such views. They are not based on fact or science.

    Bonus:
    7) I don’t why people shrug from other countries shrug their collective shoulders. They fit nicely into types, the majority into those who want the U.S. to do foreign policy in their own interests.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    In replying to yourself, and writing “you” did you mean that you remind yourself of such? Yes, that’s cheap, I know.

    Do you know how cheap it sounds to post that I remind you of someone in a specific incident that you came up with (the only specific example you’ve given in this subthread) that I had nothing to do with?

    You need to take your own advise and write the “the basis of such views that can be found in thirty seconds on google” rather than imputing onto me characteristics from someone whom you know.

  • ryuNchoosk

    Korean teacher(32) sexually assaults 4 female “blind” students for years and school officials cover it up, don’t trust the school nurse to help either.
    http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/Article.aspx?aid=2981992
    “The ministry also asked the Busan Office of Education to discipline seven school administrators and five officials from the education office for colluding to cover up the case after the victims reported the incident.
    Among the seven administrators at the school are a former principal, a vice principal and a school nurse.”

  • ryuNchoosk

    Because Japan is a more generous country. If you can’t win the generosity of Japan then maybe there is something wrong in the way you’re going about things?

  • redwhitedude

    Having just read a book about Japan I’d say that it was the British and the US who were originally at fault of misreading the intentions of Japan back in the early 1900s. Once they let Japan have Korea then they went charging into Manchuria and that’s where the trouble began. So yea, it is the fault of Britain and US for ‘encouraging’ Japan back in the early 1900s.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    redwhitedude: “….I’d say that it was the British and the US who were originally at fault of misreading the intentions of Japan back in the early 1900s. Once they let Japan have Korea then they went charging into Manchuria and that’s where the trouble began. So yea, it is the fault of Britain and US for ‘encouraging’ Japan back in the early 1900s.”

    So, because Britain and the US did not militarily intervene in Korean and China, Britain and the U.S. are at fault for Korean and China, and the U.S. is at fault for the bombing of Pearl Harbor?

    Also, how did Britain and the U.S. “let Japan have Korea”?

  • Arghaeri

    1) Not cheap just stupid.
    2) You don’t know the meaning of “remind”, no wonder you struggle.
    Nothing, cheap in it at all, simple fact and observation, of a person in denial who makes stupid arguments about his own history without even bothering to study the thing he is arguing about.
    3) I think I made it perfectly clear, that you are the one who made claims that people are wing nuts without any basis or knowledge of the basis of their belief. So you are the one who needs to back up your claim.

    If you have attention deficit order and are incapable of even 30 seconds research on your own then See a good doctor.

  • redwhitedude

    Look up the Anglo-Japanese alliance of 1902 and the Taft-Katsuya agreement. Both agreement pretty much sealed the fate of Korea once Russia was defeated in 1905. The Japanese used Korea as a stepping stone to get into China and when they did that the British and the US got suspicious of Japanese intent. Look up the 21 demands that the Japanese put on China around 1916 and the reaction of the british and US. Also look at the Mukden incident of 1931 and how the lack of opposition from the US and Britain at the time emboldened the militarist faction. Once Japan got involved in China proper the US placed an embargo on japan in 1940. Who let this thing slide this far? Who didn’t raise a bleep about Japanese actions for a good 20-25 years? Once it got this far military action was pretty much necessary. Had Britain and US given a stern clear answer opposing Japanese actions early on then Pearl harbor and all that blood letting in WWII could have been avoided. The problem was that Britain allied to Japan to keep an eye on Russia but did not realize the Japanese intentions of using Korea to go into China. The US also handed Korea without realizing Japanese intentions as well. In fact even around WWI or right after there was some talk about japan being the hypothetical opposition to the US. This was set once Britain let the alliance expire once it realized that the alliance was not being the restraint to Japan that it was hoped.