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N. Korea moves long-range guns across from Baengnyeongdo

Oh, those crafty North Koreans—the Dong-A Ilbo, quoting military sources, reports that North Korea has deployed long-range 170mm self-propelled artillery and 240mm multiple rocket launchers to inland distracts of Jangyon and Yongyon counties, just across from Baengyeongdo and just outside of South Korean artillery range.

The 170mm guns and 240mm MRLs are usually attached to the KPA 4th Corps and based in Kangnyong, Yeonan and Chongdan, where they are tasked with hitting the Seoul and Incheon areas in the event of an emergency.

The ranges on those guns are 24—54km and 40—65km, respectively. The range for South Korea’s K-9 guns on Baengnyeongdo is 40km, while the Guryong MRLs have a range of 36km. This means if North Korea hits Baengnyeongdo with its long-range guns, Baengnyeongdo’s defenders will be unable to hit them back.

Anyway, the South Korean military does not view North Korea’s deployment of long-range guns near Baengnyeongdo to be a good sign. The ranges on those guns are much longer than the ones used to hit Yeonpyeongdo in 2010. The fact that Kim Jong-un has recently made several visits to West Sea artillery units supports analysis that North Korea may launch a provocation at Baengnyeongdo.

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  • bumfromkorea

    Yes, but what do they think the ranges of a F-15K that will be bombing those guns are?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=783315197 Shelton Bumgarner

    Ok, this is not good, but What Does It Mean? If they were to shoot off some rounds again, does anyone really believe that the South would fire back?

  • http://www.facebook.com/bobbymc Bobby McGill
  • Hamilton

    Since ROKA fired back in 2010 without being able to pinpoint the guns used in the attack and STILL took a load of flak from the Press and the court of Public opinion I would say OH F**K YEA, they are going to fire back.
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    Now, IF they can’t hit the guns that do the provocation then what it means is that they potentially will escalate with Air Craft which means they need to hit a bucket load of IAD sites, and command posts before they ever even get to the guns. The NORKs might/probably would escalate their counter attack and something that started as low scale murder turns into a major fight.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=783315197 Shelton Bumgarner

    When you say “major fight” do you mean a knock down, drag out fight that would involve the breaching of the DMZ or just hit and miss stuff to prove a point? I guess what I want to know is, are we on the cusp of a 1994 type situation where things get so bad that they tell expats to leave the country and a US fleet is stationed off the coast, or is it just more of the same BS from the North except a few people die along the way?

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Why does the ROK have artillery that cant hits its targets? One would think a country as rich as the ROK would have superior firepower than the North at the border.

  • Hamilton

    If the Norks use their longer range artillery, it forces the ROK to escalate if they want to strike the offending guns. They have plenty of capable aircraft but that takes a lot of reduction of the Nork air defense system.
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    I mean a fight that instead of a few battalions flinging 100 or so rounds back and forth includes F-16s and brigades of ROKA artillery pounding Nork IADs(Radars, ADA missiles, guns and C2 nodes) into dust so that ROKAF can actually drop bombs on the units that fired without getting shot out of the sky.
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    IF the NORKs decide not to escalate in that type of scenario it would be a miracle. They can’t really let the ROK military bend them over and rough roger them when their provocation is designed to enhance their threat credibility can they?

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Doesn’t the ROK have cruise missiles capable of striking anywhere in the North?

  • http://www.gofundme.com/1k98a8 Jakgani

    Time for people on Baengnyeongdo to take a vacation in Seoul for a month or two.

  • cm

    The real question is why doesn’t South Korea have counter battery guns that can hit those long range North Korean guns.? This is just negligence.

  • SomeguyinKorea

    Dude, South Korea has cruise missiles. They could shoot one of those up Kim Jong-eun’s butt if they wanted (it’s a large enough target).

  • SomeguyinKorea

    Mmm, didn’t you write this “Why does the ROK have artillery that cant hits its targets? One would
    think a country as rich as the ROK would have superior firepower than
    the North at the border”?

  • LaCoreen

    Cruise missiles are susceptible to interception as they are pretty much like kamikaze planes but unmanned and autonomous. I guess it doesn’t matter when your country is just a small colony of a large superpower who out of fear of displeasing another fast and upcoming superpower will allow it’s colony to take some shit. Korea is just another chess field for the super powers.

  • LaCoreen

    I highly doubt they ROKAF has the capability to punch through North Korea’s array of latest Russian AA systems. If NATO can’t provide air cover over Syria, sending poorly maintained f-16k to North Korea is suicide. Instead I think more likely to see South Korea responding asymmetrically to asymmetric attacks. Most likely “command posts” threatened by South Korea will be struck with Hyumoo class missile ordinances.

  • LaCoreen

    I’m sure they do have it but probably out of security reasons, they will not openly let the enemy see how and what they can respond with.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    and?

  • TheKorean

    The same for Japan. ㅋㅋㅋ

  • Hamilton

    Not entirely. You can’t afford to be strong everywhere, remember the target area is a group of tiny islands. North Korea has a significant geographical advantage. Also those long range guns are crap for accuracy but will be fired in mass against a stationary target. If South Korea built similar guns with similar accuracy they would be very poor in a counterbattery fight.

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    What SK really should have bought more of was the US MLRS system. It is accurate and very effective with plenty of range to spare. They have some but they really need two brigades. That would scare the crap out of the Norks.

  • Hamilton

    South Korea just recently fielded some missiles but they don’t have a lot, they are expensive and the range is extreme when firing toward KPA 4th Corps. The islands are simply too small to invest in a launch site.

  • Hamilton

    They have the capability. However it looks like all out war when you use it and if the Norks think the ROK has been pushed too far they will escalate to a full war in order to try and survive.
    The cruise missile route is interesting but very ineffective against countries like North Korea. You fire a dozen 500,000 dollar or more missiles against a concrete bunker with paper maps and fiber optic lines paid for by NMH. The Norks sweep out the staff and announce there are new promotion opportunities and try to cope with the loss of really expensive paper. They have plenty of staff, plenty more bunkers, and really don’t care about incidental losses.

  • LaCoreen

    Couldn’t it be possible for South Korea to simply respond with a UAV drone strike? This would minimize collateral damage, sends a strong message to North Korea that anyone of any rank or power in North Korea can be terminated swiftly without warning. UAV drone presence would further deter any coastline aggression. We should be doing what Israel and America does with Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan.

  • LaCoreen

    South Korea acts as human shield for Japan ㅎㅎㅎ