USFK contractor arrested for threatening Korean motorist with a knife / Osan MPs allowed to leave Korea

A Korean-American chopper mechanic working for USFK has been arrested by Pyeongtaek police after he allegedly threatened a Korean motorist with a fishing knife (HT to Charles Reeder).

According to the cops, the suspect—identified as Mr. J (48)—nearly hit the car of a one Mr. Choe (42) on the road near Oseong IC.

J stopped his car and got into an argument with Choe. Unable to control his anger, J got out of his car, took out a fishing knife from his trunk, and waved it several times at Choe through the half-open passenger-side window, curing as he did so.

Feeling threatened, Choe tried to pull away, but J gave chase, scratching Choe’s car with his knife twice.

Choe then got out of his car, picked up a rock and protested, “What’s your problem? I’m a Korean cop.” At which point J fled.

Or so it has been “confirmed,” says Yonhap, quoting mostly from the police.

Choe called the cops, and J was stopped by police 15 minutes later. The police say J did not resist arrest and confessed everything.

During the investigation, J testified that he had felt endangered when Choe’s car came at him from the opposite direction as he tried to make a U-turn on the left-turn light. Police plan to use the cars’ blackboxes and nearby CCTV footage to determine who did what and hand out fines.

A USFK contractor, J reportedly served in the US military for 16 years.

As he falls under the SOFA, he was turned over to US MPs after the arrest.

Interestingly enough, J’s family are complaining that J was treated unfairly during the investigation on account of his US citizenship.

In a phone call with Yonhap, J’s wife claimed he was being treated like a criminal because of anti-Americanism and that the cops only listened to Choe’s side of the story and didn’t ask her husband a single thing at the station.

She also said it was Choe who started the whole thing by nearly killing her husband by running the light, and that it was Choe who threatened her husband with a rock as he lie on the ground, haven fallen when Choe suddenly pulled away as J was holding the passenger seat side of Choe’s car.

It’s all so unfair, she said.

Luckily, we have some video footage of the incident, courtesy Dong-A TV.

Would love to see the entire footage to get a better idea of what happened. Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me if both sides are at fault, nor would it surprise me that after BB and the Gang, the KNP isn’t being especially courteous to USFK personnel who get arrested. Oh, and is Choe really a cop? If not, is claiming to be a cop illegal?

Then again, the cops say he admitted everything (and in the video, he does say he pulled out a knife), and it wouldn’t surprise me if J’s wife is just playing the police bigotry card.

Either way, though, can somebody explain to me why ANYONE attached to USFK would be pulling out a knife on a Korean civilian NOW? Is USFK aiming for some sort of political Darwin Award?

And in other fun USFK-related news, it has been learned that some of the seven American MPs involved in last year’s incident in which three Korean civilians were handcuffed near a US base in Pyeongtaek left Korea between late last year and recently. Prosecutors allowed the GIs to leave after getting from the US military written confirmations and guarantees that the suspects would appear for questioning whenever prosecutors asked, but it’s unlikely to make many people happy and controversy is expected.

  • SomeguyinKorea

    So, who leaked the evidence to the media?

  • creo69

    And in other news…an American was seen eating a cheeezeeburger in Itaewon (the area where people who are not Koreans are)…South Korean police reported he had fries with the burger.

    Guess what? Sheep happens when people from other countries live in yours.

  • creo69

    In the video the “real” Korean gets out of his car and chases after the other guy with a brick while signaling to him with his hand to come back…this is a case of roadrage…which occurs every day in Korea and it is only news because there is an anti American / foreigner element to it.

  • brier

    U.S citizens on government expatriate packages in Korea having issues with law? Woe is me… Hurrah Uncle Sam!

  • Robert Frog

    Both of them were stupid. One appears to have been running a red light…the other attempting to make the turn just as soon as the light his way turned green without making sure people were actually obeying the law (something anyone who has driven here should know and always do). I also found it interesting they chose to show a backdrop of a “Thai Massage” parlor while the guy was giving a phone statement about the contractor.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Nothing lower than a red light runner.

  • creo69

    I agree both stupid and equally at fault…I also like how their little shadow bad person they use to ooen the story eith is clearly caucasion…both these idiots are Asians!

  • cm

    Yeah, but the “fake” American was the first one to go after him with a hack saw and almost hacked off his face through the half opened window.

  • yangachibastardo

    LOL back i 2007 i was going through some really difficult time: i was unemployed, going through a half a million euros bankruptcy and i was also in the middle of a nasty divorce. One day i was walking downtown with my dad, feeling particularly grim. When i crossed some street (with a green light) this Mercedes sedan started pulling ahead, getting really close to my legs. Thanks God it stopped, at that point i walked around the car to the passenger seat, the window rolled down and some arrogant looking, ignorant as fuck, old guy appeared.

    He smirked at me and said “I’m sorry”. Without thinking about it twice i shot a side-kick to his face, hitting him on the side of his forehead, while hissing “pezzo di merda” at him. Some old lady in the passenger seat, i assume his wife, started screaming on top of her lungs.The guy somehow managed to gas away, while a small crowd of rather curious passerbys observed the scene.

    When we walked away, my dad started to complain feebly about my behaviour, that’s when i told him something along the lines of:” Pa’ keep your fuckin’ trap shut or you’re gonna get it good too”. We walked silently until we parted.

    Honestly it felt fuckin’ awesome, it made me feel like i was some little Frank Castle, righting all the arrogant people of this world, one brutalisation at a time

  • Cloudfive

    Yangachi, if I believed there was a god, I would pray for you. Since I do not believe…the only person I pray for is myself.

    You’re one hell of an interesting bastard though…. one of maybe three I would have drinks with from this board. Hodges is another, I like his backstory.

  • wangkon936

    Hahaha… yangchi, that is rather psychopathic behavior, but I guess everyone has their breaking point.

    Good story though.

  • Bob Bobbs

    When you first see the gyopo miguksaram in orange as he is bouncing off the back of the car, you see the ‘knife’ in his hands. It is at least 14 inches long and would easily have allowed him to stab that guy as he reached in the window. I am surprised the daehanmingukmansaesaram chased him down and can see why he armed himself: that’s certainly attempted aggravated assault. But that’s life on the road in Korea. This kind of thing happens all the time. Korea is a black hole of traffic laws.

  • warrior6

    kick ass dude!

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    the American was justified in doing so

  • Adams-awry

    You must also love puns.

  • Adams-awry

    Smells like bullshit.

  • Cloudfive

    We would go to one of those pun prohibited bars. Yangachi would probably do most of the talking anyway. I’d invite Pawi just to keep the riff-raff from wanting to join.

  • Horace Jeffery Hodges

    When I was a lad, we were so poor that I had no toys to speak of, so I had to play with words. Nevertheless, Adams-Awry need not worry since I mostly sip my beer and listen to the more talkative drinkers regale the rest of us with stories — and I agree that Yangachi would be greatly entertaining to listen to.

    If prompted, of course, I could recite one of my ‘off-color’ poems . . .

    Jeffery Hodges

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  • creo69

    And…the “real” Korean should have drove off and called the police. Instead he got out of his car…picked up a brick and signaled the other man to return…in other words he is guilty of the exact same behaviour.

  • creo69

    Kicks an old man in the face and tells his father to shut up or he will get the same…and you peope want to share a drink with this low life? There are trully some messed up people on this site.

  • DPRK Husband

    If that guy you kicked were my father, I’d find you and rip off your legs, one at a time. And I’m sure that would be an easy task.

  • Horace Jeffery Hodges

    You make a good point (two, in fact . . . or is it three?), but I read Yangachi’s stories the way I read a lot of comments on this blog — with a grain of salt.

    Jeffery Hodges

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  • Hume’s Bastard

    We need to ban knives and bricks, so that more people will buy guns, thus making the whole world safer.

  • Sinister

    Sounds like a tale of two imbeciles, neither of whom should be allowed to drive cars. I don’t understand the red light running here, it’s stupid and very dangerous and the police usually do nothing about it. After a few years in Korea I simply came to the conclusion that the police are lazy and useless. I’ve witnessed dozens of accidents in Korea caused by stupidity on the roads.

    Personally I’ve almost been ran over on several occasions. Perhaps the most memorable incident, due to the sheer stupidity of it, was a women driver who almost hit me on a country road. Why wasn’t she paying attention? She was applying make-up whilst driving! The car swerved at me and I actually had to jump out the way and ended up in a stinking ditch half full of water at the side of the road. The bitch didn’t even stop, but if she had I must admit it would have been very difficult to control my temper.

    I wouldn’t trust most korean drivers with anything more dangerous than this!

  • SomeguyinKorea

    He started moving after the other at clearly entered the intersection. Looks to me like he went on a yellow, not a red.

  • SomeguyinKorea

    Looks to me like one guy went on the yellow and the other went as soon at it turned green without looking if there was a car in the intersection.

  • Berliner

    Don’t be a rabble rouser.

  • Sinister

    No, he wasn’t. They were both behaving like cretins. Both are to blame for the incident. If drivers had a little more courtesy on the road events like this simply wouldn’t happen.

  • yangachibastardo

    So this guy was driving his car through an intersection with a red light, he did so volounteerily trying to pull his car ahead to intimidate me and other pedestrians, who had every right to pass.

    he did risk to mow down my legs, in fact he stopped at less than a yard away from my knees, in order to save something like 2 minutes of his time.

    I may not have reacted in the most civilised way but all i caused was a small bruise on his head vs the risk of fractured legs.

    If you think i’m the bad guy here, i’m afraid to tell you the only messed up thing is your logic

    DPRK: in that case you may also wanna tell pop to learn how to drive like a human being, lest you wanna end up paying quite substantial sums in insurance money to a grieving family.

    Other than that, i know one of these days i can get it good, cos well it already happened to me in the past. My legs are fairly good though, on the other hand my arms are shit: my boxing is a joke, my elbow playing kinda primitive and i don’t even have that much power, as i always benched quite mediocrely


    The guy was around his early 60’s, not 95 years old

  • yangachibastardo

    Well thanks and i’d try to keep my mouth shut and let Jeffery talk, cos he’s indeed an interesting dude. Proof be the fact that as a child when he was stuck with no toys he started playing with words: i spent 2 years of my childhood in similar circumstances and all i did was fishing at the local pond

  • hardyandtiny

    “J’s wife claimed he was being treated like a criminal because of anti-Americanism and that the cops only listened to Choe’s side of the story and didn’t ask her husband a single thing at the station.”

    Happens all the time.

    “…nor would it surprise me that after BB and the Gang, the KNP isn’t being especially courteous to USFK personnel who get arrested.”

    Are you kidding? The KNP has been treating SOFA personnel like shit for decades.

    “Either way, though, can somebody explain to me why ANYONE attached to USFK would be pulling out a knife on a Korean civilian NOW?”

    What is so special about now?

  • hardyandtiny

    are comments posting?

  • Horace Jeffery Hodges

    Actually, that part about no toys was the sort of thing that needs to be taken with a grain of salt. My four brothers and I had some toys, though not a lot.

    But we did use an outhouse, a wood stove for heating, a well for water, a washtub for baths, and a bed over a dirt floor in the basement for sleeping — though modernity came pretty quickly. For instance, we already had electric lights and an electric cook stove.

    Now, I’ve said everything and can sit back and drink my beer while I listen to others’ stories . . .

    Jeffery Hodges

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  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Red light runners deserve what they get

  • The Real Truth

    Koreans more often than not, blow through the red light when making a right turn. I see it every day. I’ve also fought with a klown motorist over this, as he almost hit my car with his black ajeossi wagon. Careless, stupid, wreckless drivers. If every foreigner carried a fishing knife in their car, the foreign murder rate would skyrocket.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    When you run a red light you put the life of the other motorists at risk. Its one thing to run a red light at 3 am, though then you still come to a stop or a crawl, make well sure no one is coming and proceed if its safe to do so. But this was not like that, this idiot ajossi ran a red light at what seemed like peak traffic hours, and by doping so showed contempt for the others motorists, one of whom was this American who had the right to feel as if the ajossi attempted deadly assault on him. For me, the American would have been more than justified to assault that fucking ajossi, and showed incredible self restraint by not touching him. What he should have done is went back, taken that rock from the fat old ajossi and beat the shit out of his car with it, thereby disabling a deadly weapon in the possession of a dangerous individual.

  • Osan Bob

    Slow start to the month or is the annual let’s bash GIs in Korea time of the year? After sifting through the last week of stuff on “thuggish” and “asshat” GIs, I am starting to see that, “I’m a better waeguk than you because I am not in the military attitude” Funny thing is I have seen all kinds of dodgy foreigners in Korea not affliated with the Military at all. Yet if you wear a uniform, English teachers and the like feel the need to point out that because they have a college degree, they are somehow a step above you. BTW These same individuals would jump at the chance to get signed on base for a trip to the food court/BX/ or commisary even after going out of their way to bash our troops.
    I am not going to say USFK is a perfect place and I am not going to say we have 100% stellar indiviuals over here, but at the end of the day whether you wear combats or a hanbok, in the eyes of Korea you’re still a waeguk.

  • Horace Jeffery Hodges

    You need more familiarity with the Marmot’s Hole if you’ve got the impression it’s committed to bashing GIs and extolling English teachers.

    Jeffery Hodges

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  • bumfromkorea

    How many English teachers *do* we have at Marmot’s Hole that’s a regular? I thought all we had were gyopos and shit-tons of lawyers here.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Can’t gyopos be English teachers?

  • Robert Koehler

    Slow start to the month or is the annual let’s bash GIs in Korea time of the year?

    Neither. You’ve guys have just had a stellar run as of late.

    Yet if you wear a uniform, English teachers and the like feel the need to point out that because they have a college degree, they are somehow a step above you.

    You might be right. Somehow, though, I don’t think many English teachers would accuse me of painting them in an excessively positive light:

  • Bob Bobbs

    Foot in several camps over here.

  • Dutch Boy

    How about Koreans learn how to drive and quit running lights and stopsigns. Some Koreans think that they can try to push foreignerns around. You do that in. The wrong country and you will get your ass killed or beaten up.

  • Aja Aja

    As soon as he pulls out the knife, he loses all credibility. If you need to fight someone, do so fairly, don’t pull that shit on anyone.