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Open Thread: the Yellow Dust Edition

I guess this means spring is really here.

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  • brier

    Not too dusty out there, yet. Just checking the KMA, Seoul is in at 21.5 thus far. It hasnt been this warm since October 27th!

  • Baekinje

    It is really bad out. I wouldn’t suggest exercising or walking around much. I think everyone should check the yellow sand (HWANGSA) in the air beofre going out. http://web.kma.go.kr/eng/weather/asiandust/timeseries.jsp?area=0&stnId=0&view=1
    Remember…this stuff is coming from a particularly poluted place in China, one where they used to test nuclear weapons.

  • Ladron

    This has been the coldest winter in my 8 or so years in Korea. I haven’t ridden my bike since November.

  • SomeguyinKorea

    It’s been a very warm winter where I live. Sure, we got more snow than usual, but I wore my heavy parka just half a dozen times this winter.

  • 8675309

    C’mon. Don’t exaggerate. I’m from Chicago — born and raised — and while this winter was a tad colder and snowier than most in Seoul, it hasn’t been the coldest, and if amount of snowfall and total days below freezing are a measure of anything, this winter pales in comparison to anything that I went through in Windy City during the Blizzard of ’79, ’94, ’99 and most recently, the Blizzard of 2011. (I was born during the Chicago Blizzard of 1967 if that counts for anything.)
    Oh, yeah, and I just went cycling along the Dancheon bike trail last Tuesday afternoon from Garak Market in SongPa-gu, to where the Dancheon meets the Hangang, then headed west to the Banpo Daegyo wearing nothing but cycling shorts and a light jacket. Absolutely glorious spring-like weather, so no, this winter ain’t nuthin’ but a thang.)

  • Ladron

    Coldest winter IN KOREA – not Chicago. And by “bike” I meant “Motorcycle”

  • SomeguyinKorea

    There has been a lot of dust for at least a week. As usual, the government is slow to report its arrival.

  • danjoecos
  • 8675309

    Hey, no reason to be snippy. And thanks for the “bike” clarification, as usually the type of people who use that kind of vocabulary where I’m from are under the age of 12 and are referring to their Huffy BMX, which isn’t terribly different from what you’re talking about. And I’m just sayin’ your inability to handle temperate weather reminds me of the housewife who called into the “Live with Kelly” show last fall complaining that it was “freezin’” in her part of Alabama or Georgia. When Kelly asked for further clarification by asking, “What do you define as ‘freezing’?”, the caller responded by saying, “Oh, 45 degrees or so.”, to which Kelly said, “Well that’s the indoor temperature here.” (In the caller’s defense, maybe she — as well as yourself — didn’t know that anything above zero or 32 degrees F is not considered “freezing” per se.) Maybe you hail from the South as well?

  • brier

    Check the helpful KMA site, today was the warmest since October 7th of last year.

  • yangachibastardo

    Were you hanging around the scene at the Medusa in the 80′s ?

  • Ladron

    Wow, quite an angry rant. Let me clarify some more. It doesn’t matter if I’m from Miami or Homer, Alaska, this has been the coldest winter I’ve experienced IN KOREA. I never said I couldn’t tolerate the cold, I said it was the coldest
    winter I’ve experienced IN KOREA. Thanks for the assumptions, though. And yes, a Huffy BMX is exactly the same as a motorcycle.

  • mom

    Lol

  • http://www.gofundme.com/1k98a8 Jakgani

    It is safer not to ride your bike Nov~Feb and July~August in Korea, due to the slippery road conditions.
    Motorbike riders have a 80% greater chance of having a serious accident in snowy/wet riding conditions.

    Winter in Seoul 2012 – the temperature only got down to -15 °C ( 5 °F).

    It was one year ago (winter of 2011) that the temperature in Seoul went down to -25 °C ( -13 °F).

    Winter in 2012 in Jeongok, Yeoncheon, Gyeonggi-do the temperature was -26 °C ( -14.8 °F)
    - Seoul’s winter wasn’t so bad at all.

    As for the yellow dust, 2012 was quite good – without much yellow dust compared to previous years. I am hoping this year will be the same with less yellow dust than previous years. Maybe the Norths Nuclear detonations are keeping most of the yellow dust away?

  • hoju_saram

    Thought this might interest some here:

    http://www.japancrush.com/2013/stories/teachers-who-refused-to-sing-national-anthem-face-punishment.html

    Apparently Japanese teachers who refuse to sing the controversial national anthem Kimigayo are going to be punished (stood down?)

  • awarren

    Is it just me, or did the name of the Mcdonald’s chain owner in Pennsylvania involved in that immigrant guest worker scandal, David Cheung, ring any bells. Appears to be Chinese because of the name spelling, but of course this stuff goes on in Korea all the time too – except the conditions are much worse here and there is no pretense that working in Korea is a cultural experience.

  • http://www.gofundme.com/1k98a8 Jakgani

    Their national anthem (adopted in 1999) doesn’t have many words to it…

    “May Japan’s reign last for 10,000 years, until the pebbles grow into boulders, covered with moss”.

    That’s it – not very controversial. The teachers who refuse to sing it are showing their students how to be unpatriotic to the very country that pays their salary.

  • hoju_saram

    Here’s another interesting video – a North Korean look at American poverty. It’s a good laugh.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=df8_1362850413

  • hoju_saram

    Not controversial? It served as the national anthem of the Empire of Japan from 1868 to 1945, and was re-adopted in 1999. Kimigayo is usually translated as His Majesty’s Reign.

  • hoju_saram

    Compare and contrast to Germany, where public singing or performing of songs identified with Nazi Germany is illegal and can be punished with up to 3 years of imprisonment.

  • http://kuiwon.wordpress.com/ Kuiwon

    Looks like all the advanced nations on the world stage are now considering it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/07/european-porn-ban-proposal-regulate-internet-pornography-media_n_2828633.html

  • que337

    Okay, now WBC turned into “World Boxing Classic” of Canada vs. Mexico:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/worldclassic2013/story/_/id/9035253/canada-mexico-brawl-breaks-wbc-game

  • bumfromkorea

    Pity it couldn’t have ended up like this instead.

  • bumfromkorea

    You’re talking about a government who’s still using the same military flag it did during its Imperial days. At least Germany had the decency to ban swastikas, SS, SS skull, and every other symbol that related to Nazis… to the point where even making fun of the Nazis can’t involve it. Japan? I see that shit everywhere like it doesn’t symbolize horrific militarism/imperialism, gut-wrenching gory atrocities, and general lack of humanity.

  • Fred

    Come to Jeju which seems not to be even listed here by kma !!!

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Curious. Is political speech protected in Japan? The Japanese teachers who refuse to sing the “controversial” (I’ll use your description) national anthem seem to be making a political statement.

    The problem with these monarchical, figure head or otherwise, countries is that they maintain their archaic lese majeste laws. There is or should be a difference between not singing “long live the emperor” and saying “abolish or death” to him. (I, of course, think that citizens should be able to put forth the idea of abolishment.)

    I’ve read so many conflicting accounts of Hirohito’s complicity, everything from mastermind to puppet dupe, in WWII. If he was in deed Tojo’s fool, then the lese majeste laws worked for Tojo. If not, the laws worked against the people.

  • imememememe

    LOL
    Hypocritical a-holes probably downloading porn around the clock in advance.

  • bumfromkorea

    The Great Stockpile of 2013

  • bibimbapman

    For those of you who are currently living in Korea, what are you going to do when North Korea actually attacks the South?

  • http://twitter.com/KTLit Charles Montgomery

    Die in a barrage of artillery fire, as I live in Gyungnidan, tucked neatly near the US army base at Yongsan.
    Actually, that simplifies my decision tree.

  • http://kuiwon.wordpress.com/ Kuiwon

    http://takimag.com/article/tackling_asian_privilege_gavin_mcinnes

    Isn’t this something to be encouraged, not affirmative-actioned?

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    I assume you know he was being satirical. Good link.

  • http://kuiwon.wordpress.com/ Kuiwon

    Yes. At least that’s what I think. Here’s his second article on the topic: http://takimag.com/article/tackling_white_privilege_gavin_mcinnes

  • Arghaeri

    Why don’t you use it to mean what it means, bicycle!

  • Arghaeri

    Maybe you should try living there a bit longer, it’s been nothing special.

  • Arghaeri

    Come down and haunt them, since it ain’t happening in my lifetime.

  • Cloudfive

    LOL!

  • Arghaeri

    So perhaps you could answer a question, is the US military still using the same military flag as during its period of colonialism?

  • bumfromkorea

    Yes (well, more or less). Now let me ask you a question. Is the current US government fervently denying its wrongdoings during its period of colonialism, to the point of having Mayor of L.A., Mayor of NY, and the President calling its former victims willing, lucky, and whores?

  • Cloudfive

    The short answer is No.

    Prior to 1956 the Army was the only armed service without a flag to represent the entire service. The flag was officially adopted by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, on June 12, 1956

    The “new” U.S. naval flag

    was formally introduced to the public on April 30, 1959 at a ceremony at Naval Support Facility Carderock in Maryland .[1] It replaced the Infantry Battalion flag which had been used as the unofficial Flag of the United States Navy for many years.
    It is used on land in offices, in parades and for ceremonial
    occasions, and often on a staff at the quarterdeck of ships in port.[2]
    It is never flown by ships at sea, nor on outdoor flagpoles on naval
    land installations, and is not used as an identifying mark of U.S. Navy
    ships and facilities, as is the U.S. Coast Guard ensign.

    You can look up the relevant histories of the Japanese national flag and the American national flag yourself. The American flag has had 50 stars since 1960, when Hawaii became a state.

  • Cloudfive

    Both the military and the national flags of the United States have changed. The Japanese national flag(not imperial) has been in use since 1870 according to wikipedia.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Japan

  • Arghaeri

    Thanks for the answer.

    As for your question, probably not, but then I never suggested it did, nor has the answer any bearing on your point. Which inferred that using a military flag from a colonial period was inherently wrong. When now it is clear you meant it is only inherently wrong if you’re not American.

  • Arghaeri

    How will looking up the Japanese flag answer a question about the US flag?

  • Arghaeri

    How will looking up the US national flag answer a question about the military flag?

    You seem very confused!!

  • Arghaeri

    But thanks for the bit where you actually answered the question.

    I was thinking all those war movies I’ve seen over the years and I couldn’t think what the US military flags might look like.

    I could argue your answer given The miltary flag introduction you mention was in 1956, some three years before Hawaii became a state and given the extant commonwealth territories, but yes I believe it’s fair to say Americas colonialism finished before 1956. So thanks, another factoid learnt.

  • Cloudfive

    Didn’t this whole discussion start with standing up for the Japanese national anthem? How did it become about the U.S. flag? You brought that up…. I was just bringing it back full circle.

  • Arghaeri

    Nope Bum brought up the issue of still using the same military flag, thereby inferring it was inherently wrong.

    So I was specifically curious to see if as on other occasions he was applying double standards (he was) and generally curious, as I couldn’t think what the US military flag looked like let alone whether it had been changed.

  • bumfromkorea

    When now it is clear you meant it is only inherently wrong if you’re not American.

    Isn’t it so much easier to argue with people when you can determine what your counterpart has said? I’m done.

  • Arghaeri

    What you said is a matter of record, clearly in the context inferring that such was inherently wrong.

    However, when challenged as to whether the same might apply to America you acknowledged (wrongly it now appears) that it did, but then tried to infer that it wouldn’t be wrong for America

  • bumfromkorea

    My argument was that the flag, for countless people, means Japan’s horrific imperial past (something that you falsely equate to American colonialism), and combined with the context of Japan’s current attitude towards its past (which, again, differs significantly from US), it’s not surprising that their national anthem is the same. But you’re so fixated on the “military flag” aspect that you’re just seeing the double standard that isn’t there.

  • Mr. Youknowwho

    인천공항서 마약 2kg 갖고 출국하려던 호주인 적발
    http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=shm&sid1=102&oid=032&aid=0002313694

  • RolyPoly

    i saw the movie “Side Effects” and it knocked my socks off. The best movie for this year!

  • http://www.facebook.com/gojaejin Jeremy J. Goard

    (1) Buy beers for the extra service men and women stationed in Busan while NK is busy getting annihilated.
    (2) Give blood for the Seoul relief effort.
    (3) Train myself out of feeling so safe at night, I guess, in anticipation of the roving gangs of unemployed, single and bitterly racist nork gangs that will be with us for several decades.

  • RElgin

    I applaud Elizabeth Warren and her comments:

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren unloaded on bank regulators Thursday about the fact that British bank HSBC is still doing business in the U.S., with no criminal charges filed against it, despite confessing to what one regulator called “egregious” money laundering violations.
    Her comments came just a day after the attorney general of the United States confessed that some banks are so big and important that they are essentially above the law. His Justice Department’s failure to bring any criminal charges against HSBC or its employees is Exhibit A of that problem.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/07/elizabeth-warren-hsbc-money-laundering_n_2830166.html

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day. This does not detract from the fact that EW is a monstrously stupid liberal cow

  • RElgin

    So what would that imply for the other cows? Milking?
    You are hung up on labels and the sort of “black & white” thinking that comes with that.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    She’s an ultra liberal who stands for massive redistribution and government intrusion into all spheres of life. She’s also a filthy liar. I called her a cow because she’s both as stupid and as ugly as a cow

  • Bob Bobbs
  • Arghaeri

    LOL the argument you made is on record. Changing your argument to include points you never made, such as policians denying their history, is not defuse its a withdrawal.

    Fixation on flags you raised it, I only pointed out the double standard. And I’m pretty sure the American flag for countless Morro’s was pretty offensive to behold.

  • Arghaeri

    Anyway thought you were done, can’t even keep your promise on that!!!

  • Ladron

    because it means motorcycle, also?

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bike

  • Gerry Beves

    It’s time to start preparing more seriously for war with North Korea by using spy drones in North Korean airspace while also planning, preparing, and training for the large-scale use of weaponized drones. Before a war starts we need to have all their artillery positions along the border thoroughly mapped out and heavily targeted for a preemptive strike. It is unwise to keep ignoring or dismissing North Korean threats.

  • Horace Jeffery Hodges

    Okay, cow aren’t especially clever, but they have beautiful eyes.

    Jeffery Hodges

    * * *

  • John from Daejeon

    North Korean daily life pictures. I’ll give Ferris some credit, these are pretty good pictures, but they all seem pretty well orchestrated by his handlers as there are none concerning what is happening in rural areas, along the Yalu River, or in the many gulags. Also, he doesn’t mention why there are no women riding bicycles to his audience as most Americans don’t realize that it is illegal for women to do so in North Korea. I wonder why he left that point out.

  • bumfromkorea

    Ugh, that was a string of pictures that the NK propaganda specialists can be proud of.

  • f52gafe

    希望你會肢解