Mongolians, Americans, Canadians, Russians most criminally prone foreigners

by Robert Koehler on February 19, 2013

in Stupid Foreigner Tricks

A study from the Korea Institute of Criminology revealed that Mongolians, Americans, Canadians and Russians had the highest rates of criminality of Korea’s foreign community, the Herald Gyeongje reports

In fact—and jot this down, because it’ll be on the test—not only did Mongolians, Americans, Canadians and Russians have higher rates of criminality than your average foreigner, but their rates of criminality were higher than that of Koreans.

According to the study, entitled “Research into Crime and Public Safety in Areas with a High Concentration of Foreigners,” the Mongolian community had 7,064 criminals per 100,000 Mongolians in 2011, followed by the American community (6,756 per 100,000), Canadians (4,124 per 100,000) and Russians (3,785 per 100,000). These rates were higher than both the general foreigner rate of criminality of 2,763 per 100,000 and the Korean rate of criminality of 3,692 per 100,000.

This is why I never invite people to our home—between my wife and me, it’s virtually Detroit in there.

Interestingly, criminals of European descent (i.e., honkies) had higher rates of physical crimes like assaults, while criminals of Asian descent had higher rates of “smart crimes” like fraud. According to the Herald Gyeongje, this ran counter to the commonly held belief that crimes by Asian criminals were more brutal and dangerous.

It does, however, support the commonly held belief that Asians are better at math. OK, I added that last part. You’ve got to give me some comedic leeway here.

Anyway, Chinese—including Joseon-jok—had a criminality rate of just 2,921 per 100,000. Thais and Pakistanis had higher rates of criminality than the foreigner average, while Vietnamese, Filipinos and Indonesians had lower rates of criminality than the foreigner average.

By crime type, Americans were the most prone to violent crime (33.4%), followed by the Canadians (33.4%), Mongolians (27.3%—nice to see them breaking the Asian stereotype) and Russians (23.4%). Meanwhile, for “smart crimes” like fraud, the Taiwanese led the way with 45.5%, followed by the Bengalis (33.1%) and Chinese (30.3%).

The ratio of rapes to other crimes was highest for Pakistanis (3%), followed by Uzbeks (2.6%), Benalis (2.1%) and Americans (1.3%).

Marmot’s Note: No, I have no idea how they did their study. Ask Choi Yeong-sik at the KIC.

UPDATE: I find the graph of arrests per 100,000 interesting, too:

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The graph certainly begs the question, “Why have the Americans become so knavish since 2009?” Note that according to the graph, USFK members and their dependents are included in the American total.

{ 52 comments… read them below or add one }

1 dlbarch February 19, 2013 at 1:16 pm

Shouldn’t there be a self-deprecating joke in there somewhere about the criminality of cute Mongolian gals stealing people’s hearts?

DLB

2 keyinjpop February 19, 2013 at 2:16 pm

No mention of Japanese criminals? My God. I imagine most of the assaults were from American military rather than vacationers. Then again, anyone can go Hulk on others with the right amount of booze.

3 Jang February 19, 2013 at 2:57 pm

Who would question where or how the Herald Gyeongje came up with those figures since Koreans are so good with numbers and stats, especially about foreigner crime rates? Korean high schoolers know well that cheating or “fraud” is “smart,” now only if the Herald Gyeongje can start printing a kids version of its fine paper so that elementary schoolers can learn about how “smart” cheating is. Or do their parents already teach them that?

4 bulgasari February 19, 2013 at 3:16 pm

And here we have the problem with statistics – they’re wildly different depending on the source. I’d be very curious to know where they got their statistics and how they analyzed them. That little graph in the Herald Gyeongje gives much higher crime statistics than I’ve seen elsewhere (for example, the Korean Institute of Criminology – the same institution! – said in 2008 that the Korean crime rate in 2007 was 3.5%, but the graph shows it to be well over 4%). As a comparison, the graph says that in 2010 the Mongolian crime rate was about 6%, the US, 5%, Canada, 3,3%, China, 2.5% and Koreans, 3.9%. Statistics I have for 2010 from the Supreme Prosecutor’s Office say that the crime rates for these groups were Mongolia, 6%, the US, 1.6%, Canada, 2%, China, 2.7% and Koreans, 3.8%. So while the Mongolian rate was the same and China and Korea’s similar, the US and Canada’s were much lower. Which stats are right? In the case of the SPO stats, they at least list the number of actual crimes so you can make a comparison with the total population yourself, whereas the KIC stats listed above don’t give any of the raw data.

5 Yu Bum Suk February 19, 2013 at 3:56 pm

Arrests, reports, or convictions? Does it include driving crimes? Fewer foreign residents drive. Are Korean children included in the percentage? Far fewer foreign residents are children, and far fewer are retirees, two low groups for crime. Basically stats like these are useless.

6 Baek, In-je February 19, 2013 at 6:02 pm

I am sure the violent crime by Americans that they are referring to is white guys getting into fights with Korean ajosshi. White guys tend to come out on top in a fight with a Korean ajosshi due to size and the fact that Koreans don’t fight well (see every war in their history as a reference).

7 Adams-awry February 19, 2013 at 7:38 pm

That’s not what “beg the question” means.

8 stereo February 19, 2013 at 7:48 pm

Right. Where are the numbers for Japanese in Korea, which Koreans are always obsessed with?

9 Anonymous_Joe February 19, 2013 at 7:57 pm

Does it beg the question to use this to prove that he does not understand what “beg the question” means?

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(Yeah, that’s all I got for this one.)

10 que337 February 19, 2013 at 8:06 pm

Why are you obsessed with Korea blogs?

11 stereo February 19, 2013 at 8:22 pm

You are surely obsessed with Japan and Japanese, for you never fail to show up whenever Japan is mentioned here.

12 Horace Jeffery Hodges February 19, 2013 at 8:26 pm

This is a fight lost long ago, AA — the illiterates always win.

Jeffery Hodges

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13 Dokdoforever February 19, 2013 at 8:50 pm

Right. I’d like to see comparative crime rates controlled for gender and age. What’s the crime rate for a 20 year old male across nationality?

14 bballi February 19, 2013 at 9:33 pm

No, this guy doesn’t fight well.
Koreans, they fight just fine. Just ask the VC.

15 John from Daejeon February 19, 2013 at 10:39 pm

Totally BS as somehow Nigerians didn’t make the cut.

16 cm February 19, 2013 at 11:31 pm

In Japan, isn’t most crimes usually blamed on Koreans?

17 que337 February 19, 2013 at 11:56 pm

I have paid attention to Japan because Japanese are obsessed with Korean territory and spread lies about Korea.

18 Bob Bobbs February 20, 2013 at 4:43 am

And I have paid attention to Korea because Koreans are obsessed with donkey sex and spread sexually-transmitted infections from donkeys.

P. S. I forgot to mention that I’m talking about Koreans who are obsessed with donkey sex.

19 Bob Bobbs February 20, 2013 at 5:04 am

For sure. There can’t have been 1,900 Canadians convicted of crimes from 2007 t0 2011. That’s more than one per day, and the American rate is 2.5 per day! The hagwons and universities would run out of instructors if that many people were being scooped out of Gecko’s every day. This has to be including all levels of contact with police as ‘criminal’, including traffic violations like speeding and parking. The American number has to reflect the huge influx of Americans post-2008 economic meltdown. Prior to that, I would have said that the number of Canadians and Americans teaching ESL were about equal, now the Americans clearly outnumber the Canadians. Perhaps they are starting to ‘swarm’ or travel in ‘hordes.’ It worked for the Mongols.

20 Bob Bobbs February 20, 2013 at 5:06 am

20 year old males rarely have 4-year North American undergraduate degrees, so they’re rarely in Korea in the first place except as soldiers. Let’s say 23 or 24 year olds.

21 Bob Bobbs February 20, 2013 at 5:10 am

Er. I have been on both ends in Korea. Remember, you are outnumbered.

22 que337 February 20, 2013 at 5:27 am

Donkey sex? Is that what you are interested in when you were in Korea?

23 wangkon936 February 20, 2013 at 5:34 am

Well…. I would hope that a 20 something year old young man would have a leg up against an “ajosshi” who is in their 30′s to 50′s.

Korean men in their 20′s will let an ajosshi beat them up because they have been conditioned to be obedient. Not a white guy in his 20′s. He’ll let loose with no sociological restrictions restraining him whatsoever.

24 wangkon936 February 20, 2013 at 5:36 am

Charlie was scared of those Daihans. Just ask any American vet.

25 wangkon936 February 20, 2013 at 5:38 am

Seems like Canadian ETs are a lot like Canadian beef. A lot more dangerous, but get none of the blame.

26 Horace Jeffery Hodges February 20, 2013 at 5:45 am

Those who talk about donkey sex have no horse sense.

Jeffery Hodges

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27 yangachibastardo February 20, 2013 at 5:47 am

I know you have traumatic first-hand exerience with that

28 yangachibastardo February 20, 2013 at 5:50 am

It is kinda regrettable you lived to tell…well the world is far from being perfect or fair

29 que337 February 20, 2013 at 6:24 am

I thought you have immense trust on KIC research whether or not supported by verifiable statistics.

30 Horace Jeffery Hodges February 20, 2013 at 6:36 am

Not to mention true aliens: Martians, who are deeply into martial arts, even to the degree of identifying with the Roman god of war!

Jeffery Hodges

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31 Bob Bobbs February 20, 2013 at 7:52 am

Koreans who only complain about American teachers are like atheists who only complain about Christians.

32 Bob Bobbs February 20, 2013 at 7:55 am

I earned my stripes.

33 Bob Bobbs February 20, 2013 at 7:58 am

And I can’t believe you brought up the beef. Well, I guess I can. After all the admitted falsehoods, all the doctored evidence, all the bad science, all the prejudice, all the hatred, all the riots, all the violence, you’re still holding a candle for the two dead girls, talking about how the American tank drivers laughed about their dead bodies and complaining about the ‘unfair’ SOFA. How nice. You gonna go stab a GI now?

34 Bob Bobbs February 20, 2013 at 8:02 am

Why so serious?

35 weiguk February 20, 2013 at 9:06 am

Sounds like you should contact them calling them out.

36 weiguk February 20, 2013 at 9:09 am

a discrepancy from several years ago could be explained by crimes that were from that year that hadn’t been resolved at that point. Do you have a link to the SPO’s statistics from those years.

37 Matt February 20, 2013 at 9:31 am

This study is complete fiction. It appears to be comparing “arrests” of foreigners to “convictions” of Koreans.

38 SomeguyinKorea February 20, 2013 at 1:00 pm

You mean they are right?

39 SomeguyinKorea February 20, 2013 at 1:03 pm

Or how some of us guys are committing crimes in the eyes of the xenophobes by the mere fact we are married to Koreans?

40 dlbarch February 20, 2013 at 1:08 pm

I think that only applies if one’s wife is smokin’ hot!

(I once had a brutally honest Korean friend who admitted that he didn’t mind foreigners dating “our” women, so long as they kept to the short and dumpy ones.)

Ouch!

DLB

41 Yu Bum Suk February 20, 2013 at 1:22 pm

Good points. Hey, if Tablo gets counter-sued for criminal defamation does that mean my country’s producing more criminals? I guess so.

42 bulgasari February 20, 2013 at 1:55 pm

The SPO stats (I don’t have a link, just a hard copy) are labelled “Number of charges of reported crimes in 2010″ and include Korean and several foreign nationalities. The stats were received in late 2011; whether they’d been resolved or not would not affect ‘charges.’

43 stereo February 20, 2013 at 2:01 pm

No. Chinese have the largest share in foreigner crimes in Japan.
http://www.npa.go.jp/hakusyo/h24/toukei/02/3-09.xls

44 Jang February 20, 2013 at 3:00 pm

It’s too late, the report is finished. Changes aren’t needed when it has to do with foreigners and if any change would make foreigners look less like criminals it’s pointless, a total waste of time.

45 yangachibastardo February 20, 2013 at 3:58 pm

You have a point

46 SomeguyinKorea February 20, 2013 at 11:57 pm

Even better since my wife is hot.

47 dlbarch February 21, 2013 at 12:27 am

Outstanding! Mazel tov!

DLB

48 Bob Bobbs February 21, 2013 at 3:56 am

You didn’t get my joke.

49 Bob Bobbs February 21, 2013 at 4:08 am
50 wangkon936 February 21, 2013 at 5:42 am

Good a place as any to post this. USFK has a meme:

http://frabz.com/u64

51 gbnhj February 21, 2013 at 7:52 am

Thanks for putting up this link, Bob, and thanks also to Matt at Gusts of Popular Feeling for analyzing the study directly and discovering how its flaws allowed for such a failed conclusion. I encourage anyone who is interested in what this study purports to show to follow the link a check it out for yourself.

52 코리아 February 21, 2013 at 11:31 am

Matt over at Gusts once again has done an amazing job getting to the bottom of this nonsense (and spoiler alert – yes these numbers are complete nonsense): http://populargusts.blogspot.kr/2013/02/incorrect-statistics-portray-americans.html

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