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Japanese in America write to NY lawmakers, call Comfort Women ‘prostitutes’

Newsis reports that the Japanese community in the United States is conducting an organized promotional operation—using mass emails to American politicians and Youtube—to distort the history of the comfort women.

And this has got the Korean community in the United States on edge. Or so Newsis reports.

The Japanese community has gotten even more vehement since news broke that both houses of the New York legislature had introduced a resolution calling on Japan to apologize for the Comfort Women.

Japanese in the States have since been conducting through a website a campaign to write and call American politicians. The irony, notes Newsis, is that their grass roots approach seems to have benchmarked the successful decade-long lobbying efforts of Korean-American groups, with some observers wondering whether the campaign intends to “water down” the Korean-American effort.

The two New York lawmakers who sponsored the resolution—Queen’s Tony Avella and Long Island’s Charles Lavine–are reportedly getting flooded with protest emails from Japanese—Sen. Avella says he’s getting over 200 a day. He said most of the emails say the Comfort Women were prostitutes who did it for the money and that the lawmakers shouldn’t be fooled by the Korean community’s lies.

Even (or should we say, naturally) Assemblyman Ron Kim, New York’s first Korean politician, is getting hit with bulk emails. One his folk told Newsis that while emails campaigns like this pose no problem to the Korean community who know all too well the history between Korea and Japan, one cannot rule out that other American politicians might be swayed by the Japanese community’s organized emails.

According to the New York JoongAng Ilbo, the lawmakers are getting two emails, samples of both of which are posted at the ironically named website Japanese Women for Justice and Peace. As I fear that site might not be long for this world, I repost them here for your collective outrage:

To the senators and representatives of New York state legislature

I am writing this mail on behalf of all the Japanese who are concerned with the current U.S.-Japan relations.

On January 8, NHK (Japan Broadcasting Corporation) broadcast a news program in which they reported, under the topic title of “NY assembly to hear ‘Comfort Women’ resolution”, that State Senator Tony Avella and Assemblyman Charles Lavine demanded Japan’s government to apologize for the forced prostitution of women serving the Japanese military during World War II and that they were going to submit their demand in the form of a resolution to the New York legislature. And, according to Jan 17th edition of Sankei, one of the Japanese leading newspapers, they have submitted the concurrent resolution.

As you may know, so-called comfort women are the women who worked during World War II as prostitutes for the Japanese military. This fact might sound immoral by present-day standards, but prostitution was a legal business in those days in many countries. Even around U.S. military bases, prostitution agents must also have existed during the periods of Japan occupation, Korean War, and Vietnam War.

However, as many as fifty years after the War, a bogus story was suddenly spread in Korea and Japan — a story that Japanese military abducted many women and forced into prostitution during the War. Nowadays, many Koreans living in the U.S. propagate fabricated stories that more than 200 thousand Korean women were abducted and worked as “sex slaves” during the wartime and that it was equivalent to the Holocaust. These stories have been proven to be completely fictitious as a result of many researches by scholars and experts. In spite of their longstanding efforts, there has been absolutely no evidence of Japanese military’s coercing Korean women into prostitution against their will.

We cannot allow this kind of propaganda that insults Japan; their pretense hurts our pride and dishonors our ancestors. To protest this malicious gossip, we submitted two petitions to the White House, each with more than 30 thousand signatures, as follows:

“WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Remove the monument and not to support any international harassment related to this issue against the people of Japan”

http://wh.gov/yrR

“Repeal the House of Representatives Resolution 121 to stop aggravating int’l harassment by Korean propaganda & lies!”

http://wh.gov/lBwa

U.S.-Japan alliance is the cornerstone of peace, security, and stability in the Asia-Pacific region. Anti-Japan propaganda activities based on the fictitious ‘comfort women’ issue do nothing but deteriorate the relationship among U.S., Korea, and Japan. Such movement only alters the situation to the advantage of North Korea and China.

We Japanese, who place a high value on the importance of historical facts as well as U.S.-Japan relationship, therefore protest decisively against the resolution regarding comfort women that is to be submitted to the New York state legislature.

We know that American people cherish and esteem fairness, justice, and truth. We hope that you will make a truthful, fair, and objective judgment on this issue.

Sincerely yours,
差出人の名前

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To the senators and representatives of New York state legislature

I am writing this message to you on behalf of many concerned Japanese.

I read a Korean internet news that “State Senator Tony Avella and Assemblyman Charles Lavine want Japanese government to apologize for the forced prostitution of women , or “comfort women”, serving the Japanese military during World War Ⅱ, and will submit their demand in a resolution to the New York legislature.” And, according to Jan 17th edition of Sankei, one of the Japanese leading newspapers, they have submitted the concurrent resolution.

The term “comfort women” refers simply to prostitutes in wartime. But Koreans have long been promoting a false version of history that Japan abducted hundreds of thousands of Korean women and coerced them into sexual services for Japanese soldiers outside of Japan during World War Ⅱ. This is, for practical and logical reasons, a fictitious version of history.

Japanese government conducted careful investigations and examination of the related documents and listened to the testimony of witnesses from both Japanese and Korean. Based on their careful research, Japanese government officially denied enforceability. And still, Japanese government made public apologies for former comfort women’s hard experiences.

Despite apologies taken places privately and by the Japanese government, the compensation for former comfort women, or other efforts such as Asian Women’s Fund, Koreans has no intention of forgiveness.

Koreans’ activities such as building comfort women memorials lead to unnecessary racial conflict and suffering of people of Japanese ancestry, and perpetrate the distorted truth to American citizens who are not familiar with this controversial issue between Japan and Korea.

I would like you to know these two petitions to the White House have reached more than 30,000 signatures and still getting more.

Remove the monument and not to support any international harassment related to this issue against the people of Japan.

http://wh.gov/yrR

Repeal the House of Representatives Resolution 121 to stop aggravating int’l harassment by Korean propaganda & lies!

http://wh.gov/lBwa

To know more about the comfort women issue, please visit the following websites.

What is the “Comfort Women Issue?”

http://sakura.a.la9.jp/japan/?page_id=2015

Mr. Komori of Japanese newspaper being interviewed on the comfort women issue for the PBS series

http://sakura.a.la9.jp/japan/?page_id=2535

GEISHA, TONY BLAIR & COMFORT WOMEN

http://sakura.a.la9.jp/japan/?page_id=2556

We Japanese are strongly against NY state comfort women resolution. We believe that the American people cherish and enthusiastically defend fairness, justice and the truth. We hope that you will make a truthful, fair and objective judgment in regards to this issue.

Sincerely yours,
差出人の名前

The Japanese have taken to Youtube, too. Newsis especially points out the videos by this guy, a one Yujiro Taniyama (I appreciated the Bruce Cumings quote—must have been Revisionist Solidarity Week at Youtube).

They also point to a video to this charming fellow, who calls the Comfort Women memorial in Long Island a desecration of the nearby Korean War memorial:

Treat others as you would like yourself to be treated, eh? Lead by example, eh?

Fine with me—who wants to start sending mass emails to American politicians condemning the Civil Liberties Act of 1988? Maybe hit up a National Assemblyman or two to see if we can get an ad into the New York Times claiming Japanese-Americans voluntarily moved to the desert during World War II, where they were encouraged to move by Japanese-American real estate agents.

Come on, as an American, my ancestors are being dishonored!

Anyway, Newsis suggests this is not entirely unrelated to the rightward shift in Japan, including the recent start of Shinzo Abe 2.0.

Korean groups in the United States are remaining calm—the head of one such group told Newsis that the Japanese were digging their own graves with this sort of stuff. Which is probably true.

Marmot’s Note: I’m not sure what the “Japanese community” in the United States thinks about all this, but I do know it was a Japanese-American, Mike Honda, who sponsored the House resolution calling on Japan to accept responsibility for the Comfort Women.

About the author: Just the administrator of this humble blog.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Who cares? Look, the Japanese nation is dying out rapidly and in 2 generations they will be decimated by low birth rates, extreme xenophobia that will prevent any immigration to offset the losses in population, and natural disasters to boot. And I say good fucking riddance to a nation that feels no shame but pride in a wretched history. Fuck them, they are a dying, stagnating nation. See you in extinction, fuckers.

  • spider2Ybanana

    I love this blog.

  • wangkon936

    Here’s the interesting thing. When it comes to some of the most damning evidence on comfort women, the U.S. posses a lot of it while they were fighting the Japanese during WWII.

    Japanese researchers such as Yuki Tanaka used a lot of U.S. military sources and Japanese documents captured by the U.S.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=4WfJgGorDx8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=yuki+Tanaka&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xtQAUa_YD4PniwKH-4HwCQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAA

  • wangkon936

    Obligatory request by moderator to tone it down por favor. Thank you for your cooperation.

  • Wedge1

    I’m guessing this is not as much of a “Japanese-American” thing as a “Japanese” thing. When you’re a yonsei or gosei you don’t have a lot of blind patriotism for the motherland. Case in point: Mike Honda.

  • wangkon936

    From my experience, the Japanese American community can really give a shit about what’s going on in Japan. I think if you dig a little deeper into this you are not really going to find a grass roots community effort, but some recent Japanese immigrants with ties to the Japanese government and their wapanese affiliates. Perhaps some might be on a payroll of some kind.

  • yankdownunder
  • platethief

    `see you in extinction, fuckers`

    If you`ve typed that in Korea, thosd words maybe more prophetic than you think, given the Korean appetite for extreme xenophobia amongst its aged population. You can swap catastrophic natural disasters for nuclear armaggedon at the hands of a despot who currently has missiles within driving distance of Seoul.

    Korea and Japan, not so different afterall.

  • http://www.gofundme.com/1k98a8 Jakgani

    the Japanese nation is dying out rapidly and in 2 generations they will be decimated by low birth rates, extreme xenophobia that will prevent any immigration to offset the losses in population, and natural disasters to boot.

    True, so let it be… in the meantime, is there any reason to hate them so much?

    HEAPS of countries have committed atrocities in the past – especially the UK “empire”.

    Should we say “fucking riddance to that nation”? (they are not disappearing yet)

    As you stated, Japan is going downhill fast.

    why, erect monuments etc, insulting them – whilst they are going downhill??

    That’s also inhumane.

    Let them “go downhill” in peace – they are also human, made mistakes in their past, just like many, many other nations.

    So, they have pride, and won’t acknowledge in full their former mistakes – that is THEIR culture – and they are entitled to it – just like Koreans are entitles to “their culture” (or what they have adapted from China, Japan, Manchuria, Mongolia, etc etc etc and claim to be theirs)

  • Yu Bum Suk

    I hope someone’s posted that video to the Korean Sentry Forum.

  • hjohn592955

    just foad

  • hjohn592955

    hope you die a painful death.

  • hjohn592955

    die painfully retard

  • platethief

    Retard, your quite the wit.
    Platethief

  • rjs_569

    gfy please

  • Scott N

    NY state legislature? They want the Japanese to apologize to Korea? What about the mafia and the cops who got rich selling dope for 70 years?

  • stereo

    wangkon, I do not understand what you are saying. What exactly is interesting, and why? If someone has a lot of evidence, a researcher would write reports based on it. It is just natural. Why interesting?

  • stereo

    I could not resist saying “same to you”.
    The birth rate of Korea is lower than that of Japan.
    Korea is no less xenophobic than Japan.
    “a nation that feels no shame but pride in a wretched history”
    -Korea invented Chinese characters.
    -Confucius was Korean.
    -Korea has been a civilized nation for 5000 years.
    -Sea of Japan was called “East Sea” before Japan and Korea merged in 1910.

  • antinip9292

    hope you end up dying of aids, retard

  • antinip59295

    die of aids shithead

  • nipkilla59295929

    Die painfully okay? Prefearbly by getting crushed to death in a

    garbage compactor, by getting your face cut to ribbons with a

    pocketknife, your head cracked open with a baseball bat, your stomach

    sliced open and your entrails spilled out, and your eyeballs ripped

    out of their sockets. Fucking bitch

    I really hope that you get curb-stomped. It’d be hilarious to see you

    begging for help, and then someone stomps on the back of your head,

    leaving you to die in horrible, agonizing pain. Faggot

    Shut the fuck up f aggot, before you get your face bashed in and cut

    to ribbons, and your throat slit.

  • nipkilla59295929

    Die painfully okay? Prefearbly by getting crushed to death in a

    garbage compactor, by getting your face cut to ribbons with a

    pocketknife, your head cracked open with a baseball bat, your stomach

    sliced open and your entrails spilled out, and your eyeballs ripped

    out of their sockets. Fucking bitch

    I really hope that you get curb-stomped. It’d be hilarious to see you

    begging for help, and then someone stomps on the back of your head,

    leaving you to die in horrible, agonizing pain. Faggot

    Shut the fuck up f aggot, before you get your face bashed in and cut

    to ribbons, and your throat slit.

  • nipkilla59295929

    Please turn to the loaded gun in your drawer, put it in your mouth, and pull the trigger,

    blowing your brains out. You’ll be doing the whole world a favor. Shitbag.

    I would love to smash your face in until it no longer resembled anything human, faggot.

  • nipkilla59295929

    Die painfully okay? Prefearbly by getting crushed to death in a

    garbage compactor, by getting your face cut to ribbons with a

    pocketknife, your head cracked open with a baseball bat, your stomach

    sliced open and your entrails spilled out, and your eyeballs ripped

    out of their sockets. Fucking bitch

    I really hope that you get curb-stomped. It’d be hilarious to see you

    begging for help, and then someone stomps on the back of your head,

    leaving you to die in horrible, agonizing pain. Faggot

    Shut the fuck up f aggot, before you get your face bashed in and cut

    to ribbons, and your throat slit..

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Yeah, that’s the feeling I got—to the extent that anything’s going on at all, it’s probably a small group of right-wing Japanese expats in the States and their “wapanese affiliates.” Which, BTW, is a great turn of phrase I may borrow.

    What I’m curious, though, is to what extend the Korean-American community is mobilized for the history wars. It definitively seems like these campaigns are gaining some clout. You’ve got your finger on the KoAm pulse, so perhaps you could tell us.

  • ChuckRamone

    These e-mails/letters were obviously written by recent immigrants. The English sounds very Japanglish.

  • http://www.globalasianculture.com Liz

    I agree these petitions are despicable, but they make a kind of interesting point about Japanese defamation.

    One of the chief complaints seems to be “These memorials are making us look bad.”

    Which is true. But then again, I don’t see any German or German Americans writing letters complaining, “The Holocaust Memorial in DC makes us look bad.”

    These letters are also poorly written — not sure how they’d explain the logical necessity of a Japanese government apology (which has happened), if indeed these women were happy-go-lucky prostitutes.

  • jimkr533197

    Wow.

  • jimkr533197

    zhduku

  • keyinjpop

    Did the Japanese fuck you over personally or were taught to hate with every fiber of your being a particular group of people? Lay off the haterade bro.

  • platethief

    Before I came to Korea and Japan, I had nothing but unquestionable sympathy for any country that suffered under the brutal, murderous regime of Imperial Japan, particularly South East nations such as Burma and Thailand, which are still overlooked owing to the fact the hold little political or economic clout on the current world stage, yet suffered some of the most barbaric acts of Japanese expansionism.

    After coming to Korea, constantly being told that Japan has never officially apologised (which I later found to be untrue), that Korea was a utopia of modernism (print press, railways) which I knew could not be true, and that no Korean collaborated with the Imperial army (despite a significant amount being tried for war crimes and little history of credible resistance) and that Koreans are nothing but friendly (despite seeing a black stranger called a ‘nigger’ in the subway by a random ajoshi, and myself being confronted 2 times, one of them forcing me to defend myself physically for being a ‘waygookin’) I couldn’t help but question the narratuve.

    Mostly I met a people whose identity was founded upon an inflated sense of their country’s achievements and uniqueness, hiding a desperate sense of insecurity, a need to impress upon others an idea that they are, in some intangible sense to anyone with a modicum of common sense, genetically and morally the best, producing the best food/music/clothes/citiies, and that you are other. Everything started in Korea; if it didn’t, Korea made it better.

    Much of the same was experienced in Japan, but to a lesser degree.

    Let’s hope neither of these countries influence Western thinking. As much as I admire aspects of both/cultures countries, I hope they respect the culture of rationality, reason and debate, qualities which this debate can only drag down to the level of a playground spat.

  • ChuckRamone

    Same thing happens in the West. It’s called ethnocentrism, and every culture is guilty of it to varying degrees.

  • wangkon936

    Yes, so the natural question is…. are these recent immigrants even holders of American citizenship? Can they vote? If not, then are they even constituents of the representatives they are email and letter blasting?

  • wangkon936

    Reminding people that sometimes their culture is just as weird, complex or ugly is something I’ve been trying to do on this blog for almost five years. Mixed success. People are closed minded and like to point out the speck in another country’s eye but don’t notice the log in the eye in their own culture/country.

  • wangkon936

    They have been around so long that they are now a cultural and historical part of NY/NJ. I wouldn’t be surprised if something is passed for “historical preservation” purposes, on their behalf.

  • http://profiles.google.com/dcmusicfreak DC Musicfreak

    Burmese were pro-Japan (anti-British colonizers) and Thailand was neutral and let the Japanese march though. Perhaps you meant the Philippines, Malaysia or Singapore.

  • wangkon936

    It’s interesting because the Americans have ample evidence for the comfort women whereas they may not have a lot of evidence for other things that the Japanese have been accused of during WWII. Thus, they can see through Japanese B.S. in this case.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    I’ve noticed that too. In fairness, this is a blog about Korea, and posters point out the good and bad about Korea. If I started posting about the majestic purple mountains and amber waves of grain of the U.S.A. people would rightly start to wonder.

    I give OP style points for his brazeness. I wish that he hadn’t felt the need to temper it with the “as much as I admire aspects of both/cultures countries…” coda.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    In fairness to Salman, he could say that about any country, any culture, or any people.

    BTW, after listening to his sales pitch, I thought about purchasing a time share on Misanthrope Island, but I hated the neighbors or, more accurately, they hated me.

  • http://profiles.google.com/dcmusicfreak DC Musicfreak

    Where the hell does racial hatred fit in with Libertarianism (Ron Paul’s neo-Nazi issues notwithstanding)?

  • http://profiles.google.com/dcmusicfreak DC Musicfreak

    I’d love to see a trove of authoritative documents spill out to undercut and shame Japanese revisionists — although there might be a lot of stuff there that gores Korean sacred cows, too, including on Dokdo.

  • ChuckRamone

    I agree this is a blog to discus Korea and criticize or praise it. But this guy makes it sound almost like these experiences he’s had are due to a xenophobia that’s unique to Korea and Japan.

  • ChuckRamone

    Good question. I know in New York there are quite a few older Japanese immigrants who own businesses in the city. Usually restaurants or clothing stores. There are probably enough immigrants to do this. Some are probably sending multiple missives.

  • ChuckRamone
  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Its not racial hatred, its hatred of fascists.

  • http://www.globalasianculture.com Liz

    …and just to put this news in perspective, and to quote Guardian correspondent Justin McCurry: “Just thought you’d like to know that the world’s third biggest economy is now run by an upper-class, racist thicko. Rejoice in that news.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/22/elderly-hurry-up-die-japanese

  • dww

    The Burmese were only pro-Japan until they realized that the Japanese military was far worse than the Brits previously were, and would never give them their independence. The Burmese eventually asked the UK and her allies to help expel Japanese forces, and then rose up against the Japanese on ‘Resistance Day’. Saying that the Burmese were “pro-Japan” isn’t really accurate.

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Well, if I may attempt to put a positive spin on this, with Abe and Aso at the helm, this blog will never be at loss for material.

  • platethief

    It goes without saying that you can find xenophobia in any culture or grouping. But what varies is how far you have to go to find it, what percentage of the group espouse it and how it is tolerated. In Europe, people heard talking about foreigners spreading AIDS and being genetically inferior are generally regarded as ignorant bigots, and treated as such. In certain countries, the same people are given positions within broadcasting.

    On a positive note, here’s to 50 years’ time, when the people of these nations can look back and laugh at the notions of their forefathers.

  • Hitokiri 1989

    Hmm doutful on Dokdo, as the documents that the US probably posses are stuff that they captured during the war which relates to Imperial military and government activities. The worse thing for Korea would be some of the documents might shed some light on Koreans in the Imperial Army, a fact that is already known to many. My take is that the US gov doesn’t want to disclose everything to avoid embarassing their “close ally” or themselves for not punishing war criminals. Remember the US still classifies some documents relating to Unit 731.

  • Hitokiri 1989

    Btw I’m actually intrigued by this “propaganda buster” dude. Heard hes got something like a cult following with the 2ch crowd in Japan. A google search referred me to a Japan Probe page that described him as a loon. Anyone know anything else about him. Seems like an old sod with too much time on his hands.

  • Hitokiri 1989

    Pro-Japan only to the extent that it was useful for them to achieve independence. Once the tides shifted for Japan, their Burmese “allies” turned on them. For the record, Malaya was very complicated due to its multi-racial makeup. The ethnic Malays were generally indifferent or pro-Japanese, Indians the same with some joining the Japanese wanting to liberate India and finally the Chinese who were mostly anti-Japanese, a lot of it influenced by Japanese brutality in the early days of occupation. Phillippines did suffer greatly though, due to the native’s population being very pro-American.

  • cm

    From what I gather, seeing his pictures of himself being chummy with Japanese right wing types in Japan, leads me to believe he’s employed by them. You’re right, he’s a looney toon.

  • yankdownunder

    would never give them their independence.

    Says who? If that’s not a racist statement then back it up.

    FYI

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Surrendered_Personnel

    Japanese Surrendered Personnel

    The JSP were until at least 1947 used for enforced labor purposes …

    After the war the U.K. quickly worked to regain control of its Colonial empire
    territories, and also worked to ensure that the Dutch and French could
    regain control of their colonial empires. Due to British manpower
    shortages in the combat against the local resistance fighters who sought
    national independence, JSP were often pressed into combat service
    alongside British occupation troops.

  • wangkon936

    Hopefully not after a few population decreasing wars.. like Europe.

  • Chukathejapanese

    Propaganda Buster ‘s Japanese name is “Texas Daddy” .

    Japan’s comfort women deniers believe this loony is a Texan!!!!

    Are we insulted or what!

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Says who?

    Well, Aung San apparently:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San#World_War_II_period

  • yankdownunder

    Aung San became skeptical of Japanese promises of true independence

    How do you equate the above wiki words
    with the statement that Japanese would NEVER give independence to their colonies.

    All Euros eventually gave but those evil monster Japanese would never give.
    That is the definition of racist rhetoric.

  • Hitokiri 1989

    You apparently ignored the part where it said “became skeptical of Japanese promises of true independence”. The Greater East Asia- Co-prosperity Sphere envisoned puppet states and direct colonies for Japan, not independence. No doubt what the Japanese did during ww2 contributed to independence for the colonies, but its doubtful whether that was their intention.

  • stereo

    Are you assuming that those Japanese-American petitioners did not check the evidence out there before starting the movement? I think your way of thinking very interesting.

  • jimkr533197

    diaff ok

  • stereo

    Liz, I will tell you what defamation means in English. It means an expression that makes someone look bad.

    > not sure how they’d explain the logical necessity of a Japanese government apology (which has happened), if indeed these women were happy-go-lucky prostitutes.

    This is very interesting. Let’s establish between us that Japanese government needs not apologize if these women were indeed happy-go-lucky prostitutes. I heard that Japanese government apologized, though it did not need to, because it wanted to coax Korean government to promote friendship between the two nations.

  • dww

    Saying that the Burmese leadership realized that the Japanese military would never give them them independence is racist rhetoric? Really?

  • yankdownunder

    You apparently ignored the part where it said “became skeptical of Japan’s ability to win the war.”

    It was obvious the Japanese were losing at that point. So he switched.

  • http://profiles.google.com/dcmusicfreak DC Musicfreak

    Correct. I merely sought to correct his examples of SE Asian countries that suffered the brunt of Japan’s onslaught. He picked the least appropriate examples.

  • stereo

    After re-reading the letters, I found that the senders do not say or imply they are American citizens. Rather, they say “We Japanese are strongly against NY state comfort women resolution.”
    Robert, where did you get the information that the letters were sent from “the Japanese community in the United States”? Is it yet another information manipulation by Koreans?

  • http://profiles.google.com/dcmusicfreak DC Musicfreak

    Another relatively obscure point of interest is the huge death toll Japan piled up in Vietnam with its seizures of rice. (Going from memory) I think more Vietnamese died in the early-1940s under Japanese occupation than were killed in the Vietnam War. Research I had to do in 1995 for the 50th anniversary of the surrender made it clear to me that Japan’s atrocities were not only vastly worse than the apologists and deniers maintain, but far worse than even most (nonspecialist) critics are aware of.

  • que337

    Aso’s family, since Aso Taro’s great grandfather, has been working in the field of coal mining industry (Aso Mining Co.) which exploited forced labor of Koreans, Chinese, and Allied POWs without pay during WWII:

    http://japanfocus.org/-William-Underwood/2537

    It is interesting he mentioned at a lecture in Nagasaki Prefecture that:

    “The Japanese were trusted because they had never been involved in exploitation there, or been involved in fights or fired machine guns. Japan is doing what the Americans can’t do. It would probably be no good to have blue eyes and blond hair. Luckily, we Japanese have yellow faces.”

  • chukathejapanese

    Why is “Texas Daddy” so popular and admired in Japan? Because many feel so good and proud when they saw at least one American, a Texan to boot , wholeheartedly approve of them although they do not understand his English at all. That is what those “denier- cum- anachronistic nationalist” were telling me in their blog . Then I wrote back , this guy is no Texan, he is a Brooklyn- born Italian American. My comment always made them very angry. One even called me a racist!!! The people who did this sham is very clever. Fascist loves propaganda. History repeats itself in Japan.

  • platefthief

    I would have thought Vietnam would be best avoided when talking about atrocities carried about by North East Asain nations. South Korean forces had a fair go at out-doing the Japanese when they got their time in ‘Nam.

  • http://profiles.google.com/dcmusicfreak DC Musicfreak

    The ROKs were feared and dreaded in VN, indeed. But we’re talking scales of magnitude of difference:

    “The deaths stemming from the great famine of 1944-45, which reached its zenith in March-April 1945 in Japanese-occupied northern Vietnam, eclipsed in scale all human tragedies of the modern period in that country up until that time. The demographics vary from French estimates of 600,000-700,000 dead, to official Vietnamese numbers of 1,000,000 to 2,000,000 victims.1 Food security is an age-old problem, and dearth, famine, and disease have long been a scourge of mankind across the broad Eurasian landmass and beyond. While more recent understandings2 recognize that famines are mostly man-made, it is also true that in ecologically vulnerable zones, alongside natural disasters, war and conflict often tilts the balance between sustainability and human disaster.3 Allowing the contingency of natural cause as a predisposing factor for mass famine, this article revisits the Vietnam famine of 1944-45 in light of flaws in human agency (alongside willful or even deliberate neglect) as well as destabilization stemming from war and conflict. While I avoid the issue of impacts of the famine in favor of seeking cause – the human suffering of the famine has not been effaced by time. It was recorded in Hanoi newspapers at the time. It survives in local memory and in fiction by Vietnamese writers.4

    The great famine was never construed as a war crime by the Allies, yet the question of blame, alongside agency or lack of it, was an issue between the French and the Viet Minh in the immediate aftermath of the Japanese surrender and entered into propaganda recriminations. Indeed, as written into the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (DRV) declaration of independence, both Japan and France were jointly blamed for the disaster. South Vietnam (the Republic of Vietnam) also raised the famine issue in postwar reparation negotiations with Japan. While such charged issues as the Nanjing Massacre, the comfort women, forced labor and unit 731 have long been the subject of intense debate in the historical memory wars, in textbook controversies and museum exhibits, the Vietnamese famine, and Japan’s role in creating it, appear to have disappeared from Japanese war memory and commemoration whether in textbooks or museum representations.”

    http://www.japanfocus.org/-Geoffrey-Gunn/3483 (and we must acknowledge the substantial leftward bias of Japan Focus and the usual problems of politicized numbers produced by communist regimes.)

  • s529599

    foad already

  • platethief

    Yeah, you’re right: Imperial Japan killed lots of Vietnamese people so there’s no point in mentioning that South Korea also slaughtered a sizeable amount of innocent civilians when in that country. We shouldn’t hold one group up to the standards they are demanding from others if they haven’t killed as many.

  • que337

    Let’s check out some statistics on Vietnam war. According to Vietnam’s Ministry of Culture and Communications, South Korean army “killed 41,400 North Vietnamese Army soldiers and 5,000 civilians.”

    For reference, estimated total number of civilian casualties of Vietnam war was 2,000,000 Vietnamese, 700,000 Cambodians, 50,000 Laotians. US force is estimated to have committed democidal killing from a range of between 4,000 and 10,000. As a result of herbicidal warfare program, “Vietnam’s government claimed that 400,000 people were killed or maimed as a result of after effects, and that 500,000 children were born with birth defects.”

    During Vietnam war, SK army also supported civilians with medical treatment of 3,523,364 civilians, 19,640 tons of food supply, 46,1764 pieces of clothes, building 3,319 houses and class rooms, 132 bridges, 394 km roads, teaching Taekwondo to 902,060 Vietnamese, 6,848 festive events for elders and children, 2,304 entertaining performances.

  • stereo

    >”forced labor of Koreans, Chinese, and Allied POWs ”

    As far as I know, Korea was fighting WW2 with Japan, and there were no Korean POWs in Japan. China was a major member of Allied Powers. I do not know why you single out China from other members of Allied Powers. Probably, it is because the skin color of Chinese is different.

    During the war, all adult Japanese had the obligation to work for the military factories. That was called “white
    draft”, because the summon letter was written on a white piece of paper, as opposed to “red draft” which was the order to join army as a soldier and was written on red paper. Yes, it was forced labor, if you say so. Koreans were Japanese citizens at that time and they were treated equally. At the same time, all Japanese companies had the obligation to accept white draftees and make them work for the military. WW2 was national effort in any country. I do not think they could do differently.

    Are you surprised of forced labor of POWs? Any country does that, including all Allied Powers during WW2. The right of forcing POWs to work is written in the Hague Convention.

  • http://profiles.google.com/dcmusicfreak DC Musicfreak

    You’ve got a perverse form of tu quoque (il)logic going on here. I can’t tell if it’s intentional or

  • platethief

    Why am i not surprised the mention of South Korean war crimes would be an issue for you.

    I think you have more in common with the reactionary Japanese war‐crime deniers and apologists than youll ever realise.

  • bumfromkorea

    You got your party all mixed up. There’s no Korean where you’re looking.

  • bumfromkorea

    Well, hey. As long as Japan apologized.

  • platethief

    I’ll give you an easy to follow analogy: It’s like a German person complaining about Russia’s treatment of Poland prior to the start of the WWII, only for a Russian person to argue that the Nazis killed more, therefore mention of Russian atrocities are unworthy of mention.

  • que337

    The apologies of SK presidents were made after SK and Vietnam governments’ joint studies on civilian killing by SK force. Three cases were officially recognized, but compensation offer was rejected by Vietnam government for the aforementioned reasons. I think SK presidents’ apologies were sincere and SK’s willing to further atone for the wrong was understood by Vietnamese. No denial was involved.

    Has any official joint studies on crimes during war and colonial period been conducted or cooperated by Japanese government?

  • Hitokiri 1989

    Not sure if your Japanese or another Wapanese wannabe, but mistreatment of POWS was pretty much exclusive to the Germans and Japanese during WW2. Yes using POW labor is not outlawed by the Hague Convention but it is when it is used for military purposes. Since Japan used POWs for building airfields in South East Asia and working in war-related industries in Japan, it violated the Convention.

  • Hitokiri 1989

    Indeed, I also stumbled upon that when reading a history of Vietnam. I am more astonished about how little fuss is made about that today. MY guess is that the Vietnamese wish to move on from that period and considering Vietnam now has less than a cosy relationship with China, it would be wise for them not to antagonize possible allies

  • yangachibastardo

    Fuckin’ empire of bananas…don’t they have anything else to do, like trying to fix one of the most doomed and crumbling economis in the world ?

  • Chukathe japanese

    No assuming. It is the fact. Those Japanese petitioners do not care about the truth. They are no Americans. Let ‘s face the fact. Do not insult common sense!!!

  • yankdownunder

    Maybe hit up a National Assemblyman?????? or two to see if we can get an ad into the New York Times claiming Japanese-Americans voluntarily moved to the desert during World War II, where they were encouraged to move by Japanese-American real estate agents

    Executive Order 9066

    It’s a fact. Whereas your and your rr claim is fiction.

  • s529599

    gfy please. waste of space

  • stereo

    Oh, you forget to mention German POW mistreatment by UK soldiers and POW mistreatment in general by Russians and Chinese. They were not prosecuted in war tribunals just because they won.

    Using POWs for building airfields, rail road or manufacturing weapons and ammunitions is perfectly OK in international law. No one was prosecuted for so doing in WW2, which sets good precedent for such cases.

  • platetheif

    ‘The apologies of SK presidents were made…I think SK presidents’ apologies were sincere’.

    Oh, the irony.

  • que337
  • que337

    Here is an advice to Mr. Abe Shinzo from Jennifer Lind, “an associate professor of government at College and a faculty associate at the Reischauer Institute for Japanese Studies at Harvard University.”:

    http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentaries/188478131.html?refer=y

  • dolphin888

    Comfort Women were mostly japanese.
    http://real7777.wordpress.com/war/comfort-women/
    1-2% were abducted by a criminal japanese solder when things
    deteriorated toward end of ww2. When USA troops raped like 50,000
    just in first month of occupying japan, prostitution stations was
    created to reduce rape but no GI was punished. People
    need to learn a fair perspective instead of distorted propaganda.

    http://wp.me/P43M0E-2H
    USA, Japan, Korea used a military prostitution and had atrocities.