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  • judge judy

    1st.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    As the new year begins and we stand in the month of Janus (that two-faced bitch …sorry, I’m back), I want to take my positional post to reflect on the past year, look forward to the new, and apologize to anyone whom I have offended on these boards.  Even though I thought some offending posts, despite their abbiguity, were clearly written in jest, plain ASCII text does not or my poor writing skills failed to convey the wink, wink, nudge, nudge that I thought was obvious from myside of the keyboard.  I never intended to slight, belittle, or offend anyone.

    I particularly want to apolozige to one M’Holer whom I went off on.  As half the posters here think “he’s talking about me”, I remember making some particularly nasty remarks in an online debate.  I have often posted that I am only interested in ideas, and I attacked the poster’s presentation viciously, without ambiguity, and humorlessly.  If the poster’s ideas and presentation were so offensive, other’s should have recognized them as such.  If not, then my comments were all the more wrong.

    There’s a lot of nastiness in the world, and cyberworld seems particularly prone to such.  I don’t want nastiness to be my contribution to my communities, online or otherwise.  I have given my fair share of door-in-face shots, but none were made with meanness.  If I thought that the bits would distress anyone, I would not have made them.  That’s also my pledge going forward into the new year.

  • bumfromkorea

    Holy crap.  How did this even happen? I don’t think I’ve ever seen the Wachowskis speak publicly for that long before.

  • Ryu
  • Cloudfive

    Looking forward to this episode. The Wachowskis spoke at length at their Toronto Film Festival press conference. Lana obviously feels much more comfortable with herself as a woman. Korean variety shows usually tape for hours, so this could be interesting.

  • yankdownunder

    During its successful campaign for the Dec. 16 parliamentary election, Mr. Abe’s party eagerly tapped nationalistic emotions
    stoked by the territorial disputes. And during her own campaign for
    South Korea’s Dec. 19 presidential election, Ms. Park, like all her
    predecessors, vowed not to show weakness in the disputes with Japan.

    During its successful campaign for the Dec. 16 parliamentary election, Mr. Abe  vowed not to show weakness in the  territorial disputes. And during her own campaign for
    South Korea’s Dec. 19 presidential election, Ms. Park, like all her
    predecessors, tapped nationalistic emotions stoked by the disputes with Japan.

    Mr. Abe, a right-wing politician whose nationalist comments had often
    enraged South Koreans, returned as prime minister after his party’s landslide election victory in December. Ms. Park, a conservative, is to be inaugurated next month.

    Mr. Abe, a conservative, returned as prime minister after his party’s landslide election victory in December. Ms. Park, a a right-wing politician whose nationalist comments had often
    enraged South Koreans, is to be inaugurated next month.

    Please no more of  NYT  biased rhetoric. The reporters should just  print the facts and not their prejudices.

  • PortaJohn

    Any opinions on what Google is doing in North Korea?

  • Horace Jeffery Hodges

    New Year’s Resolution: If I can just overcome my conceit, I’ll be perfect.

    Jeffery Hodges

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  • http://www.gofundme.com/1k98a8 Jakgani

     The Ministry for Food, Agriculture, and Fisheries announced on December 27 that, nationwide, pets must be registered with animal organizations chosen by local civic organizations beginning January 1.

    anyone know?  Does this only apply to dogs kept as pets – or also to cats?

    In 10 months – I plan on taking my cat to the USA – where she can spend the rest of her life and get out of this rat-race.  So for me to register her here – would be a waste of time.

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    Taking a flyer on maybe finding some smart programmers for cheap.

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    Brooklyn Burger Joint in Seorae-maeul, COEX, and Apgujeong is amazing. W15,000 for a burger and fries may seem steep but this is a first-rate burger made with supreme attention to detail. In Seorae-maeul there were people freezing their asses off outside waiting an hour to get in. Go eat one. That is all.

  • que337

    In 2009 election, Hatoyama Yukio and Democratic Party started with 72.0% and 47.6% support, respectively.  In 2012, Abe Shinzo and LDP starts with 62.2% and 34.3% support.  Considering short span of popularity of prime ministers, let’ s see how far Abe could go. PGH, at least , has solid five years to go.

  • BobbyMcG

     With a little less belly-stabbing.

  • Cloudfive

    With a little less belly-stabbing.

    Which reminds me, I stumbled upon a fantastic film by Masaki Kobayashi recently on youtube – “Harakiri(1962). Highly recommend it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnEGP77vgqY

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6KFMIOLXZTCWEEJ3GF3YIAZIJ4 mightymouse

    Maybe they want to introduce Gangnam Style there. 

  • yankdownunder

     http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/park-geun-hye-win-shifts-south-korea-rightwards/story-e6frg6so-1226541398412

    Park Geun-hye win shifts South Korea rightwards

    “… who becomes the country’s first female leader …”

    PGH, at least , has solid five years of presidency.
    Wishful thinking or do you mean Park Chung-hee,
    the President  from 1961 to 1979?  A solid 18 years!

  • HSchmidt

    Has Park Geun Hye banned the mail order bride industry yet?

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    15,000 for a burger? You could make a burger just as good at home for way less.

  • weiguk

     She has apparently banned the kids centers that all the major shopping outlets provide, because..it costs too much money for parents. Instead they have to make special hagwons instead to provide all those classes.

  • Thedrew

    http://youtu.be/rvoBCr7E5qo

    Eddie Murphy agrees about house made burgers

  • Sanshinseon

    Thanks for sayin’ that Joe; you’re a stand-up guy.  
    A bit more civility on these comment threads would be a worthy goal for this year overall… 

  • keyinjpop
  • Koreandumbdumb

    I do not think you are talking about me but even if you do I did not get offended since I did my share of shelling.   The other guy should not feel bad because he was brilliant in his explanation of economy and how it work, including my favorite term, the paradox of Thrifty.

  • Koreandumbdumb

    Argo is a great movie and I recommend everyone to see it especially you have gone through Iranian hostage crisis.   A real history and a man’s heroic effort to save his fellow human beings in the throes of madness called Revolution.   On the other hand, Django was forgettable.   Another Tarantino waste-of-time.   I hope there should be some racial violence caused by this movie and Mr.Tarantino should go to jail for pumping out garbage that incite violence.  Sort of like what Komeini or MaoTzeTzeFly did.

  • Ryu

    HJH –

    Well, the important thing is sincerity. Once you can fake that nothing can stop you.

  • http://www.gofundme.com/1k98a8 Jakgani

     I recommend everyone to see it especially you have gone through Iranian hostage crisis.

    yeah.. I have gone through a couple of Iranian hostage crises. 

    Thanks for recommending the film – am downloading it now.

  • Jang

     But you keep choosing to “waste your time” and giving him your money.  If you were so offended by the violence why didn’t you walk out?  Django Unchained is on it’s way to a better box office than Argo, it had a better opening weekend and in just 2 weeks has sold about $65 million compared to Argo’s $105 million in 3 months and Argo was showing at more theaters.  Here is a free listen to the soundtrack which Quinten DJ’s – http://www.movieweb.com/news/listen-to-the-full-django-unchained-soundtrack-with-quentin-tarantino-commentary

  • cactusmcharris

     Brendon, have you had Five Guys yet? About the same price, but no line to wait fashionably in.

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    Yes, I have had Five Guys. I have had to fly to New York City or St. Louis the two previous times I’ve had Five Guys. That seemed impractical yesterday morning, when I decided I wanted a burger, as it would raise the price to W15,000,000.

    Five Guys was terrific, although the portion sizes were excessive. (Hey, it’s America, where we make the fat people!) My next Five Guys visit I’m getting a grilled frank with bacon, Dijon mustard, and cheese sauce.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Agreed on the portion sizes. I had it in Houston when I was there on a business trip last August. The burger was good, but the amount of fries they give is way over the top. I just ended up not eating the fries and throwing out a bag-full.

  • Jang

      “people freezing their asses off outside waiting an hour to get in. Go eat one(W15,000 burger).”
    Even if I lived nearby I wouldn’t do what those people did.  The freezing wait is enough for me NOT to “go eat one.”  This weekend I had a Lotte prepared rack of ribs for W10,000 and I didn’t have to wait in a long line while freezing my behind.

  • babotaengi

    15k won for a good burger doesn’t sound too steep. 10k for a “Lotte prepared” anything does.

    I’m sure I could prepare a good burger myself for at most half of 15k, but the hour it would cost me in prep and clean up time is worth way more to me than 7,500 won.

  • Koreandumbdumb

    Before this blog turns into fat people’s dick fest(just cut off the nuts when you have chance – my take on Django) I will tell you a strange tale happening in Korea.  It has to do with the most famous Korean actress, JinSil(Truth) Choi.   This is what happened officially.
    1) Choi’s friend’s husband borrowed money from Choi’s sponsor(?) and could not pay back, he commits suicide.
    2)Choi commits suicide.
    3)Choi’s brother commits suicide.
    4) Choi’s ex commits suicide.

    Is it crazy or what?  suicide orgy?  Korean nuts?  Something in the water?
    You figure.  I say Yakuza.
     

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    And what is it worth to you to have 100% control over the ingredients? I don’ trust restaurants, Im sure they are all skimping on good ingredients and putting in crap and preparing it un cheap and unhealthy ways. besides, making people wait is the height of asshollery. If you want to wait and freeze your nuts just to give these jokers your money, go for it.

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    Speaking of quality, I was amazed to see that the kitchen had a side of beef there, and that hunks of meat and fat were being ground up intermittently to make into patties which were immediately thrown onto the grill. In other words, fresh fresh fresh.

    The reason people stood around in the freezing cold for an hour is not that the restaurant “made us wait”, it’s that there were more people hankering to eat the product prepared by Brooklyn Burger Joint than there were tables in the restaurant. Demand exceeds supply. It looks to me that this restaurant was started without a lot of capital, but I hope it helps the owner pile up a lot of capital.

  • Cloudfive

     

    I don’t trust restaurants; Im sure they are all skimping on good
    ingredients and putting in crap and preparing it in cheap and unhealthy
    ways. Besides, making people wait is the height of asshollery. If you
    want to wait and freeze your nuts just to give these jokers your money,
    go for it.

    I hope this is tongue-in-cheek, or else you have no experience dining in top restaurants. Half the fun of city life is being where others want to be, getting a table that others have to reserve months ahead for, getting into a sold-out show and seeing a movie on opening night. Stop making your wife have “100% control over the ingredients and methods of preparation” and take her out for a good meal.

  • Keith

    I appreciate a good burger as much as the next man, a good burger can be a thing of wonder and doesn’t have to be junk food. But I wouldn’t hang around outside to go in a restaurant in this weather for any food, it’s horrible out there. Burgers are just like any other food, they can be great if done well, they can be disgusting if done wrong. I think I’d rather starve than eat any of that muck at Lotteria! Lotteria are so bad that they make McDonald’s places seem almost like fine dining and I’ll only ‘eat’ at a McDonalds if I’m starving and in a real hurry. MD’s is more like ‘low quality body fuel’ than food.

    I remember going to a really good ‘fire chicken’ place in Hongdae just after it opened and it was busy, but we still got a table no problem. This fire chicken place was far better than any other spicy chicken place we’d tried and we vowed to come back soon. A few weeks later we go there again and it’s heaving and there are no tables (it’s also freezing) we ask them how long and they say about half an hour, but we could go on their list if we liked and they’d text us when they had a table available. We went to the bar next door had a drink, and they texted us 25 minutes later saying that our table was ready. That’s good service, not making people wait in the cold!

    It always mystifies me when I see huge lines outside ‘trending’ restaurants in Korea. If it’s popular at least set up a bloody reservation system or something. It’s bizarre that anyone would wait outside in this cold for an hour for a burger no matter how good it is. Then I’m also puzzled by the morons who wait outside stores all night just to buy some shiny new Apple gizmo or other such shit, it’s like they have a deep masochistic streak in them or something.

  • Cymrodor
  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    Well, that’s you, man. I didn’t mind so much. There were a total of 20 seats in the restaurant, and 60 of us who wanted to eat. i hardly think that constitutes some abuse by the restaurant.

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    I went to the butchers ang got 3 lbs of fresh ground sirloin, went home and ground 3lbs of hotel quality smoked thick cut bacon, mixed the two, made patties, grilled them on the barbie and am now in heaven

  • YangachiBastardo

    I’ve seen college-age girls camping outside for days to get the front row at a Super Junior concert 

  • YangachiBastardo

    But the “Welcome to Houston, Honey” that generally comes with the burger is a very nice add-on :)

  • babotaengi

    I don’t worry too much about the ingredients of restaurant food. That’s the immune system’s department.

  • Jieun K

    A lot of you may have already heard of the horrendous sexual assault in India. Now the brave father of the victim wants the world to know her name to “give courage to other women who have survived such attacks.”

    May she truly rest in peace.

    The death penalty should either be reinstated or executed for these kinds of unspeakable crimes. We simply can’t afford to sustain life of wretched humans who inflict such bestiality on another.

  • YangachiBastardo

    Completely agree 

  • Anonymous_Joe

    “A lot of you may have already heard of the horrendous sexual assault in India. Now the brave father of the victim wants the world to know her name to ‘give courage to other women who have survived such attacks.’ “

    The world should know her name, for neither she nor her family have reason for shame.  People should know that she lived and that not another nameless, faceless brutally died.  If I were in a position to help, I would.  I still hope that in some small way I can.

  • Ryu

    “(just cut off the nuts when you have chance – my take on Django”

    Wow, that’s an interesting perspective. Did you share your take on the film with any of the 40% audience who were African-American?

  • babotaengi

    I think most African-Americans would agree they’d have saved ‘em selves a whole lot a trouble if they’d done as he said.

    Django was a hoot.

  • JW

    I found this interview with Chang Ha-Joon and a co-author of one of this books (쾌도난마 한국경제) to be very educational and easy to understand. It’s in Korean. The money paragraph in my view is 

    “그러나 지금 우리가 냉정하게 봐야 하는 현실은, 한국은 식민지 경험을 가진 나라이며, 지금도 세계 최강의 열강들에게 둘러싸여 있다는 겁니다. 우리나라가 정말 분배와 환경만 강조하다가 경제 성장에서 뒤처지고 만 다면 20년쯤 뒤엔 중국이 국권을 위협하는 사태가 일어나지 않는다고 장담할 수 없다는 거죠.”

    Rough translation: Koreans should not forget that their country is one that has a history of being colonized with great superpowers surrounding it even to this day. If we only focus on alleviating income inequality and as a result fall behind on economic growth, it may increase the risk that 20 years from now China will threaten the sovereignty of our country.

    http://sedo.or.kr/board/board_pds/pds_54/C108.pdf

  • Buyook

    Maybe north will learn how to eliminate people without wasting bullets. BTW what business did he have to borrow money from Choi’s sponsor?
    Crazy. Just crazy.

  • pius_13

    Korea was colonized on two occasions one after woman Choson fell and the other in the first half of the 20th century. This over the last 3000 years I’d say Korea did pretty well despite several other times that it was reduced to being tributaries. I think the danger is the younger generation forgetting the lessons as to how Korea was taken over by Japan.

  • Horace Jeffery Hodges

    I’m headed that way . . .
    Jeffery Hodges

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6KFMIOLXZTCWEEJ3GF3YIAZIJ4 mightymouse

    Sad. Really sad. Super Junior is not worth it. Not even standing in line for one second.

  • Koreandumbdumb

    He was an entertainer.  He borrowed money to promote himself and his entertainment company.   Just like any Korean business man, he may have hidden some money.   He put small coal pieces in his car and closed all windows.  Popular Korean suicide method.  Yet, no one saw his death.   A plenty chance to kill him using other method and throw him in the car with coal pieces.   

  • Koreandumbdumb

    I see the need to balance the growth and the welfare.   The typical battlecry from the Republicans and the Dems.   However, just imagine French Revolution in Korea.   The Wealthy in Korea’d better watch out.   It will not be China but Korean poor who will rise to kill the rich.   So, dole out what you got.   In South America, it is so bad that the rich can only travel through helicopters.   If they drive through regular road. the poor will kill and rape them.   Just imagine Korea turning into that situation.  The poor become desperate when they cannot eat.

  • Koreandumbdumb

    The Europeans and Americans may say “look at these uneducated heathens”.  But these Indians are just playing out their “nature”.  This is what humans are.  We are sinners.   Only through Jesus, we are saved and forgiven.   And, Jesus is leaving from America.   Soon, these white folks will not be much different from these Indians.   Meanwhile, Koreans will become Jesus people, “born-again Christians”.  Hallelujah.   Jesus has decided so, no one can change this.  Obama is not even trying and Americans want no God in their lives.  Finito.  Koreans will carry Christian flag from now on.

  • Koreandumbdumb

    I am watching “World Without End”(Ken Follett) in Netflix through Roku.  Can you do this in Korea?  Netflix?  Roku?  This series is different from “Pillars of the Earth”.  Ken became non-Christian?   Much more garbage dissing Christianity here.  Maybe Ken changed his book to sell to non-Christian Americans?  I thinks so.  When I am sure that is the case, I will stop watching Ken’s product.   I have no time to waste on garbages put out by  druggies and sex-maniacs(=heathens)..

  • Ryu

    Sorry I don’t understand what you’re trying to say. 

  • que337

    It is quite simplistic interpretation to place PGH as a counterpart politician of Abe.  IMHO, PGH’s leadership would not repeat her father’s path as she wisely started her campaign with visiting her father’s political opponents.  Her vision is constructive in that she pursues politics of healing from the past.  Unlike PGH, Abe seems to plan to orchestrate the retrograde politics, again.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    bullshit. If demand is so high, then they should expand their premises. But they don’t because making you wait allows them to jack up prices since they seem exclusive.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    That may be fun for the shallow person whose whole self-identity is derived in relation to others; from others: what others do, think, want, creates such a person, fills the empty vessel…you, for example..he knows what to like and what not to like, when to be happy, what the good life is not from within but from without.

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    There’s so much you don’t understand.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Theres only one thing I dont understand: why you care so much about a total stranger’s success.

  • pius_13

    There needs to be more of this. These acts are more like puppets to their agencies. I think the closest analogy I can come up with from N.America is the studio system.

  • Cloudfive

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  • pius_13

    Kim yun-a just won the national championship a.k.a. the Kim yun-a show. I think her impact of the sport will probably be felt by increasing number of girls who will probably picking up the sport.

    As I remember in Japan’s case back in the 80′s midori into was the first big success that the Japanese had and she was followed by succession of women that won world championship. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem that is not going to be the case for Korea maybe within the next 5-10 years this will be felt. I don’t expect Korea to have similar level of success but she has put Korea in the map of the figure skating world as well as raised the bar in Korea.

  • babotaengi

    It’s pretty simple: one enjoys a dude’s burgers, thus one hopes he’s motivated to continue making them with the same level of quality so that one may continue enjoying them.

  • babotaengi

    You hope there is racial violence so that Tarantino may be punished? Ask yourself, is that what Jesus would hope for?

  • babotaengi

    I assume you don’t understand because you are commenting from a position of ignorance, having not seen the movie.

  • Wedge1

    I once talked to the Zelen guy about his business. He said the first couple of months he was open it wasn’t crowded at all. He was worried about surviving. Then one day he had a full house and it’s been the same pretty much every day since. Moral of the story? If you are opening a restaurant, once you have the bugs worked out, hire a bunch of people to eat there, even enough that there’s a wait.

  • Koreandumbdumb

    You do not see any connection between what monkeys see and what monkeys do.  I think there is definite connection. Some black teens seeing the movie may think it is OK to shoot white ass to pulp (intentional ref. to his earlier garbage).  It happened already.  When “Roots” played, some black people beat some whiteys.   This time, even white teens feel like blowing up his/her parents for white Americans evil deeds?  What a guilt trip that will be.   This garbage movie shows Django just killing some innocent people.  People who cannot defend themselves.   It shows what Tarantino thinks, just kill everyone.  And, that is cool?   Women and children, because they are white.   The guy is a nut job.   And, you are supporting him.  Long live, Hitler.  Just kill, don’t ask question.  Because I like killing.   F*** that.  F*** Tarantino.  People should know the word, “Responsibility”. That separates humans from animals.

  • Koreandumbdumb

    I even go as far as the movie association and the president and the congress ban the movie and kick Tarantino out of the country.   I know movie-makers will scream.  But, what has to be done has to be done.   I bet Korea will either deny admission or cut out the unnecessary violence.  Then, maybe not.  There are some anti-american Commies in those commissions.  Those Commies should deny admission of this movie to Korea.   Isn;t it ironic that Hollywood will work to bring this movie (“kill whitey message”) to Korea?  To have Korean youth think kill Whitey KKKs.  Especially American white asses?   What a irony!   Russians used to say Americans would sell their mothers if price is right.  Maybe Russians knew something.

  • dogbertt

    I love seeing baduki getting all worked up about nothing.  Go chase your tail some more, baduki.

  • dogbertt

     I guess you didn’t hear your “True Father” died. 

  • Koreandumbdumb

    This is what America has become.  A non-Christian country.  In the old movies, a hero killed another person only out of self-defense.  The only exception is wartime situation.  Even there, a hero always regrets killing.   However, in Asian movies, two factions fight each other and killing is honored and killers are promoted without any remorse.   Tarantino is a heathen.  His work promotes madness.   He likes Japanese Manga and his god is a Japanese god.  Kill and Survive at all cost.  Even kill your parents and your mentor to survive..  He is a Japanese at heart.  Revenge is everything.  Just kill anybody, even innocent people, to get your revenge.  What a f***-ed up child!

  • Koreandumbdumb

    I believe it if you say so, since you are the expert on the subject.   Nah, I am a rebellious child.  Always have been.  Since most whiteys and most people on earth now agree with you, I will reject that notion.   I am a trail-blazer.  I say God lives and Jesus will come back to judge the world and every human being who has ever been born to this planet.  Hallelujah, praise His Name.

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    This garbage movie shows Django just killing some innocent people.  People who cannot defend themselves.   It shows what Tarantino thinks, just kill everyone.  And, that is cool?   Women and children, because they are white.   The guy is a nut job.   And, you are supporting him.  Long live, Hitler.  Just kill, don’t ask question.  Because I like killing.   F*** that.  F*** Tarantino.  People should know the word, “Responsibility”. That separates humans from animals.

    And then the Hollywood gang turns around and advocates taking freedoms away from responsible people. 

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    It’s pretty simple: one enjoys a dude’s burgers, thus one hopes he’s motivated to continue making them with the same level of quality so that one may continue enjoying them.

    How sinister, right? Plus there’s the added conspiracy factor: I know that among the Marmot’s Hole readership there are many likely burger-eaters, and I want them to know about a good burger, so that they may find enjoyment as well. What a bastard.

  • babotaengi

    Everyone Django killed was either a wanted killer or complicit in the abuse of slaves. He didn’t kill any children and I’m pretty sure he only killed one woman. How you infer the message “Kill whitey” from that, I have no idea. “Kill racists” would be ann equally simplistic but more reasonable inferrence

  • dogbertt

     Then why did you watch it, dumb dumb? 

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    So youre promoting the consumption of oily red meat that raises cholesterol levels and also leads to obesity? Why not promote  a good fish house, seeing how fish are full of good polyunsaturated fats that benefit health, not destroy it. SOME PUBLIC SERVICE you’re doing for the MH community!

  • ex_commander

    Schizophrenia is sad to behold.

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    consumption of oily red meat that raises cholesterol levels and also leads to obesity

    Referencing the obesity for dummies one-liner based on 60 year old Junk science -thank you Dr Jean Mayer and the Pharma producers of all the expensive drugs your “research” made to seem plausible and who funded your work- that has been thoroughly debunked – really goes well with that nasty argument for argument’s sake disposition you have

  • http://www.facebook.com/DonotLetThemEatMe Craash Beck

    the old charcoal in the car trick….?

    Koreans copying Japanese – I am sure it was a Japanese lady who invented that method.Carbon monoxide is NOT good ways to die… 

    A scientist that was looking for a humane way to kill livestock built a “Gas Chamber” to experiment on pigs and he put the pig in with a basket of apples then shut the door.

    They then sucked out the oxygen and replaced it with a number of different gasses and watched what the pig did.

    When they pumped in carbon monoxide, the pig FREAKED OUT… So they stopped pumping in the carbon monoxide and replaced the oxygen and the pig calmed down.

    The brain knows that carbon based gasses are BAD so it make you freak!

    They repeated the test with the pig, never killing it, with a huge number of gasses and when they tried it with Nitrogen, the pig stood there, eating apples, passed out, then when they pumped oxygen back in to the chamber, the pig woke up, looked around, then went back to eating apples like nothing had happened.

    Nitrogen Hypoxia is the most humane way to kill a living, oxygen breathing, creature because the air contains 79% nitrogen (we breathe it all the time) so the brain doesn’t realize that it is being oxygen starved.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Out of curiosity, provide a link that this has been 100% debunked and that there is no longer any controversy on this subject. Until then, I will stick to fish and eat red meat only sporadically.

  • Django

    “Django Unchained” on pace to be Tarantino’s biggest box office film ever – http://news.yahoo.com/django-unchained-pace-tarantinos-biggest-box-office-film-033102344.html
    That’s right, if the trend holds, the blood-soaked slave-revenge fable will rack up more at the box office than “Pulp Fiction” ($213.9 million worldwide).
    Box Office Report: ‘Django’ Beats ‘Hobbit’ for No. 1 Wednesday, Sets Up Close Weekend – Django has earned $82.4 +million since its Christmas Day. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/django-unchained-beats-hobbit-no-408110

  • Jieun K

    What came of the bank bailout by the U.S. government over the past four years?

    This is a virtual repeat of the financial crisis . . . . Now the government, with its Implicit Guarantee, is causing exactly the same behavior – meaning the bailouts have brought us right back to where we started.

    [...]

    So what exactly did the bailout accomplish? . . . . The bailout has also made lying on behalf of our biggest and most corrupt banks the official policy of the United States government . . . . we’re essentially wedded to that policy for the rest of eternity – or at least until the markets call our bluff, which could happen any minute now.

    Read it here.

  • YangachiBastardo

    Sperwer: THANK YOU, a whole life spent as a big olive oil carnivore here (surprising eh !) and i still kick ass :)

  • YangachiBastardo

     In the old movies, a hero killed another person only out of self-defense.  The only exception is wartime situation.  Even there, a hero always regrets killing.   However, in Asian movies, two factions fight each other and killing is honored and killers are promoted without any remorse

    THAT’s exactly the reason why i love modern Asian entertainment 

  • http://profiles.google.com/dcmusicfreak DC Musicfreak

    One of those Aussies was (a rather plump) Tarantino himself.

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    See Gary Taubes’ thorough exposition of the science, with all references, in Good Calories, Bad Calories

  • http://kuiwon.wordpress.com/ Kuiwon

    Django was a good movie and had me laughing from the start, starting with, “1858, two years before the start of the Civil War.” 

  • Horace Jeffery Hodges

    Brendon Ca(t)rr(h), you bastard! You’ve got me not just informed about a good burger but actually craving one!

    How much did they pay you . . .

    Jeffery Hodges

    * * *

  • http://profiles.google.com/dcmusicfreak DC Musicfreak

    Thanks, just ordered a copy on Amazon.

  • Jang

    Tours to Gangnam bomb despite massive PR from hit song http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2013010826648
    The tour guide left the group and could(sic) NOT speak English well. “Lack of advertising meant just 50 packages were sold and just 20 visitors went on the Gangnam tour.”

  • JW

    Hmnn, a hamburger gets a C+ nutritional grade from About.com.  It’s definitely higher than I expected. But the strong association between red, processed meats and heart disease is enough circumstantial evidence for me to stay away as much as possible.

    http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-hamburger-regular-single-patty-i21109

  • flyingsword

    How do pieces of coal in a car kill?  I am confused.  Why didn’t he just close a room and turn a fan on?

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    Why am I not surprised that JW forms his views on the basis of a source like About.com?

  • JW

    Hey man, I use it as a rough 2 second guide to assessing nutritional value. Get off my back ya jerk.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Gary Taubes has a diet plan to sell ya, and books galore. Im not sure he’s very impartial, or honest. He is right about carbs but I would still stay away from red meat as much possible and substitute with fresh fish and lean chicken. That said I do not abstain from red meat totally, but I have cit down a lot on it.

  • YangachiBastardo

    I live on mixed salads (just veggies with extra virgin olive oils, no weird dressings), lots of red meat (every day) , no carb, no dairy products and very few sweets. Basically i subsist on a steak&salad, marinated or otherwise, diet and some fruit for breakfast and i still feel very strong, stronger than i’ve ever been…except that my bones tend to break very often, this year i fucked my right foot twice and my left middle finger, life is a bitch 

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    Taubes’ ” diet plan” is a handful of pages of common sense conclusions at the end of a closely-argued, exhaustively documented 640 page book. He’s not peddling a proprietary diet product or even the plan as such. Taubes has degrees in aerospace engineering from Harvard and Princeton. Taubes has won the Science in Society Journalism Award of the National Association of Science Writers three times and was awarded an MIT Knight Science Journalism Fellowship for 1996-97.[7] He is a Robert Wood Johnson Foundation independent investigator in health policy.Taubes has won the Science in Society Journalism Award of the National Association of Science Writers three times and was awarded an MIT Knight Science Journalism Fellowship for 1996-97. He is a Robert Wood Johnson Foundation independent investigator in health policy.

    It’s good to be suspicious, but only if you go on and do the research. Otherwise, you just end up subdtituting one version of misinformed conventional “wisdom” for another.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    the 640 page book seems to be a proporietary product…
    Again, Im not disputing what Taubes is saying as his main message is :Carbs are the culprits. Im just saying that instead of a beef steak, have a salmon steak, avoid the bacon and try lean chicken. Fats are good, but Id prefer the unsaturated kinds ovet the saturated ones.

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    Of course the book is a proprietary product. It’s just not the sort of diet scam you were trying to hang around Taubes’ neck in your knee-jerk ad hominem characterization of him as a diet huckster

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2EFEO2XXKIUQCBV5TF2E74GIEI Jason

    Ok, since we’re talking about higher priced burgers, I only have two words: Umami Burger. That is all.

  • http://kuiwon.wordpress.com/ Kuiwon

    http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2013/01/04/did-cranky-consumers-force-yahoo-out-of-korea/
    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2013/01/133_128128.html

    Has this been covered on Marmot? I though Yahoo was still big in Korea, but then again, I haven’t used Yahoo Korea in a long time.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    so is it another kind of diet scam?

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    Grow up and come back when you’ve actually looked at the book and learned how to talk with adults

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Are you an adult? I’m sorry to have questioned your guru, but its not healthy to be part of a personality cult.

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    Actually, I don’t much like Taubes. In his polemical writing he comes off as more than a bit of a prick – like you. Unlike you, though, he also makes well-thought out arguments with plenty of evidentiary support, instead of throwing shit around his playpen in the delusionary belief that he’s accomplished something besides getting his hands dirty.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    thats all good but you are avoiding the question: WHY RED MEAT AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE? Maybe youre a red meat shill, too.

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    That’s the first time you’ve asked the question. You started out with an unqualified and unsubstantiated trashing of red meat on grounds that have long been debunked. I just pointed that out and supplied the requested reference – which elicited a lot of ad hominem crap from you. I don’t have any particular brief for red meat or against any other food, except starchy carbs, sugars and processed foods of any kind. I eat red meat, pork, chicken, fish, milk, cheese, vegetables and, on big days in the gym, plain baked sweet potatoes. I don’t eat grains or grain products except occasionally.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Ive asked that question on several occassions in this thread. Though at last you provide an answer. I would still contend that fish are a superior source of proteins and fats than red meat and that a diet heavier on protein sources with unsaturated fats are better for your health than those with saturated fats.

    Many sources of information seem to have missed the memo and still advise against consuming high amounts of red meat. So it seems nothing has really been debunked, yet.

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    Many sources of information also still say that God created the universe in 6 days…

  • Hardy and Tiny

    Didn’t Jesus already come back?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6KFMIOLXZTCWEEJ3GF3YIAZIJ4 mightymouse

    I don’t know. I guess we will have to wait another 2000 years to see. 

  • wangkon936
  • http://kuiwon.wordpress.com/ Kuiwon
  • Cloudfive

    Who else is looking forward to the Lakers vs Rockets game today?

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Now you’re doing what you accusse me of doing. You are willing to dismiss all the counter arguments out of hand and you only really have invectives as arguments and vague “its been dbunked years ago” statements. But these are not just some fringe sources that maintain that there IS a link between red meat and heart disease and cancer, but quite well reputed ones.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/health/research/red-meat-linked-to-cancer-and-heart-disease.html?_r=0
    http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/the-truth-about-red-meat
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102306407
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nancy-deville/red-meat-cancer_b_1346229.html
    http://www.nhs.uk/news/2012/03march/Pages/red-meat-diet-death-risk.aspx

    And really many other links that point to new studies establishing new links. On the other hand there are studies that claim there is no link. All we can say is that there is doubt and nothing has been fully debunked.

    So I return to my original question: if you have a choice between a salmon steak and a beef steak, knowing that there is no real consensus on the safety of consuming foods high in saturated fats, why would you keep that as a significant part of your diet? Im not teling you to give it up completely, mind you, but simply to eat it once in a while and to chose protein sources that are not full of saturated fats.

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    PS, Salaryman, many observant people have become skeptical of the word “consensus” as a substitute for persuasion. I know that I personally tune out the moment consensus is deployed.

  • Django

    But he didn’t say there was a “consensus,” he said there wasn’t.  And the word wasn’t used until the end of his comment so whether you waited until then to “tune out” really doesn’t matter since you got the jist.

  • http://www.bcarr.com/ Brendon Carr

    Sorry, can’t be bothered. I’m still zoned out because of “consensus”. Zzzzzzz.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Thanks for that useless tidbit. Call it agreement, then. In fact I would venture to say that there is probably more studies pointing to a link between red meat and cancer and/or heart disease then studies debunking such a link. Safest thing to say is that we simply cannot be sure. Its risky. Why then would someone take the risk instead of minimizing it as much as possible? Why beef steak over a salmon steak?

  • CactusMcHarris

     A grumpy cat with an anal abscess? Check.

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    Now you’re doing what you accusse me of doing. You are willing to dismiss all the counter arguments out of hand and you only really have invectives as arguments and vague “its been dbunked years ago” statements. But these are not just some fringe sources that maintain that there IS a link between red meat and heart disease and cancer, but quite well reputed ones.

    I don’t regard a bunch of superficial newspaper reports about the issue as constituting “counterarguments”.  I have, however, looked at the arguments on both sides in detail.  Although I’ve done so by reading fairly deeply in the actual scientific literature on both sides, one of the benefits of Taubes’ book is that he very fairly states both sides of the argument in a more accessible fashion, which is why I recommended it; I also find it his evidentiary analysis and theoretical arguments convincing.  Despite my having recommended it. in response to your request, however, you seem not to have actually looked at the book, but are content with counting up data apples and oranges in some sort of popularity contest.  If that’s how you think one arrives at a scientifically compelling conclusion and/or like to make decisions about your health, that’s your prerogative.

    I’m a surf and turf guy, so given a choice I’d take both the beef and the salmon, because variety is one of the cornerstones of good nutrition.  If you forced me to choose (as if you could!), I’d take the organic grass fed beef over the farmed, added-hormone-laden salmon. ;))

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    The papers refer to studies.  For example, you would know if you had opened the link:

    NYT to a paper published in the Archives of Internal Medicine.
    WebMD discusses several studies linking red meat to nasty diseases
    HuffPo links directly to a paper published in JAMA Internal medicine. “The study followed about 38,000 middle-aged men for an average of 22 years and 84,000 women for 28 years and concluded that red meat contributes to cancer.”

    If you’re at all interested then you can make the effort to locate the papers and read them.

    So these are not “superficial newspaper reports.”
    I don’t think Im getting into “counting up data apples and oranges in some sort of popularity contest.” I don’t think this is really a contest and if we were to start collecting the apples (pro red meat) and oranges (against it), the oranges would need many more baskets than the apples.

    Youve apparently “looked into” this on a deep level, yet you have provided us with ONE source, a book – with zero peer review. I will not totally dismiss your “source” as lacking any credibiluty whatsoever and you along with it. Any quack with any agenda can publish a book. Provide us with links to actual peer reviewed literature in major journals. If you can’t do that, then you’re not worth an iota of my time.

    and it would be nice if you stopped misrepresenting the case: the counterargument is the one you’re advancing, the argument you’re  countering is the one that links red meat to heart diseas and cancer; an argument made in peer reviewed journals.

    You are still avoiding the question: why do these low carb, high protein and high fat diet pushers (I agree with this part) push red meat and not sources high in protein but with unaturated fats instead of saturated fats? Are they in the pockets of the beef industry? WHY BEEF STEAK OVER SALMON STEAK?

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    You say this isn’t a contest. But then you emphasize your having provided five – count ‘em 5 – references against the ONE (your caps) of mine – once again demonstrating your apparent belief that the validity of a thesis is a function of popularity.

    You also express displeasure because you assume (unjustifiedly) I haven’t looked at your links, or their alleged links- which I find more than a little hypocritical, since its clear you haven’t looked at Taubes’ book, as I suggested, with its literally hundreds of citations to your demanded peer-reviewed literature in major journals.

    So let’s look at your “evidence”.  I stand by my characterization of them as superficial journalistic reports about scientific articles.  But what about the literature that they link to?  Let’s see;  the NYT, NPR and WebMD articles in fact don’t provide links to the actual studies; the HuffPo and UKNHS articles do have links to the same study (which also is the one mentioned in the NYT article), but only to the abstract; the study itself is behind a paywall.  Most interestingly, both the HufPo and the UKNHS article state (what is clear from the abstract) that the study only establishes a correlation between consumption of read meat (which it should be noted included highly processed met products like sausage, bacon, etc – not grass fed beef) and CVD – in another words, no causal link was established; and any claim otherwise is a post hoc propter hoc fallacy.  Indeed the UK’s National Health Service bulletin was quite honest about it, flatly stating (quoting a another news report about the study):  “This study cannot prove that regular consumption of red meat ‘kills”.  The HufPo article also clearly indicates that the study in question is not conclusive.

    It looks like you can’t even be bothered to read your own claimed journalistic evidence let alone the “science” upon which it is based, or the book I suggested.  But still, not having read that book, you simply dismiss it, without any evidence, as having a biased agenda.

    As for your big question, I suggest you read the National Inquirer; you seem to have the same mentality as their target readership.  I’m not aware of anyone trying to force red meat down consumers’ throats, and in any event don’t much care.  I make my own decisions.

    PS:  You were the one who first used “counterargument” to describe the anti-meat position.  I guess you forgot that in your zeal to try to score points.

    PPS:  I’m still interested to hear what you have to say, but if it is of the same tenor and level of dishonesty of your last contribution I will not be taking any more time to respond further.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    You are misrepresenting my position. I am simply saying that, even if no causal link may have been established, there are some large scale studies that do establish a (strong) correlation between red meat consumption and heart disease/cancer. In other words there is reason to have doubt and to be cautious. This is what I am saying and what I have been saying repeatedly. Based on the fact that there is such doubt why would you not design your diet in order to minimize that risk and still get the full benefit of what red meat offers, and more? This is obviously an emotional issue for you…like drugs to a junkie and booze to an alcoholic.

    I have not looked at the book, so if you could humor me, point me to a paper or even simply an abstract of a paper in a top journal that supports your position. I have no intention of looking at this book you keep referring to in the immediate future.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Here is what Taubes wrote in the epilogue: “When I began my research, I had no idea that I would come to believe that obesity is not caused by eating too much, or that exercise is not a means of prevention”

    Now, from my own personal point of view, I have been both fat and very fit. My weight has fluctuated between 73kg and 97kg. The constant has always been diet, what has always changed has been exercise. I was sedentary for much of my life and took up and dropped my weight to 73kg. I then suffered an injury, life got busy and I stopped running and had my weight go up to 85kg or so: not fat but skinny-fat. I then took up cycling and swimming and have seen my weight drop to 75kg currently. My diet has always been pretty much the same, and I always consumed a lot of carbs. In fact, when running and biking carb consumption went up while weight went down. So just from my own personal experience, I cannot fully agree with this conclusion.

  • One for all

    I find it REALLY REALLY REALLy REALly REAlly REally Really really easy to believe you’re Korean :D

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    You are misrepresenting my position. I am simply saying that, even if no causal link may have been established, there are some large scale studies that do establish a (strong) correlation between red meat consumption and heart disease/cancer. In other words there is reason to have doubt and to be cautious. This is what I am saying and what I have been saying repeatedly. Based on the fact that there is such doubt why would you not design your diet in order to minimize that risk and still get the full benefit of what red meat offers, and more? This is obviously an emotional issue for you…like drugs to a junkie and booze to an alcoholic.

    I guess that polluted fish diet of yours doesn’t do much for your short term memory.  Here’s your original statement to which I objected: 

    … oily red meat … raises cholesterol levels and also leads to obesity

    That’s as unqualified a claim about causality as it gets, so stop pretending that you haven’t changed your position now that you are agreeing that there is no proven causal nexus and that your position is that the correlative studies such as the one to which you refer are just a basis for exercising reasonable prudence in food choices.  As I indicated earlier, I also exercise prudence in food choices, by e.g., not eating a lot of toxin-laden fish [ :) ] or processed foods and varying my food sources among meats, fish, vegetables, fruit and low-glycemic carbs.  But because unlike you in your reliance on superficial reports about the big bad wolf meat, I’ve read a lot of the actual studies and a book like Taubes’ that puts it all into perspective for a non-specialist, especially in regards to the theoretical implications of such studies, I have come to the reasonable conclusion that there is not necessarily anything especially to fear about meat.  The only thing that I get emotional about is the sort of stupidity manifest in your original statement and the stubborn resistance of such stupidity to reasonable argument represented by your continued recourse to such insults.  Again I recommend you just read the book whenever you do have the time, since that’s the only way to minimize that you won’t just do the sort of single line cherry-picking in your subsequent post and maximize the possibility that you’ll actually think about things instead of just parroting conventional platitudes. If you were to read the book, you also would find out why the rejection of carbs is well-founded scientifically and not just because of your anecdotal experience. 
     

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Anecdotal evidence is all that counts, since, afterall, the person I have to worry about is me, and only me. If in my case exercise, and not diet, have been the variable that leads to significant weight loss, then what does it matter to me that Taubes claims otherwise? Even if he has 100 studies to back him up? The only person whose results matter to me is me. Now, of course, a better diet would further improve the results, but to flat out claim that exercise offers NO, NONE, NADA benefit in controlling weight seems to me to be the sort of unqualifed claim you so harshly rail against. Seems to me that you are ready to forgive your guru his own moments of hyoperbole.

    Furthermore, there are fish that are not toxin-laden and safe to consume, as safe and maybe even safer than cows that cause your brain to turn liquid, for example;)

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    Anecdotal evidence is all that counts…

    What a remarkably stupid thing to say!  Do you believe the earth revolves around the sun?  Based only on the anecdotal evidence, that’s all one could conclude.  To paraphrase Richard Dawkins – you are the product of 3.8 billion years of evolution.  Start thinking like it…”
    Don’t misunderstand me.  Understanding individual differences is important; bio-mechanical and biochemical individuality (See Roger Williams’ Biochemical Individuality –  are profoundly underappreciated facts, because of the bias of our science towards statistical “normalities”.  I have friends who are sensitive to gluten and the fact that modest amounts of unrefined carbs with high gluten content may be good for people generally doesn’t mean they can’t be life-threatening to them.  We all have to find out what works for ourselves (within certain broad parameters.
    But don’t miss the forest for the trees! The problem with your drive-by reference to a single line of Taubes’ taken out of context is that you fail to see that his point is NOT that exercise is unrelated to short term weight loss, but that it is theoretically insignificant vis-a-vis the creation and maintenance of excess bodily stores of fat and the hormonal and other knock-on problems of obesity.  There is an entire section of his book dealing with the invalidity of the so-called thermodynamic theory of fat gain/loss that details the empirical evidence and the resulting theoretical insights that invalidate that thesis and sustain his indictment of refined carbs and high processed foods and his preference for a diet heavy in protein and fats.  That also is not to say that exercise doesn’t have other beneficial effects.  I do 14-20 hours of intense, heavy exercise every week, but it’s very clear to me that the reason I have an body fat % of only 11 is because of what I eat (and what I don’t eat).
    As for my little snark about toxic fish, I see you apparently live in an irony free zone that enables you to fail to appreciate the vapidity of your original and continuingly unqualified (and now admittedly unfounded) attack on meat.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    How is it a stupid thing to say? Anecdotal evidence in this case is evidence from my own experience in weight management. What works for me is for ME to say based on what has worked, i.e. from personal experience, and not for Taubes. I KNOW what has and has not worked for me. This may be different for others, but others have zero relevance to me. For me, it is only my own results that truly matter. And what has worked for me has been exercise, in dropping a large amount of fat in a short time on several occassions in my life. Diet has never been something I was conscious of, and it has laergely remained unchanged. In fact, the more intense my workouts have gotten over the last several months, the HIGHER my carb intake has been. To fuel 5 hour bike rides or 2 hour runs I have always kicked up carb intake and though I never had my body fat% tsted, the eye test tells me that it has changed significantly for the better. I am now at a lull until spring, focusing on weights and doing about 7 hours of cardio a week (versus nearly 20 when I was riding. Ill be looking for a way to fuel my rides from spring. Any suggestions?

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    Suggestions?  I haven’t been on a bicycle in decades, and I don’t train for long-distance endurance – so no conventional “cardio”, but complexes (e.g., 20/10 Tabata intervals of connected reps of clean, front squat and  overhead presses for 6-10 minutes) – so I’m just thinking out loud.  I assume that, as a cyclist, during the winter your focus would be on building strength – particularly leg strength, and posterior and anterior chain strength in general, while maintaining some semblance of endurance.  If that is the case, I would target the legs and chains with squats – 2 sessions a week – complemented by 1 session of deadlifts, and spend another day or  2 doing upper back, chest and shoulders. 

    I would especially focus on warming up to, then doing 3-5 sets of 20 rep squats of the maximum you can barely push out with maximum physical and mental effort (i.e., the sort that puts you on the verge of quitting and puking), trying to to add a half or full kilo every session over 12 weeks (then doing a deload for a couple of weeks).  You will find that (while it doesn’t build long-term endurance) it generates tremendous short-term cardiovascular capacity and endurance, and real mental toughness, as well as packing on leg and hip muscle.  Squats will also generate a lot of core strength because of the demands they make on the abs, obliques, spinal erectors, lats, etc in re stabilization.  Just make sure you always work within the limits of correct form.  Deadlifts will provide complementary lower back and rear anterior conditioning, and can be supplemented with pull-ups (or lat pulldowns), bent-over or seated rows and hypers.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Im already doping the weights and yes, the goal is to build up leg strength. But the rep range you suggest is different from what Ive been doing. Ill give this idea a go.

    Currently Im doing weights, swimming+stationary bike to keep endurance going, but Im really itching for warmer weather and clear paths to return.

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com/ Sperwer

    multiple 20 rep squat sets at max weight are a challenge that one is always on the verge of failing even on the 1st set (or else you aren’t doing them right , ie wimping out on the weight, not going all the way into the hole).  I strongly recommend having a large sweet potato and a big dose of hydrolyzed whey/casein protein 30 minutes beforehand to power you through; having a barf bag on standby; and having a post workout shake of hydrolyzed whey/casein plus some additional clean carb (I use oat powder mixed into my post w/o shake) to facilitate protein uptake.  You should be eating a total of a minimum of 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight/day (and up to 2.o grams, if you can determine that your body actually is using it).  You’ll know if your taking too much post w/o because if so you will have projectile diarrhea within 10-20 minutes of ingesting it