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Open Thread #272

Baby it’s cold outside.

  • slim

    First, brothren.

  • CactusMcHarris

    First time I’ve seen that neologism, slim. Kamsahamnidooda.

  • numberoneoppa

    Just finished a device I’ve been planning/working on for about a year, a type of polymer light emitting diode. Didn’t work.

    Back to the drawing board.

  • Cloud

    “Should I tell my infertile Asian wife that I want all-white babies?”

    I submit this Dear Prudence query from Slate for your discussion. http://www.slate.com/articles/life/dear_prudence/2012/11/dear_prudence_can_i_request_that_our_egg_surrogate_be_white_though_my_wife.html

  • JW

    What discussion? The guy is a dumbass racist schmuck, pure and simple.

  • numberoneoppa

    Yeah, guy sounds like a schmuck.

  • jkitchstk

    A new opponent(adoption advocate) for the S. Korean government wins Powerball lottery.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/30/us/powerball-winners/index.html
    “I think we’re going to have a pretty good Christmas,” Cindy Hill joked Friday, just minutes after a Missouri lottery official announced that Hill and her family had won half of the record $587.5 million Powerball jackpot…
    The Hills said they plan on setting up a scholarship fund, and donating to other charities, specifically mentioning adoption advocacy and the Shriners as pet causes.”

  • babotaengi

    http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-pen-argyl-korean-exchange-student-sex-20121130,0,4403516.story

    Korean teachers sexually assaulting students in the States now. Couldn’t be.

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani
  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani

    They are going to have heaps of problems living in a small town of 496 people…

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani

    http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-pen-argyl-korean-exchange-student-sex-20121130,0,4403516.story

    Korean teachers sexually assaulting students in the States now. Couldn’t be.

    nothing new about Korean teachers having sex with their Korean students.

    This time it happened in the USA – the only difference is the penalty for “being caught” will be stiffer.

  • jkitchstk

    # 8,
    Korean Style(per your link). Other than the admitted and repeated kissing, fondling, and oral sex with a 14 year old exchange student it sounds like efforts were made to make the young minor female victim the Wangta via group think.

    “Kim had denied the allegations, and apparently with the backing of other students. But when he pleaded guilty, Assistant District Attorney Patricia Broscius said a criminal probe had been launched into whether the academy — run by Kim’s parents, Min and Angela Kim — had pressured students into supporting the defendant against the victim.
    That question — “whether they were being forced to alter their potential testimony” — was also part of what brought Zito to ACE Academy on May 3, Perez wrote in his motion, in which he noted that Zito referenced a “cover-up” as part of the reason for the sentence he handed down.
    Broscius has painted life at the academy at Lobb and Bell avenues as “very regimented,” with Min Kim called “Daddy” and “Daddy Director.” Students, she said, were forced to participate in “ritual meetings” in which individuals suspected of even minor infractions were subjected to criticism by the group as a whole.

    In August, Broscius said she expected other members of the family will also face criminal charges. She said after Friday’s hearing that she continues to expect that.”

  • babotaengi

    Just ate at a Taco Bell (in the Emart food court near Dongchun Station, Incheon) for the first time in my life. The taco was quite good, if a little light on beef and cheese for my liking. The “hot” sauce was disappointing (shoulda known to choose “fire”). The beef burrito was ghastly.

    How’s the chicken ate these dives? Was too hesitant to try.

  • Arghaeri

    What discussion? The guy is a dumbass racist schmuck, pure and simple.

    Aw, come on don’t be so hard on the guy for prudent long term financial planning, just think of the huge long term financial saving for his daughters in terms of plastic surgery on the eyese and skin lightening cream… :-)

  • H.Schmidt

    Korea needs to tighten their immigration policy.

    Korea already has too many illegal immigrants.

    And why isn’t the Korean government banning the mail order bride industry? Mail order bride brokers are one of the most corrupt businesses I’ve seen.

    Many Korean men have become victims to sham marriages and other forms of corrupt marriages with Southeast Asian women.

    Korea is Korea. Why try to bring poor people into Korea only for Koreans to become poorer as all the tax money is being spent towards welfare for non-Koreans?

    Korea needs to focus on welfare for Koreans first. Also why let Somali pirates learn the Korean language? Is it for their future assimilation into Korea in the future? This is ridiculous! No other country in the world would let this happen. They would let the criminals spend their proper prison terms and then deport them back to their country of origin.

    Why is Korean government so pro-multicultural? This disgusts me as a foreigner.

    I want to see the real Korea. I want to see Koreans, not Southeast Asians.

  • Awarren

    H.Schmidt,

    Unless this is comic attempt at being a foreigner pretending to be Korean pretending to be a foreigner who doesn’t know that everyone else knows he is Korean, your attempt to portray yourself a foreigner to convince us foreigners why Korea should not once and for all drop its remaining stone tools and join the modern world would be comical if it just wasn’t so damn annoying.

  • Q

    Highly radioactive black material has been found at many places in Tokyo:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msoteVTiguY&feature=player_embedded

  • hamel

    Okay some good news from Somalia!
    S.Korean sailors freed by Somali pirates after 19 months

    South Korea’s Yonhap news agency and other media quoted Seoul officials as saying the sailors appeared to be in good health and that the government backed the Singapore company in negotiations with the pirates. There was no information on whether a ransom had been paid.

    Meanwhile, Voice of America reports:

    The pirates released most of the crew after the tanker’s Singaporean owners paid a ransom reportedly totaling $6 million.

    If a ransom has been paid by the Singaporean company (or indirectly by the Korean government) there will no doubt be some on this blog who will want to pour hot coals on the heads of Koreans. But as there are few atheists in foxholes, I wonder how many among us after 19 months at the tender mercies of the Somali pirates would be adamant that a ransom not be paid to secure our release.

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com Sperwer

    Really, Hamel? Is that the appropriate yardstick for evaluating a nation’s knuckling under to gangsterism?

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani

    I agree with #19

  • http://bcarr.com Brendon Carr

    You don’t not pay the ransom for the benefit of the crew taken hostage. The ransom doesn’t get paid for the protection of the next crew, in order that there’s no benefit to taking them hostage.

    The penalty for piracy has been and should be a quick and anonymous death at sea.

  • slim

    “The penalty for piracy has been and should be a quick and anonymous death at sea.”

    Indeed. The Russians do vanishingly little that is right or laudable in today’s world, but their handling of Somali pirates a few years back should be the template. I’d like to see the practice become so common tat the world’s sharks develop a preference for Somali flesh.

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani

    You don’t not pay the ransom for the benefit of the crew taken hostage. The ransom doesn’t get paid for the protection of the next crew, in order that there’s no benefit to taking them hostage.

    Could you write that in simple English? too many don’t and not’s for me..

    are you suggesting that they should pay the ransom or they shouldn’t?

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani

    p.s. I agree with #22 – lets just blast them away..

    and while we are at it, lets nuke Somalia, Iran, Aghanistan, Palestine, China, Laos, Sierra Leone, Mozambique, Burma, Chad, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Sudan, Zimbabwe, North Korea, Mogadishu, Pakistan and Syria.

    After we finish nuking all of them, the world will be a much better place.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    “Baby it’s cold outside.”

    BC, I’ll sing along with you, which should make for the most head scratching duet since Bing and Bowie.

    I’ll sing the mouse, given my meek and more unassuming nature, and you sing the wolf, given your natural predilection for the lawyerly vocation. (…sorry man, I’m really tryin’)

    Ready, I’ll begin:
    I really can’t stay…

    (this is your part)

  • slim

    Jakgani: We all know that “babbling idiot” is your native language, but sometimes when you clearly don’t understand something, it is better — for all concerned — simply to STFU.

  • hamel

    @26

    Jakgani: We all know that “babbling idiot” is your native language, but sometimes when you clearly don’t understand something, it is better — for all concerned — simply to STFU.

    I wonder if he even knows that Mogadishu is in Somalia. (rf #24)

  • hamel

    #19

    Really, Hamel? Is that the appropriate yardstick for evaluating a nation’s knuckling under to gangsterism?

    Not really sure what you are asking there. All I know is if I were one of those sailors (or their family members) I would be pretty glad to be alive and free after all that time.

  • slim

    Robert is admirably light-handed on the moderation and all, and everyone is entitled to his/her opinion yada yada, but there has to be a floor below which discourse is not allowed to sink. Jakgani lives each day 3 flights below that floor — like he sniffs glue between posts.

  • hamel

    Phew, I was starting to think I was the only one who noticed.

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani

    no, I live one floor below Hamel, and it’s his bathroom I have to smell.

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani

    common Hamel… tell us that you live in the basement….

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani

    still proud?

    On the other hand the Koreans are very gullible. We could fool them with anything. This was particularly true for the monks, who liked to listen to stories about foreign countries and their people.

    Furthermore they are very cowardly, as it seemed what we have heard from reliable people concerning their behavior during the Japanese invasion, when their king was killed and a great number of cities and villages were destroyed.

    With regard to the moral standards, it has to be said that the Koreans are not very strict when it comes to mine and thine, they lie and cheat and that’s why they can’t be trusted. They are proud if they have cheated somebody and they don’t think that’s a disgrace. That’s why they can undo the buy of a horse or a cow even after four months if it becomes clear that the buyer has been cheated.

    A man can repudiate a wife, even if he begets several children by her. He then may marry again. A woman doesn’t have these privileges unless a judge has granted her these.

    A man may have as many wives as he can maintain and, if he desires, go to the whores. One woman stays in his house and does the housekeeping. The other women live somewhere else in separate houses.

    Noblemen usually have two to three women in their house, of which one is in charge of the housekeeping. Each of these women has her own apartment, where the lord of the house can visit them to his liking.

    The Koreans treat their women as slaves, whom they can repudiate for a futility. If the man doesn’t want the children, the repudiated woman has to take them with her. No wonder this country is so densely populated.

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani

    This opening up was only related to the trade. Puritanism, racist prejudices and hate of foreigners prevented also after this year sexual relations between Koreans and Westerners.

    Only during and after the Korean war children of mixed blood were born in Korea. (1950-1953)

    Genetically speaking, only the third generation would have the possibility of having children with the characteristics of the first generation, presuming that dark dominates light.

    From this one may conclude that all blue-eyed, blond Koreans of whom the father was demonstrably not a UN-military who was in service during that war, is a descendent of the crew of the Sperwer.

    This statement is supported by a research recently done by dr. Tae Jin Kim, (Kim Tae Jin, who I met at the Dutch embassy in Seoul ) head of the library of the Chonnam University at Kwangju, the capital of the province of Cholla (Thiellado according to Hamel) In an article of the NRC Handelsblad of January 4, 1988 is written about this research:
    Al zes jaar lang brengt Tae Jin Kim een groot deel van zijn vrije tijd door met onderzoek naar nazaten van de 17e eeuwse Hollandse schipbreukelingen, die op een eilandje voor de kust aanspoelden. Volgens hem trouwden ze tijdens hun langdurig verblijf in Cholla met Koreaanse vrouwen en zorgden voor een nageslacht met gemengd bloed.

    Already for six years Tae Jin Kim spends a big part of his free time with researching the descendants of the 17-century Dutch crew who shipwrecked and washed ashore at an island off the coast. According to him they married during their long stay in Cholla with Korean women and provided an offspring of mixed blood. “People are dismayed, yes even deeply shocked, when I only suggest that they might have descended from the Hollanders ” says Tae.

    I’ve yet not found anybody who wants to admit it, though I’m almost certain for 100% that they have Dutch blood in their veins.”

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Jak, are you speaking in tongues?

  • JW
  • http://adamsawry.wordpress.com Adams-awry

    Jakassgani is plagiarizing Hendrick Hamel. Pathetic. ATTRIBUTE YOUR SOURCES! And really, nobody wants to read massive (irrelevant) passages cut into the comments section of a blog. Time for you to move on to your next ID, methinks.

  • http://rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Can’t we all honor this year’s passing of Rodney King by getting along? It’s the Christmas season, for Christ’s sake.

  • CactusMcHarris

    #38,

    You’re a riot.

  • R. Elgin

    Per Q’s #17:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9pk42kdL4k

    Japan is definitely off my list of places to visit.

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani

    #37

    Time for you to move on to your next ID, methinks.

    Great! Can I choose an Indian ID?
    अनुच्छेद 1 — सभी मनुष्यों को गौरव और अधिकारों के मामले में जन्मजात स्वतन्त्रता और समानता प्राप्त है। उन्हें बुद्धि और अन्तरात्मा की देन प्राप्त है और परस्पर उन्हें भाईचारे के भाव से बर्ताव करना चाहिये।

  • babotaengi

    Rodney King passed? Damn. Was he off the sauce?

  • Jashin Densetsu

    @40

    that dude’s considered a quack. the beret should’ve tipped you off bro. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/nov/21/christopher-busby-radiation-pills-fukushima

    “The Green party’s former science and technology spokesman is promoting anti-radiation pills to people in Japan affected by the Fukushima nuclear disaster, that leading scientists have condemned as “useless”.

    Dr Christopher Busby, a visiting professor at the University of Ulster, is championing a series of expensive products and services which, he claims, will protect people in Japan from the effects of radiation. Among them are mineral supplements on sale for ¥5,800 (£48) a bottle, urine tests for radioactive contaminants for ¥98,000 (£808) and food tests for ¥108,000 (£891).

    The tests are provided by Busby Laboratories and promoted through a body called the Christopher Busby Foundation for the Children of Fukushima (CBFCF). Both the pills and the tests are sold through a website in California called 4u-detox.com, run by a man called James Ryan.”

  • hamel

    @43:

    But bro, he’s a conspiracy theorist. Don’t you CT’s all stick together?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    …and don’t CT’s all stick together in, irony of ironies, some kind of conspiracy?

  • keith

    It was cold today, that’s for sure.

    I went to see FC Seoul play and made the mistake of wearing my Converse shoes, my other clothing was more appropriate and kept me warm, just my feet were freezing. I can’t help but feel sorry for how cold the dancing girls in skimpy clothes must have been feeling. My feet were were very cold by the end of the game. It was a nice result for FC Seoul 2-1 against Busan, but not worth almost getting frostbitten toes over!

    FC Seoul’s second goal was one of the best headers I’ve ever seen a Korean make #9 Jogook, that was a lovely shot. Also #10 Dejan’s goal was quality as well. Dejan also got some kind of record today about the most goals scored by a player in the season (ever?), he’s scored 31 this season, which is pretty good going. Not bad from a guy from Montenegro.

    England also hammered the ABs in the rugby (38-21)! So it has been a good weekend for sport. I didn’t watch the rugby, but I’ll watch it in a bit whilst I eat a nice dinner of roast chicken, potatoes and veggies. I want to watch the rugby as it was apparently an amazing game, a kiwi chap I spoke to at the football was amazed by how well England played, and of course the ABs are an awesome team. Should be worth a watch even though I know the result.

    A cold, but good weekend.

  • http://bcarr.com Brendon Carr

    Good grief, you had me panicking for a moment there: To me and several other esteemed commenters at the Marmot’s Hole, CT doesn’t stand for conspiracy theorist, but for Cryptologic Technician — the United States Navy’s most selective, difficult, and therefore prestigious rating. (Neveryoumind the SEALs.) We CTs do all stick together, but Hamel’s careless use of CT threw me in deep doubt. I need to lie down now.

  • keith

    The England-New Zealand game was excellent. Everything that a good rugby game should be. Tough play, determined players, good sportsmanship, excellent tactics on both sides and both teams playing really well.

    England won, but it certainly wasn’t an easy game for them. Respect to both the teams for the most exciting game I’ve seen in quite a while.

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani

    Rodney King passed? Damn. Was he off the sauce?

    In November 1989, King robbed a store in Monterey Park, California. He threatened to hit the Korean store owner with an iron bar he was carrying, then hit him with a pole. King stole two hundred dollars in cash during the robbery, and was caught, convicted, and sentenced to two years of imprisonment and released after serving one-year of the sentence

    June 17, 2012 SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. – Rodney King had been drinking and was on drugs when he plunged into a swimming pool and accidentally drowned in June, a coroner’s report released Thursday concluded.

    Wow – one day he is beating a Korean for money and then 2 years later he gets beat up and then 21 years later he drowns after taking drugs. I hope he spent his $3.8 million wisely.

  • CactusMcHarris

    Nothing amongst you Holers about an alleged plan to launch a rocket (this one is supposed to go up) by the DPRK? Where are our reporters?

    http://gawker.com/5964834/north-korea-is-firing-another-rocket-totally-not-to-test-missiles-so-stop-asking-about-it-jeez

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Cactus, I’ve seen TV news reports talking about the activity seen in satellite photos. The increased activity is the reason for the speculation. Last time, the NorKs announced that they were launching a “satellite” bearing rocket in advance and carried the launch on live NorK TV. I don’t suppose they’ll make that mistake again.

  • Anonymous_Joe

    I just saw on the news that DPRK notified international bodies about launch times and flight plans. Launch between Dec. 10 and Dec 22 from 7:00 a.m. to (I didn’t get that part). First stage expected to fall into the West Sea off ROK, and second stage to fall in ocean near Philippines.

    Speculation is that KJU hopes to commemorate KJI’s Dec. 17 death and solidify power base.

  • slim

    An informed and highly pessimistic view of Japan. I don’t see Korea Inc. as anywhere near as ossified and immobilized as its neighbor and developmental role model.

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/fl20121202x1.html

  • iMe

    @53
    Japan is pretty bad but China is worse when it comes to channel stuffing and cooking their books. And of course, when it comes to manipulations and distortions to keep the Ponzi going, no one does it like the US Treasury.

    Unrelated topic here…I wonder how many drones are flying over Pyongyang…and Seoul? There’s got to be a bunch of drones flying all over the peninsula since no one’s talking about it.

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/shocking Jakgani

    Cactus, I’ve seen TV news reports talking about the activity seen in satellite photos.

    I didn’t bother to mention it, because I thought everyone already knew.

    (The news has been sitting beside all out comments at the top right hand side – under recent comments for a while).

    Besides, it’s time NK did it, been a while since the last one. (it usually happens approx. every 6 months).

  • http://pawikoreapics.blogspot.com/ pawikirogii 石鵝

    let’s talk about korea and plastic surgery. why so many koreans get plastic surgery? answer: because there are lots of ugly koreans. ugly is what you get with an insular population living in poverty for most of it’s history. if koreans were able to wait a bit, more and more koreans would be born naturally pretty. that would come about because of better living consditions and better diet. alas, the koreans aren’t able to wait and get plastic surgery to do what nature did not. this brings about an intersting question: if somebody is born ugly (hi, gerry!) and he/she has the money, and the technology exists to improve his/her looks, what would you say to that person? would you tell that person he shouldn’t get plastic surgery and he should stay ugly because that’s what nature intended? i don’t know but i don’t think i could say that to someone. that’s why i understand why so many koreans get plastic surgery. they want to be pretty and fast. technology exists. why not?

  • slim

    I’d say Korean women punch well above their weight in average natural beauty compared to neighbors like Japan, Taiwan and China. (And I base this on a 1980s stay in Korea that mostly pre-dated the surgery boom).

  • Benjamin Wagner

    Human-rights activist Shin Dong-hyuk, born in a North Korean prison camp, interviewed by Anderson Cooper for 60 Minutes this evening (Dec. 2, 2012) at 7:30PM ET. Preview:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50136078n

  • DLBarch

    For those of you who can’t get their fill of Dokdo and other East Asia paraphernalia, Swann Galleries is holding an auction of some very high quality original maps and atlases dating from the 1700s of the Japan/China/Korea region on Thursday, December 6 (10:30 am New York time):

    http://catalogue.swanngalleries.com/asp/searchresults.asp?st=U&view1=View&sale_value=2297&rf_lot_range_from=1&rf_lot_range_to=End

    Truth be told, I don’t actually know how many — if any– of these maps depict Dokdo, but the collection really is quite stunning.

    If you do decide to bid, though, please stay away from the maps by Jacques Bellin…I have my eye on those, and I’m on a budget!

    Happy hunting,
    DLB

  • DLBarch

    For the at most seven MHers out there who are interested in Team Korea’s participation in the 2013 America’s Cup next year in San Francisco (yay!), I am sorry to update that Team Korea STILL has not gotten its act together on setting up its online swag shop:

    http://shop.americascup.com/section-teams-team-korea.html

    However, as consolation, it appears that among those teams who have, Prada Luna Rossa is now offering a rather dubious product:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBkUqtuz1Ps

    Now, I pretty much associate sailing with salty sea air and perspiration, so gawd only knows what this stuff smells like, but I trust Team Korea will be just as, er, creative.

    DLB

  • Jashin Densetsu
  • gmm

    This article gives a breakdown of what PSY can expect to earn, domestically and internationally, from GS:

    http://music.yahoo.com/news/cashing-gangnam-styles-youtube-fame-103746853–finance.html

  • αβγδε

    “New Stunning Nighttime Views of the Earth Unveiled”:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWrWfDKg4kc

    At 1:24 mark in the video, you’ll see the Korean peninsula. Everyone’s seen this contrast before, between the two Koreas. But there it is again, confirmed and updated. North Korea is a black hole at night (not to mentikon during the day too).

  • Jashin Densetsu

    doesn’t that show that north korea is greener than south korea bro? doesn’t it mean that north korea is better for the environment than south korea?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Fust, mutha’fuckazzz…..

    How d’ya like me now, biyatches?

    Hoos yer daddy?

    Yeah… yeah…

  • Anonymous_Joe

    Aussie Radio DJ prank ends in Nurse’s suicide in London on CNN.com: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/07/world/europe/uk-royal-hospital-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t1