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Convicted rapist claims he was treated unfairly because of his nationality

Remember Pvt. Robinson – the guy convicted of raping a teenage girl and then stealing her computer?  Well, he is back in the news and claims:

[He] has been treated unfairly by the Korean judicial system because of his nationality and that authorities have scoffed at his side of the story.

“What I get back from the district court, the prosecutors, the police [is] a smirk. You’re wrong, you’re a liar,” Pvt. Kevin Robinson told an appeals hearing before the Seoul High Court. “The whole time, I’ve been guilty before I could get a fair trial.”

I have to agree with Mr. Marmot – there seems to be a lot of circumstantial evidence in this trial.  You can read the rest of it at Stars and Stripes (October 10, 2012).

  • cm

    I don’t believe him either. A totally intoxicated teen girl who could hardly walk, wakes up suddenly and offers up oral sex out of nowhere? Sorry, only in porn videos. No wonder the police smirked. He has to come up with a better story than that.

  • sojufan_5944

    what a pathetic, sad man.

  • http://rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    As I’ve said before, he’s a Class A DB, but even with DBs, actual evidence should be presented before you send them away for six years for rape.

    Honestly, if the Korean side wants to change the SOFA, this case did not help their cause. If Korean courts want to sentence US servicemen to hard time based on questionable testimony and absurd arguments by prosecutors, that’s their right, but they shouldn’t expect USFK to help them do it.

  • http://asspos.blogspot.com geronl

    If your guilty, you should be punished. If you are innocent, then fight like a badger

  • Yu Bum Suk

    CM, that’s just how I feel. And if his intentions weren’t sinister, why did he steal her laptop, probably the only valuable possession she owned? And if he did get six years for managing to get blown by a teen who was vomiting and too intoxicated to walk and then stealing her computer, well, worse travesties of justice could happen.

  • enomoseki

    Him stealing a laptop didn’t help his case.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    #5, then he committed theft. That’s not a 6 year prison sentence. It seems to me the whole case against him is pretty flimsy. They judged how intoxicated she was from CCTV footage? And how much language mastery must one have to communicate a willingness to perform a sexual act? Were he a Korean, he would be let off, so perhaps this is a way to sort of average things out: for all the korean rapists who get sentences far too short for the crimes they committed they will come down hard on non-Koreans even though they lack much of a case. I do not trust this legal system one bit.

  • http://asspos.blogspot.com geronl

    Just a word but the more important thing is this story:

    Lindsay Lohan joining K-Pop Group?
    http://asspos.blogspot.com/2012/10/lohan-joins-k-pop-band-news-briefs-for.html

    OKAY, not really, I was trying to be funny

  • enomoseki

    That is your opinion

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    As opposed to what you posted being fact? He got 6 years for engaging in oral sex with a minor who lied about her age. A Korean got 6 years for repeatedly raping and impregnating a minor under his care over the course of several years. You can draw your own conclusions.

  • http://askakorean.blogspot.com thekorean

    then he committed theft. That’s not a 6 year prison sentence.

    No, he committed sexual assault AND theft. Combined, that’s a 6 year sentence.

  • http://askakorean.blogspot.com thekorean

    Clarification: he committed sexual assault and robbery (as opposed to larceny.)

  • cm

    And another thing, he didn’t plead extenuating circumstances like drunkenness, cultural differences, language barrier, or any other excuses he could come up with. Nor did he show any remorse or guilt. All adds up to a much harsher sentence. If he was a Korean, he would have done all of the above and escape with a much lighter sentence. Who was this guy’s lawyer?

  • Anonymous_Joe

    >>”He got 6 years for engaging in oral sex with a minor who lied about her age.”

    She might have been a minor, but what was the age of consent?

  • cm

    #12

    There’s some confusion in that regard. I’m confused also. The official age of sexual consent in Korea is 13. But as another poster had posted earlier (which has been deleted since), a Korean actor has been charged assaulting a minor, having sex with her, charged under Child and Youth Protection Act. So I’m not sure what the law really is.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Did he commit sexual assault? As far as I can tell, no evidence other than her word points to that. Seeing as she lied about her age, can she be trusted? It’s very flimsy evidence and her word against his. Certainly didnt help him that he was a foreigner AND an American soldier. Even if he committed robbery, is robbery a 6 year crime?

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    There is no law in Korea, it all comes down to the whim of whoever gets to decide, be that a judge or some bureaucrat.

  • Yu Bum Suk

    It’s also worth pointing out that the standard of doubt can vary from country to country. While the evidence presented to the public may indeed suggest reasonable doubt, I don’t believe that’s the standard prosecutors have to reach in Korea.

  • cm

    What would be the motive for the girl to lie that she was raped in her own home? The evidences like CCTV showing her walking wobbly, the semen found in her under clothes, all these are circumstantial evidence, I am not sure what evidence is lacking here, other then a direct video of the guy forcing on her. Can those people who says evidence is lacking, explain to me why you think there’s no evidence?

  • Yu Bum Suk

    “What would be the motive for the girl to lie that she was raped in her own home?”

    Revenge for the fact that he stole her only valuable possession and means of communicating with the outside world?

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    Or needing to pretend she’s a “good girl who would never do that sort of thing.” Wobbly walking does not really prove she was so drunk she couldnt make a decision.

  • enomoseki

    You are a republican right?

    “It’s a girl’s fault for getting raped!”. Typical GOP reasoning for rapes across the USA.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    How is this a republican or democrat issue? I’m for making sure that we convict people based on good evidence not flimsy evidence and that we punish them severely for it. But Im sure you’re a democrat, seeing how stupid you are.

  • http://askakorean.blogspot.com thekorean

    I’m for making sure that we convict people based on good evidence not flimsy evidence and that we punish them severely for it.

    Did you care this much about evidence when you screamed and screamed about that other rape case?

  • Arghaeri

    Cm, if the actor was assaulting her that implies no consent. Also, it is illegal in case if monetary or similar inducement even if consent given for those under 18.

    Fir a simple consenting relationship the age of consent for women is 13 as demonstrated by relatively recent cases findings and judgements.

  • Yu Bum Suk

    “Or needing to pretend she’s a “good girl who would never do that sort of thing.” ”

    If she’s 17 and living on her own (and almost certainly a drop-out) and hanging around in bars there’s probably not much need for that. It would be far easier to say she didn’t remember, he stole her computer, and avoid any other attention.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    TK,

    was there a question of any lack of evidence in he other case?

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    As far as I know, the animal in that case admitted to having raped her, or, rather, “educated” her.

  • Seth Gecko

    But as another poster had posted earlier (which has been deleted since), a Korean actor has been charged assaulting a minor, having sex with her, charged under Child and Youth Protection Act.

    What’s this?

  • hardyandtiny

    never ever never screw with a teenager’s laptop.

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/funny/page/3 Jakgani

    The official age of sexual consent in Korea is 13. But as another poster had posted earlier (which has been deleted since), a Korean actor has been charged assaulting a minor, having sex with her, charged under Child and Youth Protection Act.

    It all depends whether it is consensual or NOT.
    It also depends on whether the accused is Korean or foreigner.

    so, the dickhead does have a case – but this is Korea… the lawyers will take his money and the courts will put him back where he belongs.

  • silver surfer

    Oral sex, consensual, and yet…blood was recovered from the scene? I don’t know the law on what counts as physical evidence of rape, but the presence of blood is suspicious.

    No doubt, if he was a 65 year old ajossi who said he was drunk, he would have been let off with a warning.

  • http://askakorean.blogspot.com thekorean

    As far as I know, the animal in that case admitted to having raped her, or, rather, “educated” her.

    The convict in that case claimed that he “educated” her, which means he did not rape her. An outlandish claim, sure, and obviously the court did not buy his bullshit — just as much as the court did not buy the bullshit about how he tripped, fell, and landed his dick in this girl’s mouth.

  • cm

    #32

    +1.

    He should have told the truth, he was trying to take advantage of a semi conscious under aged girl, said sorry and that he would never do it again. He probably could have gotten off with a slap on the wrist.

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/funny/page/3 Jakgani

    I wonder how many men – each weak, have consensual sex one evening – but upon waking – then find out the “consensual” sex has change to “rape” – at the whim of the girl.

    pretty dangerous stuff!

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/tag/funny/page/3 Jakgani

    (weak = week) (change = changed) sorry, typing too fast

  • palladin9479

    Was he treated differently as a foreigner then if he was a Korean? Most definitely. His sentence is due to him not playing the shame game that typically happens. He followed his American notion of law (innocent until proven guilty) which isn’t how it works here. If he would of gone in with the understanding that it was a sentencing not a real trial, then he could of begged extenuating circumstances. (I was drunk, missing my homeland, angry at the Americans forcing me to come here, ect..) and got a lighter / partially suspended sentence. Those initial trials are really just for show to the public, the real investigation / weighing of evidence happens at the appeal level.

    This guys lawyers failed him hard, they should of explained all this to him. That he was already guilty before walking in and that his best defense was a strong plea for mercy and not a stoic “prove I did it” position.

  • SalarymaninSeoul

    #35, its scary.
    #37, as Is aid, Korea has no law. Not in the way we conceive of law and the rule of law. Its all based on whim and its all corrupt as hell.

  • palladin9479

    #38,

    Korea definitely has laws, just not a western system of “innocent until proven guilty”. There is no jury and instead you have a panel of judges that decide innocence or guilt. As those judges are young and typically under lots of pressure from the state they typically error on the side of “guilty”, the older and more experienced judges are on the appeals panels. The media will follow the court trial until sentencing happens, but not often do they keep following it during appeals (must be super big controversy). The appeals judges are under significantly less pressure to maintain the original “guilty” verdict and tend to suspend / reduce many sentences. Evidence and testimony are still examined, laws are still followed, just the real jury isn’t in front of a camera with their names plastered all over the TV.

    Yes it’s corrupt, side effect of that type of legal system.

    Also remember there are different levels, common incidents are typically taken care of at a local level with penalty’s being fines and not much (if any) jail time. They encourage people to work things out between themselves.

  • babotaengi

    Should have spent his lawyer’s fee on Chanel and Prada for the victim. She’d probably be down for a second date.

  • austin

    A decent lawyer would have advised him to attend court in a wheel chair wearing pajamas