You think Romney is an unappealing candidate?

Well, American conservatives, spare a thought for what Korean conservatives have got to vote for in December:

Park avoided any specific language on the nature of the 1961 episode during a debate recorded on August 7 for Cheongju Broadcasting (CJB). It is scheduled to air on Aug. 13.

“I don’t think it’s the place of politicians to be fighting over whether [the events of 1961] were a ‘coup d’etat’ or a ‘revolution,’” she said.

Her remarks came in response to a question from fellow primary candidate Kim Tae-ho, who asked if she would agree that the overthrow was both a coup and a “necessary decision.”

She also said, “No one can refute that the events themselves did happen, whether you call them a ‘coup’ or a ‘revolution.’”

Kim repeated his question as to whether May 16 was a coup, to which Park responded that “we need to leave that issue” for history to decide.

Now, I’ve never launched a coup d’etat, but if I did, I’d imagine it would look very much like this:

Mind you, everything she said might be right… sort of… but Jesus, can we at least call a coup a coup?

No, I suppose we’d rather get ourselves all upset over a guy posting mean things on Twitter.

  • SomeguyinKorea

    Generally, a revolution is violent, a coup isn’t.

  • iMe

    i don’t know, dude. romney is pretty bad. they’re talking about his tax returns now but wait until they start talking about how much taxpayer $ he and his company received. and then there’s obamney care. and he’s pretty much for and against whatever whenever depending on his audience du jour. at the end of the day, he’s a big government liberal. and that is not what we need. i wish there was a revolution in this country.

  • pawikirogi

    it was a coup and the best thing to happen to korea. the second best thing for korea was american support for pak. 밥 먹었어?

  • Guest

    I agree that a coup should be called a coup, but . . .

    I wonder, if Park directly condemned her father, would she be getting criticism for a lack of filial piety? We’ll never know, but I’m curious.

  • kaizenmx

    Yun Bo seon’s government was already falling apart. Park came in because he couldn’t take bunch of incompetent politicians with dreams further ruining the country. I would say he was a necessary evil. He was the best thing that happened to Korea since the liberation.

  • jkitchstk

    To think some S.E. Asians are sometimes referred to as animal-like.

  • hardyandtiny

    If this is all they’ve got then she’s probably going to win.

  • Long Johnston

    Lee Jong-kul said calling Park GH a “b____” on twitter was “a typo resulting from difficulty using the small keypad on his iPhone . . .”

    “Fucking iPhones,” Lee added “now if I’d gotten the big keypad Galaxy Note like I wanted I could have called her I ‘b___ @$%# @#%! #^$@%!!!’ like I intended.”

    Just shows to go ya: Buy Korean.

  • redwhitedude

    I don’t understand why this is being dragged out. The fact is that if Park hadn’t taken power Korea would be a very different place now. Probably not as developed, however I do agree with the coup/revolution was illegal. Technically it is an illegal seizure of power but what can anybody do about it now? That is how history played out the best anybody can do if they don’t like Park is to go after some of the abuses that he has committed during his rule.

  • Long Johnston

    @9 Isn’t about his daughter’s interpretation and understanding of those events and how that plays into whatever type of legacy she is supposed to represent, isn’t it?

  • Arghaeri

    I think she’s trying to represent her own legacy!

  • SomeguyinKorea


    Represent or redefine?

  • redwhitedude

    what are people going to do? Fry her for sounding a bit accomodating to what her father did? What is she suppose to do? Bash her own father?

  • cm

    The difference between Park Geun Hye and the Jongbuks. Park Geun Hye excusing his father from dictatorship is just arguing history. It’s laughable and unlikely that she’ll end up as another dictator. This has no bearings on how she will govern South Korea.

    On the other hand, Jongbuks who sympathize with North Korea is totally a different story. Threats from North Korea are still very much real. The future of South Korea is still a stake, whether the leftists will steer the country towards North Korea and China there by taken hostage by those two gangsters, or will South Korea remain at steady course with United States. That’s the question.

    So all those people who are trying to compare Park Geun Hye with the Jongbuks, it’s not the same thing. Attacks on Park Geun Hye for her father’s actions is just bantering over history which has no bearings her policies, and on future of South Korea. This is unlike the Jongbuk leftists who do the bidding for Pyongyang knowingly or unknowingly.

  • bumfromkorea


    That would be nice. There are plenty of ways to not sound like she’s endorsing her father’s brutality without bashing her father. But instead, she sounds like the “Yushin Princess” that her opponents accuse her of being.

  • redwhitedude

    At the end of the day this is just silly sideshow. Unless she makes a serious misstep people should give this a rest. However I think she could have done better in this issue. Her opponents should know that is a better alternative than opposition candidates.

  • Arghaeri

    Represent or redefine?

    Create, I don’t think she’s done anything yet to term as a legacy that can then be redefined.

  • Long Johnston


    The point is her father’s legacy — how was that not clear to you?

  • redwhitedude

    funny how a lot of the attention is focused on President Park’s human rights violation. The thing is that by developing the country in the way that he did it set himself up to having even more problems. You can’t have a dictatorship and be prosperous country. Ultimately it was his undoing and the fact that he didn’t let go of political power cost him his life. It isn’t really simple, if Koreans as whole think about President Park’s legacy on one hand yea he did do a lot of unsavory things but at the same time he put Korea in a path that ultimately resulted in Korea joining the ranks of industrialized nations so I find myself unable to totally disown Park.
    Maybe this attention is the result of shifting outlook of people. I’m sure back in the 80s there would have been even more demonizing of his legacy.

  • Arghaeri

    @17 The point is her father’s legacy — how was that not clear to you?

    mmm as the subject of the exchange between someguy and I was my opinion that PGH was representing her own ‘legacy’ and not her fathers – how was it clear to you the subject was otherwise !

  • Long Johnston

    how was it clear to you the subject was otherwise !

    prolly cuz I actually know what the word “legacy” means…