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Open Thread #252 – The Style Thread

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1125856382 Charles Montgomery

    First, bro!

  • R. elgin

    last . . .

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    You, too, Charles? Really?

  • Josh Perlstein

    So in my opinion, moving to America and living here for 10 years should nullify a Korean parent’s ability to stop his/her daughter from dating an American.

    How wrong I am.

  • Josh Perlstein

    Maybe it was Charles all along.

    >.>
    <.<

    edit: Why isn't this showing up as threaded and Robert's is?

  • Josh Perlstein

    I miss threaded comments already. :|

    Double post. Mistake.

  • Joel Tait

    Has anyone seen “Gangnam Style” by Psy? My kids just showed it to me and I think it’s genius. There is some great satire coming out of Korea lately. I assume that it is satire, at least :/

  • pawikirogii

    another mass shooting. another snowflake on cho’s head.

  • Byeonguk Yook

    You mean this?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0&list=PLE9C5C1AB30C41847&index=48&feature=plpp_video
    Maybe it is a satire of those rich people around Gangnam. Now if I can stop my head from ringing to this tune. Maybe Hyuna needs to hire Psy as her choreographer, she looks a lot better in this one than the Troublemaker and bubble pop videos.

  • Byeonguk Yook

    How many people are buying what PGH about the 5.16 coup? That it was “unavoidable” or that it was the best out of a crappy situation in Korea. 

  • Jang

    After hearing a witness say he was only a few feet away or the closest person from “The Joker” when he entered through the exit, saw him throw the smoke bomb then point and shoot the ceiling, I would’ve used my football skills to tackle the wimpy honor roll student who was also a paid employee of his university.

  • keyinjpop

    Enjoying this song a lot. May buy when I can get another iTunes card.

  • keyinjpop

    Mass shooting in a theater in Colorado:
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/police-press-motive-denver-area-movie-massacre-232932177.html
    (FYI, this is just one of the stories)
    Sadomasochism, the Internet, and S. Korean teens:
    http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/9572764.html
    and the end of that battle between JYJ and SM will have to wait:
    http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/9577210.html
    Any Final Fantasy fans out here. Sad news about XIII Versus:
    http://aramatheydidnt.livejournal.com/4049699.html#comments#comments

  • Byeonguk Yook

    Here’s a nice weekend killer. Taking idols/celebs and based on their looks matching them to a hypothetical job.
    http://www.soompi.com/2012/07/20/potential-jobs-for-girl-group-members-based-on-their-appearances/

  • R. elgin

    I noticed when I recently visited America after several years that there were signs in a Starbucks, Walgreens Drug store and elsewhere that had signs that read “support our troops” and wanted people to donate candy, coffee, etc. to them.
    The signs reminded me of the war bond drives and patriotic advertising from WWII and I really wondered is America really at war or is it just a corporate attempt to take advantage of America’s latest bout of interventionism? 

  • R. elgin

    If you were smart, you would be more concerned with what she thinks about running Korea in these times.  Hindsight is an easy thing to indulge in and often too late to be of much use.

  • http://www.askakorean.net/ The_Korean

    If you look at Korean history the idea of democracy didn’t really sink in until the 70s and 80s.

    So all the people who protested in the April Revolution of 1960 were just clamoring for a new dictator? Then why did PCH even need his tanks?

  • http://www.globalasianculture.com Liz

    This was satirically funny, but I’m sure for readers of this blog ‘Itaewon Freedom’ from JYP and Co. really hit the spot. Easily the best Korean music video of all time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N8c1t1QTDI

  • Byeonguk Yook

    No, but the way it happens is they protest for democracy and elect somebody else, but that somebody else ends up displaying the same dictatorial tendency of wanting to continue being in power and eliminating the opposition. That’s what I meant by democracy not sinking in. When not in power protest under guise of wanting democracy but once in power act like dictator. I’m sure not everybody was like this but this tendency would have been very common when trying to put a democratic system in place without really having the idea of it sink in.

  • Byeonguk Yook

    As I said before she is probably the best of a so and so lot. I do cringe whenever candidates begin making welfare promises. That’s a good way to bust a budget. I’m not quite sure if she is going to be as capable as LMB internationally. 

  • WMunny

    “I’m Sexy and I Know it”, but in Korean.
    I swear to God that Koreans simply listen to a hit song, and immediately think, “how can I copy that?”
    It’s sickening.

  • SomeguyinKorea

    Isn’t his family wealthy and very well-connected?

  • Byeonguk Yook

    I listened to both. I think you are imagining the similarities.

  • hoju_saram
  • hoju_saram

    Cool song, almost posted it this morning, but Wmunny is right: it’s Im Sexy and I Know It repackaged.

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com Sperwer Accipiter

    And JYP had the integrity to ackowledge “Harlem Desire”

  • http://www.rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    God, I hate that song.

  • John Maple

    I hope someone gets sued for that too.

  • http://www.sperwerslog.com Sperwer Accipiter

    ;)

  • Dokdoforever

    How many of us living in Korea would prefer a Korea with private gun ownership?  It’s insanity.  At the very least gun owners in the US should provide a compensation fund for the inevitable victims of gun ownership.  They’re free riding -  imposing a cost on the rest of society.

  • http://www.globalasianculture.com Liz

    With Colorado, everyone’s saying — for one last tired time — the gun lobby and the NRA has too much power. Roger Ebert put it well here: 

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2012/07/the_body_count.html

    47% of American households currently own a gun. That number is staggering. You can probably stack all those guns in a wobbly Leaning Tower of Pisa that pierces the stratosphere and then some.

    Still for all the proselytizing, Ebert misses a key culprit in these mass murders: the motion picture industry. Ever since the demise of the production code in the late 1950s Hollywood has been locked in an arms race of ever more sensationalized violence and the graphic fetishization of human suffering, with each film more explosive than the previous feature, making a lasting impression on vulnerable children like Cho Seung Hui and James Holmes. (Needless to say, Korean films are part of this larger trend, with the bloodiest, sickest flicks always making the film festival circuit from Sydney to New York.)

    Which is why I found director Christopher Nolan’s statement on the killings a bit sanctimonious.

    http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2012/07/20/christopher-nolan-batman-dark-knight-shooting-colorado-movie-theater/

    One more thing — I remember when this last happened — with Cho Seung Hui — many a commenters/bloggers pointed a finger at Cho’s Korean identity as culprit. I find it amusing this isn’t the case this time around — despite the fact there’s no place more morally vacuous right now than America’s well manicured suburbs.

  • Byeonguk Yook

    Somehow I doubt a lawsuit in this case will fly. 

  • Byeonguk Yook

    I don’t know how many cases of that there have been in Kpop. Could you give me a list of songs that are suspeciously copies, repackaging of other songs?

  • imememememe

    i am sad to say that nothing in america is genuine anymore.

  • RolyPoly

    To old fogies:  Remember the Charlie Tuna commercial?
    That is what I want to say to the dog in the picture.
    “Sorry, Marmot dog, we do not want a dog with good taste, we want a dog that tastes good”.
    Oh, I am getting hungry.

  • RolyPoly

    Could this year be the end of Han River miracle (=Japan boost)?
    Something may be brewing in NK and meanwhile in SK the same old Commies vs Dictator’s children battle goes on.
    China is licking its chops.

  • imememememe

    so was this an act of terrorism?
    how far are we willing to go to prevent something like this from happening again?
    are we willing to put up with metal detectors wherever we go? TSA agents on every block?
    does this call for more gov’t actions? TSA agents on every block?

  • imememememe

    it is, after all, for our own safety, right?

  • RolyPoly

    Korean soccer team beat Senegal 3-0.   Great passing, reading of game, positioning, teamwork.  Everything worked.
    Can they beat Mexico on 26th?   May happen.  대한민국!

  • dogbertt

     You may notice that the most recent shooting committed by a Korean gunman in the U.S. did not draw any fingers pointing at his Korean identity as a causative factor.

    As someone who has recently lived in the U.S.’s largest city and now lives in a very well-manicured suburb, I find your “judgment” on moral vacuity facile, condescending, and unsupported.

  • imememememe

    the press is having a huge bukkake session over this shooting incident which is funny in a ‘so sad i’m laughing to keep myself from crying’ way.
    kill a few people you’re a mass murderer. but if you lie to justify going into a soverign nation and kill hundreds of thousands, you’re a war hero.

  • imememememe

    on the same token, if you steal a few hundred bucks they’ll throw you in jail but if you mess with trillions and steal billions, you get hired by baracko obamarama to run the economy.

  • Cloud

     Movies don’t kill people Liz. Unbalanced people with easy access to automatic weapons kill people en masse.
    ” I believe movies are one of the great American art forms and the shared
    experience of watching a story unfold on screen is an important and
    joyful pastime.”  Not sanctimonious but true.
    Cinema is a great universal art form, not just American as British-born Nolan put it.

  • Byeonguk Yook

    JYP should just stick to singing instead of doing other stuff. 

  • Byeonguk Yook

    Psy? I don’t know if he is coming from a wealthy background. 

  • Byeonguk Yook

    China has its own set of problems. Japan won’t get any boost from Korea. This isn’t 1950s Japan you know. 

  • R. elgin

     The killing of people sitting in a movie theatre *is* the new movie.

  • Dokdoforever

    My point is – there is a social cost to gun ownership, which is not being paid by the owners of guns.   If they want their guns, gun owners, not the people in the theater, should pay the full price for them.

  • Byeonguk Yook

    I’d be impressed if they beat Mexico handily. 

  • http://www.askakorean.net/ The_Korean

     

    You may notice that the most recent shooting committed by a Korean
    gunman in the U.S. did not draw any fingers pointing at his Korean
    identity as a causative factor

    It is hilarious that you can say this with a straight face while frequenting this blog.

  • http://www.askakorean.net/ The_Korean

    Since this is a “Style” Open Thread, here is my $0.02 on style:

    Recently, I have been in getting into interesting socks — the crazy colored hipster kind. Since I now wear a suit and tie every day, matching the tie with the socks gives an extra, interesting dimension. Since the socks are only momentarily visible to other people, their ridiculousness is like a private joke to myself.

  • imememememe

    there’s a social cost to everything. leave gun owners alone. hell, leave everybody alone as long as they’re not
    fucking with anybody. sheesh!

  • imememememe

    i highly recommend Happy Socks.

  • Inkevitch

     Pretty sure killing 12 people falls under “fucking with”

  • SomeguyinKorea

    I heard that he is.  His sister was/is also a TV host.

  • SomeguyinKorea

     It’s ironic because he famously went off on a rant a few years back on how most Kpop singers don’t know a thing about music and that he wrote all his stuff himself.

  • Dokdoforever

    The trend in crazed gun-man massacres is disturbing.  5 of the 10 largest death tolls by crazed shooting occurred since 2007.    If the NRA wants these people to have guns, they can compensate the victims – $1 million per innocent victim of gun violence.

  • SomeguyinKorea

     Well, ok.  How about what she thinks about the fact that until recently she was president of a non-profit organization that was started with her father’s slush fund and that one of its main sources of revenue is MBC, which it owns a considerable percentage thanks to her father’s decision to force media company owners to sign over the ownership of their companies over to the government by putting  a gun to their heads?

  • Byeonguk Yook

    First time I saw and heard the music video I thought it was weird. 

  • Byeonguk Yook

    Well a lot of the Kpop stuff is manufactured, you know the girl band and boy band stuff. 

  • imememememe

    Our founding fathers wanted us to have the right to bear arms, not the NRA.

  • imememememe

    So are you saying all gun owners are potential murderers?

  • http://www.askakorean.net/ The_Korean

    I am now a frequent customer of Happy Socks. Socks Appeal is alright, also.

  • dogbertt

    The Hayashi-MILF is back — lock up your closets!

     http://www.contracostatimes.com/bay-area-news/ci_21128952

  • LazyassBruiser

    I personay take a middle ground approach when it comes to firearms.

    I think people should be granted the right to buy guns, provided all these requirements are satisfied:

    1)They have at least an IQ of 110 (retards don’t need guns)

    2) They completed high-schol succesfully (bums and pathetic losers don’t need guns)

    3) They’re not obese (you can’t take care of yourself and you want a gun ? Fuck off)

    4) Completed some kind of military service (want a gun ? Learn how to fuckin’ use it correctly)

    5) They’re citizens (multi-culti works so much better when locals are armed and immigrants are not)

    Gun ownership shouldn’t be a taboo, it shouldn’t be a right either: it should be a privilege

  • LazyassBruiser

    How would you explain Japan: one of the sickest entertainment industries in the world and one of the lowest crime rate ?

    Also if anything violence in American movies is nothing but scary: it’s generally stylished and/or childish, lots of boom boom kaboom and very little graphic details.

    As you mentioned, Korean movies can be way more extreme

  • inkevitch

    Do I need to be saying that? Gun control is not that same as oputlawing all gauns. Most gun owners in US just have small hand guns. These large massacres require semi automatics and automatic rifles. Bit much for the whole self defense thing. It is your country, do what you want, but if you can’t see the common sense in gun control I pity you.

  • inkevitch

    When they wrote that guns were not as accurate or fast firing. There was a lot more dangerous wild life and there was war on your lands. Gun control doesn’t take the right “to bare arms” away it just gets rid over overly dangerous weapons.

    The problem with NRA supporters is that all of their arguments are so infantile and can be easily refuted.

  • dogbertt

    I don’t know what to tell you … I live in the area and didn’t hear anyone tie the shooting to his ethnicity. Even the local newspaper comment boards were tame on that account. Or do you have some evidence that those of us in the Bay Area immediately blamed his “Koreanness”?

  • R. Elgin

    That’s the spirit TK but, if you wear crazy socks, you have to buy a dryer so you can fluff them up since line drying doesn’t work so well and then there is fabric content. If you line dry, socks with too much cotton content dry like cardboard, especially in the current season.

  • R. Elgin

    Korean film directors could do much better than the current Batman film screening in Arizona. Who says America does it better than anyone else?

    A Korean director could have a nice, big theatre and have two guys come in as North Korean soldiers – from the rear of the theatre – and commence shooting viewers in the back during the pre-film advertising. Two more shooters could then shoot people in the back as they fled the theatre exits.

    For the finale, the police could show up thirty minutes later and arrest the lone protestor walking around dressed as a mummy while a mosquito-fogging truck circles the cast, spewing smoke.

    I don’t think that sort of film would do well in the US but the European screening would probably do well since it is not an American effort.

  • dlbarch

    Well, as someone with a weakness for fashion, let me just throw out the name Lee Geon Maan for those handful of MHers who might not yet know of him.

    The last time I was in Seoul, the dude had two stores in Insa-dong (one at each end of the main strip) with a little something for everyone…neckties and leather goods for guys, and scarves and handbags for their girlfriends. (Or the other way around, if one prefers.)

    And, no, not THOSE kind of leather goods, mi compadre!

    I think I still have half a dozen of his neckties, and to this day am still using one of his leather wallets I bought in 2007! He’s big on using stylized hangeul as a repeating design motif, so if you like that sort of cross-over thing, he’s at the top of his genre.

    Sad to say, he has a very sucky website that’s not even work linking to. Best to seek him out. His stuff’s also available at the major department stores, and in Japan, too.

    Given the events over the weekend, he does, regrettably, have a rather unfortunate name. But that’s not his fault!

    DLB

  • dlbarch

    Oh, and was someone defending ethnic jokes? GOOD!

    A Jewish guy is complaining to his friend about his fiancee:

    “Well, last night we finally did it, but I’m not sure Ester is really a virgin. She complained afterward that I was a lousy lover. I mean, really, how can you make a judgment like that after only 30 seconds?!”

    DLB

  • gbnhj

    Wow – so she had a brain tumor that her attorney states may have affected her judgement with regards to making payment at the store, yet isn’t anything that would have caused impairment during the course of her duties as councilwoman. That, friends, is a hell of a specific malady. Kudos to her and her doctors for identifying its properties so quickly.

  • http://www.bcarr.com Brendon Carr

    You may be a bit too free with the MILF appellation.

  • jg29a

    Cool. And how about non-gun owners pay a fund for the gun owners in their jurisdiction, whose presence deters the criminally-inclined from committing as many crimes in the area? If a woman gets raped by an unarmed (or knife-armed) stranger, and she can show that she had thought about getting a concealed carry permit, but the law didn’t allow her to, then she should get a nice chunk of cash from your pocket.

  • http://www.bcarr.com Brendon Carr

    Your position is the National Rifle Association wants crazed gunmen to have guns?

  • dogbertt

    “Leather pants”

  • http://www.bcarr.com Brendon Carr

    You’d have to pull them over her face.

  • hoju_saram

    I’d be impressed if they beat them, period. I hope the ROK wins, but Mexico are favourites.

  • dogbertt

    It’s like you’re a mindreader.

  • Dokdoforever

    The NRA wants people like the James the Joker guy in Denver to legally have the right to purchase as many guns and as much ammunition.as they please.

  • Dokdoforever

    This looks kind of funny, it looks like a combination of curling and lawn bowling.

  • http://www.bcarr.com Brendon Carr

    You mean, James Holmes, the graduate student with no criminal record and no record of metal-health treatment? Your position is that because somebody might use a dangerous tool in a dangerous manner, everyone should lose the right to possess that tool.

    What about kitchen knives? Their only use is to hack away at meat and bone, like the meat and bone in a human body.

  • Dokdoforever

    Yeah, you’re right. The U.S. military should stop wasting money on automatic weapons and assault rifles and just outfit the forces with kitchen knives. The Kitchen Knife Batallion will instill fear in the enemies of freedom throughout the globe.

  • http://www.bcarr.com Brendon Carr

    The fact is, our Founding Fathers wanted Americans to have an unlimited right to keep and bear arms for two reasons: (i) self-defense, which is a human right dating back to the Law of Moses; and (ii) armed insurrection. The right to violently overthrow the government is protected by the Constitution.

  • http://www.bcarr.com Brendon Carr

    Gun ownership shouldn’t be a taboo, it shouldn’t be a right either: it should be a privilege

    Well, it’s a right. You want to make it a privilege, find a way to amend the Constitution.

  • R. Elgin

    . . . The right to violently overthrow the government is protected by the Constitution

    That part seems to be lost on our government, however, its perineal blindness to its own faults, the increasing reliance upon Stazi-style suppression of dissent and the increasing number of citizens that are alienated by its machinations increase the chances of this sort of scenario to occur.

  • http://www.askakorean.net thekorean

    The fact is, our Founding Fathers wanted Americans to have an unlimited right to keep and bear arms . . .

    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    That’s an awful lot of limitations, considering that the First Amendment begins with “Congress shall make no law . . .”

  • Sperwer

    Please explicate how these are any more “limitations” than the words of the Declaration pf Independence: “We hold these truths to be self-evident…” The framers of the Bill of Rights were only stating what would have been equally self-evident to their contemporaries about the indispensability of the right to bear arms in enabling the colonies to have commenced and sustained their fight for liberty against the armed might of the greatest empire and military power of the age.

  • http://bcarr.com Brendon Carr

    Perineal blindness.

  • MikeWC

    The right to violently overthrow the government is protected by the Constitution.

    I’m really, really curious. How exactly would “armed insurrection” work against stealth bombers? Isn’t those whole line of reasoning hopelessly archaic? Quaint? And when used as an argument, complete bullshit?

  • dww

    Has this been posted yet?
    From today’s NY Times about Koreans, booze, and the po-lice!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/25/world/asia/tired-of-being-abused-by-drunks-south-korean-police-start-to-push-back.html?_r=1&hp