Hide the women and children!

MBC may indulge in racist propaganda but this:

This type of BS is exceedingly hurtful. It creates an air of distrust between foreigners and Koreans. It attempts to shame Korean women into staying away from foreign men. It damages Korea’s international image. The country is expected to host the 2018 winter Olympics, and yet programing such as this continues to be produced.

is truly laughable…dammit i don’t think this is the first time i attempt to break down this simple concept for you (and by you i mean you Engrishe teacher dipshits), but i’ll try again:

Korea has a 1+ tril. economy, it has a 1+ tril. stock market, it has Fortune 500 companies. It is a country fully integrated with the world economy at both manufacturing and financial level, NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT PERCEIVED KOREAN XENOPHOBIA. It will not carve even the slightest dent in Korean reputation, cos actually nobody gives a shit about you (yes, you dumass foreigners).

This is the same world that happily trades every year gazillion shillion of $$ in resources, finished goods and services with true champions of democracy and human rights like Hu Jintao, Vlad Putin and the Saud family without a flinch. Your third rate college liberal delusions don’t even register.

Christ i really can picture, say the Gubnor of Alabama, discussing with his economic advisors the opening of some Kia plant, going on along these lines:” The fuckin’ dog eaters wanna bring a few thousand jobs to the State ? NO way i heard Little Jimmy Graduate from U. of New Hampshire once was spit on by some drunk ajeossi cos he was walking hand in hand with his Korean girlfriend, fuck ‘em”.

Keep dreamin’ really, i mean look at the most liberal country in the world, Spain: they have gay marriage, they used to have wacko radical feminists in their governbment, they adopted the most welcoming immigration policy in Europe etc. etc. and damn their economy is so fuckin’ sterling, i can see flocks of foreign investors trampling over each other to sprinkle the country with their dough, yep sure

Someone started a Facebook group to “organize a protest” about 5pm today –already 650 members have joined in a few hours

Million hagwon fodder march ! Let’s welcome the rise of the Korean spring !! We shall overcome !!! Hilarity knows no boundaries…

Instead he is faced with doors which fall off their hinges, toilets which don’t work

Being a Brit he should feel right at home

I bet some of these news people have been running these same pieces for years just cause it is an easy news story for them to pull out of their asses on a day when they show up to work too hung over to actually function

As much as i hate to agree with anything Creo said, he has a point

Women’s rights, victim’s rights, sexual minorities rights, efforts to eliminate prostitution…hell even the eating of fifdo….all of these issues have evolved in Korea in part from pressure put on Koreans by non Koreans

Completely disagree, the evolution you mention toward a democratic society, one with a more relaxed lifestyle, didn’t happen under any kind of outside influence. It was an ENDOGENOUS process, meaning it was KOREANS who demanded (sometimes violently) change and obtained it.

The process was also sped up by a local elite who was enlightened enough to implement substantial reforms rather than halting their furious catch-up with the West.

Role of the foreigners in all this ? Little to none, the West would be just as happy with a dictatorial Korea the same way it placidly ignores tons of business and political partners, who commit rampant abuses.

Want some examples ?

Well let’s start with an easy one, China:

How many investments they loose cos of their horrific way of dealing with workers and ethnic minorities ? Exactly none

How many people give up their shopping at Chinamart despite all the pieties about poor Tibetans gurgled by Sharon Stone, Bono the douche and others ?

Again none

Let’s move over to the Gulf where, thanks to the oil bonanza, we can find some of the hottest retail markets in the world. How many of the LV, Prada, Bulgari etc. of this world are put off by the vile way they treat women and migrant workers ?

Want me to bring up closer to the Western world cases ?

Japan inc. incurred in exactly what losses because the country refuses to give up on whale hunting or because up til very recently they were unbelievably lax about child pornography ? Again the loss of image suffered by Japan and the barrage of subsequent foreign pressuring kinda elude me.

For fuck sake Hungary, a member of the EU, has a pretty much openly fascist and anti-semitic Government, who was comepletely ignored for years by Bruxelles, until the local Caudillo threatened to renege on their external debt of course.

You wanna know why ? I’ll tell you why: it’s cos the Western consumer is for the most part, despite some silly penchant for lots of kumbaya moments, a pathetic, piece of shit drone who whould sell their soul, their mother, their culture, their dignity, their technology, in one word everything to shave 2 $$ off the price tag of the lastest pair of Nike or 3 $$ to refill the tank.
Let alone adding 2 cents on the quarterly EPS of that shitty stock they inadvertently bought for their 401k

In other words…the carrot or the stick strategy has been very effective in making South Korea into a first world country in the last 50 years, and the prosperity you speak of is the result of South Koreans love for the global carrot and all the goodies that come with accepting it.

With all the due respect, this is a crock of shit, what made Korea a first world country was the hard work, the dedication, the patriotism and the talent of her engineers, her entrepreneurs and her workers

Your notion that Koreans are a society of rebels who just do as they please and damn the rest of the world couldn’t be more incorrect

Touché, guilty as fuck the bully in me can’t help but loving the scrappy, don’t-give-a-fuck-about-your -dumb-rules outsider

i’m no expert in any of these financial issues. i only know what they tell me in the papers. but yb’s rant about the int’l market being indifferent to korea’s perceived xenophobia (if any) just contradicted everything i’d read. businessweek’s article calling korea “hostile to foreigners,” a korea thinktank saying “foreign peril” is costing korea 660,000 jobs, and reports that lone star missed out on nearly 50% of a 2007 offer from hsbc because the sale was “blocked by the Korean government wilting in the face of public vitriol.”

First of all i was referring to street level xenophobia not to mistreatment of foreign investors, it’s my fault i expressed myself poorly.
Your point still deserves some attention though:

1) Korea is now (more or less) a creditor nation, a net exporter of capital and technology. They’re more likely to invest abroad than receiving FDI. the same can be said about Germany, who’s like the biggest source of FDI in the world (or maybe Japan is, i don’t remember) while their inward flow is fairly modest

2) Korea chose to nurture their own industries, sometimes with fierce protectionism, climbing up year after year the added vaue chain, eventually producing their own brands. They chose this approach, instead of relying on FDI infusions. Allow me to say it didn’t turn out too shabby as the country year after year consistently outperform pretty much every other OECD nation in terms of growth. I’d say the benefits of a closed, protected market largerly made up for the lack of foreign investors.

Now if you could prove that going out nighttime for drunk Engrishe teacher hunting or beating up poor Viet mail order brides damage Sonata sales, you may have a point. Unfortunately Korea, like Japan, like Singapore, like Qatar and others defies the Anglo/lib orthodoxia and all the gibbering about “open” “forward-thinking” “dynamic” societies. Wanna know why ? Just one word: t-e-c-h-n-o-l-o-g-y

3) If i were you, i’d take, for the sake of my own networth, the rubbish reported in business-oriented media outlets with a pound and a half of salt. This is the same people who claimed FB stock would pop to 75$ on the first day of trading or, back in the early 2000′s, that Germany was the sick man of Europe

milan inter 2009, fighting!

Now you’re starting to make some sense but seriously man, pleasetell me you read the Guardian tripe just for giggles and lulz and you don’t take it seriously

Allow me to also virtually high-five Yangachi. Priceless.

belated congrats for the incoming baby ! And cherish those beer night memories as for a while your and missus wild dreams will be about 8 consecutive hours of sleep