Now we have a women smoking AND drinking on the Line 5 assaulting an older gent when he tried to knock the cigarette out of her mouth. More specifically, she pours her beer on him:
This woman clearly has, ahem, issues. And it appears she may be the same woman who was caught on video making a scene after smoking on the Bundang Line.
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Man… that’s 3 females in one month smoking on the subways…
Here is another one (third one) who was smoking on a Busan subway –
http://imgnews.naver.com/image/023/2012/03/24/2012032301336_0_0_20120324092104.jpg
[[Netizens got a new target with “cigarette girl”, who smoked on the subway in Busan, ashed her cigarette out on the floor of the car, and fought with passengers who asked her to stop.]]
thanks to Nathan – http://asiancorrespondent.com/78919/most-read-naver-com-articles-of-the-week-march-25-2012/
Do we get a news story for every drunk guy on the subway as well?
YotD, that picture is the same as the Bundang video. That’s why I’m confused. Was it Bundang or Busan? And I thought the beer video was the same thing but shot at a different angle, but then I noticed the clothes were different.
That would make a GREAT ad for Hite Max.
Yeah, I saw this video from a different phone camera.
YotD, that’s actually the same woman from the Bundang Line incident. Nathan just accidentally misread or miswrote, but the original Korean-language article he linked to shows it to be from the episode in Bundang.
What would be my immediate reaction if someone poured beer on me while on the subway? Hmm…
What would be yours?
A few years ago while I was sitting with a friend on a bench on a busy street in Jamshil in the minutes following Korea’s loss to Argentina in the World Cup, a young guy walking by deliberately threw a full cup of water on me. My bud, a Korean, immediately called the cops and then grabbed the guy’s arm (hard), not letting go until the police came to make sure he didn’t take off. When the men in blue arrived a few minutes later, the water thrower then accused my friend of getting physical (“using strength”) with him and threatened charges of his own (thus explaining why Koreans avoid fisticuffs at all costs in favor of lapel grabbing when fighting). The officer’s reaction was, “Of course he got physical with you! You threw a cup of water on his friend!”
The officer explained to me that such an assault, although it was just water, was actually quite serious in terms of the potential consequences under Korean law (the guy admitted on the spot that he did it on purpose: “그 분을 보고 마음에 안들었어요” were his exact words ㅎ).
At the end of the 맥주녀 video, I didn’t see the ajusshi (or the others who got wet) follow the subway official who escorted the woman off the train, but to put an end to such antics, filing assault charges against the ‘troubled one’ would definitely be an option.
Pretty sure it’s the same woman from that video the other week. She’s got the same raspy voice. She was clearly in the wrong, but the gentleman should have handled the situation better than pointing his umbrella at the woman’s mouth.
Goddamn the subway in Daejeon is boring.
#8
Well, there’s potential to turn this into a competition: “How many vices can one partake in simultaneously on a Korean subway?” I’d bet there would be some creative entries.
화이팅!
#7 I agree. I find it absolutely unbelievable to use that long (and not exactly ‘comforting’ looking) umbrella at the woman’s mouth – there are ways to deal with this – one is to get her to leave or call the appropriate personnel to deal with this in a professional manner.
I do not in any way think that the woman’s behaviour was considerate or just, but I don’t think you’d get away with that kind of ‘umbrella trick’ ANYWHERE. It’s a serious intrusion of private space. Anybody would ‘flip’ if they’d have someone pointing an umbrella at their teeth. The man had it coming.
Sorry.
“The man had it coming.
Sorry.”
No reason to apologize. There is ABSOLUTELY no place in the world where it is appropriate to ask someone to extinguish their cigarette by sticking your umbrella (the business end of it no less) in their face.
The old man could have gotten out of his seat and pushed the button to summons the appropriate assistance at any point. He chose to handle it his own way.
What a riot! What type of beer was that?
I’ve got a theory on this. I think people are deliberately seeking attention through social medias, knowing full well, just about everyone carries a phone with cameras on them.
re #3 & #5 sorry the Bundang and Busan incidents seem to be different….
so, I am correct in saying, 3 ladies smoking on subways in the same month….
(1) the grandmother on the seat on the Bundang video has black jacket & red puma bag
(2) the grandfather with long umbrella has a grey jacket and black pants
(3) the lady smoking has a bright-blue jacket and black pants & beer and no visible bag
……
(1) the grandfather on the Busan picture has a lime-green jacket and red cap
(2) the man standing in front of the lady had a black jacket/pants and white cap
(3) the lady smoking has a grey jacket and black/white bag
………….
3 incidents – 3 different subways – same month
No, the asian correspondent either doesn’t speak Korean or mistakenly wrote Busan when he should have written Bundang.
His post about the Busan Smoking Woman :
http://asiancorrespondent.com/78919/most-read-naver-com-articles-of-the-week-march-25-2012/
Includes actual screen shots from the video of Bundang Smoking Woman :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2oEqm-94lU&feature=player_embedded
2 incidents that are the same incident and 1 incident in this post that is different = 2 incidents.
Screen captures of the same video.
He tricked me??
He doesmn’t translate Korean??
…… but then he has been a “soon to be attorney” for many, many years…..
http://asiancorrespondent.com/author/nschwartzman/
should I stop trusting his web site?
Same disturbed woman for sure, with the same voice.
You can hear her talking to herself before the man noticed she was smoking, a clear sign that she’s mentally disturbed.
I don’t think the woman is in her 30′s. She looks more like in her 50′s.
“You can hear her talking to herself before the man noticed she was smoking, a clear sign that she’s mentally disturbed.”
Hmm…I talk to myself everyday.
I don’t get it..
the people still seem to be wearing different colored clothing in the two different incidents to me…
“I don’t get it..
the people still seem to be wearing different colored clothing in the two different incidents to me…”
Easily explained…. “CUT!” (Wardrobe change) … “ACTION!” “Come on, come on, this time try to appear extra crazy!”
“Hmm…I talk to myself everyday.”
On a subway car full of people?
That’s certainly a strong possibility, but even in a uber-judgmental society like South Korea? I’m not sure if the “any attention from the public = good” mentality can hold.
… Out loud?
There are a few factors I think that are at work in the ‘crazy people on the subway’ internet meme in Korea. I don’t think you should go poking an umbrella in someone’s face though, that’s not a cool thing to do when dealing with someone who seems to be mentally damaged. Calling the subway guards on the appropriate number would be a far better way of dealing with the situation.
I thought on this a tiny bit, here are some possible reasons
i) Almost everyone has a smart phone these days.
ii) ‘Dog shit girl’ was just a still, it attracted huge attention. Some people rather than just ignoring the many mentally ill folks who seem to ride the subway constantly misbehaving, will think that they can make the next ‘DSG’ or ‘crazy ajumma film’.
iii) Mr. ‘Look At These Rocks’ caused rather a big internet commotion with his rather uncivilised behaviour.
iv) Korean men often get up to all sorts of mischief in public, and often don’t get called on it. Korean society is changing quickly. Maybe a women misbehaving in public is still seen as far more outrageous than a man getting up to the same behaviour?
v) Maybe some of these ‘crazy ladies’ are reacting against a lifetime of basically ‘indentured servitude’ to their menfolk, in a twisted way maybe they’re ‘getting their own back’ – revenge.
vi) Subways and public transport is where mentally ill people often gravitate toward all around the world. They can beg, it’s warm, there is shelter, the relatives may not want them in the house, maybe it in some way gives them a feeling of being a ‘normal member of society’.
vii) There is a lot of denial about mental illness in Korea. I have a friend who had a psychotic episode and was ‘sectioned’ for a bit (for self harm). He is a very clever chap indeed, and went on to get a doctorate degree in astrophysics (when he got better). He now makes a small fortune every year in software design and consultancy, is happily married with two lovely kids. The right counselling and the right medication for mental problems can go a long way to solving them.
I use the subway a lot, and if there is a mentally ill person nearby who is causing a problem I just move away. If they were a serious threat to myself or others, I would restrain them only as a last resort.
It doesn’t help that most of the security guards on the trains seem to be about 19, what is he going to say to an ajeoshi or ajumma who is running around going nuts? Mentally ill people need treatment, and I don’t think that ‘umbrella treatment’ helps anyone.
How Theatrical! One has to wonder if she IS the Bundang lady and is possibly:
A. doing performance art
B. part of a viral ad campaign that is waiting for the payoff
C. (I believe this was alluded to above) a self promoting actress hoping to bootstrap herself off of the dubious publicity, not unlike Angelyne of L.A. (in)fame.
CM is right. The woman is insane. She’s not only talking to herself. Watch the expressions on her face and the way that she smokes her cigarette. I wouldn’t be surprised if she were to become even more aggressive and use more than beer as weapon.
Jeffery Hodges
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‘use more than beer as weapon’
When I want to slay the ladies, as it were, I bust out The Frog.
. . . and undertake an amphibious assault!
Jeffery Hodges
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I also noticed that when I first watched the vid.
Either she doesn’t know how to smoke properly…
or
she is very nervous…
the way she handles her cigg is very amateur.
I have this sneaking suspicion that parents previously keeping their mentally ill kids at home are starting to pass on. Without a Mom or Dad to keep an eye on them, shit like this will probably only escalate.
I don’t smell cigarettes…I smell planned street theater. This isn’t just some strange smoker, it’s someone (possibly another passenger recording) who intentionally wants to stirs up controversy.
I just wish the marmot hadn’t spoiled the climax. Woulda been much better theatre if I hadn’t already known the ajosshi was about to wear that beer. I still LOLed a lot, tho.
In the following comment I will channel a redneck Korean ajossi:
At least the culprit wasn’t a NIGGER.
#32,
Isn’t that redundant, ‘redneck adj…’?
Funny how Koehler makes no mention in the strap line of the old guy jabbing a mentally ill woman in the face with a cane then punching her. Call me a wooly liberal, but I was raised never to hit women. Presumably Koehler things the old man’s actions were fully justified. Sad.
Presume away.
These subway incidents remind of riding Greyhound in my college years. At least one looney tunes guaranteed per bus ride.
What with a new loud vendor every five minutes, drunk and hostile ajeossis and a steady stream of nutjobs, I’ll continue to avoid the subway except for the rare special trip.
The subway isn’t that bad, Wedge. This incident does illustrate, though, that it’s usually a bad idea to reprimand crazy folk. Best to let the authorities handle that*, although given what happened last time with this woman (or the woman who keeps assaulting progressive political figures), I wouldn’t expect much from the authorities, either.
*This is something I always have to remind myself, no always successfully.
best beer throw ever!
“Best to let the authorities handle that”
Authorities that have no authority? The 18-yr old boys that dress like cops? Which “authorities” would have handled it?
The ajossi is wrong to use the umbrella, but only an older guy to handle this (he could have grabbed her cig, whatever). The Korean police (or “authorities”) are never respected, so how could them handle this in the first place? Only if 3-4 of them, altogether, would grab the lady, handcuff her, take her way.
There is an interview with her. She has a mental illness.
http://mbn.mk.co.kr/pages/news/newsView.php?news_seq_no=1172724
Fully admitting that she did seriously wrong in the subway, I really feel sad/bad for her she got battered by a passenger. People should have to call the police or 지하철 공익근무 요원 to manage the situation:
http://youtu.be/sXPaOwXSZwU
Anyway, Korean government launched to legally restrict spreading video clips without consent of persons taken picture of in the video.
I mean, if some guy stuck his umbrella in my face, I’d likely lash out too.
What’s the term for that again? Older men who feel a sense of duty to be listened? Like…they’ve earned it in their seniority…
connard
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