More Kim Jong-il links

by Robert Koehler on December 21, 2011

- This just in: North Korean leader Kim Jong-il is still dead. And here are the pictures of his body lying in state to prove it. One of my work colleagues wants to know what’s up with Kim Jong-un’s hair.

- Victor Cha asks if North Korea is set to become China’s newest province:

But even as Beijing sticks close to its little Communist brother, there are intense debates within its leadership about whether the North is a strategic liability. It was one thing to back a hermetic but stable regime under Kim Jong-il; it will be harder to underwrite an untested leadership. For Xi Jinping, expected to become China’s president over the next year, the first major foreign policy decision will be whether to shed North Korea or effectively adopt it as a province.

All indications are that Beijing will pursue the latter course, in no small part because of a bias among its leadership to support the status quo, rather than to confront dramatic change. And yet “adopting” North Korea could be dramatic in itself. China may go all in, doling out early invitations and new assistance packages to the young Mr. Kim, conditioning them on promises of economic reform.

While some observers hope that Kim Jong-il’s death will unleash democratic regime change, China will work strongly against that possibility, especially if such efforts receive support from South Korea or the United States. Given that Beijing has the only eyes inside the North, Washington and Seoul could do little in response.

- Here are some scenarios for Kim Jong-un’s future, none of which are pretty. My money is still on “more of the same,” though.

- According to AEI’s Lara Crouch, there are some wildcards in Kim Jong-un’s succession (HT to reader). I like the AEI—we’re big fans of Nick Eberstadt, as you well know—and I don’t mean to be snobbish, but I do hesitate to accept North Korea prognostication from somebody who seems to think Jong Il, Jong Un, etc. are family names.

- For fans of Christine Ahn, here she is at Democracy Now! discussing North Korea and the death of Kim Jong-il (HT to matheus). Well, I’m sure she’s a lovely woman in person…

- Listen to One Free Korea‘s Joshua Stanton at Coffee & Markets (HT to Hume’s Bastard)

- After you’ve made your way through Christine and Joshua, listen to the WSJ’s Evan Ramstad discuss what’s next for North Korea at CNBC.

- At the Cato Institute’s blog, Doug Bandow thinks we should—sit down for this—withdraw from South Korea:

Washington can do little during this process. The United States should maintain its willingness to talk with the North. American officials also should engage Beijing over the future of the peninsula, exploring Chinese concerns and searching for areas of compromise. For instance, Washington should pledge that there would be no American bases or troops in a reunited Korea, which might ease Beijing’s fears about the impact of a North Korean collapse.

Most important, the Obama administration should not rush to “strengthen” the alliance with South Korea in response to uncertainty in the North. The Republic of Korea is well able to defend itself. It should take the steps necessary to deter North Korean adventurism and develop its own strategies for dealing with Pyongyang. America should be withdrawing from an expensive security commitment which no longer serves U.S. interests.

Kim Jong-il imposed unimaginable hardship on the North Korean people. However, what follows him could be even worse if an uncertain power struggle breaks down into armed conflict. Other than encourage Beijing to use its influence to bring the Kim dynasty to a merciful end, the United States can—and should—do little more than watch developments in the North.

Amen on the “doing little more than watch developments in the North” part. At least for now.

- As stated earlier, I was not in favor of expressing condolences to the North. Being an optimist, I don’t rule out the possibility of something much worse following him. Still, he did no good in this world, and plenty of bad. The Unification Ministry’s condolence statement was OK, I guess, as was the decision to let a few individuals go to the North privately. I suppose I understand why the government also decided not to light the big Xmas tree on the DMZ, too, but it does leave a bad taste in my mouth.

- So where is this from? The KCNA? The Rodong Shinmun?

Yet, the common denominator to all of them was that Kim was a resolute and iconoclastic decision-maker with intense powers of concentration. These qualities were manifested in a dilettante personality, with Kim spending all night working and demonstrating talents and interest in literature and the arts. North Korea scholars are unanimous that the three forces behind his grasp on power as a successor to Kim Il-sung were a combination of his father’s determination, his own ability, and his election by veteran partisans.

Nope, it’s the Hankyoreh! (HT to reader)

- Sometimes it’s easy to forget that these are the “pro-unification” people. I’d have linked to the Chosun Ilbo’s editorial, but it looks like they are still haven’t gotten around to translate it.

- According to the Yomiuri Shimbun (via the Seoul Shinmun), North Korea is not comfortable with foreigners—including Russians and Chinese—in their country right now. One Chinese who went to North Korea on business said foreigners were being thrown off trains for not crying.

- Finally, Ampontan comments on all the crying in North Korea:

Finally, taking all the responses as a whole, there is the unmistakable whiff of an attitude of cultural superiority as they watch others make a spectacle out of themselves. Civilized people are more seemly in their grief. There’s quite a lot of that sort of thing on the Web these days, by the way — couched in intellectualism and scientific detachment, of course.

Well, I think that’s partially true, especially when you read some comments about the public displays of grief in South Korea. To be honest, though, it’s not just Westerners who find the North Korean behavior odd—a lot of South Koreans find it weird, too. Many cried when Kim Dae-jung and Roh Moo-hyun died, but it just wasn’t the same as we’re seeing in Pyongyang (to be fair, though, Park Chung-hee did get the crying treatment in 1979). Barbara Demick does a good job explaining the North Korean crying:

How does a whole crowd fake tears? Barbara Demick, in “Nothing to Envy,” her book on the ravaged social landscape of North Korea, collected accounts of how ordinary North Koreans set themselves to just that task after the death of Kim’s father, Kim Il-sung, back in 1994: “It was like a staring contest. Stare. Cry. Stare. Cry,” a student told her. “Eventually, it became mechanical. The body took over where the mind left off and suddenly he was really crying. He felt himself falling to his knees, rocking back and forth, sobbing just like everyone else.”
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“Those waiting in line would jump up and down, pound their heads, collapse into theatrical swoons, rip their clothes and pound their fists at the air in futile rage. The men wept as copiously as the women.

The histrionics of grief took on a competitive quality. Who could weep the loudest? The mourners were egged on by the TV news, which broadcast hours and hours of people wailing, grown men with tears rolling down their cheeks, banging their heads on trees, sailors banging their heads agains the masts of their ships, pilots weeping in the cockpit, and so on. These scenes were interspersed with footage of lightning and pouring rain. It looked like Armageddon.”

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1 milton December 21, 2011 at 2:32 pm

I think the governments moves with regards to condolences and 애기봉 were sensible and appropriate. KJU is a tabula resa as far as I’m concerned, so I think there’s some merit in the argument that SK should not antagonize him or rule him out as a “partner for peace” right away. I’ll wait a few weeks before I unleash my vitriole. Let’s see what he does (though I’m not optimistic).

2 SomeguyinKorea December 21, 2011 at 2:52 pm

#1,

I was equally optimistic (not very much) when Bashar al-Assad took over the role of his father.

3 babotaengi December 21, 2011 at 3:10 pm

I too am anticipating confirmation that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

4 Benjamin Wagner December 21, 2011 at 4:47 pm

Does anyone know if the NK propaganda apparatus ever released any images of Kim Jong-il crying at the death of Kim Il-sung in 1994? I don’t recall any and didn’t see any during quick search of google’s and naver’s image database.

What I do remember were images like this one showing KJI as a strong, collected and comforting presence in a world knocked out of balance and a people crippled with grief:
http://mickhartley.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451ebab69e201310f42b90a970c-550wi

I mention this since I’m fairly surprised to see the still and video images of Kim Jong-un with tears streaming down his face at his father’s funeral. He certainly doesn’t cut the type of figure the propaganda apparatus created for Kim Jong-il at his father’s death.

5 Benjamin Wagner December 21, 2011 at 5:20 pm

Just took a look at Kim Il-sung’s funeral footage and there is a strategic long shot of KJI casually removing his glasses and patting his eyes dry as he strolled around the coffin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrvIM1ENcbA&

Quite different from Jong-un’s “울먹” distraught expression.

6 Hume's Bastard December 21, 2011 at 6:47 pm

I think many of us are missing a big point (that is, if we want to indulge any optimism and not just pray for the collapse of the odious regime): there is now a weak executive. There are institutions of government, like the Defense Commission from whence came KJI’s official title. There is more than one official vying for power, even if most are in the family. How far do we want to believe that KJU is just a modern version of a monarch?

Measured in Korean time, this might be like the CCCP replacing the Czar. How can be we not be pleased by that even if a Putin comes around in a 100 years and tries to make the Communist Party into a rapid nationalist one. We have markets, too. From the standpoint of someone who has a Korean family that will have to pay for any unification scheme, I’ll take any progress that saves me money.

7 Hume's Bastard December 21, 2011 at 6:53 pm

@#4: Those North Koreans could really wail and grind in ’94. Some of officers couldn’t even bow correctly. I don’t think these guys really loved KJI the way they did the Great Leader.

8 Benjamin Wagner December 21, 2011 at 7:36 pm

@7

I don’t think these guys really loved KJI the way they did the Great Leader.

Agreed. What’s your take on the foreign press’ obsession with the “fake” tears? While the public certainly didn’t love KJI as much as the eternal president, I think they loved him plenty thus the tears.

Also, foreign news sources are reporting KJU’s uncle is going to be guiding the untested youngster. Perhaps that’s why he was allowed to show more grief. His 불쌍한 image may also have been calculated to court sympathy as a brave face wasn’t necessary since there was no way to sell the people on his being prepared to take the reins of power.

9 Hume's Bastard December 21, 2011 at 7:49 pm

I think Ampontan’s post is a step in the right direction. Americans don’t understand “han”, or Confucian philosophy. It’s easy to see all this as “totalitarian”, or brainwashing (there is no such process, BTW), but Americans make a fetish out of cognitive psychology.

I’m cautiously optimistic about a weak executive guided by 20-year old institutions and family elders, and the emergence of markets. Maybe the man was acting earnestly, or at least in a way he thought was appropriate. I know by experience that, when performing these rituals, other people notice an individual’s habits. My family often knocks me for being too formal and trying to do everything perfectly. I lost my balance once when bowing, and everyone loved it. I think we saw a performance that someone decided meant something. It’s possible the government wanted to communicate, that KJI was not as important as the Great Leader, and that that’s progress.

10 Granfalloon December 21, 2011 at 8:36 pm

I’m going to bastardize some B.R. Myers here and say that the foreign media’s take on the hysterical North Korean tears stems from a general inability of the West to recognize that a lot of North Koreans do not hate their country. I have no doubt that there are some people in North Korea who are genuinely saddened by KJI’s death, and not just among his lackey elites.

Of course, though, Jong Il is no Il Sung.

11 Benjamin Wagner December 21, 2011 at 9:34 pm

@1o

That sounds about right.

12 slim December 21, 2011 at 9:46 pm

I would avoid following Ampontan down his rabbit hole of reaction, slippery tendentiousness and egregious cherry-picking to support his points. He has a hard-on for Western journalists every bit as obnoxious and nearly as irrational as our poor pawi’s fixation on white men and English teachers. Nearly every time he goes off on a rant tarring the “Western media” for the sins of one journalist or article he finds on the web (even where that criticism is deserved and spot-on), it is always easy to find mainstream counter examples:

http://www.cbs8.com/story/16368109/loss-fear-threats-drive-north-koreas-mass-grief is one of many.

The Japanese media, and also as Robert noted South Koreans, also find the histrionics odd and naturally wonder how genuine it is.

Would Ampontan pose as a wise and sensitive cultural anthropologist if these Korean histrionics were directed at his cherished Japan? I don’t think so.

13 Benjamin Wagner December 21, 2011 at 9:58 pm

@10

Interesting quote from Myers on the tears:

“The tears the people are shedding are not tears of sadness but tears of fear and uncertainty about the future,” Myers said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia-pacific/cue-the-tears-loss-fear-coercion-and-self-interest-drive-north-koreas-mass-grief-over-kim/2011/12/21/gIQAKjGx8O_story_1.html

14 slim December 22, 2011 at 12:32 am

GOP candidate Rick Perry referred to the late KJI as Kim Jong The Second!

15 Charles Tilly December 22, 2011 at 2:00 am

John Williams at the New York Times rounds up a North Korea reading list. Of course, there are the usual suspects (i.e. Bruce Cumings, B.R. Myers, Bradley Martin, Barbara Demick, etc…) I just thought I’d take the time to offer up my own suggestions. There are two in particular.

1) Charles K. Armstrong, The North Korean Revolution, 1945-1950

2) And anything that’s available at the Woodrow Wilson Center’s North Korea International Documentation Project. Do be sure to check out their briefing books as well as the working papers that they’ve published over the last few years. The one by Mitchell Lerner is an excellent read, IMHO.

And for those of you who read Korean and perhaps want something a bit more detailed and expansive than what Charles Armstrong discusses in his North Korea book, do have a look at 서동만’s titanic 북조선사회주의 체제성립사 1945-1961.

16 Q December 22, 2011 at 3:18 am

짱개들아, 쓰레기나 주어가라.

http://news.nate.com/view/20111221n09541

17 CactusMcHarris December 22, 2011 at 3:44 am

CT,

Thanks much for the extensive list and your recommendations. I’ve got some heavy reading coming up, but there’s also Mr. Church, right?

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2010/09/why_dont_more_north_koreans_defect.html

18 gbevers December 22, 2011 at 4:45 am

Chales Tilly wrote (#15):

And for those of you who read Korean and perhaps want something a bit more detailed and expansive than what Charles Armstrong discusses in his North Korea book, do have a look at 서동만’s titanic 북조선사회주의 체제성립사 1945-1961.

Have you read that 1048 page book on “The History of North Korea’s Socialist System Between 1945-1961,” Charles?

Who in their right mind would read such a book? The only people I can think of are his poor students, prisoners on the severe punishment list of a North Korean concentration camp, and megalomaniacal psychopaths interested in creating a society of over-the-top, brown-nosing lemmings with human-like appearance and calluses on the clapping sides of the their much abused hands.

19 lastnamekim December 22, 2011 at 5:21 am

Regarding Kim Jung Un’s hair….if you look at the younger pics of Kim Il Sung, you’ll see the same hairstyle (slightly long on top/front and buzzed on the sides). Maybe KJU did that on purpose to bring out similarities with his worshipped grandfather.

20 Hume's Bastard December 22, 2011 at 9:05 am

@#13:

Myers should know better than to be snookered by a performance. Can you say, “confirmation bias”?

21 Charles Tilly December 22, 2011 at 9:23 am

Have you read that 1048 page book on “The History of North Korea’s Socialist System Between 1945-1961,” Charles?

Not in its entirety. But I have read a sizable number of sections. Really, even from the portions that I’ve been able to read in some detail, I highly recommend it.

22 CactusMcHarris December 22, 2011 at 11:33 am

#18,

Not having read it, but why do you make such disparaging remarks about what appears to be genuine scholarship?

23 Q December 22, 2011 at 2:10 pm

gbevers wrote:

Who in their right mind would read such a book? The only people I can think of are his poor students, prisoners on the severe punishment list of a North Korean concentration camp, and megalomaniacal psychopaths interested in creating a society of over-the-top, brown-nosing lemmings with human-like appearance and calluses on the clapping sides of the their much abused hands.

gbevers, do thou amend thy face and I’ll amend my life.

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