HIV test exempted for entertainment visas, but not English teachers?

by Robert Koehler on October 27, 2010

OK, this has me completely bewildered:

The Ministry of Health and Welfare said it will scrap compulsory human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) tests for foreigners seeking to acquire an entertainer’s E-6 visa, and workers renewing their E-9 visas here.

However, the tests will still be required of those seeking E-2 language teaching visas.

Currently, those who are applying to come to Korea on the E-6 visa for more than 91 days should either submit HIV testing, or take a test within 72 hours on arrival.

The E-6 is issued to those seeking to work in bars, in hotels as singers or dancers, and athletes playing for local sports teams. About 4,000 such visas are issued every year.

Now, one might say that if there are visa holders who should be tested, it’s the E-6s. Clearly, though, that opinion is not shared by the Ministry of Health and Welfare:

“We’ve decided to ease the rules as HIV is not transmitted through air or water but through human contact most of the time,” ministry official Jeong Eun-gyeong said, explaining the reason behind the revision.

Fair enough. But what about English teachers on the E-2? Well, they still get to submit HIV tests:

“Education is considered a very intimate relationship. According to an unofficial survey by the Prime Minister’s Office, the majority of parents wanted solid evidence of their children’s teachers’ HIV status,” said an official of the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology.

To be fair, he also said the continuation was meant more to reassure parents and that the government was considering repealing the E-2 tests, too.

Blogger tharp42 didn’t think much of the measure, either.

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1 Yu Bum Suk October 27, 2010 at 2:09 pm

Could be they’re worried about pro-athletes getting pissed off.

2 Craash October 27, 2010 at 2:57 pm

Got me confused ALSO.

“We’ve decided to ease the rules as HIV is not transmitted through air or water but through human contact most of the time,” ministry official Jeong Eun-gyeong said, explaining the reason behind the revision.

Aren’t the Russian/etc “ladies” brought here to “satisfy mens needs/desire” in parlors/bars etc – the ones who get E-6 and E-9 visas?

They have LOTS of “intimate human contact”.

“Education is considered a very intimate relationship”…..

LOL> Teachers are expected to be “intimate” with their students?

I think they have things mixed up.

3 aaronm October 27, 2010 at 3:55 pm

In all fairness, I think they clamped down years ago on those E6 hooker, errm, entertainer visas for Philippinas and Russians. They started disappearing en masse from entertainment precincts around 2004, not long after I started working in Korea.

4 Granfalloon October 27, 2010 at 3:58 pm

Korea: hub of “you can’t make this shit up.”

Prediction: this will lead to an increase in HIV among the Korean population, which will be blamed on . . . wait for it . . . English teachers.

Oh, and on a slightly related note, I just sent away for my third criminal record check in three years. Why would I need three checks if I’ve been in Korea the whole time? Because fuck you, that’s why.

5 feld_dog October 27, 2010 at 5:29 pm

Last I checked, Texas Street in Busan had plenty o’ “Entertainers.” What VISA they were on, I don’t know.

6 aaronm October 27, 2010 at 5:31 pm

Probably Russian girls who come down on the boat from Vladivostok for the shopping and augment their income with a bit of hostess work. At least that is what one Texas Street girl told me she was doing last time I was there.

7 R. Elgin October 27, 2010 at 6:47 pm

Korean Immigration or rather the Ministry of Justice is very screwed up in their enforcement of visa offenders as well. Musical artists are supposed to come over on an E6 visa to perform but, as of now, there are quite a few people over here on other types of visas, (C3, etc.) from Germany, Canada, etc, playing in clubs and have been doing so openly for two years or more.

I really wonder if a promoter really needs to bother with paying for an E6 visa, considering the lack of interest.

8 Craash October 27, 2010 at 7:26 pm

re# 4 (Oh, and on a slightly related note, I just sent away for my third criminal record check in three years. Why would I need three checks if I’ve been in Korea the whole time? )

News JUST IN today –

Immigration has decided to delay their new E2 regulations until 2012.
Starting 2012, Immigration will take Federal apostilled CRC and copy of diploma apostilled for visa renewals.

If you are already started on the Federal CRC apostilled, don’t worry and you can turn them in early and not worry about it in the future.
This has been a big mess but Immigration is going to be delaying it for a year.

9 seouldout October 27, 2010 at 8:02 pm

From what I’ve learnt here these English teachers are pretty dodgy characters. Active monitoring is required. I’m thinking curfews and ankle bracelets. Moreover, a lot of these fellas tend to holiday in Thailand, Cambodia and the Philippines. Perhaps as a condition of their employment the gov’t ought to write up a list of forbidden countries. Can’t have these lads passing an HIV test here, becoming infected in Pattaya, and then bringing it back to pass on to the kiddies, can we?

10 Benjamin Wagner October 27, 2010 at 10:17 pm

While it remains to be seen whether anything will really become of this (there’s been no official notice and there’s nothing in the Korea press about it, and it is a KT article after all), if the government does decide to move forward on the issue it’s definitely a step in the right direction.

For the E-9 laborers’ it’s a long time coming. The human rights abuses have been well documented by Amnesty Int’l , and complaints have been filed with the NHRCK where, unfortunately, they’ve sat unanswered since last year.

As for the legitimacy of AIDS tests for E-6 visa holders, it’s more complex since the E-6 visa category is a real mess. AIDS tests for sex workers obviously make sense and people working as sex workers want such tests to be made available, but it should be recalled that the E-6 is not a de jure “sex worker visa”. One of the early complainants (2003) on AIDS tests under the E-6 was the Japanese actress Yuko Fueki aka “유민,” who is certainly not a sex-worker.

The E-6 is supposed to be an “Arts & Entertainment” visa, but it’s really become a catchall visa that includes much more:

Creative artists such as composers, painters, sculptors, handicraftsmen, writers or photographers . . . [t]hose that direct activities related to music, fine arts, literature, musical performance, dance, movie . . . manager of professional sports team or the conductor of an orchestra . . . [those who] profit through performing arts such as entertainment, music, play, sports, advertisement, fashion model, and others of the like. [KIS]

That said, the E-6 has become a de facto sex worker visa category for some, especially in for Filipinas servicing US GIs in the kichich’on clubs. There were nearly 3,000 E-6/E-62 visa issued to women from the Philippines in 2008 (out of a total of about 4,500 in 2008). But how of these many women are actually working as sex workers and of those how many were told that they were intended to work as sex workers is another question. Also, there are relatively few Russian & Ukraine women on E-6 visas (only about 160 in 2008). Word from the KIS is that the E-6 will be phased out or re-worked, but who knows. One hopes that if Korea and the US military want to invite foreign sex workers to Korea they will be straightforward about it with the women and with the construction of an appropriate visa category.

As for professional athletes, there is discussion (especially in different types of contact sports) about the risk of AIDS transmission, experts agree that while the risk is low (e.g. a study on the NFL found it to be less than one infection in 85.6 million game contacts), it’s not zero. But the consensus is for risk prevention, voluntary testing and treatment rather than mandatory tests. The Nevada Boxing Commission, however, did have mandatory tests in place for some time; I’m uncertain whether the rule is still in place, it may be.

As for AIDS testing foreign teachers on E-2 visas, I don’t think there’s any cause for bewilderment as far as the MOE’s position on the issue — they’ve been extremely forthcoming:

The continuation [of AIDS tests for E-2s] does not mean the government regards foreign teachers to be HIV positive or have the potential of transmission ― it is just intended to assure the parents. [KT]

There’s no need to look for a rational explanation for the testing since that’s not the argument being advanced. As former Nat. Assm. Rep Sohn Hak-kyu taught us back in 2008:

Public perception is no less important than rational judgment.

The public is afraid (the Prime Minister’s office released a survey citing 80% of the Korean public in favor of the E-2 AIDS tests) and the MOE has, albeit misguidedly, decided that mandatorily AIDS testing foreign teachers will reassure them. Whether the public is afraid that children will get the disease through a “How are you? I’m fine, thank you” lesson or whether the concern stems from fears of child molestation or through consensual unprotected sex with Korean females is a mixed and muddled matter – but the fear is clear enough.

While AIDS awareness and education is seriously lacking in Korea, there’s nothing particularly Korean about the fear of AIDS or the desire to exclude teachers with HIV/AIDS from the classroom.

The US was going through the same panic back in the 80s. In 1987 an Orange County California school wanted to exclude a teacher with AIDS from the classroom and one of the school’s main arguments was that while the experts might know the threat to students was negligible, the community did not. How much fear of AIDS was there in America in 1987? An Oprah show from ’87 on the issue is a shocking reminder.

In the court case that resulted from the Orange County school’s decision to fire the teacher the court acknowledge that while the fears were very real it wasn’t going to offer up the rights of the teacher in symbolic appeasement to public fears or parental pressure:

The Court recognizes the concern and fear which is flowing from this small community, particularly from the parents of school age children in DeSoto County. However, the Court may not be guided by such community fear [or] parental pressure . . . These obstacles, real as they may be, cannot be allowed to vitiate [individuals’] rights …’

Whether the Korean Constitutional Court will take a similar approach to mandatory AIDS tests for E-2s (where the plaintiff representing the class does not even have HIV/AIDS) is an open question.

11 Adams-awry October 27, 2010 at 11:34 pm

? Koehler

12 george m October 28, 2010 at 1:06 am

Once these English teachers begin to flex their verbs and adjectives there’s no telling what horrid diseases can be contracted.

13 setnaffa October 28, 2010 at 5:04 am

It’s because Korea is turning into a gay love nest…

Or haven’t you folks been watching TV… They are filling the airwaves with folks that make Richard Simmons look macho…

They just don’t want “undesirables” teaching their kids… Apparently the folks in power don’t see gay entertainers as a risk group for HIV…

14 jefferyhodges October 28, 2010 at 5:54 am

English teachers are all such cunning linguists that HIV-testing is sorely needed.

Jeffery Hodges

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15 setnaffa October 28, 2010 at 6:58 am

JH, I thought that from my time reading Korean blogs… Most ESL folks are in at least three fewer risk groups than most “entertainers”…

16 Zilchy October 28, 2010 at 7:07 am

#8 Craash

They’ll be delaying it for more than a year or removing it completely, prior to 2012. The increase in the time delay for those not already in country will make the process obscene.

They will need the best minds in the kingdom on this one, or accept the reality that a certain number of people are bound to do stupid things and this is not reflective of the whole. I digress. My blood pressure is up!

17 Phnoy October 28, 2010 at 1:57 pm

they should not do that to english teachers…

18 cmm October 28, 2010 at 4:02 pm

“Hug AIDS.”

Anyone else seen that public service announcement campaign in Korea?

19 Benjamin Wagner October 28, 2010 at 5:47 pm
20 wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 October 29, 2010 at 10:03 am

i think a sock puppet here used to be in Korea on a teacher visa.

I am FOR HIV testing.

21 wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 October 29, 2010 at 10:18 am

Testing in Taiwan, CANADA, China, Austrailia, hmm, BIG hmmmmm

I also found a link where Germany also tests.

Before late 2009, USA also tested foreigners for HIV, although only for applications for permanent residency, citizenship.

22 wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 October 29, 2010 at 10:19 am

all these hypocritical Canadians.

23 SomeguyinKorea November 1, 2010 at 1:21 pm

My whole take on this is that it would be nice if they picked a policy and stuck with it instead of flip-flopping every 6 months to the whim of grandstanding politicians.

24 wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 November 1, 2010 at 1:26 pm

no it’s not. You got something stuck in your mouth when I correctly point out that Canada does the same thing.

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