Interracial sex and marriage is a favorite topic of discussion here… and now we have the stats to go along with the mudslinging (.pdf)!
Read the Pew report on your own, but Oliver Wang notes in the Atlantic:
TNC has delved into interracial marriage trends within the African American community at some length so I won’t retread those discussions. I did want to highlight some of the trends amongst Asian Americans, who, according to the Pew study, are the most likely to outmarry (30 percent of newlywed Asians are not married to Asians).
Within the Asian American community, this trend has existed for decades and is a never-ending source of debate and tension. The dumbed down version (emphasis on “dumb”) usually finds Asian men accusing Asian women of selling them out in favor of (usually) White men but once you start to look at the newlywed data, it seems that regardless of sex, if you’re an American-born Asian, the odds of you marrying a non-Asian skyrocket (and if a study looked at inter-Asian-ethnic marriages amongst American-born men and women, I’d guarantee the percentage would be even higher).
Some 40 percent of Asian women outmarry, compared to only 20 percent of Asian men…and surprisingly, this gap has grown since 1980, when the ratio was 1.5:1 instead of 2:1. But that’s looking at all Asians, regardless of generation. For example, about one-third of foreign-born Asian women outmarry compared to roughly half of American-born Asian women. Among men though, while about 12 percent of foreign-born Asian men outmarry, that percentage nearly quadruples to 42 percent when you’re counting American-born Asian men. In other words, 1 out 2 American-born Asian women outmarry, 2 out of 5 American-born Asian men do the same; that’s not a huge difference and certainly showers cold water on the overheated idea that Asian women are “abandoning their people” in droves. Sex has little to do with it; generation is a far more powerful indicator.
(HT to reader)
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When you represent just 3% of a population, marrying outside your race should not be surprising.
“The dumbed down version (emphasis on “dumb”) usually finds Asian men accusing Asian women of selling them out in favor of (usually) White men…”
Oliver Wang has really nailed a few TMH frequent commentors … and you know who you are.
Bingo.
Wow. Koreans in Korea aren’t allowed to tell mixed children that they should die, and now Koreans in America aren’t allowed to accuse their women of being race traitors.
Tough week to be an asshole.
Exactly. Or to put it another way, when 97% of potential partners are not of your own race, it follows that there’s a high chance you’ll fall in love with one of them (as opposed to one of your own 3%).
The fact that only 70% of asians are sticking to the very small 3% pool when choosing their mate is a more interesting statistic. So is the disparity between sexes.
The same can be said for whitey in Korea. It’s no secret that western men often end up in relationships with Korean women in the ROK. To me that’s hardly surprising, given that on any given day and moment, somewhere in the order of 99% of the women around them are – sit down for this – Korean women.
Obviously, in the western context, there are presures applied within asian communities to marry within the group, and this no doubt accounts for why so many steer away from the larger pool.
This stat is do with Asian American which is mostly Chinese and Indian & Filipinos + SE Asian.
Should have been:
The fact that 70% of asians are sticking to the very small 3% pool when choosing their mate is a more interesting statistic.
@hoju_saram
I always liked hearing from my white friends in Korea that the pickings were slim…in both genders. Something along the lines of like, “God, it was great to go back to the U.S. because I got to see so many hot guys/girls.”
Wait–I recall reading that Asians and Latinos were outmarrying LESS, now that broader immigration has filled up the dating pool beyond you, your sister, and your cousins.
Asian women have been running, and continue to run, a full-time, non-stop Affirmative Action Program of Pussy for White Guys. No amount of studies changes this fact.
Furthermore, white guys talking about interracial dating amongst Asian-Americans is a bit like listening to big oil companies talking about the virtues of drilling in the oceans. Of course they’re OK with it, because it favors THEM!
Political Correctness is a lie. It’s main purpose is to give everyone a false sense of equality when in fact, no such thing exists.
That is how the group in power maintains the status quo. They want you to pretend that the 800 pound gorilla in the room doesn’t exist. If no one talks about the problem, then eventually people start thinking there is no problem in society, hence there is no problem to be resolved.
All they require are some gullible and stupid minorities to buy into their double-talk. Unfortunately, there are too many minorities incapable of independent thought and too willing to just assume a cowardly Ostrich Position because truth is too uncomfortable for them.
Asian women have been running, and continue to run, a full-time, non-stop Affirmative Action Program of Pu**y for White Guys. No amount of studies changes this fact.
Furthermore, white guys talking about interracial dating amongst Asian-Americans is a bit like listening to big oil companies talking about the virtues of drilling in the oceans. Of course they’re OK with it, because it favors THEM!
Political Correctness is a lie. It’s main purpose is to give everyone a false sense of equality when in fact, no such thing exists.
That is how the group in power maintains the status quo. They want you to pretend that the 800 pound gorilla in the room doesn’t exist. If no one talks about the problem, then eventually people start thinking there is no problem in society, hence there is no problem to be resolved.
All they require are some gullible and stupid minorities to buy into their double-talk. Unfortunately, there are too many minorities incapable of independent thought and too willing to just assume a cowardly Ostrich Position because truth is too uncomfortable for them.
Mmmmhh i gave just a quick glance to these stats so i can’t tell for sure but it looks like the biggest contribution in the spike of interracial marriages in the past 30 years was actually due to a much larger amount of white women marrying black guys.
Strangely enough i never heard of white guys, not even in conservative circles, making disparaging comments about white women running affirmative action programs for dumb niggas…wait maybe all the angst against Barack Hussein is code words exactly for that.
Truly from me and mostly my kid, who after havin been abandoned by his white mother has found a person who deals with his many problems always with a smile on her face, a heartfelt FUCK OFF
The way you’ve phrased this reveals much about you, while contributing little or nothing to the discussion.
The fact that you repeatedly refer to interracial dating as a problem is also very telling.
Truly from me and mostly my kid, who after havin been abandoned by his white mother has found a person who deals with his many problems always with a smile on her face, a heartfelt FUCK OFF
Sorry. I made an error in my statement. I left something out…
Asian women are world-renown for running, and for continuing to run, a full-time, non-stop Affirmative Action Program of Pu**y for White Guys.
Damn NK… you got a lot of bitterness there.
If it makes you feel any better I do have a KA friend who recently married a White former Playboy model. Their marriage even made the press:
http://www.vegasnews.com/17639/host-of-playboy-morning-show-andrea-lowell-and-james-kim-marry-in-vegas-party-at-playboy-club.html
I ran into them last weekend while I was at a Korean bbq event and they just stopped by before they had to head to a party at the Hefner mansion later that night.
The fact that you repeatedly refer to interracial dating as a problem is also very telling.
http://fredoneverything.net/Dating.shtml
Where I live, the sight of a black guy walking with a (usually blonde) white woman is no longer startling, although many are not at all happy about it. The media celebrate interracial dating as A Good Thing, showing that irrational prejudices are at last dying out and a better world is coming into existence. The national problem is finally going away.
In the long run they may be right. More is involved, though, than boy-meets-girl.
Black men in this country have always been fascinated by white women, at times almost obsessed, because of the forbidden-fruit principle. Until recently, the social message, often explicit, was that blacks weren’t good enough to touch a white woman. Bitterness runs deep in black men over this. (This is hardly a secret. Read the first chapter of Soul On Ice.)
The social order is now changing. While black men enjoy a new world, black women (if the television specials are right) don’t much like it. Although blacks oppose discrimination by color, they have always held to a color code among themselves by which lighter women were better. This preference by their men angers black women — dark women who get overlooked, light ones pursued chiefly for their color, and black women in general, who resent losing, every time. (White women, incidentally, at least some of them, similarly resent Asian women, who charm white men by virtue of their femininity and looks. Asian women, however, are few enough as not to pose a real threat.)
The media and advertising industry understand the color code perfectly. Note how often, when you see a black man and woman on a magazine cover, the woman is lighter. And how few dark women show up at all.
Hostility arises that doesn’t meet the eye. On average, white men hate to see black men dating whites. (So do a whole lot of white women.) In places like Washington people won’t say so publicly. Privately they do.
Human behavior usually consists of rational justification of limbic instincts. A powerful instinct of all males is to protect their women from outsiders. People of other colors are outsiders. In slave days, black men were furious that they could not prevent sexual access to their women by white men. Today, the role is being reversed. Black guys know it, and revel in it. White men don’t like to admit their resentment because to do so underlines their inability to do anything about it.
It’s more than dating. It’s potentially explosive sexual competition.
Instincts involving sex aren’t always obvious, but they are there, and powerful. An example: I like the Japanese, have great respect for their intelligence individually and for their society (extraordinarily productive, unfailingly courteous, almost free of crime.) Yet if my daughter told me she planned to marry a Japanese boy of impeccable credentials, I’d nonetheless feel a visceral resentment. I wouldn’t act on it, but I’d feel it. By contrast, if my son told me he planned to marry a similarly admirable Japanese girl, I’d think he was one lucky guy. The instinct is to protect the women, not the men.
Sex as a weapon of conquest, of struggle for dominance among males, is a dark corner of human behavior that we don’t talk about. It exists. Raping the women of one’s enemies has been a common military practice until recent times — American armies have done it — and still is if one believes reports from Yugoslavia.
White men regularly had their way with slave women, and you can believe that dominance, as well as sex, was involved. Dinesh D’Souza,* the Indian-born scholar now at the American Enterprise Institute, noted in his The End of Racism, (page 408, from FBI statistics) “. . . in 1991 there were 100 cases of white rapists assaulting black victims compared with more than 20,000 cases of black rapists attacking white victims — a result that is especially remarkable considering that rapes are usually perpetrated not just for sex but in order to control, dominate, and humiliate women.” And also, he doesn’t add, their men.
Where white women fit into interracial dating is less clear. Black men are physically more attractive than white, being better built and more muscular — and usually able to beat the stuffing out of white men, which whites of both sexes know. They are also unapologetically masculine (and misogynist, but that can be played down when useful), more assertive, and often charming. White-collar Caucasian men these days tend to be neutered, carefully inoffensive, and in general browbeaten by militant feminism. It is easy to see how a white woman who wanted a masculine man would find a good-looking black guy appealing. Also, given that white women today seem to dislike white men almost as much as blacks do, dating a black guy may be a way of getting even.
There’s a whole lot more going on here than boy meets girl.
The media, particularly television and the movies, have recently begun vigorously promoting interracial liaisons. The number of blacks on television in general has risen sharply. Why, I don’t know, not being privy to the councils of Hollywood. Perhaps it’s just political correctness.
On the other hand, a lot of folk believe that the only way out of our racial impasse is to breed ourselves into one in-between race. Blacks are not going to go back to Africa, say these folk correctly, nor whites to Europe. Therefore we either blend or stay forever divided. The logic to this point is hard to refute.
Our customary division on racial lines isn’t satisfactory, runs this argument. It promotes injustice, and may be dangerous: The country really could go up in flames. Therefore the sooner we intermarry, the sooner our racial antagonisms will disappear. The truth of this theory is much less clear, but is not insane by any means. It seems to be what’s being promoted.
Where are we headed? Certainly toward a whole lot more dating and intermarriage: This is a cork that won’t go back into the bottle. In the long run, if no explosion occurs, the country will probably evolve toward the example of Brazil. Whether the consequence in the short run will be improvement in racial relations is far less certain.
The effects for a long time will be mainly psychological, as statistically significant blending won’t occur soon. Too many blacks live in insular ghettoes, speak Ebonics, and are barely socialized. For them, the prospects of intermarriage are small. The better educated and well-spoken may marry whites, but the vast urban enclaves will remain behind, slowly growing.
Maybe things will work out well. I hope so. But it ain’t just true love
Bah let’s try to take a look at this with a cool head: if this is what you’re implying i never had any yellow fever and i’m not aware of any Asian woman fetish around here as most Asian women are either poor Chinese immigrants generally as attractive as a fraudolent tax inspection or rich, petulant Japanese chicks shopping relentlessly and nothing else.
The Korean music students are too small of a population to even register. Neither of them seem to give any particular confidence to local guys, and the feeling is pretty much mutual.
Now i know perfectly nobody gives a shit about this scumbucket, miserable sorry ass of a nation (except when we threaten to ignite some Eurozone apocalypse) but technically the affirmative action program doesn’t work for the whole white world
PS
North of Florence where most of the Asians are concentrated we are considered fully white, even by white supremacists
Wanky, I am not interested tales of your friends hooking up with Playboy bimbos. There are larger issues at stake here.
Not all PB models are bimbos. James and Andrea met while they were undergrads in college (a to be undisclosed University of California school).
Plus… they didn’t “hook-up.” They are married.
Let me break down this concept: i can’t speak for the whole white population but this white man doesn’t say anything about blacks gettin fancy with the blondies cos he doesn’t give a GIGANTIC FLYING SHIT about who fuck who
I thought you promised no more Fred Reed cut and paste.
“Asian women have been running, and continue to run, a full-time, non-stop Affirmative Action Program of Pu**y for White Guys. No amount of studies changes this fact.”
Is Netizen Kim really thinking – “Asian people have been running prostitution, a full-time, non-stop, “world renowned”, Affirmative Action Program of Pu**y for all people of the world in theirs and other countries for centuries. NO AMOUNT OF STUDIES CHANGES THIS FACT”.
Or maybe this – “Asian males absolutely dispise with complete jealousy and rage the fact that Asian women have been running and continue to run, a full-time, non-stop Affirmative Action Program of Pu**sy for White Guys. No amount of studies changes this fact”.
Korean specific for Mr. Kim – “Korean male “gangsters” force Korean women into prostitution by “illegally” running full time, non-stop Affirmative Action Programs of Pu**y for many types of guys (if they are deemed worthy for any number of zaney reasons). No amount of studies changes this fact”.
I really wish more non-Asian women were marrying, dating Asian males. I believe this MIGHT take some pressure off the Asian women in select countries who CHOOSE non-Asian male partners in any capacity.
Netizen Kim, what’s with you? Get a grip! Love’s not that complicated. It involves a man, and a woman. Do you fancy Sonagi, is that it?
Is it your way of trying to get the attention of a white woman?
Netizen Kim – I truly enjoyed your “U.S. Social Ills” post. In general, I absolutely agree with everything you wrote.
I am having a hard time understanding how you compose a post consisting of “Asian Women”, “Affirmative Action” and “Pu**y” and then compose a very nice piece on the underlying “social” and “racial” ills of the U.S.
Did you transition from Asian male anger to the reasoning for that anger?
More interesting is the fact that in your “Social Ills” post, you mentioned white women and white men, black women and black men and Asian women. No mention of how Asian men fit into the psychological realities of inter-racial relationships in the U.S.
Glad to know i’m not the only one who had that impression
He fancies Fred Reed.
Kim – Oops, I skipped over the link you provided which verifies the author of “your post”. Solly!!!! Don’t I feel like an ass. Not the first time and certainly won’t be the last.
I think Netizen Kim has the hots for Pawi…
To NetizenKim:
Post #14 was one fucking HILARIOUS piece of drivel. LMAO. Who knew that a mixture of sexual frustration, dreams dashed, and pop politics, psychology, and philosophy could be so massively entertaining.
Usually the above don’t go together well, but you sure pulled it off.
BRAVO!!!
Well, most women usually like flowers and flowers made of diamonds and sparkly things, but not rubbish arguments which are long. Just leave it home when you’re trying to pull.
Oliver Wang so has NK’s number that I must repeat his words: “The dumbed down version (emphasis on “dumb”) usually finds Asian men accusing Asian women of selling them out in favor of (usually) White men…”
I’d settle for a kit-assembled digital clock.
AH ! And i thought it was our penchant for falling asleep drunk and fully clothed in front of some UFC rerun that made men, especially white men, so irresistible
Oliver Wang is probably gay. Or in denial.
Asian women worship white guys. That’s a fact. They also worship “whiteness”. How else does one explain the fact that Asian women spend billions to get eyelid surgeries and other operations to give themselves Caucasian physical features? They are ashamed of the fact that they are Asian.
Let’s just call a spade a spade and dispense with all the politically correct bullshit, shall we?
gangpeh,
What did you think about UFC 117? That Silva fight was wicked, wasn’t it?
I’ll try to remember that next time i wake up to a loud ileona baboya !! (for some reason hangeul doesn’t fuckin work anymore on this keyboard blah)
Awesome indeed ! Victory of experience, class and cold nerves, i have the impression though da spida physically has not been his old self for quite a while before this match, which would explain partially his recent asinine behaviour… will we see him again in the octagon ?
Vitor vs Sonnen would be awesome for a vacant title
Oh how would you see a Cain vs Junior Dos Santos (my fave heavyweight at the moment) ?
Sonnen had Silva on his heels (and on his back) 90% of the time, but Silva is just the better striker. Did you see Sonnen’s head recoil a few times? I don’t know how he took those hits. But Sonnen got tired and he opened himself up to Silva’s triangle submission. I was at the edge of my seat. Although Sonnen had Silva on his back a lot, I had the feeling it could have gone either way. The full five rounds baby!
At the top of his game, say the level displayed against Franklyn 1&2, Marquardt and Griffin, Chael would have lasted 2-3 rounds at the most methinks but truly fantastic morning (for me)
Netizen Kim, it’s simple: you just need to surround yourself with a community of like-minded people who are interested in improving their dating skills, to be better and more confident with the ladies, and to be a better man overall.
That’s it.
Fred Reed will teach ?
Seriously NetKim, I told you this before — my inbox is overflowing with question like “I am [white/black/Hispanic/Arab/Martian/whatever]. Will Korean men be attracted to me?” If you need a date, just ask me — I am happy to oblige and forward every single such email to you. In the meantime, get over yourself.
I don’t worship any race of women, but I have a fetish for gingers. Hubba hubba.
I decided a long time ago that whenever I saw a couple that, for whatever reason, I didn’t think “fit,” it was a very useless exercise to second-guess their motives for being together. Ain’t nobody’s business but their own.
Also, NK: that “Oliver Wang is gay” comment? Weak, dude. You’re reaching, even for you.
@38 TK – why do you hate your readership?
@26 yuna
Yuna, the problem is, the only time he pulls anything is when he IS at home.
and for you NK, and your 14. I see you are back to discrediting the basis and legitimacy of this blog owner’s marriage again (and the marriages of many other posters here), suggesting that it’s not about love. That’s rather classy. I wish it wasn’t the first time you’ve blatantly done that. It obviously ain’t love when an Asian girl is with YOU either. Listen to dogbertt, he gives good advice. And go fuck yourself.
cmm,
I don’t think TK hates his readership. I do think that TK is very patrimonial with his readership. I think TK will make a very strict dad.
That word patrimonial… I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Nah, I just holding out hope against hope that NetKim could become a reformed character with the right gal. I was bitter as shit when I was a senior in college, when this white dude lured away the girl whom I really did love. (She also happened to look like a Taiwanese version of Catherine Zeta-Jones.) I totally had the anti-yellow-fever attitude for about a year, until I met my wife. To be sure, my attitude was not nearly as toxic at NK, but who knows?
@ # 43,
I meant patriarchal.
From UC Berkeley? I’m highly skeptical… then again… you spend enough time in the desert and even a dirty puddle of water will look like a piña colada.
NK needs to get laid, to stop thinking Fred Reed is worth reading — let alone quoting — and above all to get liberated from the intellectual ghetto of simplistic identity politics.
Even if you paid very little attention to what NetKim has been slobbering all over this board the last few years, you can still pick apart his white-boy jealousy fixation and get a pretty clear handle on his many hypocrisies without much effort.
He’s posted the same Fred Reed rant at least half a dozen times because he’s not intelligent enough to form his own argument, and he always highlights the last line about how interracial relationships can never attain true love. Yet when I pointed out this beauty from the same Fred Reed which basically advocates for every stereotype about Asian men possible (including indirectly referring to Korean men as “dickheads” who beat their wives, cheat on them, and treat them like shit) while pushing the white-boy as white-knight theory that NK has nightmares about…he tucked tail and ran, forgiving Fred for the same transgression that he regularly whines and cries about here all the time.
At the same time NK spent the better part of a year giving us the boring details of all his (fictional) relationships with Jewish girls and Brazilian girls and black girls and white girls, as well as the rest of the Benetton rainbow. The lesson to be drawn was of course that Asian girls dating white dudes equals no chance at true love….but NetKim dating outside the clan equals Titanic-level devotion and romance. Choice for me but not for thee…which just happens to perfectly confirm one of those stereotypes he so regularly rails against.
You’ll also take note that NetKim is quite enthusiastic about his embrace of non-PC, tell-it-like-it-is, no bullshit, who-cares-who’s-offended brand of speech about race and interracial relationships. An unapologetic advocate for “calling a spade a spade,” he is. Which of course for him involves painting Asian women who reject him and date outside their race as mentally impaired bimbos who are damaged goods, and portraying the white-bread he lost out to as unemployable losers.
But of course for NetKim calling a spade a spade is a one-way street, and as soon as that politically incorrect shoot-from-the-hip attitude takes aim at Asian men like himself, he’s up in arms crying like a scunt about white-boy conspiracy theories to keep the Asian man down, while whining about non-PC stereotypes in the media, and bitching and moaning about all the unfair treatment of Asian men by the man.
In other words, NK loves the non-PC dialogue while he’s employing it to castigate Asian women and white-boys, but the instant he becomes the target, the tears roll, the victim mask slides on, and he starts tossing blame out to anyone who turns the tables on him and employs the same tactics.
In fact the incredible thing about our resident asshole is that he seems to be proud of his hypocrisy and sees absolutely nothing wrong with completely discounting AF-WM relationships as illegitimate based on racial factors alone, while bragging about all the different races he (supposedly) checks off on his (probably fake) dating list.
I take little pride in shooting brain-dead fish in a barrel, but for those who haven’t been around for the last half-decade, go ahead and look up hypocritical douche in the dictionary. You’ll find the NK wolf staring right at you.
Most of NK’s arguments can be boiled down to “It’s all about the cock. Sadly, not mine.”
NK usually does an excellent job of making himself look like a dumbshit, but it’s always nice when ihbb comes in and outdoes NK. …at making NK look like a dumbshit.
To NK,
I agree with you about political correctness.
I agree that you do have a “couple” good points. (as generalizations)
I agree that “some” of your conclusions are simply “whacked up”.
I have to say that you seem like you’ve got some real issues and that you need to marry a white woman…and get some of it out of your system.
I will say that you are damn entertaining sometimes and i credit you with this thread now having 55 comments
Blueballs, you seem to assume that I care about my reputation or my image or whatever else it is that makes other people hesitant to say controversial things. For me, those are merely inconveniences that get in the way of telling the truth. Your rant is nothing but a desperate attempt to obfuscate my message. Hey, I may be a “dumbshit” or a “hypocrite” or whatever else pops into your silly heads. I’ve been called far worse things in my life – no big deal. But all the ad hominem bluster that you can muster does not negate the truth of the reality of which I speak, which stands on its own, blatantly obvious to anyone whose minds have not been muddled by lies or self-serving interest.
NetKim you’re not dumbshit or hypocrite. The fact is you shouldn’t have generalized Asian women.
@56
Your response couldn’t have been more anti-climatic. I’m deeply disappointed.
I think the subtext in these little exchanges between IHBB and NetKim (dogbert also come to mind) is writing ability. I’ve always found NetKim’s interest lies not so much in saying something, but in trying to say it well — the rhetorical aspect.
It’s obvious enough that the content of his argument are threadbare and vapid but, because of his pretensions as a stylist, he focuses on persuading readers (“telling the truth” as he puts it) with his delivery. (And when toying with the dimwits, he has his moments.)
That’s why it’s so interesting when someone like IHBB shows up who actually can write. The touché moments aren’t so much that NetKim’s arguments are shown to be vacuous (we knew that!), it’s that he’s shown up at his own wordsmithing game.
Seeing NetKim “proven wrong” is a matter of indifference for me. I don’t particularly care what NetKim says since his “truths” generally boils down to recycled hackneyed racist tripe that everyone’s heard a million times before.
But it is interesting to watch him try to say it cleverly. So I must confess to a certain ‘schadenfreudian’ joy in seeing him so deftly bested, as in comment 52 above. But I’d also really like to see ol’ NetKim come back with a good one of his own, but alas the talent appears to be lacking, as comment 56 sadly demonstrates (once again).
What’s the scene in the film Amadeus where Mozart sits down at the piano to play Salieri’s piece? I get the feeling that IHBB is saying to NetKim: “And, the rest is just the same, isn’t it?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ciFTP_KRy4
What about white men? Or any other race /gender? Don’t matter?
Anyhoo, here’s my two-bob:
Fred Reed is a fool who projects his own racial prejudices and insecurities on those around him. He makes generalizations based on his own thoughts and feelings, assuming that everyone else feels the same way he does. It’s not a new phenomonem; just look at Sigmund Freud’s crackpot theories and marvel at the fact that they’re still taught at universities. I mean, the Oedipus conflict, anyone? Penis envy? The guy was a complete quack.
I digress. Here’s my point, Netizen: you may have found a like-minded fellow in Mr. Reed, but that doesn’t mean you’re both correct. It just means you’ve found a like-minded fellow in Mr. Reed.
I won’t break down every single opinion he has, but I’ll point out a few.
Really? What a fucking stupid thing to say. I’m a white man. I don’t hate to see black men with white women. To paraphrase another commentator, I don’t give give a fuck who fucks who. And maybe I’m hanging out with the wrong (right?) crowd, but I don’t know any white boys who hate to see white girls with non-white boys.
Likewise:
The guy’s just a plain of ill-natured racist who is seeking to redeem his own mean feelings by projecting them as a general, social malaise.
As for the rubbish about war and conquest and sex a tool of subjugation, where the fuck are you living, Chechnya? People don’t consult broad social engineering cues when deciding on who they’re going to hump. Sex is a selfish thing. Two people like each other, they go for it. No doubt prejudice and family pressures effect the decision to marry – which is a shame – but trying to explain love as a leery sociological phenomenon is way off.
Cool, 58 comments and counting, largely dealing with neurosis arising from the fact that since NetKim drunkenly lost his virginity in an outhouse with a female relative he has been unable to find even a semi-consenting partner since.
Sorry “dude”, just telling the “truth”.
NetKim you’re not dumbshit or hypocrite. The fact is you shouldn’t have generalized Asian women.
and of course white men, white women, black men and black women, right?
What is the truth behind the 9% of the white women engaged in interracial marriages who happened to have hooked up with an Asian man (i suspect also a fast growing number) ?
Max (or if you prefer, Max-nim),
You should comment more often.
#63
So should you , just comment away. Your views are as valuable as a rubberband in a rubberband-less underpants.
Hey Gangpeh, are you in Seoul? I saw an Italian gentleman gesticultaing widly while speaking with a Korean partner this afternoon at Gwanghwamun/ Jogno-1-ga.
He just seemed to be to old to be you. I’ll be spewing if it is you because I am bored as while the family is down south and could do with someone to drink a beer with.
Net Kim is about style AND status over substance. He won’t just quote from any white guy. It’s got to be a published white guy who’se been quoted many a time before by other so esteemed and published white guys. Anything less is UNcivilized!
This is exactly what I’m thinking whenever I come across a Net Kim post about “independent thought” — especially if the post is about Asians and independent thought.
That’s the one thing in my life in which I’ve never been lacking. I’m my own thinker.
hey Hojy let’s give credit where credit is due: it isn’t everyday that me, you and the rest of the commentators agree on something, NetKim indeed accomplished something major, on top of making me realise another time why i’ll never leave troll junior league.
Ink: lol thanks it isn’t everyday the word gentleman is tossed in my direction, it wasn’t me i was there griefly second part of July in a busy 2 weeks trip, i’ll be back second part of Sept. to pick up wife (i generally stay in some officetel in Seocho or at the Coex International, for some reason i love that area): she remained there to take care of various issues, i really cherish these weeks lemme tell you that
I actually like Net Kim’s views that he fancies Sonagi, depending on the crazy weather – it was just a bit subpar as there is only a finite configuration the argument can be presented and I think he’s exhausted them all.
“I always liked hearing from my white friends in Korea that the pickings were slim…in both genders. Something along the lines of like, “God, it was great to go back to the U.S. because I got to see so many hot guys/girls.” ”
I think your friends were just telling you what you wanted to hear. Christ I’m about 95 and I don’t even have to get off my barstool.
“hey also worship “whiteness”. How else does one explain the fact that Asian women spend billions to get eyelid surgeries and other operations”
having surgery makes you white, who knew!!
The way you generalize the Chinese in your forums, I would think you would be okay with the generalization of other groups, too.
@ 63 — thanks, kind of you to say.
@ 64 — agree with your comment, but i thought the slap on the back stuff gave you da chicken skin? or is it a question of degree and frequency? (not teasing btw, just curious).
That’s right – I do like a man who’s got me all figured out – it does. It was a desperate attempt without sounding too much like a biaatch to stop her from complimenting and get her to blast away on other important stuff.
So it was that transparent, dang nam.
i’m sure there are a few more layers to that onion. (pat-pat…)
@Max and others who have jumped into the whole TMH’s comment appraisal
Re: IHBB and NetKim.
I prefer to read the duo as a traditional comedy duo, with IHBB playing the role of a Dean Martin-ish straight man, and NetKim playing the zanier comedian. One cannot exist without the other. And, to you Max, every online group needs a Jon Stewart, the guy standing on the sidelines and watching from afar. (So now we’ve got analysis of the analysis of the analysis…)
Is this a translation of a Korean saying, an expression you picked up somewhere, or something you made up? Were rubberbands used to hold up underwear in the old days or something? I had to reread it to figure out whether or not it was intended to flatter. However much you may appreciate my comments, please don’t liken me to underwear elastic, thanks. You’re welcome to call me a biaatch anytime.
Sonagi, not to worry. Yuna’s reference to comment #63, and her link to the comment in the Japanese apology thread, make it clear that the underwear elastic compliment (?) was directed to Jieun K.
Translation of a Korean light joke, as in 고무줄 없는 빤스, usually following 팥 없는 찐빵 (hot buns without red beans.)
I knew she was talking about Jieun, Ut although I didn’t make that clear in my comment. Thanks for the clarification, TK.
TK: I was bitter as shit when I was a senior in college, when this white dude lured away the girl whom I really did love.
Given a choice between an asian guy and a white guy, with all other factors being equal such as looks, education, earning potential, etc, 7 or 8 times out of 10, an asian girl will pick the white guy. In fact, even if the white guy is inferior in all those other areas, she’d still choose him. Simply because he is white. Is this not the very definition of Affirmative Action, being rewarded for something which one did not earn? For them that whiteness carries a certain social cachet, like owning a damn Gucci bag or something. That’s how these bitches think. And there’s a surprising large number of them. A white boyfriend is like a fashionable accessory that they can show off to other like-minded bitches to make them jealous. This is what we have to deal with.
재수없는 잘난척 싸가지없는 일이야.
Blueballs: every stereotype about Asian men possible (including indirectly referring to Korean men as “dickheads” who beat their wives, cheat on them, and treat them like shit) while pushing the white-boy as white-knight theory that NK has
One thing that anyone would have noticed about Blueballs, if anyone has paid attention to him besides his gushing groupie following, is that Korean male bashing is one of his favorite hobbies. He is very passionate about protraying them as soju drinking, wife beating, whoremongering cheaters. The implication, of course, is that white guys, by comparision, are gentle, kind, righteous, chivalrous, and of course, they have bigger cocks. Blueballs is a big promoter of the white boy as the white knight in shining armor theory. The fact that this so-called “knight in shining armor” is a misfit in his own society seems lost on Korean women, forever naive and clueless, but I suppose the white cachet more than makes up for it. I do not think Fred Reed is wrong. How is it in his interest to highlight negative things about other white guys except for the fact that he honors truth above all else? A couple of white guys here claim that they do not care, but that is only because they have chosen to excel at the game of playing the Asian Man’s Nigger. White women are largely indifferent because they quietly regard these guys as unwanted losers anyway in that typical stuck-up manner common to most white women. Beside all of this is largely foreign to their experience anyway. How a white guy, whose entire Korean vocabulary may consist all of ten words, communicates on any deep, meaningful level with a Korean woman fluent in broken English is anybody’s guess. But again one woman’s trash is another’s treasure and the white cachet manages to somehow overcome obstacles. There is a little bit of Blueballs in all white guys but one will not find anyone more gifted or practiced in the art of rhetorical self-fellatio than Blueballs himself.
I ask my fellow brethren, why do we tolerate this state of affairs? Why do we allow selfish, parasitical white boys to take advantage of divisions within our community? Why do we allow girls with low self-esteem openly flaunt their lame, wash-up whitey tools in our faces as an act of passive-aggressive feminism? You cannot be apathetic about this. If you tolerate or don’t speak out about this plague upon our community, your children and their children will inherit the mess that YOU failed to address.
I guess I should thank my lucky stars that I am married to a fabulous Korean woman. Or that I dated a series of Asian women previous to that.
Seriously man, get over yourself.
… and:
The idea that you can “allow” a woman to do anything at all probably explains your warped thoughts on this matter.
“How a white guy, whose entire Korean vocabulary may consist all of ten words, communicates on any deep, meaningful level with a Korean woman fluent in broken English is anybody’s guess.”
Ha! You actually think women want ‘deep meaningful communication’. Dudes like you make it easier for Val Kilmer to get the poon!
I sometimes get the sense that the wife of an expat consists of a Korean female who hates Korea and Koreans and must affirm such a sentiment in daily talk sessions with her husband. Maybe the reality is subtle and the husband and wife aren’t sitting on the floor, at a scheduled time, facing each other koombaya style, and listing the things they hate about Koreans and the Korean male — you know, for affirmation purposes and all, kind of like renewing vows. But perhaps something like this goes on.
If that is the case then I agree that I should care, but not because it involves an interracial relationship. There’s nothing particularly bad about a Korean hating herself just because it involves an interracial relationship. I expect people to be good people, to do what’s right, be good, preach good. A culture of good folks is what I’d like to see regardless of who’s fucking who. And that’s all there’s to it. Else, why should I care? I wouldn’t care any more if every Asian woman in my family were banging black dudes or white dudes. It’d be the same if they were banging Asians. So why don’t I care? Because it’s not my business. If the AF involved in an AF-WM relationship is not my wife or my girlfriend, then why should I or any Asian guy care? Just live your own damn life.
It’s really that simple. There is no “larger stake” or some fucking perverse cultural disease going on here for which we need a dickhead with the last name Kim to cure. Also, anything that can be said about AF-WM relationships, can also be said of AM-WF relationships. It goes both ways. And in the end it’s not about the exogamy.
But honestly I find this topic so boring. It’s so simple. It’s boring even when we mix academic headings and jargon with vulgarity — “affirmative action of pussy”. Yeah, yeah. That sure is witty.
When was the last time you were in the motherland? I’d say 19 out of 20 Korean women have no interest in foreigners, other than to learn English from at hagwon or gawk at on the streets. Seriously.
Jaemigyopo females like my sister who have dated and married non-Koreans seem more enthused that their white spouse ISN’T Korean than fixating on the fact that they’re being saved by a White Knight or Princess. Also some gyopo female pals of mine know that they’re not getting much attention from gyopo guys (either b/c of personality or looks), so they are almost “forced” to date non-Koreans. I have a good friend who jokingly but proudly says she’s “White guy Hot” not “Asian hot.”
Like Sandra Oh, huh?
Wow, NK. Up until that post, I still liked you. Even though you cut and paste entire essays from Fred Reed and spewed bizarre racial theories, I still liked you because your comments were never meanspirited or vulgar. Either you’re trollin’, trollin’, trollin’ by the river, or you’ve got deep resentment issues against both white and Asian women. Men who are angry and resentful towards women creep me out. If you honestly believe what you’ve written, I’ll bet you give off bad vibes to other women, too, and maybe that’s why you’re having trouble finding satisfactory female companionship. I’m not being unkind to you by telling you this.
What t_song said.
I’m a decent looking guy. I never had problems getting a date / laid when I was in Oz. When I was in Korea I found it more difficult. I don’t particularly buy the idea that white guys have an easy time of it in the ROK – I think a lot of self-conscious bluster perpetuates the Lucky Penis Club myth. I know this because I played in a soccer team for several years with 14 white guys, 2 gyopos, 3 black guys – a decent cross-section of foreign blokes in Korea, and only one of them every got regularly lucky with the natives.
(The caveat being that I ended up landing the hottest gyopo on the peninsula
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Good advice Ms. Sonagi.
“I ask my fellow brethren, why do we tolerate this state of affairs? Why do we allow selfish, parasitical white boys to take advantage of divisions within our community? Why do we allow girls with low self-esteem openly flaunt their lame, wash-up whitey tools in our faces as an act of passive-aggressive feminism?”
Maybe because they are not small-minded racist creeps like you. As for community, I can’t for the life of me think what community you would fit into, but if you did, then no wonder there are divisions.
Put it this way NK, I wouldn’t fuck you
Why is my comment (#84) awaiting moderation?
Anyway, here’s some other topics Kim might wanna explore:
-The Identity Politics of Smegma, a holistic approach.
-Oh Fuck! – On the Transcendental Metaphysics of Dynamic Systems Approaching Equilibrium
-Trends in Deconstructive Gangbang Cumming in Postmodern Marxism
-Reverse Sartrean epoche in licking, eating, tasting French Pussy, a quantative proof.
Alright, enough. I suck at this game.
That you refer to Korean women as “bitches” probably speaks a lot to why they want nothing to do with you.
Wait a minute, I’m the one who has a family, a paid-off mortgage, a bank account and a career while super nationalist NetizenKim was reduced to nursing his hurt feelings with Filipina bar girls in Itaewon after getting cold-shouldered by everyone on his first and only visit to the Fatherland — and I’m the loser?
And they say Steve Jobs has a reality distortion field.
hoju_saram — You misunderstand the Lucky Penis Club™. As foreigners, neither you nor I are invited to enjoy the benefits. NetizenKim, being of Korean parentage and having been born with the required equipment, is supposed to be a member in full (so to speak).
I think part of his anger stems from the fact that the Club doesn’t welcome him.
This is the poison tree from which all the sexually-frustrated neanderthal fruit of NK falls.
Of course it is also endlessly amusing to see someone put forth such a blatantly chauvinistic attitude toward the very women he apparently seeks to attract…while at the same time throwing up his hands in cornfused amazement at the reasons why they’re not attracted. Gee NK, whatever could it be about you that keeps repelling these “bitches?” Quite a mystery that is, to no one but you.
Not to mention I thoroughly enjoy the image of NetKim playing preacher-man, standing up before a congregation of fellow KAs, reigning fire and brimstone about the great satanic white-boy and his wicked, villainous penis wreaking havoc as a plague on Korean(-American) women and the entire Korean(-American) community. Perhaps with an accompanying power-point presentation with helpful blow-up slides of numerous non-Korean cocks in varying colors, shapes, and sizes with the word “DANGER! DO NOT TOUCH!” written across them in a menacing font.
Of course the coup de grace comes on his way out the community center when a cute little 8-year Korean girl comes up with a big smile on her face and kicks him in the balls, then as he doubles over, she whispers “I saw you with your arm around a white bitch yesterday.”
Depends. If you’re younger and live the fratboy life, drinking and clubbing and partying, sure there are a lot of young Korean ladies out there doing the same thing, and it’s not that difficult to find them if that’s your intention.
It’s when you do NOT live life that way and just live a normal non-alcohol-driven job-and-home lifestyle that I would agree with you. Most (regular everyday) Korean women don’t think twice about “whitey” unless they want to study English. Their first choice is still Korean men.
hoju,
Are those your pictures?
It could also be that our comrade doesn’t really like women at all and is really part of that whole Yale thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NyzQwwO4Os
Not that there’s anything wrong with that….
DLB
Now I get it. No wonder he’s angry.
Yep. On a side-note, I actually have close to 10,000 pics on flickr (most of them private). $25 a year for a pro account and you have a backed-up, unlimited storage facility (for pics and video) you can access anywhere in the world. Storing your pictures on hard-drives / DVDs / even blue-rays and gold archival disks just isn’t safe enough as far as I’m concerned. Get it!
gangpeh – you seem to have some kind of strange online man-game. It seems like nearly daily some guy wants to buy you a drink. (today in comment 65)
This poll was almost completely predictable:
Interracial dating/marriage post = NetKim and his issues and his Fred Reed + everyone (Korean, white, male, female) rolling their eyes at him and telling him to get a life
NK, have you considered importing a Vietnamese wife like the guys in the Korean countryside? All you have to do is go to Vietnam–you can choose the girl from a line-up!
This moderation que is a pain. Release the comments!
I feel your pain brother.
If Korea is home to the Lucky Penis Club, which country is host to the Lucky Vadge Club, I wonder?
“I ask my fellow brethren, why do we tolerate this state of affairs? Why do we allow selfish, parasitical white boys to take advantage of divisions within our community? Why do we allow girls with low self-esteem openly flaunt their lame, wash-up whitey tools in our faces as an act of passive-aggressive feminism? You cannot be apathetic about this. If you tolerate or don’t speak out about this plague upon our community, your children and their children will inherit the mess that YOU failed to address”.
you should qualify this great Martin Luther King quest of yours by stating that doing so means banging the living shit out of a keyboard in your mother’s basement whilst the resentment of your miserable life stacking shelves in her Compton bodega continues to rise to apoplectic levels. If the anger, the rage, the protest is ever going to manifest itself in the real world it will be done in the most low-down passive aggressive fashion for which your type are so renowned. That or organize a Koreansentry or Asiasfinest wienie roast so you and your chingus can get together and pool your collective inadequacies.
Sonagi — the whole world, obviously.
Those are interesting points. Let’s look at how you fit into this.
Honestly, your looks are below average. You know this. And this has nothing to do with your being Korean — good-looking Korean men (and there are very, very many) have no trouble getting the girl, white or otherwise.
Your earning potential? Pfft.
Education? SUNY.
So what do you expect? Women have standards.
Sorry about the comment moderation — my SPAM guard can be a bit finicky sometimes.
Sonagi – re the lucky vadge club – I have a female American friend living in Uganda. She seems to be having a great time down there…
I can’t wait for the messages in the moderation queue to be released.
They already have been released. You have to scan back through, as they’re inserted in the timeline that they were originally posted, not at the time they’re approved. I doubt there’s a way to swap that up, but it would be far better for continuity.
yep, I posted that wish before I’d refreshed and caught Robert’s comment.
You will not find me agreeing very often with Netizen Kim, but he is fundamentally correct. A not insignificant cohort of Asian females are actively engaged in what is essentially racial treason, the unintended consequences of which being the inevitable extinction of east Asian national cultures within the United States.
Unlike Netizen Kim however, I do not singularly fault Asian women or White men. Women, being women, are fundamentally irrational creatures who by their very nature are perfidious. Men are simply price takers in the mating game and I do not blame White men at all in their willingness to accept what is freely given. The core problem at the heart of the issue lies in the failure of Asian men. It is ultimately the Asian man, the Asian father, that raises Asian women and bears the most responsibility for their daughters failures. Asian fathers have not properly raised their daughters in an acceptable manner and have instead let their valueless hypergamous mothers run amuck in shaping their weltanschauung. This has resulted in an entire generation of pampered, entitled, and most of all amoral daughters. An Asian American female with a functioning value system beyond self-rationalizing whatever happens to strike their fancy at the moment is a distinct minority. Without any strong fundamental social ties to their co-ethnics, be they cultural or religious, Asian females are essentially cast adrift to blend as best they can into society at large. Women will do what women always do when placed in such a circumstance, adapt by adopting and mimicking those around them. One of the consequences of which being the denial of their wombs towards their own co-ethnics and towards those at the highest echelon of the social ladder. White men.
Although South Asian and Muslim communities come with their own set of unique pathologies, Asian fathers can learn a lot in how to raise their daughters from them. A woman knows full well what behavior is expected from her, what values she is to uphold, and the consequences of failure to meet those obligations. Furthermore, they have a firm grip on their wives in the first place so that the mothers, instead of serving to foster poor behavior as is often the case in east Asian families instead, serve as positive reinforcement.
Agreed, Jing. But surely it’s nothing a good bout of honour killings wouldn’t be able to fix?
racial treason
Ain’t it cute when the Asian boys co-opt stormfront terminology.
What theKorean said. Also, I hear China has a shortage of bachelors. And if you’re looking for love in the states, go visit a ski-field town. Sausage-fest!
And you fellas wonder why you’re not pulling chicks.
For the last 5+ years. You are largely correct, but it should be pointed out that this is not a race issue so much as it is practical. If you are a white guy in Korea, can speak Korean (less necessary the better any certain girl can speak your language), have knowledge of and respect Korean culture, and can give the impression that you will not be leaving the country in the near future, you can flip tsong’s 1 out of 20 odds completely around. Another way of saying this is that a girl doesn’t have any desire to date/marry a guy with whom she cannot communicate, is a savage (according to the local mores and folkways), and who will soon be leaving forever.
Jing – interesting analysis, except for the strong notion that out-marrying is wrong/traitorous/amoral. I particularly liked this (edited) quote:
I’m sure there are some who might want to strike the “Asian” out too.
“racial treason”
Such a belief has rendered the rest of what you wrote complete shit. Didn’t even bother to read it.
“a matter of practicality,” not “practical”
thekorean: I guess I should thank my lucky stars that I am married to a fabulous Korean woman. Or that I dated a series of Asian women previous to that.
Good for you. Well done, old boy. What do you want, a cookie?
thekorean: The idea that you can “allow” a woman to do anything at all probably explains your warped thoughts on this matter.
Whenever any society allows women more freedom, a Pandora’s Box gets flung open and chaos ensues. The fact that our melanin-deficient brethren in Korea are largely refugees from Western feminism stands in testimony to this fact. Which makes it all the more derisive that many of them turn into unlikely feminists, self-appointed white-boy savior yahoos, like our friend Blueballs, to save Korean womenhood from whoremongering, cheating, wife-beating Korean men [TM]. Whatever it takes to get laid, I suppose. I also suppose Korean women need such saviors, since they seem to lack the intellectual wherewithal and moral fortitude to do such work on their own.
abcdefg: But honestly I find this topic so boring.
Honestly, I find you quite boring too. Which wouldn’t be so bad if it were not for the fact that you are also maddeningly convoluted at times. Apathetics like you are the reason why we get walked all over, which ultimately is due to your lack of balls and inability to speak your mind. I take that back. You do offend but only what the status quo deems “appropriate” to offend, like a good little chump.
Sonagi: Even though you cut and paste entire essays from Fred Reed and spewed bizarre racial theories.
Well of course they are bizarre to you! I might as well be a mammal trying to explain to a fish why drowning is bad.
Sonagi: Men who are angry and resentful towards women creep me out.
What about women who are angry and resent toward men? Do they creep you out. Newsflash: men are resentful and angry toward women because women also suck.
t_song: Also some gyopo female pals of mine know that they’re not getting much attention from gyopo guys (either b/c of personality or looks), so they are almost “forced” to date non-Koreans.
I suppose girls like that exist in all groups. Funny though how ours is the only one with a glaring disparity.
t_song: I have a good friend who jokingly but proudly says she’s “White guy Hot” not “Asian hot.”
What an awesome thing to be proud about! Many Asian women have this need to be validated by a white guy. Of course, validation by an Asian guy or someone who isn’t approved by the unspoken color code is not as meaningful. Low self-esteem AND racism…truly a winning combination.
agoldensky: Maybe because they are not small-minded racist creeps like you.
You wouldn’t know the first thing about racism even if it came and whacked you on the head like a 100 pound cluebat.
agoldensky: Put it this way NK, I wouldn’t f*ck you
Well thank you for answering a question that I didn’t even ask. I discovered a long time ago that truth is not a function of how many times my penis occupies some dark, moist hole. Perhaps that’s news to you. Get over yourself, sister.
cmm: NK, have you considered importing a Vietnamese wife like the guys in the Korean countryside? All you have to do is go to Vietnam–you can choose the girl from a line-up!
Viet women are awesome. There is no shame in being from a poor country. It’s not like they’re First World refugees with a sickening sense of entitlement.
The cultural hegemony unleashed by the Bolsheviks is so strong that the mere idea of the preservation of ones own racial uniqueness is now anathema. Somewhere somehow, the quaint notion of preserving the legacy of your father’s father is no longer acceptable in polite company. It is a shame.
Babaganoosh, there are worse things than being a “racist”. Intellectual cowardice for one. Being silent in the face a herd bent on self destruction is another.
“It is ultimately the Asian man, the Asian father, that raises Asian women and bears the most responsibility for their daughters failures.”
Judging by your picture, I would have to agree. Nice rack tho
Fabulously disingenuous and worthy of the great Nick Griffin himself. If you want to raise “the mere idea of the preservation of [your] own racial uniqueness,” feel free to talk yourself into that particular corner. But if you want to start bandying around terms like “racial treason,” then be prepared for a richly deserved fisking.
Oh, and if you can’t see why it is ridiculous for a GUY with a pair of jugs as a gravatar to be appointing himself as an arbiter of morality for Asian WOMEN, then I’m not sure you’d understand an explanation.
I just read the thread.
I usually refrain to commenting, especially to say such things, but this is pushing a bit too far.
that comment 15 was simply pathetic.
poor you.
@124
I’m in the same boat. It reads like someone who does a lot of watching, stewing, and labeling without much mixing. I don’t claim to know the man, but that’s how it reads. Sometimes a healthy touch of political correctness is what we get when experiences loosen up prejudices, Netizen Kim. It’s not to sell out on principles cemented on the sidelines, but rather just admit that life is more fun the way many people live it, the same people we used to think were foolish.
Boy-girl, boy-boy, girl-girl, it’s all good, and much more viable when human beings support each other.
This thread is the Freddy Krueger of the Marmot…it never fuckin dies, come back or more…each time uglier and more laughable than ever
Jing, am I correct to assume then that you are calling Robert (your host), dogbertt, ihbb, Brendon, Sperwer, SomeGuy, Jeffery Hodges, and the many other commentors here married to non-”co-ethnics” a bunch of race traitors?
I like how pretty much no one here has bothered to read the original post or the report that spawned it (especially the anti-interracial-dating commenters). Really, take a moment to read it — the point is, for first-generation Asian-Americans, woman are far more likely to marry outside of their face; however, by the second generation, Asian men and women are almost EQUALLY LIKELY to marry outside of their race.
That’s right — by the second generation, Asian men are just as likely to be race traitors, providing affirmative action wang for white women (and women of other races) (and men, I guess). Sorry that facts get in the way of your (NK) self-pitying, misogynistic whining.
I went to Korea for business (legitimate) thank you
A couple of white guys here claim that they do not care, but that is only because they have chosen to excel at the game of playing the Asian Man’s Nigger
Let me breakdown this for you again, i don’t care about who fuck who not cos i’m feminism bitch slapped, i’m a liberal effete, i’m so succesful with Asian ladies or other things like that, i don’t cos i have other shit to do like waking up at 6 to fix breakfast for everybody, distributing and collecting money all day long (guess what i really do for a living ?), making sure my kid is on par with his education and also making sure my partner come back home to a decently warm and welcoming place after a day spent bitchslapping a salesforce in Switzerland…it’s called having a life, you should try, it ain’t that bad
Source of your numbers please ? You work for Barry Hussein team ? We saved 8.5 million jobs…
I remember when i tried to convince them to branch out in the fast growing East asian markets, the fuckers didn’t want to listen to me…
It’s just taken an even more hilarious turn! NetizenKim wants us to believe he has previously inserted his resentful penis into a “warm, moist hole”. Really? Moist? How do you accomplish that?
Brendon, I use Astroglide.
Like what? Honor killings?
I thought I might write a sincere two-cents comment just for NetizenKim. But now that the thread has just taken a ludicrous turn, I might as well not bother it…
Skin colour is our “legacy”? Seriously?
So we’re all “intellectual cowards” and we’re bent on “self-destruction” because we don’t believe in the tenets of Stormfront?
nk, you really are a dick, you know nothing about me, yet you seem sure that i know nothing about racism. Where do you get off making such statements? Perhaps that’s the point, you actually do get off on this stuff, calling people racist, labeling women as puppets and claiming anyone in a mixed race marriage are not in love. You really are a sad little fucker. I know plenty about racism, yet even if i knew nothing about it, i would still be able to clearly see that you are a racist. As for the dark moist hole, are you sure it wasn’t a donut? Damn, you are probably fumbling around with your little cock right now
IHBB i don’t like you, i know the feeling is mutual said so i didn’t laugh this hard since you swapped bullets with the great Jashin D
Yep, I would’ve secretly thumbed up his post too, giggling all the while. (But not out of disrespect for my brother, NetizenKim.)
While we’re all piling on Asian men (no pun intended), here’s the headline from Turkey’s Hurriyet Daily:
Asian men seek poor brides
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=asian-men-seeks-poor-brides-2010-07-06
Hurriyet should probably get better headline writers, but these are good for a laugh nonetheless.
Milton, the next piece is ready. Let me know when you feel like it. I’ll post it on the same thread as the last time.
Jieun, fire away! I await with baited breath.
Astroglide, you say. Hmm.
OK, give me a minute. But let me say this. I focused on the “possibility” of germination of ethnic identity we now call minjok. Possibility, not firm confidence. So, please read it with that mind.
Oh, and one more thing, my brain almost stopped working now. So, the third piece will not be coming any time soon… Wanna take it over?
“I’d say 19 out of 20 Korean women have no interest in foreigners, other than to learn English from at hagwon or gawk at on the streets. Seriously.”
I’d say 5% of the female population is pretty good odds when the foreigner men get up to max 2% even in Seoul.
NetKim, while I’ve got you on the phone, I was hoping we could move from theory to praxis for a moment and flesh out some of the messy details concerning your racist/sexist pogrom.
Supposing I am the product of one of these racially treacherous unions and subscribe to your philosophy: what do I do now?
1. Kill or sterilize myself?
2. Live a life of ascetic and sexually abstinent solitude contemplating the race crimes of my parents?
3. Marry into the “right” race and thereby try to breed out the “wrong” race. (Naturally, raising my slightly less tainted offspring to do the same).
And, if 3 is an acceptable option then which race is the “right” race to marry into? Should “preserving the legacy of your father” be the sole determining factor (as your ideological companion Jing has suggested)? Or does my sex/gender come into play?
I mean, if my Dad’s white and I’m female — do I go for a white guy? Because if I do, don’t I run the risk of repeating the sins of my parents while intending to repent of them?
And if I’m a guy and my Dad’s Korean — can I marry a “pure” Korean girl without ending up sullying the race with my quantum of “whitey” genes?
I mean, what’s a “right-minded” 튀기 to do?!
I suggest that if you want to get beyond the mental masturbation and get to solving this “race problem,” you’ve gonna have to get some concrete plans in place, and quick — cuz the “mixed breed” genie is already out the bottle on this one buddy…
Oh, and no more cheating and plagiarizing! Do your own work on this one. I’ve already received Kim Jong Il’s answer-sheet and I’ll be checking to see if you’ve been copying.
Half-correct. I have no problem with people restricting their personal mating choices to those of the same race or nationality. When people start trying to control others’ choices through coercion or law, there’s the problem. The Asian sthat have stayed in Asia are doing fine, thank you, spawning the two most populous nations in the world with no danger of racial or cultural extinction for major ethnic groups in sovereign countries. The Asian herds that have immigrated to Western countries with small Asian populations have set themselves up for eventual “self-destruction,” as you have called it. If you don’t want your kids to assimilate or intermarry, then remove the risk by living in your ancestral environment. It’s much easier to preserve your father’s father’s legacy if you’re actually living among his people.
typo correction: The Asian herds that have stayed…
NO it’s not technically affirmative action it’s just erratic consumer choices, which happen in a variety of fields. If i.e. they irrefutably show me that a certain Toyota model is a better car than a comparable Volkswagen but for some reason i’m fixated with buying a German car i’m not running any affirmative action for the German car industry i’m just, possibly, a dumb consumer and probably Toyota has to improve something at their marketing department, that’s it.
Last time i checked nobody was forcing a quota of white guys to screw down the throat of Asian (American) women
Extinction? There shouldn’t even be “east Asian national cultures” within the United States. Just like there aren’t German, Italian, or Welsh cultures within the United States.
There are more than 1.3 billion of you keeping your “culture” alive in China and Taiwan. No danger of extinction.
Bensonhurst baby Bensonhurst…
(from the movie 25th Hour)
dogbertt is right.
He reminded me of this famous quote from Theodore Roosevelt.
There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.
This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance.
But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.
The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English- Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian- Americans, or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with the other citizens of the American Republic.
The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American.
Addressing the Knights of Columbus in New York City
12 October 1915
It would be interesting to hear what Asian American women think of the atavistic views of some of their brethren.
I imagine women are voting with their feet (and wombs).
slim: but their culture may not let them admit it…
This has gone to 155 comments? Is it time for me to bust out with one of my boring economics related posts to put a damper on things?
Net Kim,
For a hilarious case of truly convoluted writing, read posts 15 and 10. And when you’re done blushing, you imp, come back and address any of my points. You cut, chop, and evade my posts because you lack the ability to synthesize a point beyond the basics. Every time I make a point, you reply to the least essential text and then miss the real argument altogether. When it comes down to it, you’re an effete thinker — lots of pretention to style and no substance.
Anyway, you think I’m apathetic. I’m not. I’m the guy who sees the world post-NetizenKim. You miss the essentials and misunderstand the real problems underlying interracial dating. You think your “Politics of Pussy” makes for an important read; I think you’re a racist imp who simply needs to stop thinking of Asian females in the possessive mode. They are not your property.
– But there’s a case where a girl can be somone’s property, in a sense; I grant this in the case of father to daughter. If I had a daughter dating a black guy or a white guy, I wouldn’t care. I’d CARE in the same way that I’d care if she were dating an Asian guy; I’d hope the guy is good. But if the guy isn’t, well, then guess what? Chances are this daughter is a slut. I’d take care to make sure that my daughter doesn’t grow up to be a “slut.” But these types exist, and, at the same time, there are dogs among men of every race. You think a black or white guy dating your daughter is bad. What about the horny Asian dude trying to score with the blondie working with him? There are real problems in the world and then there are fake ones. Interracial dating is a real problem for racist losers only. That’s the bottom line, folks.
hey gangpeh,
thank you. uhm, here are some more topics:
- the demarcation problem: anti-realist literature on the manufacture of incredibly huge black dildos.
- the trascendental unity of apperception and the apriori, uncut penis: a new biography on immanuel kant.
- debbie does copenhagen…but concludes she was gangbanged in multiple worlds at the same time.
ah, yep, i definitely suck at this game.
Sorry WK, it’s 145 comments past time…
Here’s a question: who teaches English in Guri?
Actually gangpeh, since you seem to have settled in and are relying less on clumsy attempts to agitate/impress with your previous gangster-troll routine, you’re slightly more palatable and sometimes even insightful.
Knock on wood.
I feel it in my fingers I feel it in my toes
Love is all around me And so the feeling grows
There’s a song for every occasion
Self-deprecating humour is SO sexy.
I am here to show you all what true Freedom of Speech is supposed to look like. If you can’t handle that, then you need to go back to wherever your predecessors came from.
Max, you think I am particularly unpleasant? In the past, I’ve had the opportunity to exchange thoughts with a couple of extremely outspoken and unapologetic Hapa males, themselves products of a Asian woman White male unions. My words pale in comparision to theirs. I felt like I was listening to pitbulls, if they could talk. I was surprised and taken aback by that. I was like: Hey, wait a minute. Your OWN parents are part of this and yet you’re attacking it? What gives?
And I realized that them being who they are, they have the insider scope. They know what happens behind closed doors and what gets said or done outside of the earshot of polite company. Ultimately, for whatever reasons even Hapa males tend to identify more as Asian. They are privy to many things that I am not. They, too, know where they stand in the grand scheme of things. They too become quickly and painfully familiar with the unspoken color code. They know how the cookie crumbles, perhaps even better than someone like I can even imagine.
Ultimately, I am not here to bash interracial relationships per se, but to critique what the AF-WM represents. If our community were a ship, it is one that is badly listing toward one side. I don’t know if anyone’s ever seen a ship like that; it is a dramatic sight that is indicative of major trouble that says “there’s a big problem here”. To many Asian males, including apparently even Hapas, it is the symbol of a false pretense at diversity, a gender divide which engenders mistrust, “whiteness” worshipping, and of course, auto-racism. There is no hope for someone like me, who has been mind-fucked beyond repair. But this will continue to have a profound, silent effect on future generations; the constant, unrelenting sight of AF-WM pairs, the single most clichéd interracial relationship on Earth…in the streets, the shopping mall, at schools, in the churches, on college campuses…even in the most unlikeliest corner of Earth, such as a small redneck town – what effect does this have on impressionable young boys and girls, going through puberty and struggling with their identity and sexuality. I have not met EVEN ONE ASIAN-AMERICAN WOMAN who’s thought of this.
Racism is an ever evolving concept. Most of you are working with a notion of racism that is outdated at least 20 years. Most of us tends to think of racism in terms of one group versus another. Racism can be directed at one’s own group as well. It is just as terrible. In fact, I would say that it is worse. Because if one can be racist against their own they can be racist toward anybody. Just as if one cannot love himself, he is utterly incapable of loving others. The fact that Asian women worships white men is hardly a demonstration of their openminded but only proves that they are too easily impressed by what they think represents power, prestige, or privilege.
Kudos to you for being self-aware.
If you’ll kindly glance back at the original story, you’ll see that while Asian-born American women outmarry at a far higher rate than Asian-born men, the gap almost closes for American-born of Asian descent, half of women versus 42% of men. As another commenter observed, it’s surprising that only 50-60% of US-born Asian-Americans outmarry when they comprise less than 5% of the population.
# 159,
Ah, perhaps because you have spent so much time in England?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_humour
From the article:
Somehow reminds me of “Daffyd the only gay in the village”
One of the reasons why I don’t comment as much as I used to at the Hole is because most commenters have reading comprehension skills that haven’t surpassed that of a twelve year old. Unsurprising given the deleterious effects decades of Marxist indoctrination has imposed upon Western society.
Babaganoosh, not every complicated concept can be reduced to a simple answer of BAD EVIL NAZIS! Reductio ad Hitlerum is not an effective argument, it’s not an argument at all, it’s simply guilt by mis-association.
Cmm, refer to the first paragraph. I do not blame white men for anything nor did I call them race traitors. Your faulty logic assumes that both parties in a relationship are equally culpable. They are not. Just because a spy betrays his nation and sells secrets to a foreign agent, doesn’t make the foreign agent a traitor too. Any offspring of Asian female-White male couplings will inevitably be ersatz Whites. Any language lessons our crash course cultural immersion junkets belay the simple truth that their primary cultural association will be that of the West by way of their fathers. How many Eurasians proceed to become quarter Asians rather than three-quarters? Scant few.
Sonagi, where did I specifically request coercion or law to force female behavior? That’s right, nowhere. Well, except for the self serving reality distortion lobe in your female hindbrain. All that is required is a return to more traditional family and cultural arrangements, a choice that must be made by Asian parents themselves. It is a parent’s duty to teach their child right from wrong and their individual choice as to how to proceed. I am simply naming names and bringing shame. Concepts that are unpopular in our permissive age yet are nonetheless vital to a functioning and stable society.
Dogbertt and Setnaffa embody what I view as the fundamental shift towards totalitarian tendencies due to the pedagogical influences of Bolshevism. All must be in service to the state. There must be no room for personal identities antithetical to the needs of the many. Your biological and reproductive choices must serve our grand nation building effort. Your freedom of association or disassociation is irrelevant when weighed against the national mission. Also annoyingly enough, both fail to see reality for what it is. There shouldn’t be non mainstream ethnic cultures in America according to your beliefs, yet they exist nonetheless. Failure to realize that the game is on while blithely maintaining there is no game is an option for those whose positions are the most secure, not for those who are the most vulnerable. Neither does ethnic cohesiveness mean foreign loyalties. Does wanting to marry another co-ethnic equal a sign of potential treason? Better get rid of all the Jews then. Does a white wanting to marry only a white mean that person is a racist? Guilty of a thought crime? Hate think?
(Even though I still have 2 posts awaiting moderation-156 and 157, from my side of the screen- I’ll post again…)
Net Kim causes such a bluster about interracial dating when the real problem is what he terms “auto-racism.” It’s in this respect only that I agree and sympathize. This is a subject I find interesting and I allude to this problem in my post in 84 where I write about expats and their wives, of how I get a concrete sense from comments here that the wives of expats spend a good, perhaps substantial, amount of their time bashing their own race, Korean/Asian men, or their country. If true, that is certainly a shame. I imagine these wives do it to solidify their relationships with their non-Korean husbands, perhaps because they’re insecure, or maybe because they’re white-washed and hate themselves, or maybe because they need to vent. I don’t know what the case is, but I’d agree with anyone who thinks it’s wrong, irresponsible, and profoundly disgraceful. But-what I don’t get is- why so much bluster and blather about it here, in this thread? Korean women aren’t the only ones who can feel self-racist and interracial dating would be immaterial to the problem.
Truth is, Net Kim writes a lot about this kind of subject because 1) he’s such a vulgar guy and thinks his “politics of pussy” and “asian-man’s nigger” are such cool concepts and 2) he’s a resentful imp. A certain writer wrote a lot about resentimente and its ramification; this writer wrote of a weaker class of unhappy people, and how such conditions are the stuff behind their views. The writer, Frederich Nietzsche, was writing about the priestly caste and Christianity, but the concept applies here too. I’d sum it up as kind of jealousy losers feel.
Alright, NK. Let’s assume that you are absolutely right. Let’s assume that the Asian-American community is filled with self-loathing women who are only attracted to white boys because they are stunted, emotional cripples. Even though I consider you less qualified to understand the psychological workings of women than most house pets are, let’s assume you’ve got this one nailed.
How in pluperfect hell does your regiment of vitriol, bile and hatred come close to remedying the situation? Do you honestly believe you can shame these women into emotional maturity? More importantly, how do you not see that by insulting and denigrating them, you are essentially DOING THE SAME THING TO THEM THAT YOU ACCUSE THEM OF DOING. You’re tearing away at your own community for the crime of tearing away at the community. Why can’t you see that? And for Christ’s sake, don’t come back at me with some “they did it first” or “tough love” argument. We’re adults here.
If you actually believed what you say, and are not retarded, you would be the first to counsel understanding and case-by-case reflection for the choices that Asian-American women make. But instead, you put out the exact opposite of what would supposedly forward your cause. Really makes me wonder where your priorities are.
If anything above hasn’t hit the mark, here’s one more shot: what you’ve been doing so far . . . how’s that workin’ out for you? Not so well? Hmmm, maybe you’re just not being hateful enough. Yeah, that must be it.
Sonagi and Netizen Kim,
I’m sure you’ll enjoy this video. David Mura, “The Paranoid Asian American”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgDl3qbgDk8
— BTW, why I do my posts keep getting caught by the filter? This post will probably be caught too. I’ve got three posts now awaiting moderation. I might as well be posting stuff on my wall instead, because it feels like I’m talking to it.
Must? When you have kids of your own, Jing, you can teach them your notions of right or wrong, but my female hindbrain senses that no woman would want your sperm anywhere near her eggs.
那么无耻人就是你了.
Netizen,
So now you’re a spokesperson for “Hapas” too? Coming from a multi-racial family, I can tell you that your theory of lost and damaged twiggies struggling to come to terms with the world doesn’t really bear out. My cousins, nephews and nieces get along just fine – and I expect my kids will too. You ought to read this.
granfalloon on NK: “Really makes me wonder where your priorities are.”
That’s an easy one — to excuse his inability to land a desirable Korean girl. I thought we all knew that one.
This is really a stupid thread! If an Asian woman wants to marry a white guy, so what!? Perhaps one should find himself someone and stop wallowing in bitterness.
#166
“Dogbertt and Setnaffa embody what I view as the fundamental shift towards totalitarian tendencies due to the pedagogical influences of Bolshevism. All must be in service to the state. There must be no room for personal identities antithetical to the needs of the many. Your biological and reproductive choices must serve our grand nation building effort. ”
How ironic…
Thumbs up to pawii, as usual.
Granfalloon: How in pluperfect hell does your regiment of vitriol, bile and hatred come close to remedying the situation? Do you honestly believe you can shame these women into emotional maturity? More importantly, how do you not see that by insulting and denigrating them, you are essentially DOING THE SAME THING TO THEM THAT YOU ACCUSE THEM OF DOING. You’re tearing away at your own community for the crime of tearing away at the community. Why can’t you see that? And for Christ’s sake, don’t come back at me with some “they did it first” or “tough love” argument. We’re adults here.
OK. I concede. Ultimately, you’re right. Ironic, though, that such words come forth from a guy who calls himself “Granfalloon”.
If you want more insight to my underlying philosophy, read “Martin & Malcolm & America: Dream or Nightmare” by Dr David Cone. For every liberation theology that has a MLK Jr, who advocates integration and peace, there must also be a Malcolm X, who instigates separatism, preaches “by any means necessary”, and brings not peace but a sword. Opposite forces yet complementary to each other, one cannot exist without the other, like a taijitu, the movement as a whole needed both. Towards the end of their lives, however, the separatist Malcolm X changed to become more like MLK, Jr and MLK, Jr became more like Malcolm X.
Sonagi: Must? When you have kids of your own, Jing, you can teach them your notions of right or wrong, but my female hindbrain senses that no woman would want your sperm anywhere near her eggs.
Jing, always remember that gender relations is fundamentally a power struggle. While we have universal truth, reason, and appeal to moral sanction on our side, the only thing that a woman has to control men is the power of her vagina.
cmm: That’s an easy one — to excuse his inability to land a desirable Korean girl. I thought we all knew that one.
You really are a one-trick pony aren’t you, cmm? Here’s a big hint: when you’ve told the same joke like about a hundred times, it ceases to be funny.
Now, Ladies and Genitals, I’ve had a long week. I’m tired, need sleep, and I’ve got a hot date tomorrow. Good night.
Jing — Might I suggest that even in times of “more traditional family and cultural arrangements” — yes, even before the pernicious influence of Bolshevism on our social discourse — that ethnicity was rarely a determining factor in marriage in the West, a phenomenon that goes back at least to the Roman Empire and in ready evidence in the royal families of Europe. Religion? Yes. Ethnicity? No. When given a choice to marry a co-ethnic of a different religion and another ethnicity of the same faith, religion trumped ethnicity almost every time. With the diminishing role of religion in Western societies, even this factor is no longer, well, a factor.
Might I also suggest that in the case of the United States, where miscegenation laws against blacks and Asians (and social attitudes after those laws were repealed) were the product NOT of a simple and natural desire by white Americans to preserve their culture and national identity, but rather an integral part and legacy of slavery and white racism and quite at odds with Western tradition. The effort to repeal those laws and overcome subsequent social attitudes probably have less to do with Marxism and more to do with simple human decency.
I wasn’t joking and it was never funny. Good luck on your date, seriously.
Mr. Koeheler…very well said and written, but you’re talking to a pair of tits, pearls before swine
This is actually quite inaccurate as the definition of whiteness in American society has become largerly fluid: a significant chunk of the 75% of American population currently identifying as white would scarcely have been considered so a century ago.
For instance i’d doubt somebody whose ancestry is let’s say 1/4 Lebanese/Armenian/Iranian 1/4 Greek/Italian and the remaining half nordic would not identify himself/herself as white. At the turn of the 20th century white basically meant nordic
This is almost wjk level (it’s meant to be a compliment)
Ah must be aging and the joys of interracial marriage (among them the chance to watch the whole Moraeshigae with detailed explanations about the historical background, i even learned what a political kkanpae was)
Give Bubba a hug and a kiss from me
Which seems to be enough, in your cases.
That doesn’t describe the relationship dynamics of any AF-WM couple I know. Not saying there aren’t any couples where this is true (I’m sure there are many), just that I don’t know any.
Ok — skipping over the fact that personal anecdotes don’t carry too much weight in theoretical discussions — let’s assume you are spot on.
Well, the logical conclusion is to encourage, not discourage, interracial AF-WM unions. Because, according to your analysis, there is a high probability that their offspring will “identify more as Asian,” hate “whitey,” marry Asian, and thus the number of white male children will continually decrease as the coupling continues. Net result: less white males on the planet to steal your Asian females – i.e. victory!
While defining what constitutes a “whitey” is problematic at best, most estimates put the world population of “caucasians” (again, whatever they are) at about only 20% (and only about half of that figure is male). While “Asians” (again, a difficult category to define, if it exists at all) are estimated to account for at least triple that amount. And there’s consensus that the world population of “whiteys” is dropping and, indeed, expected to continue to drop – perhaps as much as half within only 50 years. Well, isn’t this cause for celebration for you? Less white men, less interracial treachery, n’est-ce pas?
But instead you seem to be advocating that “whitey” up their numbers by only marrying within the “ethnic” group (if such exists) — the Stormfront boys must just adore you.
So in sum, your theories seem to revolve around the fact that you, as you put it, have been “mind-fucked beyond repair,” and your interest seems to be in continuing to “mind-fuck” yourself with these masturbatory theories rather than in actually solving the “race problem” you are desperate to alert us to.
If the ‘listing ship’ is metaphor you choose to alert us of the danger to the “community,” then your task should be to get her on an “even keel”. But AF-WM interracial unions, by your analysis, do just that.
Darth,
Indeed I would think that the dynamic in a Korean-Expat marriage is bashing their own husband.
I was going to say the same thing, but thought the joke was too obvious.
He’s not desperate about any race problem, if he was he would not obsess only on “bitches” running out with different race guys but also on the male side of the equation (and not only the white boys club), i think IHBB actually pointed this out better than me.
At least some black separatist guys are less hypocritical as they harshly reprimand those brothers who choose a partner outside of their ethnic pool
“I was going to say the same thing, but thought the joke was too obvious.”
Nothing is too obvious for some of the crowd here. Gawd help NK when he does get his dream of a Korean woman. He’s gonna have to take it all back.
Ps…what joke!!
ajummahs don’t appear out of the ether….
Marmot, the behavior and mores of the feudal aristocracy had little bearing on the behavior of the general populace at large. Your hypothetical situation is irrelevant. Scant few people were ever given the choice between ethnicity & religion since almost all of the time they were one and the same and people lived and wed in close proximity to their place of origins.
There is a difference between declared preference and revealed preference. The politically correct survey answer is of course people approve of miscegenation. The behavioral data reveals strong biases towards co-racialists among women of all stripes, well except Asians that is. It is a simple natural reptilian response that no amount of wishful thinking about race will make disappear.
I never mentioned anything about anti-miscegenation laws. This is something that some people have difficulty grasping. Just becomes one disapproves of something does not automatically equate to demanding the full strength of the state in enforcing behavior. That is the typical response inculcated into people by Bolshevik programming.
The plump Mr. Marmot is correct, shared religion trumps over all. And I would also venture to guess that shared material valuation is a close second.
Yawn…the whole AF-WM thing is soooo booooring — as well as passe. I mean, nobody really gives a flying f*ck about these kinda couples anymore. Can we get to the heart of the matter vis-a-vis interracial coupling? We need to focus on the real boogie™ man and the ultimate ‘taboo couple’: (And I guarantee gpm, the brothers are not “harshly reprimanding” each other when they score some vanilla puddin’; it’s more like giving each other high fives:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnsTaJA1-EM&feature=related
#190 Sumo, I would think the latter ranks number one!
I have almost never had a korean girl ask my religion, but it sure don’t take long for them to try to pin down, education, profession, job, company, and place of abode, i.e. current wealth and or future potential wealth….
By using terms such as “racial treason”, “bitches”, “Asian Man’s Nigger”, and “full-time, non-stop Affirmative Action Program of Pussy for White Guys”, it is quite obvious there are some who really really REALLY do give a flying fuck about these kind of couples.
It’s because greedy materialistic types and narcissistic blowhards/liars are naturally drawn to each other like flies on horseshit & cowpies.
GodDAMN! JennyJenny just put a SMACKDOWN on Penfold. Shit! I ain’t seen a bitchslap like that since Snoop Dogg was hired to break in Ke$ha. Mother.
Yeah, “Jeez, arghaeri, read please before popping off.” is fair comment on my clear mistake, and cause I ain’t narcissistic, I’ was happy to admit and correct that error once realised.
Wish I hadn’t bothered to apologize now I’ve seen that comment. Really demonstrates lotto’s in built hostility to anyone disagreeing with him!
I trust lotto number will equally apologize for that completely unwarranted attack and unsubstantiated attack.
PS Only fully cited scientific papers demonstrating self-love and lies will be accepted
I must also point out lotto’s equal skimming and comprehension problems, I noted that it don’t take them girls long to “try” to pin down such details, not that I offered them. Nor, was there any suggestion that I was attracted to such types. I’m most definitely not, hence current un-materialistic spouse who married me despite having big debts and being on the verge of unemployment.
I generally tell them instead that I’m an english teacher, that usually blows them off
NOI
For better or worse, here’s WeikuBoy’s theory:
The prevalence of AF-WM couples — and, from my vantage point, the reason why it is so easy for a guy like me to meet great women in Asia — comes down in part to opposites attracting, but mostly to women liking being treated courteously by a gentleman. The concept of a gentleman simply does not exist in Asia, where the men behave, frankly, like pigs.
This would also explain why Asian-Am males, unlike Asian males, “outmarry” at higher rates that approach those of Asian-Am females. Because the further they get from the Asian culture of their parents or grandparents, the more they behave like a gentleman and less like a selfish pig.
I remember reading as a child in an old Time-Life book on “Italy” that in America, in particular, men are trained to serve women. In Italy (and in most of the world), women are trained to serve men. Thus, marriages between U.S. men and Italian war brides seemed made in heaven, while marriages between Italian men and American women seem made in hell.
True then; still true today, in Korea as well as Italy and in so many other places.
Arghaeri, I was not attacking you, nor was I suggesting that Korean girls were attracted to your “current wealth and or future potential wealth.” I was merely pointing out — in line with your original statement — that kindred spirits usually find each other, one way or the other.
So, using your experience, if someone, e.g., a girl is extremely materialistic, she’ll invariably wind up finding a guy who is either good at exaggerating or flaunting his net worth. That was not meant to be an attack on you or smack down on anyone who found their current Korean wife/girlfriend that way.
I was simply saying, “hear, hear” to your very pithy statement to which I agree with 100% — albeit in my own sardonic way. If I offended you, please accept my heartfelt apologies as that was not my intention to imply that you were either narcissistic or materialistic. And I certainly accept your apologies as well regarding your comment on the other thread you referenced.
And I admit I was just trying to push the comment count over 200. Sorry.
But, hey, mission accomplished!
#200 / #201
The old White Night/rescuing her theory. That usually doesn’t go over too well, even though there is possibly something to it.
Once you find yourself carrying 45 pounds of bags full of designer shit you paid for with a squeaky, evil voice in your back reminding you constantly what kind of miserable shitbag you truly are…you may regret ever learning the alphabet, let alone venturing into the reading of a book
Dear Brother (NetizenKim),
I hope you had an awesome Saturday.
Dear Brother (NetizenKim),
I hope you had an awesome Saturday.
Yes, I did. She is very well-spoken. I met her at 12:30 and we parted at a quarter to 7 but it seemed like a blink. I will continue to see her.
I hope you don’t mind my tendency to indulge in controversy-making here at the Hole. Here is a place where I am fairly guaranteed that my ideas or opinions will be subjected to the severest of peer review, and as an added bonus, one’s skin is a little thicker after one is done wading through all the ad hominem bluster. I’ve been doing this for more than five years and each time I learn something new.
Brother,
I’m really glad to hear you guys are having a good start.
Oh, and I wanna tell you something. You’ve got everything it takes to win a woman’s heart, take my word for it, you really do. Believe in yourself, and stay positive. Not all women are power-hungry, money-grubbing, slutty social-climbers. There really are ladies out there who fit your type of a dream girl.
I’ll keep my fingers crossed till I hear the good news from you.
I appreciate your presence here. Just make sure you don’t get on Mr. Koehler’s nerves.
“I’ve been doing this for more than five years and each time I learn something new.”
As a long-time reader, I see little to no growth and a tired, unconvincing meme trotted out so often that I can regurgitate from memory. I doubt I’m alone.
As the years go by, Net Kim’s comments have become more and more insipid, his arguments have become more and more convoluted, and his points seem more and more injected from that random, nonsequitir space of loony.
The embarassment factor that Net Kim causes for himself has certainly increased. Yet, one thing remains the same: Annoying lack of substance, persistent lack of sincerity in all his arguments.
Haven’t read Fred Reed – but I don’t think I want to now. He seems like a douchebag stylistically speaking with not much to offer intellectually speaking.
Fred Reed is probably all like, “There is this damn Korean on the blogs bringing down my name!”
That’s great to see. I can’t say I mind the reverse bashing, though.
I think we’re slowly moving into a new age. Hell, even pawi is OK with exogamy.
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