All I can say is this accident is both tragic and infuriating — a perfect storm of poor driving behavior.
Bus Tragedy Near Incheon Bridge
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The Matiz driver broken down in the middle lane of three lanes? I can’t imagine any scenario (other that very slow or stop and go traffic and it doesn’t sound like that was the case) in which one would have to break down in the middle without pulling over to the side. Unbelievable.
minus driver, “broken down” —->”broke down”
@1 – it was a woman-driver.
I’m heading to Incheon in two days by way of bus, and stories like this scare the living crap out of me.
I’m terrified of tour buses that go anywhere near a mountain. We have season passes to a ski resort which cover transportation, but I drive anyway. Not only are the buses heated like a sauna while everyone is suited up in ski gear, but the drivers are usually maniacs on the twisty, narrow, icy roads.
I found the maniacs on the slopes to be a greater worry.
Seatbelts?- i always wear mine even on the bus.
they just dont care about safety in this country. not at all.
#1: Korean drivers often don’t attempt to move off to the side of the road in the case of a breakdown – and almost never try to move out of the way in case of an accident – even a fender bender.
I believe the oft-repeated argument goes: well, if you can’t hold onto your baby, you just don’t love him enough.
The first argument I ever had with my mother-in-law was over my insistence of using a car seat. I still get tsk-tsked from family and friends. Mr. Choi usually shoots the “Please don’t get her started!” glance and prays that the offending party has just a smidge of 눈치.
Korea is a country where Final Destination scenarios abound. I’m astounded that the director/screenwriter of this Darwinian-laced franchise, James Wong, hasn’t thought of setting an entire installment in the ROK.
People of this timbre and variety that inadvertently cause the deaths of dozens — if not hundreds of people at a time — due to their carelessness or ignorance, are literally a dime a dozen in Korea. It’s almost as if these people have a spirit of death about them, and this is exactly what the FD franchise tries to capitalize on.
If it were not this 48-year-old 못말여 behind the wheel of a Daewoo Matiz™, arguably one of the most dangerous and unreliable cars on the road in Korea today due to its notoriously defective transmission that needs to be replaced almost every year or 10,000 miles — whichever comes first — compounded by such massive selfishness and inconsideration to others on the road, there are the others whose actions have caused the death of others without as much as an afterthought that read like a laundry list of death a la carte. To wit:
1) 1998: A Seoul-based kindergarten takes dozens of its young charges on a weekend excursion to the outskirts of Seoul. (The accommodations for these aged 5- to 6-year-olds are refurbished CONEX containers converted for use as trailers. The electrical wiring is ad hoc, leaving exposed wires hanging alongside the exposed painted metal surfaces of the containers.) The teachers/chaperones, at the behest of one recently recovered alcoholic who recently decided to make a new change in her life as a kindergarten teacher, quickly encourages the staff to put all the kids to bed, so they can have a soju party and bbq by the river. To make sure their little charges do not interfere with their drinking party and having a good time, the former alkie teacher makes sure that all the CONEX trailers are locked from the outside so the kids can’t get out. While she encourages the rest of the staff into drinking and singing by the river, several hundred meters away from the childrens’ trailers, an arc fire from the faulty electrical wiring starts inside the trailers, and is quickly accelerated due to the painted surfaces on the interior. All the children are incinerated to death before the carousing and drunk teachers are even aware of what’s going on.
2) 1995: 삼풍백화점 collapse – June 29, 1995: A chain reaction of stupidity and greed-based decisions cause the death of 501 people and the injuries of over 900 people in the largest peacetime disaster in Korea’s history.
3) 2004: Faulty wiring in several newly installed faux gas-lamp type electrical lighting in places like Apgujeong-dong and the Seoul Bus Terminal cause a short circuit and the fatal electrocution of unaware pedestrians as they cross over a fatal perimeter of of electrically charged sidewalk during a rainstorm.
4) 1980s-present: While PMCS (preventive maintenance checks and services) is standard operating procedure for any military personnel in the U.S. military who operates a military vehicle or weapons system as part of a gun crew, most ROK military, particularly of the older generation never had this type of training or instruction. As a result, tragic accidents that rarely happen elsewhere, have been a regular occurrence with ROK units for decades, to do heavy usage, but poor PMCS. Typical fatal military accidents that are common in the ROK:
-exploding artillery or mortar pieces: Due to poor PMCS and overall age of many of these weapon systems, ROK units have lost many personnel due to frequent explosions of poorly maintained artillery due to incompetence or poor training, mostly by reserve troops.
Any others?
One of the passenger who died was a Korean-American pastor named Kenny Ye and he was traveling with Professor Gary Parrett from Goldon-Conwell Theological Seminary. They were on the way back to States when they were on the airport shuttel bus to Inchon. RIP pastor Kenny.
@ Mrs. Choi: I am astounded by how often in Korea you pull up behind a car at a red light – only to be greeted by a young child or two standing in the back seat looking at you from the rear window of the car in front of you. I’m talking about 3 and 4 year old kids.
Korean parents spend a fortune educating their kids to ensure a good education – but then don’t bother to spend 100,000 won for a decent car seat to protect them while out driving around.
While driving habits in Korea have improved a lot over the years – sudden stops are still very common.
김여사
Robert’s bandwidth bill would prefer no one answer that question.
IHBB, I’d heard that the new soccer ball was too perfectly spherical to fly straight, but rumor must be wrong — particularly since you’re a straight shooter.
Jeffery Hodges
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In Korea, safety is not a concept.
“arguably one of the most dangerous and unreliable cars on the road in Korea today”
You need to check your data, unless you’re talking about the old Matiz. The Matiz Creative is considered benchmarking on safety, even by European standards.
http://www.automobilesreview.com/auto-news/gm-daewoo-matiz-creative/17248/
# 11 8675309
- 1999? Kangwondo Bus accident – A bus was tailgating another bus full of kids and rear ended the other. One was using that cheap knock off gas – boom! both busses engulfed in flames. Kids couldn’t get out – roasted them all.
- Daejeon subway fire
PS> I just dropped 15 mil on a new car (Kia Soul) so i could get the 100,000 won car seat properly installed.
I simply can not fathom how people can ignore the safety of children. I can understand if there are simply no options, which is commonly the case in 3rd world countries, but in South Korea? Aren’t there laws governing this junk? China is much the same way, except i don’t think anyone uses car seats at all, at least i’ve never seen one….
My 1yr9mth old boy was in a car accident last weekend. Some dumb broad chose to run a stop sign because it was late and she thought there wouldn’t be any traffic (!!!!!). The collision spun the car several times. No injuries to my boy due to the car seat. How can people not consider what would happen if there was no car seat???
I always wondered about the car and traffic safety in S.Korea with it’s very unsafe reputation. …whether it was a regulation problem or an enforcement problem.
With regards to seat belts -> I think everybody in Korea wears them in the front seats just not in the back seats. As this popular blog by a Japanese woman in Korea points out , it was the same in Japan but a campaign in 2008 has changed it. I think back seat belts and children’s car seats are long due for a campaign in Korea and it will be suddenly, everyone wearing them, the bosons they are. It’s just not been programmed into their brains yet, they just don’t know about it.
Studies show that seat belts in buses really don’t provided any added protection:
http://www.gnb.ca/0000/publications/transport/seatbelt.pdf
I didn’t see any such statement in that information flyer, Wangkon. The flyer noted all the safety features of Canadian school buses, the injury risks of lap belts, especially for young children, and the unsuitability of seat belts with shoulder restraints for school bus seats, which are designed differently than seats on large charter-type buses like the one involved in the crash. Seat belts with shoulder restraints might have prevented people from hitting the ceiling when the bus landed upside down.
people didn’t wear their seat belts here until well into the late 70s. why did people change? because of education and the threat of fines.
One last question – isn’t it true that 100% of rear-end accidents are the fault of the driver who hit the other driver?
100% the drivers fault because they are either driving too fast, too close to the next vehicle, or are not paying attention.
Little red warning triangles on the road are no substitute for defensive driving habits; it seems after reading the news stories that the Korean road authorities do not understand what the problem is.
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