Good news — Samsung has dropped its case against Mike Breen (see here).
Needless to say, congratulations go out to him.
UPDATE: OK, just the civil case was dropped.
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So, at least one person at Samsung’s legal department has a brain.
red sparrow or in the PR department…..
Whoever had this brilliant idea should be fired (but is probably related to “The Great Chairman” and thus safe).
Hmm, that’s odd. Why would Samsung drop the case when they had nothing to lose?
At least someone there had the good sense to see that this was not going to make Samsung or Korea look very good. This is the kind of thing that the international journalist community would not take lightly.
Shite, there goes my case study. Just kidding–glad to hear it, Mike.
Great news for Breen, and no doubt the right decision, but bitch Samsung has still shown its true colors. In the meantime, I’ll save boycottsamsung.com till next time. ‘Cause we all know there’ll be a next time.
Mazel tov, Michael!
DLB
WTG Breen…
Maybe they didn’t want anymore bad press on this..
http://techdirt.com/articles/20100510/1820159367.shtml#comments
Glad to hear it. Congrats, Mr. Breen.
Maui: nice link. I especially like the article’s second last paragraph, which I won’t quote here, for liability reasons. (snicker)
Kick ass.
I tipped gizmodo.com on this and they posted it; let’s hope the negative publicity makes them think twice about doing this again in the future:
http://gizmodo.com/5536230/samsung-sues-journalist-for-satirical-article
Did Breen apologize, though?
Plenty of “I Heart Samsung” news in the KT:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2010/05/123_65717.html
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/05/123_65734.html
Someone in the higher ups probably realized two things:
One, Michael Breen probably doesn’t have a million dollars just laying around.
Two, Samsung would stand to be ridiculed in many different ways, in many different countries, and in a very public setting for as long as the trial went on. Regardless of the outcome, Samsung would still be the ‘bad guy’ for offending a Western legal concept, which definitely translates to the bottom line.
Congrats, Michael. Keep writing good stuff.
of course it would be interesting to know the details of the deal, but if there’s not been any additional apology / payment / whatever, it’s probably the best outcome both parties could have hoped for.
congrats to Michael for his determination, and congrats to Samsung for moving in the right direction.
Congratulations to Mike Breen! Glad to see someone in Samsung has some common sense.
Was any reason given? Did the LA Times report have anything to do with?
Thanks for the comments. I turned up (2 mins late) at the court today and it was empty save for two officials who confirmed what the judge told a certain reporter a few minutes earlier – Samsung withdrew their complaint yesterday.
That’s the civil case. I checked with the prosecutor who investigated me for the criminal case and he said it’s gone to the court. A spy told me they’re proposing a fine but not jail time. I assume Samsung has informed them of its withdrawal of the civil complaint, but don’t know yet.
As I think I mentioned somewhere yesterday, a wrote a 4th apology on Friday – one that I consider dignified and which didn’t suggest I was taking my trousers. I was told this piece of paper was good enough.
Sorry about typos. The last para shld read:
As I think I mentioned somewhere yesterday, I wrote a 4th apology on Friday – one that I consider dignified and which didn’t suggest I was taking my trousers down. I was told this piece of paper was good enough.
Talking of which, I always need an editor: when I wrote the apology,the person carrying it called to point out that I had written that “I wrote the column with malicious intent.” I’d omitted the “no.” Phew! I doubt the bunts would have noticed. Ooops, tehre’s another one… and another
Wow, so they’re still pursuing the criminal case? Wouldn’t that technically be the worse of the two?
In my case, even though the civil case didn’t hold up, the criminal libel case still went to the prosecutor, who said I was partially guilty–not fully guilty because my web site wasn’t big enough. It ended up taking a bite out of my winnings against my former employer in the end.
Hmmm. Could this be case of Samsung avoiding appearing as a free-press-crushing ogre, while at the same time sticking it to Mr. Breen via the criminal charge (using their influence on the prosecutor)?
Then you’d better be real real glad. There is a shload of people in Samsung with lots of common sense and intelligence.
And a lot of bunts too.
Mike,
Just curious, did you have to deliver the apology while wearing white clothing and your hands tied with hemp rope?
Hey, that’s great news.
Congrats Mike. I say you follow 8674309′s advice and wrap your criticisms of chaebol overlords in thickly allegorical pasori songs…
Actually, I’m just kidding…
#22
Cactus, no such pressure. As I mentioned yesterday in the other thread, stupid as it may appear to some, my conscience came before the result, so I said what I was comfortable with – basically, no offense intended and sorry if it was taken.
Congratulations, Mike, and here’s hoping that there’s more good news to follow.
#23
WangKon, actually not so crazy. Maybe we need to create a fictional chaebol chairman and his letters to his son….
Do you think if you added the “t” to the middle of a certain chaebol chief’s name that it would qualify as fiction?
Mike,
It could be just like Peter Benchley’s Jaws. Put every bad thing that a shark can be and put it in one big giant “super shark!” Make loads of money on the movie rights…
I hope Samsung will keep Mr. Breen’s phone number on file. Seems like they could use a good PR firm.
As has usually been the case, a little international embarrassment has helped the cause of Korean democracy. Someone buy the LAT’s Mr. Glionna a beer for me at the SFCC, please.
No less interesting as part of this very teachable moment is the fact that so far I’ve only been able to find this story in Korean in two places: A Korean radio station in Los Angeles and a left-of-center, non-mainstream website in Seoul. Now that the case is starting to be over I’ll bet it gets some more coverage. But so far it’s been like total self-imposed silence, which is as telling as the rest of the case. Scary stuff.
http://www.radiokorea.com/main/news/news_articles.asp?category=quick_news&seq=29305
http://www.newscham.net/news/view.php?board=news&nid=56701
#30: I’ll shout him a W1000 brew for you.
Here goes my favourite source of Vaudeville entertainment….well a good joke is always short.
My impression is that each side saved face in front of Korean society, while their respective backers think their opponent didn’t
It is absolutely absurd that this could be called a “criminal case.”
Sickeningly absurd.
“적반하장” in my book.
Good news. Also reminds me that the LA Times is one of the best non-Korean papers for (esp N.) Korean reporting. And an honor for Brendon to be quoted at length in the paper that publishes Barbara Demick.
Best of luck with the criminal case M Breen (seems to strange to type that… criminal?). Undoubtedly will be closely followed here…
I’m trying to find the original column that was removed from the KT. It was available on Google cache, but I can’t find it anywhere now. Can someone advise on how to find it?
If you know the old url, you could try plugginng it into the Wayback Machine @ http://web.archive.org/web/20100512062942/*/about:blank
Good job, Mike. I hope you can sell the movie rights.
Lord Almighty !! Somebody run and warn LKH, LMB, the UN Security Council, the board of the ECB, Chopper Benny, Timmy TurboTax and the rest of the power that be that a fierce legion of spectacled Morrissey fans, led by Hermione Granger, are strictly monitoring the progress of the Republic of Korea toward an open, free-speech based society…
And it ain’t no joke, maaannnnn !!!!
Scary indeed.
@35 & 36
The old KT urls:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2009/12/202_57880.html
http://211.234.100.245/www/news/opinon/2009/12/196_57880.html
Michael,
Any chance you’d be willing to post a copy of Samsung’s original complaint? My Korean legalese isn’t as good as my conversational Korean, but I’d still love to look at Samsung’s actual filing papers. I’d think they’d be a matter of public record, but I leave it to you.
Congrats, again.
DLB
Where’s pawi? I’m interested in hearing his insight on this matter.
Congratulations to you Mr Breen.
No doubt getting fucked with by Samsung, the most quintessential symbol of The Man around these parts, has afforded you tons of “mad street cred” amongst the cohorts of the Dept of White Boys as an Oppressed Minority and the Angry Expat Commentariat of the Hole.
You’re a certified Homeboy now.
Again, props to you sir.
#42 / NK,
You sound disappointed that Mike wasn’t kimchi’d and feathered while being put aboard a rat-ridden trawler bound for Saipan. Can’t you relish the fact that, race aside, this was a victory, however cloudy, of the individual over the evil corporation?
This has less to do with Korea than you think, but since you always seem to look for the Minjok bugbear in any story of this outcome, I salute you for staying pure of purpose.
And, really, it’s spelled Department of White Boyzzz. Get your Flava Flav thing happening, because I know you have soul.
Hugs from the Department’s factotum,
jh
Shouldn’t NK and the nationalist camp be more exercised about the fact that Samsung bowed to the pressure of potentially bad INTERNATIONAL PR while its domestic Korean critics will have to remain cowed or keep on taking it up the butt from their chaebol crime boss master?
After something like 4 written apologies ? Damn an average Prez of some Central Asian Republic has more standing when Vladimir from Moscow visit
Slim has it exactly right. Samsung’s willingness to go Soprano whenever it wants to is something that Koreans just have to “sit down and shut up” and accept. How many average Koreans could expect to get even a rag like the Joongang Ilbo, much less the LA Times, to rush to their defense if they voiced complaints about the DPRS?
What this also shows is a complete collapse if a number of institutions, not least of which was the Korea Times, the broader Korean media, the Prosecutors’ Office, and, of course, Samsung itself, its legal department, and the long list of su’chop-wielding flunky executives (all SNU grads, no doubt) who certainly had to sign of on the company’s decision to go rogue.
It’d be nice to think this was just a case of Samsung having a hissy fit. It’s looks to be a bit more than that.
DLB
Seriously speaking (once in a lifetime) what is the true outcome of this story ? Samsung dropped under the condition that Mr. Breen will from now on behave, so it basically acted somehow like a magnanimous bully ? This option that if i recall correctly was suggested by B. Carr somewhere.
Or you think that Samsung just backed down and Mr. Breen et al from now on will have relatively more freedom to express their mmh views ?
I’m not trying to be an asshole this time, as i think this is not a subtle difference, it would actually determine the real winner of this affair
In other words who’s walking away scared and who’s emboldened from all this ?
#43
Cactus, I am not disappointed about anything. I’m sure Mr Breen (not going to assume a breezy familiarity with the man by referring to him as “Mike”) does not deserve what had happened to him. I am sure that getting sued by a powerful and ticked-off Chaebol behemoth, with a vast array of resources at its disposal, is not a fun experience. Although, it seems a bit more glamorous than, say, being a lowly dry cleaner and being sued over a pair of pants or something ridiculous like that. I was just having a bit o fun by trying my hand at a bit of satirical jest. You guys do get satire, don’t you?
#44
Slim, whatever faults Samsung may have truly does not bother me in the slightest. To me Lee Kun Hee is no more a “crime boss master” than Vanderbilt, Carnegie, Rockefeller or any of the celebrated robber barons of America’s Gilded Age.
Someone at Expat Korea has posted the full text here . The poster named The Bobster said he pulled it once out of nervousness before reposting. I took a snapshot of the page and copied the text, so if it disappears again, I’ll repost it somewhere besides this blog.
@49 I was just having a bit o fun by trying my hand at a bit of satirical jest.
I’d say you failed, unless you were mocking yourself, because that satire was exactly the same content and tone as your usual stated views on such matters.
Date didn’t go so well then?
@hoju_saram,
You’ve got it backwards. The date DID go well. NK’s all about receiving acceptance from someone. If it hadn’t been from the girl, he would have come crawling back here looking for reassurance.
(We’ll see what happens over the next few days…)
Call me crazy, but I’m going to step out on a limb and predict anti-white-man
rantssatirical jests.Sonagi (#50), I see why the prosecutor grilled Mr. Breen on his fact checking. Just look at this putative ‘fact’:
“The prime minister’s wife, Miyuki, enclosed tickets for Korea’s first couple to join her next visit to Venus.”
Just a little fact checking would have ascertained that Miyuki’s astral projections to Venus don’t need any tickets.
Some journalist Mr. Breen is. No wonder he’s writing for the Korea Times!
Jeffery Hodges
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#40
DLB, if you can tell me how to convert a pdf into word, I can post the main parts. Otherwise, pls email me at mike.breen@insightcomms.com and I’ll send Korean and English translation to you.
http://www.zamzar.com
Converts many types of files. If you can read English, you can use it.
Just upload the PDF to GoogleDocs and set it to public. Unless I’m missing something?
You really miss the lesson provided by Samsung and, as such, are grossly lacking as a Korean citizen — if you are one — or a person with any shred of reason or insight. Please go back and read some speeches by some of the original Korean independence leaders.
The important issue at hand was never about a “white boys” club, but about the undue influence in the courts and government that Samsung has, often at the expense of the republic and its citizens. I do not believe that the original independence leaders were struggling to empower “chaebol” or foment those habits that lack virtue or merit, thus robbing the country of its legitimacy in self-governance.
Breen,
I just re-read the original KT article you wrote–absolutely hilarious!!!
Great work. Laughing my ass off still!!!
Question: Have any of the other folks/companies discussed in the piece
filed criminal lawsuits? Seems like a lack of other such lawsuits would
render Samsung’s case absurd. Further, with all the other folks you lampoon in the article, I can’t see how any ordinary person with a brain could construe
this piece as anything other than comedy, especially given your reputation as a humorist/satirist for the KT (would someone be dumb enough to believe the Miyuki–Venus trip thing?).
Either way, I loved the article. You never disappoint!
I can’t get any of the links to the original article to work… combination of firewall, proxy server mangling the links, and things being taken down.
Could someone who has the full text post it and then provide a very short URL to it (perhaps using tinyurl.com).
Many thanks in advance.
to Net Kim, everything is about the “white boys” club.
@ slim re: Netizen Kim
NK with his 이른바 “satire” has neatly proven a secular version of Poe’s Law. To paraphrase: a parody of an extreme position becomes indistinguishable from the real thing, without giving some clue (like a winking face).
#62,
Not quite…
http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/402128.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/20/business/worldbusiness/20samsung.html
#60
Exit, thanks. The Blue House spokeswoman called the editor and complained that it was inappropriate for the president to be satirised. Apart from that, nothing. To be honest, I doubt they read it.
I wonder if Michael Breen’s writings as the official historian for the Unification Church were as subtly satirical as his Samsung stuff. If so, the man deserves a gold star.
# 66
dogbertt, you keep pushing that button.
“Samsung stuff?” Two sentences, for God’s sake!
Anyway, I tried being satirical in my bio of Kim Jong-il, but, frankly, it didn’t work. I’m not happy with that book. I’m am not and was not the official historian of the Unification Church. I’ve thought of a satirical book on that theme – some ex-members in a news group elevated one of their number as a spoof messiah in a comedy that went on for three or four years and produced some priceless material. But I want to do something different on that theme.
#40
DLB, I’ve decided not to post the Complaint because I can’t get rid of the references to the other defendants who prefer this to be put behind us. I can send privately in Eng and Kor if anyone wants it.
Stop that, dogbertt.
My bad — you are erroneously listed in some websites as such.
Robert — no intention to bait Mr. Breen, but it’s a fair point as he is a public figure and his former affiliation with the U.C. is widely known. And Mr. Breen mentioned @67 that he may do something on that theme.
To be honest, having had some contact with U.C. members/leadership in Europe some years ago (“CAUSA” may ring a bell with Mr. Breen), I am surprised that someone of Mr. Breen’s obvious intelligence was associated with them — not being at all sarcastic. The best of them were like unto high-functioning Asperger’s Syndrome sufferers. I’m sure he has many interesting tales to tell and I for one would buy such a book if he ever writes one.
Dogbertt, every religion looks unbelievable from the outside. From the inside, though, the dogmas all seem to make sense, and you’ll find plenty of smart people in every religion. Sayyid Qutb seems to have been something of a genius, for instance.
Jeffery Hodges
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@ SomeguyinKorea (#64)
Kim Yong-chul’s case is interesting given how quickly he has disappeared from the limelight despite the size of the story.
Someone might consider asking why the president of the Seoul Foreign Correspondents’ Club recently saw fit to reject a request by its members to invite Kim to address the club about his latest book.
Trace it back. Which company currently has the concession to run the SFCC’s bar/restaurant? And who owns that company?
Aha. Now you see?
Surely Mr. Breen (and Robert as well) can understand the curiosity exhibited by dogbertt with regards to the nature and extent of his participation in the Unification Church and not take offense at the push of that button.
The juxtaposition of Breen’s solid reputation as both a journalist and author (or as dogbertt put it, someone of his “obvious intelligence”) with an established association to the Moon cult is bound to bring up some questions of exactly how and why that relationship came to be, as well as what he thinks about it now if he is in fact an ex-member and has attained some distance.
It would seem that his use of the term “spoof messiah” and talk of satire in relation to the UC would indicate that he possibly has a sense of humor about the subject, and I would guess that’s what dogbertt and others (including myself) would be interested to know. After all, it’s not often that you hear the phrases “obvious intelligence” and “wacko cult” associated with the same person.
Of course he’s not obligated to share anything regarding his religion, but at the same time it can’t come as a surprise that given his public persona and the reputation of the UC, that the intersection of those two worlds are bound to raise some questions.
Regardless, he can count me in as another potential customer for a book detailing his interactions with other cult members. Now that I think of it, another beneficial byproduct of his potential tell-all could be that it just may inspire another well-known Marmot’s Hole commenter of obvious intelligence to pen his own inside account of his seduction by a cult…
“The Power of Ignorance, Arrogance, and a Pair Of Tits: How Sarah Palin Duped Me and Millions of Others” by Brendon Carr.
The Samsung v. Breen issue couldn’t be more apropos. The UN Special Rapporteur on the promotion and protection of the right to freedom of opinion and expression just happens to be in town.
The last visit was 15 years ago and it is by sheer coincidence that from May 6-17 Mr. Frank La Rue, the current Special Rapporteur is here in Seoul on a “fact-finding mission”.
For more info on Special Rapporteur La Rue:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcvxnnb3_117gkqt2zf6
The Special Rapporteur recently explained that his “fact-finding mission”
http://www.ohchr.org/en/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=10016&LangID=E
Mr. La Rue will be speaking at Yonsei University this Saturday (May 15, 2010) at 10:30am. More info is available here:
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcvxnnb3_119fw7h2fg2
Apparently a press conference will also be held at 2:30pm on Monday (May 17, 2010) at the Foreign Correspondents’ Club in Seoul (18F, Korea Press Center Building, Taepyongno-1Ga, Jung-Gu, Seoul).
The office of the Special Rapporteur can be reached by email at freedex@ohchr.org – more info is available here:
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/issues/opinion/index.htm
The Republic of Korea addressed the UN Human Rights Council on March 2, 2010 and, in addition to discussing many other important issues, explained that the nation was
A video of the ROK’s address to the Human Rights Council is available here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYjFGZ_Gbp8
The Pressian breaks the story including the fact that “foreigners” at “The Marmot’s Hole blog” left “216 comments” about it.
http://www.pressian.com/article/article.asp?article_num=60100512160523§ion=02
So how long before bloggers and commenters start getting sued I wonder?
hello? hello? anyone there? who turned off the lights?
I don’t see the comments at Pressian, but at least in respect of reporting what it is I was quoted as saying in the Los Angeles Times, the Pressian reporter did a very good job of accurately translating the quote. No distortion at all. As a reader of Korean as a second language I’m tone-deaf, of course, so maybe it comes off badly, but for now I am pleased at not having been misrepresented. And the reporter even transliterated my foreign name the same way I spell it in hangul — an added bonus! Good job, Pressian.
“한국에 거주하는 외국인들이 주로 찾는 블로그의 하나인 ‘The Marmot’s Hole’에 실린 관련 글에는 13일 오후 현재 216개의 코멘트가 달려 있다.”
Is that really necessary? Robert’s frightened out of his wits as it is.
A suggestion for Mr Marmot: a dozen or so titty posts ought to relegate the whole Samsung schmergen off the front page.
한 누리꾼은 “내가 이 회사(삼성)를 애용하지 않는 이유”라며 “내 응원팀인 첼시FC의 셔츠 앞면에 검정색 테이프를 둘러야 할 때”라고 비꼬았다.
다른 누리꾼은 “기업홍보(PR)의 실패 사례”라며 “만약 이번 소식이 나 에도 실린다면 삼성은 희망하는 수준 이상의 엄청난 규모로 피해를 입을 것”이라고 설명했다.
다른 누리꾼은 “기업홍보(PR)의 실패 사례”라며 “만약 이번 소식이 나 에도 실린다면 삼성은 희망하는 수준 이상의 엄청난 규모로 피해를 입을 것”이라고 설명했다.
the second paragraph got messed up because of those damn popups! above is the complete paragragh.
something is happening w the quote when i post it here.
…소식이 financial times 나 wall street journal 에도 실린다면….
I actually read Sonagi’s link to the original column. I must say, it was much funnier than I thought.
I forgot to put a slash before the second blockquote. Now I know how Sperwer feels.
As soon as I read the original column, before reading the Pressian Interview, I also thought “Why only Samsung?”
Apart from the reason he gives(i.e. because they can and they want to), could it not be that they have the most to lose if there is an element of truth in the joke? The jokes on others are funny as well but still not as sensitive in terms of the current events, if such things could be measured.
The UN Special Rapporteur on the promotion and protection of the right to freedom of opinion and expression happens (just by coincidence) to be in Korea on a fact-finding mission this week.
There will be a talk Saturday at Yonsei Univ., and possibly a press conference at the FCC on Monday. I left a comment here earlier today with links and detailed info but it looks like it got caught in the spam filter – hopefully someone can fish it out when there’s time. Thanks.
That’s excellent news for the Seoul high-end hospitality industry
Interesting comments here. Looks like an “owngoal” for Samsung:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100510/1820159367.shtml
Congratulations to Michael Breen for avoiding the civil case. I’ve always enjoyed his books, and continued to read his stuff in the KT since leaving Korea last year. I saw him speak at a conference once, and his keen observations and sharp wit worked as evident in front of a live audience as in print. (On a personal note, I was introduced to Mr. Breen one Friday night in a pub after I’d consumed a few too many pints of Guinness, and he was nice/patient enough to share his thoughts on Korean issues with me for a while, instead of telling me to get lost.) Anyway, hopefully episodes such as this one will have positive implications for those in the ROK – Korean and non-Korean – who value speaking, writing, or simply thinking their minds.
Should read “were as evident”, not “worked as evident”. Another chance to show my gravatar. Go Habs Go!
not unless you’re hanging around mormons.
Looks like my earlier post won’t show up.
For those interested Yonsei Univ. will host Mr. Frank La Rue the UN Special Rapporteur on the promotion and protection of the right to freedom of opinion and expression this Saturday morning. I posted details here:
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/05/after-international-media-attention.html?showComment=1273753289088#c4382792671294630231
The Yonsei venue details are here: http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcvxnnb3_119fw7h2fg2
The Special Rapporteur says he’s here to “assess the progress in enhancing the right to freedom of expression in the Republic of Korea fifteen years since my predecessor visited the country, particularly in the current context where the use of the Internet has become widespread.”
Seems like a timely visit . . .
It would be really interesting to see a home-grown Korean response to this kind of top-down chilling effect on the free press asserted by the likes of Samsung et al. I am sure that there are Koreans who oppose this action. But it is indeed true that Koreans detest when their actions are somehow viewed as being in response to foreign cajoling.
But I think each incident like Breen’s is another brick in the wall.
#91: The big question is: Is Frank La Rue related to this man?
http://sctvguide.ca/programs/images/larue_gerbils.jpg
PRESS CONFERENCE:
In addition to the Yonsei event, a press conference will also be held with the UN Special Rapporteur on Monday, May 17th at 10:30am on the 19th floor of the Korea Press Center Building, Taepyongno-1Ga, Jung-Gu, Seoul.
I don’t know if anybody posted the follow-up story from the LA Times the day after the case was dropped, so here it is now.
And here is a quote:
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