Good God, the accompanying Ad by Goggle – on my screen at least – is “Meet Korean Singles”. Inappropriate and insensitive, though no doubt beyond Marmot control.
I’d like to echo what Aidan Foster-Carter said a few days ago in The Cheonan cover-up, who noted that “the president’s Blue House would rather you not think about it, and they’ve been pretty successful.” He went on to say:
Quick to deny any North Korean role (while never quite ruling it out), Seoul’s spin-doctors set to work. First they focused on the quest to rescue anyone who might have survived – long after it was clear that they couldn’t possibly have. It was cruel to keep false hopes alive, but politically it did the trick of distracting the populace for several vital days.
1) As far as I know, we have no evidence suggesting North Korea sank the Cheonan;
2) Again, as far as I know, the government hasn’t denied North Korean involvement. It has simply warned against jumping to conclusions at a time when evidence is lacking.
#7: It was the dirty Japanese what did it. North and South will reunite as brothers to take on the short pirate menace, smite them and make them a colony, and usher in 1000 years of prosperity under a neo-Chosun dynasty [wakes up from dream].
I find it very unlikely that it was a mine that dates to the Korean War or even one that’s been there for a few months because the two halves of the Cheonan have drifted 6km from one another in just a couple of weeks.
I do understand why some would think that it might have run aground. Low tide was at 9:18pm on March 26th at Baengnyeong Island, just a couple of minutes before the ship began to sink. It was also just a few days before the full moon, so there would have been greater extremes between the tides.
But, what’s the likelihood that it ran aground and would it have caused an explosion? Are there any reefs around the island (I was under the impression that the seabed is mud on the west coast of Korea)? Was the tide low enough for the ship to hit a reef, if such a reef exists? Wouldn’t such an accident be very unlikely since the seabed and sea lanes in the area well mapped with the nearby Port of Incheon being one of the largest and busiest in the world?
This is a fitting, touching tribute to these lost sailors, but somehow I fear that in the Hankyoreh, it will be turned into a pro-North issue, as in “if only we were not deploying these boys against the DPRK …”
I want to be wrong here, but I’ve observed the Hanki for 20+ years.
What you said is true – and, I am fairly familiar with being young in the military as I was only 17 when I enrolled, but I think as we grow older we (at least I) realize just what a waste it is to die so young.
Whatever caused their untimely passing, they gave their lives for Korea.
And the freedom their families enjoy–as compared with those in the North–is the reason. It is the same for all free countries. Freedom was bought at a terrible price in blood. And continuing that freedom demands brave men and women willing to stand in harm’s way and protect the folks back home.
Let us not tread heavily on their graves; instead, let us spend our time honoring them with our actions toward each other. May we be worthy of their sacrifice.
@#3 Sperwer: So, does that mean we can’t pay tribute to these young men because it’s not “new”? You can dig all day long to find other more tragic events, but this particular piece was just to remember and honor these men.
May these young souls take comfort in knowing an angel is watching over them. May the comfort of God help their families during this difficult time.
It’s an embarrassment and a humiliation its people that the blue house doesn’t do anything about this terrorism. Does Korean government even has a strategy in confronting terrorism?
“Jimong” what kind of strategy works against people that think nothing of shooting housewives in the back? This is not a problem that can be solved easily since this involves some of the worst kind of evil on the planet.
Give LMB and his administration some time and they will craft something appropriate, even if it is not theatrically satisfying or very public — I think they can find the best way to hurt the North Korean leadership that is behind this treachery.
I also hold the Chinese responsible since they are the ones who have enabled so much evil for so long.
R. Elgin,
The “Bush” kind of strategy, massive invasion under the name of war on Terrorism, would works even NK has all kinds of WMD. Nah…it could lead to serious consequences. Next card would be the economic sanction? This one wouldn’t work effectively as we used too often. And N. Korea already confiscated assets of Hyundai in Kumgang MT. exactly like what Chinese communist state doing it without a blink of eye. N.Korea will be laughing at S. Korea if there’s another economic sanction. Then, 2MB Gov. will have only one option left, it would be ask “Sincere apology” address by KJI just like what we always ask to Japanese. Damn…
I do really hope that the Korean gov. do something to make KJI cry. That’s all.
They may have given their lives in defense of nothing. Patriotism benefits exactly who? Today’s capitalism is only beneficial to the elite uberuppercrust. Don’t be stupid, please. I believe in capitalism with a conscience, not shareholder value.
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Many were just kids…..may they all rest in peace
Good God, the accompanying Ad by Goggle – on my screen at least – is “Meet Korean Singles”. Inappropriate and insensitive, though no doubt beyond Marmot control.
Robert: Sad, but what’s new? The average US casualty in VN was 19 or 20.
Requiescant in pace.
I’d like to echo what Aidan Foster-Carter said a few days ago in The Cheonan cover-up, who noted that “the president’s Blue House would rather you not think about it, and they’ve been pretty successful.” He went on to say:
Sorry for the failed blockquote above.
Two things:
1) As far as I know, we have no evidence suggesting North Korea sank the Cheonan;
2) Again, as far as I know, the government hasn’t denied North Korean involvement. It has simply warned against jumping to conclusions at a time when evidence is lacking.
99% chance at this time that this was a torpedo attack. If it wasn’t North Korea, who was it? China?
#7: It was the dirty Japanese what did it. North and South will reunite as brothers to take on the short pirate menace, smite them and make them a colony, and usher in 1000 years of prosperity under a neo-Chosun dynasty [wakes up from dream].
#6,
I find it very unlikely that it was a mine that dates to the Korean War or even one that’s been there for a few months because the two halves of the Cheonan have drifted 6km from one another in just a couple of weeks.
I do understand why some would think that it might have run aground. Low tide was at 9:18pm on March 26th at Baengnyeong Island, just a couple of minutes before the ship began to sink. It was also just a few days before the full moon, so there would have been greater extremes between the tides.
But, what’s the likelihood that it ran aground and would it have caused an explosion? Are there any reefs around the island (I was under the impression that the seabed is mud on the west coast of Korea)? Was the tide low enough for the ship to hit a reef, if such a reef exists? Wouldn’t such an accident be very unlikely since the seabed and sea lanes in the area well mapped with the nearby Port of Incheon being one of the largest and busiest in the world?
This is a fitting, touching tribute to these lost sailors, but somehow I fear that in the Hankyoreh, it will be turned into a pro-North issue, as in “if only we were not deploying these boys against the DPRK …”
I want to be wrong here, but I’ve observed the Hanki for 20+ years.
R.I.P. ultimate-sacrifice-makers — our guardians.
Whoever cleaned up the horrible posts here, thanks.
You’re welcome.
Sperwer:
What you said is true – and, I am fairly familiar with being young in the military as I was only 17 when I enrolled, but I think as we grow older we (at least I) realize just what a waste it is to die so young.
sobering stuff.
It’s a shame. May they be properly honored and may their families find peace.
May they rest in peace.
Whatever caused their untimely passing, they gave their lives for Korea.
And the freedom their families enjoy–as compared with those in the North–is the reason. It is the same for all free countries. Freedom was bought at a terrible price in blood. And continuing that freedom demands brave men and women willing to stand in harm’s way and protect the folks back home.
Let us not tread heavily on their graves; instead, let us spend our time honoring them with our actions toward each other. May we be worthy of their sacrifice.
@#3 Sperwer: So, does that mean we can’t pay tribute to these young men because it’s not “new”? You can dig all day long to find other more tragic events, but this particular piece was just to remember and honor these men.
May these young souls take comfort in knowing an angel is watching over them. May the comfort of God help their families during this difficult time.
It’s an embarrassment and a humiliation its people that the blue house doesn’t do anything about this terrorism. Does Korean government even has a strategy in confronting terrorism?
“Jimong” what kind of strategy works against people that think nothing of shooting housewives in the back? This is not a problem that can be solved easily since this involves some of the worst kind of evil on the planet.
Give LMB and his administration some time and they will craft something appropriate, even if it is not theatrically satisfying or very public — I think they can find the best way to hurt the North Korean leadership that is behind this treachery.
I also hold the Chinese responsible since they are the ones who have enabled so much evil for so long.
R. Elgin,
The “Bush” kind of strategy, massive invasion under the name of war on Terrorism, would works even NK has all kinds of WMD. Nah…it could lead to serious consequences. Next card would be the economic sanction? This one wouldn’t work effectively as we used too often. And N. Korea already confiscated assets of Hyundai in Kumgang MT. exactly like what
Chinesecommunist state doing it without a blink of eye. N.Korea will be laughing at S. Korea if there’s another economic sanction. Then, 2MB Gov. will have only one option left, it would be ask “Sincere apology” address by KJI just like what we always ask to Japanese. Damn…I do really hope that the Korean gov. do something to make KJI cry. That’s all.
They may have given their lives in defense of nothing. Patriotism benefits exactly who? Today’s capitalism is only beneficial to the elite uberuppercrust. Don’t be stupid, please. I believe in capitalism with a conscience, not shareholder value.
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