These are just a few of the charges leveled against the three arrested in connection with the sexual assaults in Toronto, mentioned in this post.
Anyway, the Toronto Police have put out a news release (look for the March 18, 2010, 12:55pm release) — photos of the suspects and all.
On February 28, 2010, the TPS Sex Crimes Unit started a sexual assault investigation that has resulted in the arrests of three men and the issuing of Canada Wide Warrants for three other men..
It is alleged that:
− between Fall 2009 and February 2010, six men participated in gang sexual assaults against four women,
− all of these offences occurred in Toronto,
− the victims met the six accused through a Korean community church in the GTA.Between Thursday, March 11, 2010, and Tuesday, March 16, 2010, three men were arrested by the TPS Sex Crimes Unit.
The three arrested men face a total of 67 charges.
(via Newsis)
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charges include child pornography. How old were their victims?
They are probably teaching English at the Hagwon next to your apartment (after they escaped to Korea).
Thos Korean guys are going to wish they’d stayed in Korea.
If convicted, their lives are over! Here in Korea, they could pay “blood money” and take care of most of their headaches. No such luck in Canada.
Korean jails are a joke compared to the jails back home. And doing time for crimes against children? Oh, MAN. Those guys are in for some trouble.
I would literally kill myself before sentencing.
problem is – Korea is very well known as NOT assisting in handing over wanted criminals to other countries.
If the FBI (or other country such as Canada) knows the exact residence of a “wanted criminal” hiding in Korea – Korea basically does nothing to give the criminal to the other country – simply because they are “Korean”
of course its very different if the “wanted criminal” isn’t Korean – Then the criminal would be handed back immediately.
I think there is a flip side to this.
These women may want for the boys to pay money. They may not know Western law about these type of charges – that they are criminal cases.
In Korea, these charges may become civil cases as long as both parties negotiate and pay compensation. Pay compensation and save us time, the police would say.
Not in the western society. When a woman spits R-word, men are done. No chance to negotiate.
Did these women call police right away? No, of course not. They thought about it for a few days. Or, even months.
Cultural difference is the crime.
Maybe these girls, Koreans, did negotiate with the boys’ parents and asked millions. After all, these boys are from rich families.
Maybe the negotiation failed.
Obviously this so-called church is more like a commune.
http://news.joins.com/article/188/4070188.html?ctg=1211&cloc=home|list|list1
“The church had only 50-60 members and 30 of them lived in 4-room apartment complex”.
And, as I guessed, “women’s testimonies are very vague. They only say these sexual crimes took place in several places, without supplying the exact times and places”.
It’s obviously time for the Canadian media to go to town on the Korean community and expose the high numbers of low-class Koreans committing sex crimes around the country. Are we also going to see demands for CRCs for all Koreans entering Canada and even mandatory mental health and STI checks?
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They’re out on bail now, according to CTV.
“Three men accused of taking part in gang sexual assaults against four women were granted bail today in a Toronto court.
Police say the proceedings are under a publication ban.”
I’m assuming I shouldn’t link directly to this as it has their names and photos.
“I’m assuming I shouldn’t link directly to this as it has their names and photos. ”
I don’t get it. Are you worried that you could somehow be held liable? The original post (above) also has a link to their names and photos.
It’s not a direct link. And I’m not worried about me, I’m worried about Robert, as he’s had problems of this sort before.
I see. I was wondering why I had to scroll through the list of topics on the Mr. Metro (anybody remember Devon?) bulletin board.
So, there are instances where you can be held liable if there is a direct link provided on your blog? Makes sense, now that I think of it.
aaronm @7:
Yawn. Crikey mate, you’re getting predictable in your old age. Will it always come back to this for you?
I’m still waiting for you to come back to me with some responses in the other thread about this topic.
Sixty-seven counts of child rape, assault, kiddie porn and… they’re allowed to post bond. This beggars belief… but then I remembered it was Canuckistan. Hopefully they’ll be allowed plenty of time to intimidate the victims. Typical.
And Baduk thinking the girls set up the lads. Typical, too.
Hamel, I’ve no time to go digging it up, so for argument’s sake you can pretend it never happened. However, what’s with turning this on me and making nothing of the outrage that would occur if this were carried out by whities in K-land? You think the media there deserves a free pass? And I agree with above that Baduk is showing incredibly poor form.
Sixty-seven counts of child rape
One of the victims was underage, not all of them.
^ there were two complainants – a 17 year old and a 23 year old.
The under aged girl makes this into a child molestation case. I’m just curious why the Canadian judge ordered the media ban on this case and allowed them to go out on bail.
Where did you get those numbers/ages from? The Canadian news as far as I’ve seen hasn’t said the ages (only that one was underage) but has said that four women were involved.
I would like Pawi and the other apologists to explain why there has been no backlash, let alone a mention of ethnicity (CTV report mentions ONCE that the perps met their victims at a Korean church), and balance that against the disproportionate reaction to the Christopher Neil case. The body count in western countries due to low-class Korean immigrants stands at 30+ murdered and 67 counts of child rape and pornography over the last couple of years.
#17, from one of the Korean media sources. I see that the numbers are now four women/girls, says the Korea Times.
#18, predictable hostility like a broken record. In fact, I do wish western immigration system crack down hard on Koreans and Korean students and ban allowing immigration totally. They should also ban Koreans from studying in the West seeing that some of the perps are foreign exchange students. I don’t mind that at all. Korean immigration to the west has nose dived anyway, so at least that’s something a little positive.
bulgasari — thanks for not directly linking it. I doubt it’s legally actionable, but no need to take the risk.
Perhaps, but he’s not completely without grounds, either — read the JoongAng piece.
There is no such thing as a justification for rape. Period.
The character of the victim id not a mitigating factor.
If she was underage or if she said “no” then the fact is that these guys deserve everything they’re liable to receive. And even with that the girls will have difficulties with future relationships…
True. But like I said, read the JoongAng piece.
Two Korean women (yup, women) also facing charges by Toronto police for drugging, forcible confinement, and assault.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/03/21/sex-crime.html
This could be a sensational forced rape orgy in the making, or it could be a rift and a power struggle within the church gone wrong. Either way, somebodies are lying to their teeth. Apparently the only evidences revealed are the testimonials from the complainants.
To be honest, I am not surprised, considering how bad some of these protestant-style churches are around Gwanak-gu. There is one that I caught, working with this local gangster, running around sticking up illegal advertising and these are the same people that would drive away most of their old neighbors, around their old church building, by throwing dung into their yards and making loud noise at night, so as to force these people to sell their property out to them so that they could build a new, gigantic building and stick their glowing cross on top.
Committing crime for “their” brand of Jesus would be a minor feat for these kind of people.
I have scanned through this thread and the one that spawned it, but cannot find the “JoongAng piece” that Mr Koehler refers to. Would someone be a dear and post it in a comment with the words “JoongAng piece” so that I can find it and read it?
http://news.joins.com/article/188/4070188.html?ctg=1211&cloc=home
This case is turning into a bizzare case. The complainants are now 5 people, with eight being accused.
http://news.hankooki.com/lpage/society/201003/h2010032211174521950.htm
The complainant who went to the police to report the two women charged, said she was afraid for her safety after seeing the 3 men post bail. The defenders being charged are vehemently denying the charges and are saying this is a plan by the separated dissident group in the church to take over the church. Somebody’s definitely lying, I wonder which side is lying. If the judges lift the media ban on this story, this story has the potential to be a Canadian media circus.
http://www.koreatimes.net/54801
This is an ugly, ugly case of a church that has gone wrong. Something is very fishy about this church – not a normal church but a commune.
First of all, Koreans do not normally form a commune. To live as a group and share money and housing, their doctrine must be extreme.
Secondly, the pastor is very suspicious. His credentials are questionable and he did not join in with church/community group. Only thing his church is known for is athletic events.
Thirdly, Korean churches and the first generation Koreans normally do group sex or drugs. These are sick Koreans.
Things happened in this sequence.
1) Several girls named six men in the church to have raped and drugged them.
2)Some of the accused men have fled but arrested later.
3)The pastor of the church is on the side of the girls. He believe they were raped and have seen them appear drugged. And, he added the girls do not remember details because men have drugged them.
4) An wife of one of the accused men has reported that the pastor has raped her!!!! – the pastor says this is because the woman believe her husband to be innocent and the pastor is helping the girls and this is her way to get back at the pastor.
5) There were two girls, sisters, who were not in the group(1) who denied the charges the group(1) brought to the police. Then, the group(1) girls accused the sisters to have helped the accused men to rape them.
When do these accusations end?
6) The pastor said that another woman would charge him for a rape for the same reason as (4) and that did take place.
What screwed up Koreans!!!!! Put all of them into mental asylum!!!
Some Koreans, when they get into fights, have no limits. They fight to death and do not feel any guilt when they make up stories to hurt the opposing party.
They must remember the ninth commandment, “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.”
Especially “church” members.
#28, I have to agree with Baduk at this point. The stories of accusations by everybody accusing each other left right and center with every day, new accusations coming out, leads me to suggest they’re doing this to get back at each other. Or another possibility – they’re some one fucked up religious sex cult movement gone wrong. Trying to sort this all out leads me to a head ache. One thing’s for sure – they’re not right in their heads.
Lol @ baduk saying it is not normal for Koreans to form a commune. Isn’t that the basis of Korean villages circa a hundred years ago…?
And Koreans aren’t absolutely famous for wacky religious cults?!? JMS, Moonies, Hana-nim… and that’s without even thinking…
This has tragi-comedy written all over it. I hope justice is served one way or another. Canadian prisons are hell for rapists. And the Canadian justice system will come down hard on false accusations.
Six warrants, three of them un-charged? Doesn’t running from the law equal guilt in the popular opinion? If they officially become fugitives, the outcome will become predictable.
Yeah, if you want to see mug shots and candid photos…check out “Canada’s National Newspaper” (no, not the Post or the Star, the other one). They’ve closed the comments section on the website, so it sounds like its creating a bit of buzz.
Alas! The voice of sanity.
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