This kind of nonsense has to stop:
AUSTRALIAN short track referee Jim Hewish is under police protection in Vancouver.
Hewishr raised the ire of the Korean speedskating team and its fans by disqualifying its women’s 3000m relay on Thursday.
A bomb threat was made by a disgruntled fan against the Australian embassy in Seoul the next day but was later described as a hoax. However it is understood that threats have also been made against Hewish personally and his house in Sydney has been placed under guard.
(HT to ElCanguro)
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When Canada fails at the Olympics, what happens?
Introspection.
When Korea fails?
Bomb threats.
The phrase, “not quite ready for prime time” springs to mind.
And you all laughed at me. Koreans are dangerous. I would have immigration out on the streets of several Sydney suburbs. Pawi’s fascist apologist minjok bretheren should all be deported! Get rid of low-quality han scum from western countries!
You must understand their unique situation.
Knee jerk much Aaronm? Australia has enough trouble minorities at the moment, Lebanese, Indian, Sudanese, Islanders. Not too mention bogan white guys who take it upon themselves to declare martial law over small incidents that law enforcement can handle.
I think Koreans are pretty low on the radar.
Initially I thought, fucking crazy violent koreans. Then I read that the bomb hoax was not the first by the guy that threatened the OZ embassy. As for the death threats and posting his residence online. Totally fucked up, but the football team I support, Chelsea, had loons do the same thing to a swedish ref. Not excusing them, they should all be found and charged.
So who are you supporting on Wednesday evening? the socceroos or Indonesians?
Oh Boy Chelsea fans…those ridicolous big tough SKIN HAID who threw ” ( TWO AND I REPEAT TWO) bottles over our fans here last werdnesday before running to hide behind our cops when they saw the wops coming at them with iron bars and knives in their hands..these big scarey Head Hunters, really a force to be reckoned with
Lampard = filthy chav trash
socceroos, you mean the team made of Croatian peasants ?
gangpe the interista?
Still got something to teach the rest of us.
I support Chelsea not because of the skinheads, but I enjoyed the Ranieri era, especially liked Gianfranco Zola. I still maintain Ranieri is the best thing about Italian football. But the EPL no longer holds much interest for me since it was taken off free to air TV.
You don’t like English football fans do you gangpeh? Or apparently Australians. and possibly Croatians. Actually at the previous world cup there were as many Australians in the Croatian team as Croatians in the Australian team.
Lots of hate for one man.
And as you pointed out throwing of bottles by irate british fans pales in comparison to the stabbings that you get if you wonder around the wrong bars after Italian teams lose.
Man, I was going to reference that. I knew it was one bunch of dickhead Ultra’s just didn’t know which.
gangpeh has no hate. Neither do I
@ inkevitch: lol sorry man sometimes i love to make exagerated boombastic comments as a taunting joke, it is difficult to express the ironic tone over the internet and using a second language.
You are right about ranieri and Zola, they both were too much of a gentleman for the sport. Lampard on the other hand is a piece of chav trash
I have some issues with Croatians, but i try not to let them get to my head and truth to be told i’m scared to death nowadays: future wifey is staying in the Holy Land for a few days to help her mother moving…after that she’s coming back, with her Omma, who’s dying to visit Italy: i’m tempted to ask for political asylum in Samoa…the days of dirty socks around the house, internet trolling and UFc re-runs at 3 am are numbered
Yuna: i’m impressed, you have a knowledge of our stuff which is almost on par with my knowledge of Son Dam Bi biography
Damn I take myself too seriously.
Perhaps it would’ve been better if I said “Why don’t you go through a scooter off the terraces”, I decided not too because I thought it lacked imagination.
Gangpe, for a fascist turncoat you’re quick to throw aspersions around. For an Italian to ignore the thuggery and racism inherent in the game there and quvetch about English fans you’d have to be a prize fucking dope. anyhow, when you can remind me what your mob has contributed to the world other than pizza, spaghetti and the mafia (0h yeah, thanks for Ancellotti by the way), I’ll get back to you.
anyhow, when you can remind me what your mob has contributed to the world other than pizza, spaghetti and the mafia
Do i have to laugh ? We practically inventend Western civilisation and lead it out of obscurity til 4 centuries ago when Nordic countries emerged and 2000 years after the peak of our power we are still in the G-8 group of nations, i doubt the UK 1850 years from now will enjoy the same position:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/dec/08/economy-gdp-uk-italy-france
Oh for the fascist turncoat:
a) i’m not fascist
b) i know we will hear til the end of our times but you know what ? Things change, we have now the 7th largest military budget in the world, Finmeccanica is a leading weapons supplier and we have succesfully distinguished ourselves in many UN missions in places like Lebanon and Somalia, where Anglo heros ran out with their tail between their legs
And our mafa is the most powerful criminal enterprise in the world (the ‘Ndrangheta at least), not personal hygiene-challenged local dirtbags like the bikers you have overthere
Right, you peaked in the first century AD and then have been in terminal decline since then, save for a few paintings during the Renaissance, a period that owed more to Europe’s rejection of your atavistic, Papist nonsense than anything else. You’ve also been an ungovernable rabble until you managed to like each other enough in the 19th century to cobble your collection of peasant states into a federation and since then, well, you’ve been a largely ungovernable rabble since, exporting your scum and detritus (would explain your affinity with certain types here) who were lucky that by dint of having a few cultural artifacts on your shithole of a peninsula that you were not turned to glass by a couple of allied thermo-nukes. The most galling thing must be, however, is that from a geopolitics sense you are held in check by the French and the Swiss to the north, the Arabs to the south and the friggin Slovenes to the east. On a global scale you have all the dignity of a diving Francesco Totti. And as for your mafia, nothing that a couple of spotty lads, heirs to the 14K triad couldn’t handle. Last I heard they were crying like bitches as the authorities were hauling them in. To top it all off, why do people in the north of your country refer to the south as “Africa”?
When an expat does something ridiculous and stupid, what is he?
He is an isolated instance of occasional shit-stirrer.
When a Korean does?
Epitome of a race and a country.
The phrase, “having no self-reflection” springs to mind.
“The phrase, “having no self-reflection” springs to mind.”
You should remind the Korean media of that next time they pull the AES line and quote Mr. Yie verbatim. You should also remind me of that the next time an Australian commits an act of terrorism against a Korean as the result of a trivial sporting decision.
from a geopolitics sense you are held in check by the French and the Swiss to the north, the Arabs to the south and the friggin Slovenes to the east
The French can’t even hold in check their banlieu, the Swiss we just took 85 billion euros from their banks and they have been crying ever since, the Slovenes clean our toilets for 700 euros a month under the table.
‘Ndrangehta is considered by everybody the most powerful crime cartel in the world, 80% of Europe cocaine is sold by them thanks to a profitable alliance with Los Zetas which by the way refer to the Calabrians with a mix of awe and terror.
By the way aryan hero this is not 1945 anymore so you have no chance to thermo-nuclearize us or shit like that, so keep fantasizing, reality iseverytime English or Dutch or German kunckheads try to pull the viking stuff around our soccer arenas, they end up hospitalised in droves, things change you know. Your country lost a war with Vietnam for fuck sake and you army buys weapons from us.
And another thing, if our immigrants were poor detritus what were the scores of Irish and English sheepfuckers who settled overthere ? All venture capitalist billionaires ?? WE CAME BY PLANES, YOU CAME BY CHAINS
“I Really Hope Criminal Investigations Are Happening”
Don’t you know? The guilty parties are all drunk, and are having a hard life.
The phrase, “having no self-reflection” springs to mind.
- Every time a sporting event happens involving Korea, those who know anything about the country ask themselves, “Just how are the Koreans going to demonstrate what sore losers they are?” It will happen in South Africa this summer, in London in 2012 and in Sochi in 2014. If Pyongchang finally get their act together and win the bid for 2018, expect more host-nation-friendly decisions like we saw in the South Korea-Spain game in 2002. It is no longer possible to ignore South Korea as a rising power in sports, but there is a nasty undercurrent that follows them wherever they go. They see victory as racial validation of and failure as conspiracy. Tell me they don’t have a rep : the sit-down in the ring in 1988, the outpouring of hatred for Japanese-American Ohno in 2002, the hilarious anti-Switzerland moment in 2006, and bomb threats in Vancouver. Does this “say something” about the nation? Maybe not. Maybe these are isolated incidents, but I don’t think it’s harsh to say that death threats are too much.
What does this have to do with expats in Korea? I don’t think that expats in Korea really act any worse than Koreans in Korea. Drinking? Check. Whoring? Check. Fighting? Check. Drugs? Check. Criticism of foreigners in Korea hides behind moralism but is based in plain old racism.
aaronm were you insinuating that Italy has not contributed to European western civilazation? If it were not for the Italians most of Europe would still be running around pastures worshipping springs and trees living in huts. The Italians are the ones who literally paved the roads of civilization in the continent. I must have read you wrong, if so then I apologize.
The issue is simple. 48.6 million Korean people in Korea. One guy makes a bomb threat. And that’s enough to make a whole condemnation over a country? You yourself seem inclined to say no.
And read carefully what I wrote — I did not criticize expats wholesale, because unlike you, I don’t impute some individuals’ actions as an indictment against an entire group of people. You are the one passing judgment on the entire race based on one guy’s action, and you are calling me racist? Please.
aaronm knows that if he talks too much about the muzzies they’ll blow him to bits or behead him. so he has to pick an easy target to channel his repressed ethnocentric emotions.
I wonder how Italians dealt with World Cup 2002 with that game with South Korea in the second round, when they lost. The Italians were whining just like South Korea whines every international games. Was it just as bad in Italy as it is in South Korea, or worse? Were there lot of hatred against Koreans or Asians? How do Italians view Koreans? I’ve heard some Koreans that studied in Italy, that Italians think of Korea as a poor third world country full of third world people – thoughts not much different from most of Europe who have poor knowledge of Koreans who are often inter-mixed up with Chinese who seems to represent all of Asians -either negatively or positively.
It THAT what the Korean media does? Don’t think so.
Odd that this has barely made the news in Australia. Google “Jim Hewish” – The Marmot’s Hole is among the top hits at the moment.
Are the Australians trying not to offend the Koreans, or do they just not give a shit about these childish (though criminal) antics?
AaronM, quit smoking that thar wacky tobaccy… the Renaissance was just a wee bit more than a flash in the pan.
Gangpemoderniste, you almost sound like you’re proud of this, as though it somehow vindicated or proved Italian power… I’m sure that’s the wrong reading of your post, right?
“We practically inventend Western civilisation and lead it out of obscurity til 4 centuries ago”
Stange leap across the void of history that. The highly admirable Romans collapsed yonks ago, leaving little scrabbling principalties many of those ruled by the Feench and the Bourbons.
Whereas Italy the G8 member was only formed in 1861. Hardly thousands of years of unbroken history.
And you are definitely proud of this. I wouldn’t be. I doubt Italian life is, or ever has been, better for their presence. You watch too many movies or what?
1988 Olympics – Korean coaches physically assault a boxing referee after they lost a decision. Korean boxer refuses to leave the ring and stages a sit-in. Roy Jones loses his gold medal fight fixed by Korean officials.
2002 Olympics – Korean Olympic officials threaten a boycott over the Ohno decision. Death threats are made against Ohno and IOC servers are shut down by Korean netizens.
2006 World Cup – The Swiss embassy in Korea receives bomb threats after Korea loses to Switzerland. Swiss government web sites are bombarded with enraged Koreans.
2010 Olympics – Bomb threat is made against Australian embassy and personal information including pictures of his home are posted by Korean netizens about the Australian official involved after a controversial decision against Korea.
Not to mention the Paul Hamm fiasco in which Korean Olympic officials demanded Hamm give up his gold medal despite the fault lying with Korean coaches, the childish flag-planting at the WBC, Ohno dances by Korean soccer players at the WC, the bottle-throwing Korean speed-skating coach, and other incidents at smaller international sporting events like the women’s handball team sit-in protest after a loss a few years ago.
Given the number of incidents and pattern of behavior over time, it would be difficult to argue that the Korean track record in the area of sportsmanship is anything but consistently and embarrassingly poor.
“we have succesfully distinguished ourselves in many UN missions in places like Lebanon and Somalia, where Anglo heros ran out with their tail between their legs”
I’m confused Gangpe, with your choice of examples…
neither GB or Italy were in UNISOM1, Italy partook in the larger UNISOM2 as one amongst numerous participants including ROK, but again GB wasn’t involved. Again Italy took part as one of may in UNIFIL where GB also wasn’t involved.
So quite how these examples of minor participation by Italy are examples of GB running away is really unclear.
Koreans are not a race.
Why don’t you try a real war, such as the Gulf War Coalition in the early nineties, 1,200 Italians out of….
“English or Dutch or German kunckheads try to pull the viking stuff around our soccer arenas, they end up hospitalised in droves,”
Well the eyties have always been a little more brave when outnumbering the opposition 100:1, but you don’t see them putting out much off home turf.
Lost the Vietnam War, that was mostly Americans, Sout Viets and Koreans. The Australian had only a token particpation of around 8,000 and GB never took part at all!!!
Again great example, yeah the Ozzies really lost the Vietnam War!!!
The only way Italy gets on the winning side is by running away with their tails between their legs, and switching sides at the last minute.
“WE CAME BY PLANES, YOU CAME BY CHAINS”
Rubbish, they were handpicked men. Handpicked by the finest judges in England.
#22 “One guy makes a bomb threat. And that’s enough to make a whole condemnation over a country?”
Is that the same guy who posted the referee’s address on the internet? Is that the same guy who went to the referee’s home and took pictures? Is that the same guy who is claiming to have hacked the referee’s torrent account and found lots of asian pron downloads there (this one must be bullshit, right?)?
Frankly speaking, if you can’t see the pattern of behavior amongst disgruntled Korean sportfans, I don’t know how I can advise you any further…
“I’m sure that’s the wrong reading of your post, right? ”
Nope!!
This whole topic is a beat-up. Nothing to see here but a lot of angry men. Bring on the wrestling cage and let them sort it out.
*yawn*
I’m not Italian, but the downplaying of Italian influence on western civilization being posted here is perplexing. Both the Brittish Empire and current United States have modeled their socities from the success of the Romans. They have had the most influence in nation building when it comes to the west. The Italian renaissance basically revived Europe as a whole. This is a very old planet, some nations have had 5,000 years to leave a big historic global footprint of influence and failed to impress, while others have done so within hundreds of years to be remembered throughout the ages.
Western civilization’s greatest contribution to modern South Korea is:
English teachers.
How are you doing?
fine, thank you, and you?
Democracy?
I’m sure that
ifwhen the IOC awards the Winter Olympics to Pyoungchang the Koreans will reflect on their behavior in those embarrassing events of the past. These must not be repeated. The opening ceremony’s theme will be: WE DEMAND APOLOGIES. Actors will demonstrate to the world the proper way of offering apologies – sincere ones of course – to Koreans. Other actors will demonstrate the Korean way of rejecting them.An apology is owed for mispronouncing Yuna’s name. It ain’t yoon-ah.
Potable water. And concrete.
I’m not Italian, but the downplaying of Italian influence on western civilization being posted here is perplexing.
The Romans lifted most of their cultural advances from Greece. What they were good at was organizing a military empire, but there is a school of thought that says that technological and scientific advances were actually stunted during Roman rule, and flourished after its demise.
The Romans also gave us the Christian Church, a state-sponsored mimetic cult that spread like a weed and continues to attack science and learning to this day.
In fairness, the Romans managed some impressive architectural and engineering feats. But in most other measures (particularly military) Italy never regained its stature and probably never will.
aaronm, why do you have sex with a monkey? since it’s indonesia, must be orangutan, right? i know the muzzies are all for polygamy, but i didn’t know they allowed bestiality as well.
“Acropolis7″
Another one confusing Romans, with modern Italy, and who were themselves influenced by the Greeks Magna Graecia and the Etruscans.
Modern Italy, the one Gangpe refers to as if the successor of the Roman Empire, and to whom he miraculously attributes all its achievements some 1500 years before its existence , was founded in 1861 from a hodgepodge of small principalities and city states that swirled and changed over hundreds of years. All this whilst inferring somehow that “Italy” has maintained its power and presence undisturbed till the present day citing its membership of the G8, rember this
“and 2000 years after the peak of our power we are still in the G-8 group of nations”
totally ignoring the fact that Italy as a unified nation didn’t even exist for most of that 2000 thousand years.
You also, just a defensive Koreans, seem to conflate correction of false assertions with somehow denigrating same. The contribution and influence of the Romans and the Florentian inspired Renaissance is except for Aaronm unlikely to be denied by most, however to out modern Italy in the category is ludicrous.
typo “out” = “put”
“and concrete.”
I think concrete was invented by the romans, certainly used by them.
Indeed it was. And a contribution from Western Civ it is.
So they take their sports a little too seriously. Big fucking deal. Come back when there’s a pattern of people actually getting seriously beat up or something.
#45, I should have expected an attack against the Christians on the internet especially when religion was not the topic, how original, sigh. The Romans also gave us Pagan traditions including Myrthraic and Greek Hellinistic which the Chritsians take part in today stemming back to Northeast Africa with the Egyptians, solstice being the most masked apparent. As far as Christianity halting science, would an Islamic dominated Europe have been better or any other belieif system? This has nothing to do with religion. This has to do with credit where credit is do. The Italians deserve credit.
yurimaltsev finally banned.
Oh, and I’m as much a fan of Roman history as anyone, but can someone remind me how we ended up on this subject on a post about Jim Hewish?
Oh and don’t even get me started on the Etruscans. If you think that we modern day people bash the Romans for being decadent like they bashed their predecessors the Italians of Eturia, then you have another thing coming. People always like to bash those which they benefited from. Religions included.
Now back to the subject. I hope he gets investigated to for the threats if they are true.
Fascinating analysis of the Jones/Park fight in ’88 Olympics on the History Channel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJYBV9BXQNY
The “stolen victory” by Korea was seen as justified because of the American boxing teams’ “cheating” in the 1984 Olympics in LA.
“South Korean officials have been sensitive about closely contested bouts since the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles, when American fighters were beneficiaries of several favorable decisions, a couple at the expense of South Korea.
Kim Eung Youn, president of the South Korean Boxing Federation, threatened to pull his team out of the Summer Games then. He reminded his guests that they would be fighting in Seoul in four years, implying that the roles would be reversed.”
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/09/23/sports/the-seoul-olympics-boxing-anger-by-koreans-over-84-may-have-spurred-outburst.html?pagewanted=1
You’ll see this pattern over and over again. From their perspective, Koreans are just playing the game the way the world plays it. It’s a Machiavellian perspective. The world is a cheat, every country does this, everything is about favoritism and bias, why are you (non-Koreans) so surprised and upset when we want to play equally (i.e. to cheat like the rest of you)?
The insistence by non-Koreans that they should play fair and be good sportsmen is seen as being asked to be a dupe, a sucker – a weak country.
This same analysis applies to areas other than sports, obviously, and accounts for 80-90% of the back and forth on this blog.
A: Koreans did x!
B: Yeah, but non-Korean did y, which is even worse than x!
The Koreans (and Asians in general) might have the right perspective.
Machiavelli wrote his military treatise “The Art of War” (Dell’arte della guerra) in the 16th century, but he was a late comer to the cynical perspective. Sun Tzu beat him to it in the 6th century BC.
The Olympics is just another battle between nations where how you play the game isn’t important — it’s winning that counts.
There, that’s the ugly truth of it.
Not sure if it’s the same guy for the rest but yes it is the same deaf (disabled) guy who made a hoax bomb threat to blow up the Seoul Station because he was angry about the rail strike, directed at the Korean Rail Authorities.
We ended up on the subject of Roman history because it’s more interesting to talk about than emptying cities of certain types of people or steel-capped retribution on certain people’s relatives. It was a drastic measure of deflecting the hate-fuelled verbal volleys – one great civilization had to bear the brunt.
“how we ended up on this subject on a post about Jim Hewish?”
Jim who?
Back on topic. Koreans are bad losers, nobody likes their countries team losing a sporting event, but Koreans take it to a whole new level. I first arrived in Korea just before the world cup in 2002 and it was a big eye opener for me. Koreans are bad losers, they don’t handle it well at all.
Every country has its fair share of people (fanatics) who take sporting events way too seriously, but few countries exhibit the overbearing nationalism, arrogance in winning and whining in defeat as many seem to do.
In regards to sport Koreans generally have to be the least magnanimous people I’ve ever encountered. To some every Korean victory is literally seen as proof of some ‘racial’ superiority and every defeat as a slight against the Korean nation as a whole. To be frank it comes across as very childish.
Bomb threats being made over some obscure skating event is beyond belief and I hope that the perp gets jailtime.
Regarding Italy, their football team is OK. I just wish they’d stop the ‘diving’ and feigning injury nonsense they constantly get up to. The Italian style of play in football is quite pathetic.
cm: i can answer that, yes the reactions were embarassingly stupid, racist messages (in broken English) on internet forums where expressions like “dog eaters” and “rice shitters” were used abundantly, minor harassment toward Asian tourists etc. my sister-in-law lives in Zurich close to an Italian neighbourhood, she had the windshield of her car smashed cos of a Korean flag sticker on it. The guy who scored the golden goal for Korea, some Park dude, he was playing for an Italian side, he had to be transferred abroad.
The majority of the hatred though was directed against referee Byron Moreno, who somehow has become a cult figure. As most things in this nation end up in complete pharce, at some point he was invited to some trash talk show where he had the chance to do a noraebang rendition of a Julio Iglesias song that sounded something like:” I’m sorry, My Love”.
As for Korea being perceived as thirld world: yes it is for the most part true, people confuse the country with China, despite the fact every time i’m back from Seoul when i see the appalling status of my city i feel i landed in Yemen or something. The funny thing is that individual Koreans instead (or small group of tourists) due to their great personal care and appearance are confused with the Japanese, who are idealised as fabolously wealthy.
We need some Hallyu here urgently
Now…
Pine Forest: sorry you’re right, i should slow down the brash crass comments, reacting to offenses with other offenses is a bit vile. As far as the ‘Ndrangheta is concerned, well it’s a very offtopic and long subject, i hate Italian mafia movies by the way.
Arghaeri: somebody took it personally jeebus, anyway sorry you’re right too about military missions: i tend to confuse all the people and countries of Northern European descent, to me you guys all look the same, ugly. As for us being cowards streetfighting-wise, well suffice to say i don’t remember exactly scores of viking heros assaulting us all the time we travelled around Europe, i actually wondered if Europe was made of ghosts. But anyway guess what ? We both live in shithole nations, like every other European, we are ruled by incompetent idiots and we are teetering on the verge of complete bankruptcy with toilet paper currencies. We shouldn’t argue like little bitches over who has the longer dick, cos our G-8 days are numbered.
Now Jim Hewish could be invited to some KBS show to karaoke in broken Korean over 2ne1 “I don’t care” mmmh no that wouldn’t be a good idea
That’s OK we’ll just expand it again, its already gone from G5 to G8 to keep us in
Considering your partner and future place of abode, should you really be calling Korea a shithole nation
The insistence by non-Koreans that they should play fair and be good sportsmen is seen as being asked to be a dupe, a sucker – a weak country
And they are right, Western nations cheat like there’s no tomorrow when they host any international sport event and they ask everybody else to be fair, look at the medal tally of the LA 84 and Atlanta 96 Olympics, the US won something like twice the medals they usually win…maybe it was a coincidence.
Arghaeri: lol i meant our country of origin, anyway i wonder what Mr. Hewish is thinking nowadays
Well, I bet he’s not planning a trip to Seoul anytime soon
Western civilization’s greatest contribution to modern South Korea is:
Barbershop poles?
So they take their sports a little too seriously. Big fucking deal. Come back when there’s a pattern of people actually getting seriously beat up or something.
- Sorry, man. I can’t just walk away from this one. I am from Vancouver, a city just about to emerge from lockdown under a billion dollars worth of security. Other than a bunch of anarchists breaking windows, the only real threat of terrorism came from…South Koreans.
Bullcrap, Western civilisation biggest contribution to Korea was introducing them to electro-pop, which they perfected to new sublime untouchable heights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5XvYqUE8XY&feature=related
Certainly beats modern medicine, electricity or paved roads.
All trivial things, Hallyu is the new Renaissance, Seoul the new Florence
“The majority of the hatred though was directed against referee Byron Moreno, who somehow has become a cult figure. As most things in this nation end up in complete pharce, at some point he was invited to some trash talk show where he had the chance to do a noraebang rendition of a Julio Iglesias song that sounded something like:” I’m sorry, My Love”.”
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Oh my god, that’s god damn funny. At least that shows Italians have some sense of humor left. Something like that could never happen in Korea. But it sounds like Italians and Koreans have some kind of similarity in thinking. Both are so used to corruption, they expect others to be as well.
All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
Koreans are not good losers or even winners. The mob mentality bothers heck out of me too. I agree.
Speaking sore and bad losers, another set of them are from across the sea, Japan, and from West in China. They’re another group of epitomy of sore jealous losers when it comes to Korea getting better sports results then those much bigger powers.
Every time Korea wins something, it’s just matter of time before tons of videos like below about Kim Yuna (not to mention tons of videos about the 2002 World cup match of Korea-Italy which have firmly been placed as fixed game in the minds of most Chinese and Japanese) get posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ3tNlIBENo&feature=player_embedded
This whole ideal that international sports will bring good will to nations, is just pure nonsense.
“All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system, public health, and protection from uncivilized barbarians,what have the
RomansAmericans ever done for us?”Fixed that for you. And hilarious, I should add – AS you intended.
Commenters I have long-since totally ignored, FYI: Gangpehwhateverthefuckhisnameis
“This whole ideal that international sports will bring good will to nations, is just pure nonsense.”
When they said that, I don’t think they had anticipated the extent of the petulance of disgruntled asian sports fans. (A petulance that is certainly in large part a result of their nationalist/racist edumacation, I’m sure.)
cm: what i like about Korea is that it is deeply democratic about corruption, it does allow large slices of the population to take part in it, while other nations leave this privilege exclusively to their elites
Priceless and hilarious, and all that’s wrong with nationalism. Japanese couple watching TV, their reaction to Kim Yuna and Asada Mao.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ3tNlIBENo&feature=player_embedded
#78, you have some interesting viewpoints there. Are you trying to be funny, or are you really serious? You really have different viewpoints that seems out of ordinary. Do Italians share similar viewpoints as you?
Sorry, wrong link for #79. Here’s the correct one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHSBSnzJvbg&annotation_id=annotation_358080&feature=iv
So far at least Hewish has managed better than Keith Walker, a New Zealand ref in ’88.
“Lee Hong Soo, a trainer-coach, and another coach backed Walker into a corner and punched him before other referees rushed to his aid . . .
[Then] two [Korean] volunteers working at ringside for the Seoul Olympic Organizing Committeee, unofficial security officers . . . jumped into the ring and also pummeled Walker.
Plastic bottles, debris and two folding chairs were tossed into the ring, the chairs apparently tossed by officials sitting at ringside. When Walker was escorted out, another security officer hired by the Olympic organizing committee attempted to kick him. The referee left Seoul a couple of hours later for New Zealand. ”
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/09/23/sports/the-seoul-olympics-boxing-anger-by-koreans-over-84-may-have-spurred-outburst.html?pagewanted=1
Here’s the link Darth, for full appreciation….monty python rocks…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso
“and protection from uncivilized barbarians,what have the Americans ever done for us?”
just keep those redneck english teachers at home, and we wouldn’t need the US armies protection
You can’t enjoy some winning without some good old gloating laced with racial superiority of the Han race in Korea. Here’s an example what I’m talking about. This article describes the new generation of Koreans that are giving birth to new brand of confidence for the country in athleticism and tying them with national power and confidence.
http://news.joins.com/article/432/4037432.html?ctg=2002&cloc=home|list|list2
선수들의 체격은 서양 선수에게 밀리지 않는다. 체력은 국력이다. 20세 전후 남녀의 평균 키·몸무게가 동북아 3국 중 가장 앞선다. 얼굴 잘생김의 평균치도 으뜸이다. 정보기술(IT) 무장도 최고다. 외국어 실력, 글로벌 마인드는 탁월하다.
translation:
Our athletes’ physique are not behind Western athletes. Physical strength is national power. The generation of prior 20 somethings have taller height and larger weight amongst the three North East Asian countries. The average facial attractiveness is also at the top. Korea’s IT power is also the best. Foreign language skill and global mind are excellent.
Is this the kind of jingoism that foreigners see in Korea that makes them complain so much about the country?
….monty python rocks…
Fuck they do, i wonder why modern tv can’t produce anything of the same caliber
“S. Korean arrested after bomb threat . . . [A] 35-year-old man made the threat by text message . . . The suspect, identified only by his surname, Kim, told investigators he was upset after Australian referee Jim Hewish disqualified the South Korean team in the women’s 3,000-meter relay after they finished first. If convicted, he could face up to three years in prison.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/olympics/winter/2010/shorttrackspeedskating/news/story?id=4947700
cm: lol it was meant (half) seriously, let’s face it: humanity is dominated by 3 basic instincts: fighting, stealing and screwing (in rising order of importance). Succesful societies are those that manage to allow a fair amount of the 3 to the largest percentage of the population, without exageratiung and descending into an unworkable, unmanageble chaos.
From this point of view Confucian countries provide a really good model.
<blockquote All trivial things, Hallyu is the new Renaissance, Seoul the new Florence </blockquote
Ok, now I'm SURE you must be kidding. This wins Bestest Trollish Comment of the Post.
Yes, my use of the word bestest is a joke. Sheesh.
Damn those blockquotes.
PineForest,
gangpeh get’s a mulligan because he IS Italian.
When Italy lost their match to the Koreans during the 2002 WC,Korean embassy issued a warning for the tourists to stay in their hotel rooms due to threats. Many restaurants refused to serve Asians fearing they were Koreans.
In the heat of the moment many ppl do stupid and irrational acts regardless of their nationality.
Bravo beatnix.
“All trivial things, Hallyu is the new Renaissance, Seoul the new Florence”
I hope you don’t take this too personally gangpehmoderniste, but taking the above comment and your comments on this blog as a whole, I imagine I am not the only one out there who has a vague suspicion you really are a Gyopo posting incognito – in spite of all your supposed knowledge about Italy. Alright, maybe you are just a Korean who has lived in Italy. Ok – it is remotely possible you are Italian and your nationalist Korean girlfriend reads your postings here and has got you pussy-whipped. The only other explanation might be that you really believe some of what you write about Korea, and have a natural urge to post up to a dozen times per comment section mostly in Korea’s defense, which again leads me back to my first assumption.
Our athletes’ physique are not behind Western athletes.
- Mostly true, although I am curious who the Korean Shaquille O’Neal is.
Physical strength is national power.
-In uns lebt Korea! Vor uns kommt Korea! Und hinter uns liegt Korea!
The generation of prior 20 somethings have taller height and larger weight amongst the three North East Asian countries.
- Basically true.
The average facial attractiveness is also at the top.
- You have small face. Korea have creeeeepy face.
Korea’s IT power is also the best.
-No arguments here.
Foreign language skill
-Ahahahhhaaaaaaha! It hurts, stop!
and global mind are excellent.
-If global mind means saying things that will get you punched out in every country on Earth, then yes. Excellent.
We react so as to not get bullied again in the future. Ok?
@ Awarren # 94
you forgot the easiest explanation: some looser with nothing even vaguely resembling a real job and way too much time in his hands
After the 2002 World Cup, Korean students in Italy were turned away at the banks upon showing their passports. Koreans were threatened with racial taunts and gestures, some even in the company of their small children.
The Italian media then sent TV crews to the refs home in S. America and started accusing him of taking bribes. This refs home was put on television, not just pictures, but video.
Have any of you seen video clips of British football fans in Germany 2006. Did you see what they were doing to the Turks, Brasillians etc.. And the thing is they hadn’t even played them.
Of course when Koreans fans act unruly, judgement is passed upon the whole race. Tell me this, have there been any attacks upon James Hewish?
The repeating theme is “hatred of Korean success”. Whenever Korea does well in something, it is met with resentment and hatred, or denial. Those of you watching the Olympics in Canada or the U.S must have noticed the bias towards Korean athletes.
The announcers omitted all complimenting facts about Korean athletes. Another source of hostility comes from people from South-east Asia (Indonesians’, Malaysian Chinese, and Singaporeans). The thing is most Koreans, and Koreans abroad don’t have an opinion about you, we are indifferent to your existence. So stop being so bitter about our success, we’re not happy about your failures.
Well, sure — I have been living here for quite some time, thus bringing up the average.
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