Odds and Ends 24/12/09

by Robert Koehler on December 24, 2009

in Odds and Ends

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1 calendar December 24, 2009 at 2:49 pm

Now that is the way hanboks should be worn!

2 Tommy December 24, 2009 at 6:22 pm

Isn’t this strange that accusations of bribery have emerged against former Prime-Minister and previous Seoul Mayoral candidate Han Myeong-sook and now on the current Democratic Party leader Rep. Chung Sye-kyun.
For this to come out in the open just on the testimony of one person without other proof reminds how the prosecutor’s office drip fed to the media accusations about Roh Moo-hyun. In the end didn’t that style of media release blow up in the prosecutor’s office face? The next Seoul Mayoral election isn’t until June next year….are there National Assembly by-elections coming up or did Han and Chung actually do it?

3 Sperwer December 24, 2009 at 8:23 pm

Looks like the TOEFL and TOEIC will be removed from the university admission process. Good move, IMHO.

The article doesn’t answer the obvious question: is the recently introduced Korean-developed alternative to TOEIC/TOEFL, which was mandated to replace those evil foreign-developed (and foreign exchange draining) tests, also out of bounds? Or is this a trade protectionist move, not an educational one?

4 gangpehmoderniste December 25, 2009 at 2:10 am

i completely agree with the Korean government decision of creating a separate jail for foreign inmates…something we should emulate here in Italy too (yeah right, like it’s really gonna happen), i’m too tired to elaborate, not that anybody cares anyway, gotta finish working on some market research on the Korean burs market for a big client while listening to Tae Yang and then pack the shit for my child.

Merry X-mas everybody !

5 The Goat December 25, 2009 at 2:33 am

calendar,

I ask you to reconsider due to the age demographic of those most likely to wear hanbok.

Sperwer,

My first thoughts as well. Too bad the Korean probably won’t be internationally recognized and will place an additional burden on those needing the others.

Merry Christmas and all that stuff.

6 WangKon936 December 25, 2009 at 3:02 am

Hahaha… there is a baseball team from Osaka comprised of mostly zanichi in the Kansai Independent League that calls itself the Korean Turtle Ships… hahaha… isn’t that a little in bad taste? Isn’t that a like a football team in Germany calling itself the Russian T-34s or a baseball team in America calling itself the Army of Northern Virginia?

http://yakyubaka.com/2009/12/05/kishu-rangers-and-the-korea-turtle-ships-hold-tryouts/

I can understand a little bit if it was the name of the team in Korea rather than ethnic Koreans in Japan! Luckily, the Osaka zanichi have decided to change the name from Turtle Ships to that of a mythical constipated turtle.

http://yakyubaka.com/2009/12/18/name-change-korea-turtle-ships-to-korea-haechi/

7 gangpehmoderniste December 25, 2009 at 3:05 am

WangKon sport is a sublimation of war

8 WangKon936 December 25, 2009 at 3:06 am

… the government’s plan to open a special prison for foreign inmates.

Somewhere Cullen Thomas is shedding a tear…

Any ways, I’d be for it if this special prison were to provide more specialized care to foreign inmates. Per Cullen’s book, Korean prisons were rather Spartan by western standards. Another question is… if these foreigner prisions were nicer, per se, would non-Korean passport holding gyopos be included in the “foreigner” definition?

9 NetizenKim December 25, 2009 at 3:18 am

I’m thinking about investing some money in a South Korea ETF.

10 gangpehmoderniste December 25, 2009 at 3:23 am

the won is the most undervalued currency in the world, i storngly believe it will do what the yen did in the 80′s…other than that valuations seem a bit rich NK, i’d rather buy after a 20% correction

11 WangKon936 December 25, 2009 at 4:38 am

…apparently owned a Christian university in Fullerton…

I’ve passed by California Union “University” a number of times in the less, ah… affluent part of Fullerton and yeah, its storefont did look a little shabby.

I’d wager to guess that a good number of Hispanic, Taiwanese, Russian, etc. trade schools and religious schools probably have similar legality issues.

12 WangKon936 December 25, 2009 at 4:39 am

gangpehmoderniste,

The won is undervalued by about 20%. I’d say it will peak 2nd to 3rd quarter 2010.

13 gangpehmoderniste December 25, 2009 at 5:14 am

WanKon

as an ex currency trader (just spot and forward flow trading shit, nothing fancy) i can say the fair value of a currency is one of the most esoteric concepts in this world, you basically see the won going back to its pre Lehman disaster level…well sure you’re more knowledgeable than me but i suspect the won could be at the beginning of a secular bull market, not unlike the yen of the mid ’80′s ….well remember where you read it for the first time, i wouldn’t be surprised to see it trading at 600 per $ in a few years.

14 dogbertt December 25, 2009 at 5:58 am

Thanks for the link to the interview of Prof. Duncan, Robert.

15 JW December 25, 2009 at 9:22 am

Hey, Tyler Cowen thinks Korean is very good food precisely because it’s not mainstream. Eat your heart out, Wangkon.

http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2009/12/which-are-the-safest-cuisines.html

16 Brendon Carr December 25, 2009 at 9:22 am

The article doesn’t answer the obvious question: is the recently introduced Korean-developed alternative to TOEIC/TOEFL, which was mandated to replace those evil foreign-developed (and foreign exchange draining) tests, also out of bounds? Or is this a trade protectionist move, not an educational one?

Following so closely after the manufactured social panic over Educational Testing Service’s tax status, an issue which will inevitably turn out in ETS’s favor after the dust settles and the appeals are done (just like Lone Star), the smart money says this is nothing other than a trade-protectionist move. Ranking students’ English ability remains a good proxy for family economic status, and thus an essential tool for keeping the masses in their place. Testing English for university admissions will go on, just without paying anyone who knows anything about English.

17 gbnhj December 25, 2009 at 11:18 am

So long as schools persist in requiring sufficiently-high TOEIC scores for graduation, and so long as companies persist in also requiring these scores (both during the intital hiring process, and as part of an employee’s career advancement), there seems to be little that will change in how and to what degree people study English in Korea. For many, the goals they strive for – graduation from university; a job at a large corporation; career advancement – are still tied to TOEIC and similar tests. As long as Koreans continue to strive for those goals, and as long as those requirements persist, Koreans will continue to prepare for TOEIC and the like.

18 WangKon936 December 25, 2009 at 11:49 am

JW,

I’m an economist. Being mainstream equals more volume. More volume equals more money.

End of discussion… ;)

19 Sperwer December 25, 2009 at 11:51 am

I’d be for it if this special prison were to provide more specialized care to foreign inmates.

Care??? WTF, I thought prison was about punishment.

20 WangKon936 December 25, 2009 at 11:55 am

Punishment AND rehabilitation.

Something is wrong w/the system when a criminal leaves jail with a better understanding and knowledge base of of how to be a better criminal…

A man in jail produces nothing and taxes resources. A man out of jail who goes out there, gets a job and pays taxes makes everything a little cheaper and a little easier for the rest of us.

21 Sperwer December 25, 2009 at 12:07 pm

Punishment AND rehabilitation.

I can see it now: special Korean language, culture, etiquette, and cuisine classes @ Dartmoor @ Gimpo. Oh wait, that’s the new “induction center” for English teachers.

22 Darth Babaganoosh December 25, 2009 at 12:47 pm

Another question is… if these foreigner prisions were nicer, per se, would non-Korean passport holding gyopos be included in the “foreigner” definition?

I would think so.

Do something bad, you’re American, or whatever (see: Steve Yoo, 2PM’s Jaebeom)
Do something great, you’re Korean (see: Hines Ward, Michelle Wie)

If you’re in prison, you fall into the former category.

23 WangKon936 December 25, 2009 at 12:52 pm

Well, I was thinking more like a prison where the main people speak English or French, a major international language. That would probably help communicate w/the non-Korean prisoners. Maybe beds, real toilets, etc. Stuff that is more typical with U.S. and European jails.

Sperwer, why do prisoners need to know anything about Korea?

24 JW December 25, 2009 at 12:52 pm

Hey, you want the good ones in, bad ones out. It’s a natural instinct. :)

25 JW December 25, 2009 at 12:59 pm

The english component of 수능시험 is pretty thorough in my opinion — the fairly high level of english tested there surprised the heck out of me actually… I wonder why they ever thought TOEIC or TOEFL scores would be necessary on top of that.

26 Sperwer December 25, 2009 at 1:06 pm

I wonder why they ever thought TOEIC or TOEFL scores would be necessary on top of that.

credentialism

27 Sperwer December 25, 2009 at 1:09 pm

why do prisoners need to know anything about Korea?

“Rehabilitation” – I thought you were a fan. LOL

28 WangKon936 December 25, 2009 at 1:42 pm

As independent study, not as a prerequisite. But if you are gonna make public declarations on the Internet, a little independent study could be helpful.

29 Sperwer December 25, 2009 at 2:12 pm

elective independent study isn’t “rehabilitation”; it’s “self-improvement”. I’m not sure which is worse.

30 sanshinseon December 25, 2009 at 3:42 pm

Great to see that long article on Brian, who has well-deserved the honors given him tho he’s so humble about it all. Come to think of it, he’s one of my two oldest friends in Korea that are still here… But we rarely get together. Huh, i should…

31 gangpehmoderniste January 1, 2010 at 12:08 am

have a great year everybody…girlfriend just called she’ll be here in an hour, id will go to sleep early then it will be time to take the soju out :)

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