Korea, the Intelligence Sieve

by WangKon936 on October 9, 2009

I can’t pin point the sources right now, but it’s been known throughout Korea’s history to her allies that Korea is a bit of an intelligence sieve.  During the Imjin War the Chinese would not give the Koreans critical intelligence because the Japanese had the nasty habit of knowing where and when Chinese offenses and troop formations were once the Koreans were put in the loop.

Any ways, today’s main areas of conflict for developed or rapidly developing countries are in the fronts of commerce and trade.  Again, Korea has become a clearinghouse of information, and not for the right reasons.

Per the KT, according to a report submitted to the National Assembly by the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology, the authorities detected 160 cases of technology leaks to foreign firms between 2004 and 2008. The estimated damage caused by the illegal acts during the five-year period totaled 253 trillion won ($216 billion). They included technologies developed by state-funded research centers, universities and laboratories affiliated with companies.

The latest example of these costly technology leaks?  Russian car manufacturer TagAZ allegedly got all the design plans (6,000 computer files) for the GM Daewoo Lacetti.  It took $250 millon dollars and years to develop the Lacetti and at the click of a mouse button and milliseconds later, it probably costed TagAZ a pittance.

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1 mateomiguel October 9, 2009 at 12:43 pm

Wasn’t there some sort of tiff a few years ago about Japan saying that Korea wasn’t privy to as many security secrets vis-a-vis the US intelligence services as Japan was, because the US trusted their good buddy Japan more than their distant acquaintance Korea? I remember reading about that here, I think. I thought it was hilarious, because I used to do the exact same thing with my two little brothers when I was a kid – tell one a secret and not the other and watch them fight about it.

2 hardyandtiny October 9, 2009 at 1:12 pm

When are you going to post The NY Times article about single parenting? I thought for sure that would be up by now.

3 KrZ October 9, 2009 at 1:22 pm

That was an interesting article H&T. I’ve been meaning to ask what this expression from the article is exactly; “an unmarried woman seeking an excuse to give birth.” I’ve never heard that before.

4 yuna October 9, 2009 at 1:39 pm

i guess it’s more like 처녀가 애를 배도 할말은 있다고 ? *even* a virgin/unmarried woman who got pregnant has an excuse ….but there’s definitely something lost in the translation there…

5 robert neff October 9, 2009 at 1:43 pm

Somehow this thread got hijacked by single parents but…. in the past single Korean women blamed their pregnancies on ghosts….

6 hardyandtiny October 9, 2009 at 1:56 pm

I can’t believe you don’t know that one, KrZ. I use that one a lot when I’m hungover, “man, I feel like an unmarried woman seeking an excuse to give birth”.

7 hardyandtiny October 9, 2009 at 1:59 pm

Also, is the word “Google” always like this on Korea Google, or is this the birthday of Hangul or some shit?
http://www.google.co.kr

8 mateomiguel October 9, 2009 at 2:21 pm

they used korean characters to make english characters to spell an english word. A new way to get a headache!

9 sanshinseon October 9, 2009 at 2:22 pm

Yes, today’s the birthday of Han-geul. Was a nice early-October day-off national holiday until greedy corporations got it cancelled. Good of Google-Korea to notice…

10 Wedge October 9, 2009 at 2:23 pm

Robert–I’ll get this thread back on track.

Neither of the countries is very good at keeping secrets. All it takes is for a Chinese female spy to marry a JMSDF officer and voila–detailed plans for Aegis end up in Chicom hands. That’s why the U.S. has so far refused to sell the F-22 to the Japanese.

11 Sperwer October 9, 2009 at 2:36 pm

the authorities detected 160 cases of technology leaks to foreign firms between 2004 and 2008.

I’ll bet dollars to dimes that the incidence of the leakage from Korean companies to foreign ones of domestic technology is 90% less than the leakage of foreign company tech, know-how, market data and other sensitive material to Korean companies facilitated by Korean employees of foreign companies, a la the Robert Kim gambit.

12 yuna October 9, 2009 at 2:59 pm

sperwer last time you bet did you not lose money? (that policeman’s brother who owns a pickup truck business)
90 percent? over what time period? last year? last 10 years? last 30 years?
if it’s integrated over the last 50 years, i would say yes maybe but still, 90 percent? that’s too high.
& dollars to dimes? do you mean a dime to a dollar? because you’d be losing money if you won…

13 Sperwer October 9, 2009 at 3:40 pm

sperwer last time you bet did you not lose money? (that policeman’s brother who owns a pickup truck business)

That was a joke; if you lived in New York, where most of the tow truck operators seem to have names that end in vowels that’s another jokey hint) you’d have gotten it.

do you mean a dime to a dollar? because you’d be losing money if you won…

No I just wouldn’t win very much relatively to what I’m willing to risk – because no knowledge odds-maker would give you anything but backwards odds on the bet.

As for the substance, I imagine that Korean thievery of other peoples’ intellectual property is now at the retail level rather than wholesale, so to speak, i.e., it’s somewhat less egregious, which is an improvement, but still far outpaces any countervailing trend.

14 yuna October 9, 2009 at 4:17 pm

No I just wouldn’t win very much relatively

doh, yes that’s what i meant before i went stupid.

but still far outpaces any countervailing trend.

that trend is turning my friend, like it or not…day by day – hold on tight! it’s an exhilarating ride for the oldies , yes, even the fit ones…

15 hardyandtiny October 9, 2009 at 4:39 pm

I’ve been turning down offers to guest blog on this site for years.

16 WangKon936 October 10, 2009 at 1:01 am

@ #2,

I’ve petitioned a couple of guest bloggers to post that one. Although I think the NYTs article is a good one, I personally don’t like to blog about stuff where I know 90%+ of the comments will be unfair expat dumping on Korea and Korean society.

I can only tolerate about 80% unfair expat dumping… :)

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