The September issue of “Queen,” the Seoul Sinmun’s women’s magazine, reports that the image of Korean-American society in the United States is taking a hit because of an increase in the number of Korean prostitutes — entering the United States sans visa thanks to the visa waiver program — setting up shop in Migukland.
According to the story, businesses in the Korean communities of LA, San Francisco, Santa Monica, Edmond (?) and New Haven were busted by police for prostitution in July and August. In LA in early August, several score of Korean prostitutes using an Oriental medicine clinic, chiropractor, spa and specially renovated apartment were busted in police raids.
For example, one 37-year-old working girl at a spa in Edmond (?) was busted after she offered an undercover cop oral sex or vaginal sex as she massaged him. Oh, and she wasn’t wearing underwear.
In San Francisco in mid-July, about 10 Korean women were busted during a raid; most were young women in their late 20s who came to the United States without visas to engage in the, ahem, water trade.
Oh, and now there’s something called a “date line,” in which Johns call up the establishment owner to talk with registered girls in order to arrange meetings at hotels and apartments.
Particularly shocking — shocking, I tell you! — to Korean-American society was the discovery in May of a prostitution website based in LA’s Koreatown that had something like 7,000 members. The website not only had a section in which members could swap tales, but also had prostitute profiles, nude photos and even phone numbers.
(Note: the original magazine piece also notes that the website included male prostitutes, too, frequented by housewives and female professional types, for example, when their kids were at school)
According to the story, website members regularly met at a hotel to hold parties with invited working girls, with associated establishments providing girls with experience working in high-end room salons in Korea.
With the state of prostitution in the Korean-American community getting ugly stares from Americans, it’s having an effect on Korea, too. US immigration authorities have reportedly strengthened immigration screenings on Koreans (who don’t need visas to get into the United States), reentry screenings for ethnic Koreans have grown stricter, and officials have gotten more anal about visa documents.
With an estimated 60,000 Koreans illegally residing in Korea after entering the United States without a visa and overstaying, Korea’s continued participation in the visa waiver program has been put in jeopardy, too. Or so the magazine said.
Marmot’s Note: This is probably an English teacher-style hackjob on the US Korean community. But at least it’s an entertaining hackjob — English teacher pieces could probably do with less mention of drugs and more references to oral sex.






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Some would say that prostitution is a symptom of gender inequality.
“With the state of prostitution in the Korean-American community getting ugly stares from Americans…”
I call bullsh!t.
The vast majority of this is confined to the Korean-American community and is invisible to anyone outside that community.
I recently asked a friend of mine from korea on a visit here to NYC, what percentage of his male friends or acquaintances has visited a prostitute? and he said fully 100%. I hope he was exaggerating a bit, but I got a very strong feeling that he wasn’t. I asked him does he do it too — why of course, how could you not, in korean male society, you almost have to — but what about your wife? — She doesn’t want sex, doesn’t care too much for it, and we haven’t done it for at least 2 years (ie, can’t remember when it was the last time) — doesn’t that affect your marriage? — Well, no, she and I are focusing on the kid, so things are a-ok, and we get along perfectly well.
‘Edmond’ is probably Edmonds, Washington – a suburb in north Seattle.
JW – I wonder how typical that couple is in Korea. If a man’s philandering is to blame for the loss of romantic feelings- or if straying is the result of some other problem within the marriage.
My impression is that Korean couples are just now beginning to get interested in marriage counseling, and that there’s still a negative stigma associated with it. I wonder if distance due to long working hours or poor communication skills are more prevalent in Korean marriages.
I watch married couples in public and am amazed at how little communication they share with each other, and how separate they seem to be.
I am purely speculating, but I am driven to believe that if a man cannot talk sincerely and lovingly to his wife, for whatever reason, it is a small wonder she doesn’t care if he is wandering elsewhere for purely physical pleasure.
Could he possibly be taking care of his business at home with his wife with that attitude?
Got to agree with JW -
Most of my Korean friends, while in their youth, visited prostitutes. I am betting a lot of them still play on the side…..
Old Korean adage, “The pig’s family is more important than the dog’s penis”.
hardyandtiny
What the hell does that mean?!
I’m filing this one away for the next time the charge comes up that Koreans ignore their own problems and yet accuse foreigners of all kinds of wrong doings.
Well, it’s certainly laudable that they’re owning up to the issue of korean prosses in the US (although I’ll be waiting for the other shoe to fall regarding whose responsibility it is); now maybe they can start dealing with the fact that 99.99% of what is also a very big problem in korea is a purely korean problem.
Sperwer, do you read Korean?
Yes
cm, please don’t mess with the great Sperwer. He went to a well respected Ivy and got all As and stuff. What I’m wondering is, if he’s such a hotshot, just what the fuck is he doing in *korea*? Instead of using his well endowed gifts of persuasion to the service of his own frikken country? No wait, I think we figured this one out already…the guy is an inveterate crank and misanthrope and thus is unable to persuade anyone to his views.
If I’m so inconsequential
JOJW, why do you bother? LOL.Well, I *am* directing my efforts to what I believe to be the source of this small Sperwer problem, am I not? You on the other hand, I’m not quite sure what you’re doing with your childish derogatory outbursts ostensibly directed at the entire nation of koreans, but not really, as this forum seems to be a popular destination for EXPATS.
No wait…I think we figured that one out already. L. O. L.
Come back and play when you learn to read and have something to say about the issues – even if its unintelligent, as I fully expect it will be.
Yaaaaaawn.
OK, for those of you whe weren’t aware of the pervasiveness of prostitution among Koreans, now you know. For those of you who think this amounts to some kind of moral issue, put down your pseudo Christian baggage and get on with your lives.
It’s getting nasty in there… which must be expected I guess considering the subject matter.
Any ways, my thought is that you can’t legally prohibit a livelihood by fiat and expect that livelihood to just disappear. Women who get by with just one skill are going to find other ways to capitalize on that skill. Prostitution is like water. Somehow it will find the cracks.
With that said, it’s going to take a multi-faceted effort to reduce it, not just a law that tries to do it via fiat. Creating better legitimate career opportunities for young women who don’t have college degrees would be a good place to start.
It’s not as simple as that WongKon. You are right that, considering the absurd level of consumer goods inflation and the lack of equal employment opportunity for women, it is a wonder that any woman in Korea can afford the amenities she believes are necessary to be socially viable.
However, there are sparce economic opportunities for women (and men) worldwide today. Still, the women in most countries don’t engage in prostitution to the extent that occurs in Korea and certain other Asian countries.
There is obviously a strong cultural componant to the pervasiveness of prostitution among Koreans, and I believe it derives to some extent from the lack of impowerment, or downright dis-empowerment of the Korean approach to child-rearing and education accompanied by sudden economic growth that has raised expectations while disempowering people socially and economically.
As the amateur economist I sometimes fancy myself to be, I will make the bold prediction that if Korea had a more developed business service industry (i.e. insurance, HR, consulting, financial services, real estate, etc.) there would be better career opportunities for young ladies and prostitution would be a lot less popular with both the men (to patron) AND the women (as employment option).
I don’t think you know that for sure Mizar…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Taiwan
I checked my Christian baggage along, with my baptismal certificate, at the will-call baggage claim in the old NY Penn Station several decades ago and never went back. But there are other moralities on the basis of which one can regard prostitution as bad (if not necessarily “evil” in the Christian sense); and, in any event, it can be an enormous social problem in itself and a symptom of other, perhaps, more worrisome, ones.
Nevermind, misread your last comment Mizar. Scratch # 22.
I second Mizar’s #20 and, surprise, WangKon’s #21.
#23: While it’s debatable how one can be immoral by simply not being Christian, I wonder how bad prostitution truly is to society. At times, I think the view that it is ‘bad’ or immoral/evil is a backwards mindset that restricts redemption of those already on that path, and considering the societies where it is legal compared to where it is not (and note that it being illegal has not made a difference), I wonder if we can ever get a fair system to treat this matter.
Having known a DA in New Jersey talk on the subject, at the very least, I’m somewhat skeptical of Koreans being much more proliferate in prostitution (especially in regards to Asia); Koreans just seem to be less hush-hush about it.
Well, the Japanese had a belief that prostitution had a net benefit to society because the Japanese viewed sex as a way to “release” a man’s aggressions. Hence, legalized and readily available prostitution was believed to lower a man’s desire to committ violent crime.
Well, being a pragmatist, I believe you pay to play with a woman’s axe wound one way or another. Wether you pay for it outright and be done with it or pay for it with your time, your paycheck and your sanity.
If a woman want to sling it a little and make some cash, so be it. My only hope is she’s doing it safely and without having to work for some overbearing pimp ajjuma.
Care to explain why you think Korea is such a bad place that a “hotshot” would not want to live there?
Seth Gecko, I think it means it’s easier to cheat/turn a blind eye than to go through a divorce. It’s an old saying, goes way back.
the assumption that if you really are a “hotshot” you wouldn’t be living in korea is nothing more than a weak attempt to degrade a foreigner living there. i’ve heard this knee-jerk reaction to talented people in korea many times before. in addition, some of the greatest service one can do for one’s country is to operate in a foreign land, so that’s a pretty empty commentary as well.
in short, that type of attack doesn’t play well against a culture lacking inferiority issues.
Well, wait a minute. JW is on to something. There are foreign “hotshots” in Korea, but you could probably count them on one hand, and they most don’t stay for long.
It’s not that Korea is that bad of a place, but it is still a relative backwater — both professionally and in quality of life — compared to Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore, and now Shanghai. That doesn’t mean the place sucks, but if you’re at the top of your professional game, you probably are not thinking, “Hey, I need to get to Seoul.”
And of those handful of foreign hotshots, I’d bet all spent years learning Korean, have Korean wives and children, and now are too heavily invested in being “old Korea hands” to leave. Call it the golden handcuffs.
DLB
that would be edmond, oklahoma-not seattle.
http://www.koco.com/news/20270647/detail.html
Well, if you’re a liberal feminist, prostitution is A-OK b/c it’s a way for a woman to make a living.
Honestly, assuming it’s not human trafficking situation, and it’s the woman’s choice–hey, it’s not for me, but it’s their choice.
WangKon936@27,
Doesn’t it bother you that the Korean prostitution industry operates under exactly the same manner, in terms of organisation, recruitment, payment, and dispatch of prostitutes as the comfort woman system did? They even use the same terminology, including words derived from Japanese.
No surprise… Japanese influence on Korean prositution predates the comfort women system.
http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/07/15/koreas-sex-industry/
Wangkon – don’t try to make it that simple……
I am sure that Andrei will agree with me – Korea had more than its share of prostitutes prior to the 1880s. There are accounts of prostitutes sent to the soldiers in the northern part of Korea during the Joseon period and I have an account of a Japanese man who made his way out of the Fusan enclave and traveled into the countryside (I believe it was 1881) and he described Korean prostitutes. He did note that there were no large houses of ill-repute but mainly individual practices.
WK#,
I thought you had read Hamel’s journal.
http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr/holland11.htm&date=20070612035000
Blaming Japan is simplistic. Anyway, my point was that the current system of prostitution in Korea is exactly the same as the one that existed during the latter part of the Japanese administration of Korea. Not similar, but the same in all aspects.
Anyway, if you can read Korean, this might be of interest. Pay special attention the the method of payment.
http://www.pulug.com/news/news_view.html?n_idx=96&n_ctgr=6
BTW, WK#, do you read Korean? If you can’t I will stop posting Korean links.
Shak,
I am not blaming (or have I ever blamed) Japan for prostitution in Korea. That would be ludicrous. I am merely addressing your last comment about why Korean and Japanese prostitution would be similar and to introduce the possibility that the comfort woman issue may have not had a lot to do with it.
Please stop putting words in my mouth.
WK#, thanks. To be fair to myself, I found the comment to be fairly cryptic, and I believe that Robert Neff misunderstood you also.
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