Seoulites Work Second-Most Hours

by Robert Koehler on August 20, 2009

in Seoul Stories, South Korea

According to a survey by Swiss bank UBS, Seoulites work… a lot:

Employees in Asian and Middle Eastern cities are spending much longer at work, averaging 2,119 and 2,063 hours per year respectively. The treadmill is at its most demanding in Cairo, where the average employee clocks up 2,373 hours per year, followed by Seoul with 2,312 hours.

In contrast, French workers are at their jobs for much shorter times. Staff in Lyon and Paris put in, respectively, 1,582 and 1,594 hours per year.

Of course, if you live in Korea, this comes as no surprise.

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1 dda August 20, 2009 at 1:49 pm

Spending time at the office != working…

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2 Maximus2008 August 20, 2009 at 1:49 pm

And now we start again that discussion about “working” vs. “staying at the work place”…

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3 Baek du boy August 20, 2009 at 2:07 pm

Afternoon naps and snack parties count as working right?

Of the forbes 100 most powerful women, one Korean makes the list Hyun Jeong eun at #79.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/20.....ank_4.html

Notably few Asian women make the list. (then Americans make up the lions share).

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4 Arghaeri August 20, 2009 at 3:27 pm

Very questionable list anyway.

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5 t_song August 20, 2009 at 11:57 pm

Do these Korean numbers include English teachers?? If so, that must drop off the averages…

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6 Mizar5 August 21, 2009 at 1:51 am

Although this is not addressed in the article, I would have to believe that the US would be placed toward the very top of the list in terms of hours worked by employees. In addition to the extra hours career workers spend at their jobs, many other underemployed workers work at a second and even third job.

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7 Mizar5 August 21, 2009 at 2:16 am

Sure enough, I was right again. Bottom line: nobody in the industrialized world puts in more productive work hours than Americans.

An ILO (International Labor Organization) study in 1999 found that US workers worked the longest hours of all industrialized countries with Japan coming in second. And it is well established that Americans are the most productive work force.

Some references:

http://www.washingtontimes.com.....rk-harder/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W....._and_Japan

The wikipedia figures appear to be outdated as the article indicates that “South Korea was the only country in the OECD that worked Saturdays,” which, as we know, is no longer the case.

The article also notes that the US labor force “is today worked to more extreme lengths than any earlier period in United State history.” It states::

“In the United States, the working time for upper-income professionals has increased compared to 1965, while total annual working time for low-skill, low-income workers has decreased. This effect is sometimes called the ‘leisure gap’…Many professional workers put in longer hours than the forty-hour standard. In professional industries like investment banking and large law firms, a forty-hour workweek is considered inadequate and may result in job loss or failure to be promoted.”

The article does not delve into the fact that more Americans are working second jobs than any time in history.

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8 mkaplan August 21, 2009 at 5:12 am

Mizar5,

Great job dispelling some of the misinformation out there. This misinformation has been propounded by both the elite American overclass aiming to deceive people into thinking that things haven’t economically deteriorated as much as they have, and by people seeking to paint Americans as lazy.

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9 DLBarch August 21, 2009 at 5:34 am

I don’t know where to begin…to dovetail into a discussion of actual productivity, or to give anectotes of Korean co-workers staying at work late just to be seen, all the while surfing the Internet?

Yeah, let’s go with the anecdote. I was once told by a kyopo attorney in Seoul that if I needed to leave the office before 10 pm, to leave the computer and lights on and place a half-filled cup of coffee on my desk so that it would look like I had just stepped out for a minute.

The fact that this guy was a Korean version of George Costanza made the advice all the more precious!

DLB

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10 t_song August 21, 2009 at 5:44 am

@mka
Who are these classy elites you speak of? Are you in the States or Korea? Nearly everyone here looks at unemployment at 10% and also mentions “under”employment, like people with engineering degrees mowing lawns or former execs working as janitors.

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11 theotherkorean August 21, 2009 at 7:08 am

If they had a survey of the most inefficient workplaces, then Korea will for sure top the list.

Of course it won’t be something that the Korean news outlets will be bragging about.

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12 NewYorkTom August 21, 2009 at 7:21 am

DLBarch.. I used to do something very similar. When I had to bill crazy hours at my old job, I used to hang my suit jacket on my chair and leave half eaten food out. Of course, if I ditched early, I had to come in earlier than usual the next day to get rid of the evidence as well.

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13 Arghaeri August 21, 2009 at 8:25 am

which, as we know, is no longer the case.

who is “we”, they also have rules about going through red lights… ;-)

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14 Arghaeri August 21, 2009 at 8:34 am

The 6 day 44 hour week is still in place for smaller companies, and I beleive no regulation for self employed of which there are a pretty high proportion in korea. The 5 day 40 hour week applies to companies with more than 50 staff, but allows overtime. The 5 day system allows for 15 days annual leave (6 day system is/was 10 days plus 1 day monthly leave). So given say 48 weeks 2300 hours is only 48hours a week.

In all in terms of “face” time I would say the figures are an underestimate, with companies deliberately unreporting, since accurate reporting would show they are in breach of labour laws.

BTW Many koreans I’ve met work more than one job also.

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15 MrMao August 21, 2009 at 8:48 am

Do these Korean numbers include English teachers?? If so, that must drop off the averages…

Well…I don’t know what you mean…by that…maybe…you should have spent…more time…with your English teacher…learning what punctuation…means…instead of…all that time you spent…smoking, spitting and drinking instant coffee in a… pink tie…I mean working…

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