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Open Thread #107
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The Chosun Ilbo, relying on a Japanese report that itself relies in Chinese sources, reports that the market value of the North Korean won has fallen to 10% of its value from January 1st. In December one Chinese yuan could ... [Link]
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Gangnam parents are using their neighborhood's coffee shops to wait for their kids while they're in their hagwons... all day long. They also use the time to form 'teams' to choose their children's friends. This translation comes from reader Christina ... [Link]
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You should read any report about Kim Jong Il’s health with skepticism. News of Great Fishwife’s health is surely among the most closely guarded of state secrets, the unguarded discussion of which must be punishable in some very harsh ways. ... [Link]
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Required Reading for NPB fans and followers: The Japan Times is currently running Robert Whiting’s four-installment series detailing the rise and fall of Bobby Valentine’s career with the Chiba Lotte Marines. Whiting’s meticulously researched account describes a clandestine campaign to ... [Link]
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Roboseyo has a post well worth reading about the portrayal of foreigners on Korean television. If you haven't already, go read it.Mark at the Jeonju Hub sent me a link to this article titled "The ‘Foreign English Teacher’ - A ... [Link]
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I’m a few years removed from living in the States, so watching the Super Bowl ads Sunday was like a portal back into life in the U.S. before I moved here to Taiwan. I got the CBS feed via satellite, ... [Link]
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Here is something interesting that USFK Commander General Walter Sharp mentioned while addressing Korean military cadets: On strategic flexibility, GEN Sharp mentioned, “In the beginning, the USFK will be coordinating with partner countries in the region. Eventually, the whole world ... [Link]
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We’ve talked about the Han River Renaissance Project on Seoul Scene before, but in case you’ve forgotten, it’s the ambitious plan to realize the full potential of Seoul’s iconic waterway as a way to improve the quality of life for ... [Link]
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Posted by Tammy If Koreans are the kings (and queens) of Far-East Asian BBQ, then Texas reigns supreme as far as American BBQ is concerned. With heavy Spanish, Czech and German influences, Texas BBQ is bold and full of flavor. ... [Link]
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Around 6:15 on a bus heading out of Seoul today, a display flashed across the bottom of the TV screen saying that a 3.0 magnitude earthquake was detected north of Seoul today at 6:08 pm. KBS Global has the only ... [Link]
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Beautiful day, isn’t it?
It is for Chosun intern fuckface:
Number 4:
http://news.chosun.com/site/da.....hUrl=news1
Perhaps everyone already knows Michelle Kwan is coming to Seoul to join Kim Yu-Na for an ice show next month:
http://www.google.com/hostedne.....QD9977VIG0
Darth,
Don’t sink to their level, lay off the obscenities. And, most importantly, don’t give them the attention and circulation the so obviously linking to the articles.
We’ll accomplish more by filing complaints with the ombudsman (www.ombudsman.go.kr) and the National Human Rights Commission (www.humanrights.go.kr).
Okay, here we go.
Someone asked a few weeks ago if anyone remembered the second floor internet café at pimatgol. I was taken there by another teacher in early 1997, but I didn’t know what the point of such a business was. When I left Canada in the summer of ’95, a book was passed around at one of my going-away parties, and everyone wrote down their mailing address, saying “Send me a postcard from Asia!” I don’t think the book had a single email address in it.
I picked up a magazine in that café on pimatgol, maybe it was “Seoul Classified”. It had a satire “Top 10 fashions around Seoul” article. Numbers 2 ~ 10 were the basic things the young women were wearing in those days, but #1 showed a picture of a middle-aged woman dressed in mustard-colored clothes, and the “Yakult ajumma” was praised as the diva of the Seoul fashion scene. I had no idea what they were talking about; I might not even have known the word ajumma then.
Visited Cyberia a few times after that (where Buddha’s Belly is now, beside Hamilton), always with a friend who wanted to ‘check their email’. I always just got a coffee and chatted with the staff.
In 2001, I wrote this (the girl is the future Mrs Linkd):
In August of 2003, sitting in an apartment in downtown Montreal a few days before we began business school, Mrs Linkd logged onto the Dell website and bought me my first computer.
D8
In Montreal I of course became pretty adept at using the Internet as an information library. All MBA projects were group projects, and the class of 150 included 50% foreigners, many of whom had the sort of attitude toward plagiarism that Uni profs here in Korea are familiar with. Many classmates also had little sense for what constitutes a credible source of information, and this included Canadians as well as foreign students. So I became a fairly good – and fast – researcher, able to filter through a lot of pages very quickly. Many of you here in the MH are good at this, too, and that’s something that adds value to the blog’s comments.
Back in Korea from summer 2005 to early 2006 I was just working yogi-chogi, job-hunting, and looking for business ideas. I spent a lot of time researching corporate Korea, especially its finances and ownership structure. The contents of my company website came out of this. I got a few letters published by the Joongang (you can find them on my site under Letters & Essays, if you like).
My website is a bit of a mess, and this is why: In February of 2006 I was recommended to a freelance translator (Korean initials “JD”). He was translating the annual report (‘AR’) for a company called DC Chemical – I forget their Korean name at the time, now it’s OCI in both languages – and he needed an editor. He was, and still is, the best translator I have ever known, and he was bloody miserable. We worked on a few more projects that spring, and one day I took him out for a coffee and said “Let’s start a business together.” He said he was fully into it. (He also had namecards with a logo saying “JD Link”, although he hadn’t started a formal business with that name.)
Long story short, as we kept talking over the next few months, it became clear that we couldn’t be partners. He was just too negative, too pessimistic. He shot down every single idea I had, saying it wouldn’t work. JD was convinced that only size matters in Korea, and he kept trying to convince me to ask other designers, marketers and academics to let us put their names on our website so that we would look like a bigger operation. I refused. On my own, I called up Samsung Securities and got us an appointment to go pitch a new website to their IR (investor relations) team. JD showed up in frayed clothes, and he obviously hadn’t taken a shower. He had found a couple of guys who were skilled flash animators who built websites for tech companies, and brought along their portfolio, saying it was ours. Their stuff remains on my website to this day as part of JD Link’s portfolio, and I can’t even remember their names.
Finally, I started out on my own in the summer of 2006. JD and I would still send each other work, and my company would use his name, JD Link, since that name already had some value in the IR translation market in Korea. In my first 12 months, about 20% of my revenues came from him, and he handled about 10% of my outgoing translation work. After that he decided to spend every waking minute day-trading, and we’ve hardly spoken since.
“JD was convinced that only size matters in Korea, and he kept trying to convince me to ask other designers, marketers and academics to let us put their names on our website so that we would look like a bigger operation.”
I’ve found this to be a very common theme among Koreans. I wonder why their entrepreneurial spirit is so hindered by this concept.
Maybe this is a bad time. I don’t want to interrupt Link’d’s reminisces. Yet:
Alaska Gov. and former GOP VP candidate Sarah Palin has resigned, reportedly in a rambling, near-incoherent press conference, the bizarreness of which rivals that of Gov. Mark Sanford earlier in the week. Her closing remark:
” ‘In the words of General MacArthur, we are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction,’ Palin said, as she turned the podium over to the apparently shocked Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell.” — from Salon.com.
I’m sure the denizens of The Hole do not need to be told that those famous words are not from MacArthur but rather from a Marine after the Battle of Chosin Reservoir, (iirc) Chesty Puller.
CNN Brit-World just showed key excerpts from Palin’s bizarre press conference.
With apologies to The Hole’s favorite resident attorney . . . that woman is a loon.
Nominating her for VP is the most irresponsible thing the Republicans have done in the 2000’s.
And they’ve done a lot of crazy-a$$ things in the last ten years so that’s really saying something.
Re: No. 5 – The magazine you were reading was probably Login Seoul. I’m pretty sure the Seoul Classifieds did not start until 1999-ish.
Plus Login Seoul was infinitely more witty and interesting than the Seoul Classifieds (because any number over zero is undefined).
Random fact: The original publisher of Login Seoul now lives in Africa. Is doing quite successful there.
Is it too easy of an answer to say that it’s because of the chaebols and their history of government supported domination of the korean economy?
Or maybe I misunderstood you.
I use obscenities in everyday life. The way I write is no different. Sinking to their level would be vowing to stalk them and google them looking for dirt to exaggerate and exploit.
Why does the black community celebrate Michael Jackson? The man went out of his way to look anything but black. He only fucked white women. He used someone else’s sperm, a white man’s sperm, sire ‘his’ children. I find Jessie Jackson’s involvement really an annoyance if anything else.
Michael Jackson is the sickest racist known to mankind.
“Is it too easy of an answer to say that it’s because of the chaebols and their history of government supported domination of the korean economy?”
Yes, considering most of the chaebols go back only two or three generation to a founding member who started from nothing.
“Michael Jackson is the sickest racist known to mankind.”
He may have been sick, but since he embraced another race with open arms, but you are slagging him for that, and not his deviant behaviour, then it would appear the racist is you…
Apologies if this has been posted already, but the new 서녀 시대 video is truly a thing of wonder and beauty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q64GS5-XFgs
Oops! “소녀,” not “서녀.”
Above Criticism
I totally disagree with the heavy makeup on Sunny’s eyes…. everybody already knows that she joined the group cuz of her uncle so i don’t see why she would feel the need to compensate, and plus looking a little more like an average korean girl can actually be a good thing if you can believe that people relate to that better.
“He only fucked white women. ”
According to some people, he more interested in men.
the assface Linkd claimed Persians were more mature about politics than Koreans.
He certainly proves he got a Canadian education.
right about now, Linkd will be wandering out of the house, walking in the park, wantingly looking at the ajummas, and getting depressed when it seems no one is checking him out, sexually.
Arghaeri, Michael Jackson didn’t want to black. He was good at music. That should be written on his tombstone.
For those of you who like colonial architecture, Esplanade Mansions.
Robert,
You’re a great guy, but please watch this video and tell us how you can continue to support Republican causes.
If Palin becomes president, how can the US continue?
http://www.youtube.com/v/9f9YQ.....1&
Sorry the embed didn’t work. It’s her (scary, inarticulate, illogical) resignation speech.
Marketing
My first problem was how to let my target customers know that I even existed. The website had cost me KRW 6 mil + VAT. Ouch. JD had always opposed making a website, saying it was useless, but I just couldn’t see handing out business cards with a hotmail address on them, and I had put in all the effort of creating the contents (admittedly, the contents were out-of-date almost immediately. I intended to do updates; never did). I also knew that marketing is a multi-step process, and I wanted potential clients to have something to peruse after an initial contact.
In September I got a spot at one of COEX’s major exhibitions, BIOKOREA 2006, paying about KRW 2.5mil for a 3m x 3m corner booth. My intention wasn’t to wait for business to come to me: with a strong science background I thought I had a good chance to get IR business from any of the 4 or 5 major pharmaceutical companies in Korea, who, I expected, would have English-speaking IR staff at the exhibition. I prepared powerpoint presentations for each company, along with proposals with various options for their websites, brochures, ARs, etc. Then I went to their booths, found the right person, brought them back to my booth and pitched them right there.
It was all useless. Nobody, no matter how high their rank, had any authority to make decisions, especially spending decisions. They all told me I was right, that they know about these problems, that my proposals were excellent, and that they could do nothing about it.
So I hired a spunky young woman to help out with cold-calling. I paid her W100,000 a day for two weeks. The targets were basically all of Korea’s 80 largest companies. I told her what to say to each of them, and I had a tailored follow-up package to send after the call. She made follow-up calls a couple of days later. Again, it went nowhere. She was told that repeatedly there would be no budget for that until next year.
So I moved one step down the outsourcing chain. There’s an oligopoly of only about 10 design companies that make ARs for Korea’s chaebol. I had Miss Im call them directly, asking them to outsource their translation to me. Then I waited. In December I got my first call; one of those companies had a 30-page brochure for Kumho-Asiana, super-urgent, must be done in under a week. I charged them KRW 4.2mil. I recorded KRW 7mil in total revenues for 2006.
Marketing expense assessment:
Website: 6.6 million – never to this day have I gotten a single enquiry through the website.
BioKorea exhibition: 2.5 million – nothing
Miss Im: 1.2 million for two weeks of cold-calling – 2 major design company clients.
Damn? Is she high? Is she drunk? Or is this just plain old ADHD? Bitch could benefit greatly from the wonders of Ritalin (or scientology.)
Blogging
Sometime in late 2006, I can’t remember when exactly, a friend of Mrs Linkd’s was at our house for cocktails. She’s a techie, and I had recently heard about something called a ‘wiki’, so I asked her what a wiki is. She says it’s a website that can be continuously updated by users. So what’s a blog, I asked her. She says it’s a website that can be continuously updated by users. So what’s the difference between a wiki and a blog, I asked her.
Mrs Linkd then grabbed a baseball bat and smashed me across the skull with it. “Dammit, I’ve told you and told you that there are a hundred million blogs out there, about every subject in the world. All you have to do is TAKE A DAMN LOOK, you neanderthalic Luddite!”
Well, it wasn’t exactly like that, but I could see the rage in her eyes. I had asked her a few times before to explain what a blog was to me, and she said it was pointless – why didn’t I just look at one? I asked her to recommend one, and she mentioned the Marmot’s Hole and Metropolitician. I looked at Metro’s first, and I didn’t really get it. It’s hard to explain, but I was still thinking of the internet as a library, and I was not hip to UCC. Up on the top right of Metro’s site he had placed a few introductory essays, and I read a couple of those (well, most of them; they’re pretty long). This part made sense: a good writer puts a lot of thought into a persuasive essay on a controversial topic, and posts it on the web; much like a newspaper editorial. Making comments about those posts seemed as irrelevant to me as the comments that often end up after articles on newspaper sites – the point is to read the writer’s material, not to have virtual exchanges of trivial statements with people you don’t know.
I later looked very briefly at the Marmot’s Hole, and came away in complete bewilderment. It didn’t click. Around this time Mrs Linkd and I were going out to various chamber of commerce events, or hitting the British Pub on Friday evenings. Y’all might have noticed that I like to discuss business and finance – and I went to these events in the earnest hope of finding people to talk business with. I was almost always disappointed. It honestly amazed me how many businesspeople in Korea, both Korean and foreign, didn’t have a damn clue how their own industry operates. So one evening Mrs Linkd and I are back home after one of these events, getting out of our formals before heading to Phillie’s for a nightcap, and I guess I’m whining too much. She half rips my Luddite head off and says “That’s it! Get your ass onto a blog where you can talk about the things you want to talk about, or else stop complaining that you have no one to talk to.”
And so here I am.
Linkd’s blogroll (*= favorites):
aleablog.com
bloomberg.com
alephblog.com
blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/ *
calculatedriskblog.com
economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/
market-ticker.denninger.net/
nakedcapitalism.com *
iie.com
accruedint.blogspot.com
twofish.wordpress.com *
blogs.cfr.org/setser/ *
ssrn.com
baselinescenario.com
derivativedribble.wordpress.com
thisisindexed.com (non-financial)
Growth prospects
By the end of the first AR season in late spring of 2007 I had about 25mil in the bank, and was wondering what to do with it. My business model was pretty simple: design companies send me files full of Korean text, I send that to translators, then I rewrite the raw translation. My income was therefore limited by how many pages I myself could churn out in a given period of time. The work was also seasonal, obviously.
I had two options: I could find Korean investors to leverage up my 25mil, get a real office, hire one office girl, one designer and one marketer (minimum starting staff needed). Say 7-10mil per month in salaries, 3 million in rent, 15 million in one-off expenses for computers and office equipment…etc…and if I launched in October and marketed hard through the new year to actively chase bids on the most lucrative AR contracts (top 30 or 40 chaebol), then I’d burn through maybe 50 or 70mil before I knew if I got an AR contract by early January. At that point, if I got one contract, I’d probably close the office and complete the contract using outsourcers. If I got two, I’d keep the business open, and if I got three, I’d be profitable. Moreover, I’d be real competition against the design companies that I’d been working for, a member of the design firm oligopoly. Still, there’d be a limit to how much actual writing/editing I could do myself, and the business would depend very much on me as its main asset. Even as things stood now, with me as a sole proprietor, I had decided against another marketing drive at the rest of the design oligopoly, because I couldn’t take any more work during the busy season.
The second option was to get into some kind of import/export trade. This story is too dull to go into, but basically I put up the money to get another waeg going on a business importing flax seed (an Omega-3 well-bing product). We used my company as the legal entity, and the first profits would go to repay my investment, after which we’d split profits. The advantage here would be that income would be derived from product sales, not personal output, so growth would not be limited by my hours. The business, if it worked, could also be sold as-is, as it wouldn’t depend on any one person’s special skills. And, after my partner became an independent D8, I’d have a perpetual ownership stake in his company. This is the option I chose to go with.
I broke even on that project, and we stopped pretending it was a going concern by the second quarter of 2008. The AR/IR business, at least, was growing and doing fine.
One Saturday morning in March of this year, K–, a friend for the past 8 years or so, was crashed on the floor of my living room. I was cooking breakfast, Baby Linkd was puttering, and Mrs Linkd walked into the room and saw that K– had my notebook open to the Marmot’s Hole.
“Oh, who are you?” asked Mrs L.
“I’m Mr. Mao,” said K–.
“What on earth made you think I wanted to know that?” I said to Mrs L.
“Why, who are you?” asked K–.
“Linkd.”
“THAT’S YOU??”
He thought I was in France.
When I said good-bye to Oh Kyung and her family on Sunday, my last words were “Thank you for bringing me to Korea. This country changed my life.”
I don’t suppose I’ve changed Korea any. In fact, a favorite conversational line that I came up with in the past year is “I hope you’re not sticking around here because you’re waiting for Korea to change.” It’s a good line, applicable in many of the standard conversations that long-term expats have with each other here. Feel free to use it.
Naturally, whenever someone joins a larger group, it’s likely that the individual will be affected by the group much more than the group will be affected by the individual. My point in describing my previous unfamiliarity with the web and Web2.0 has been to say that this blog has been the sum total my online life. Well, I guess I did spend a couple of months on facebook when it first appeared, but that wore off pretty quickly. I have rarely visited the other Korea blogs (no offense, guys), and I’ve left fewer than 10 comments in total on the whole rest of the internet.
At some point in the past couple of years, and many of you will know exactly what I’m talking about, I crossed the line from only being HERE when I was physically in front of my computer and had the browser open to rjk.com, to actually having threads running through my head when I was nowhere near a computer. I found myself out on my motorcycle, feeling mad at someone who dissed me, or feeling smug about some clever line. Sometimes, even out for dinner with my wife and daughter, Mrs Linkd was talking to me and I realized that maybe I should have explained some business or financial matter better in a Marmot’s Hole comment. et cetera. You know what I mean. And I DO NOT intend for this to sound insidious. I in fact appreciate this place very much, and appreciated being part of this community, especially after I moved away from HBC to Guui-dong (Mrs Linkd was pregnant, and we had to cut down her commute to work), thereby greatly reducing my access to my offline friends.
And with that, we come to the good-byes.
iheartblueballs is a giant among men. ‘LOL’ is an overused term: I can’t believe there are that many people out there sitting in front of their computers laughing out loud. But blueballs had me gawking, open-mouthed staring at my screen so many times – sometimes LOLing, sometimes shaking my head in awe and admiration. “Look at him go,” I would say to the wife.
Nobody can mark territory like blueballs, and he, more than anyone else, demonstrated to me what a really strong online personality can be. More than once, before crafting a comment, I asked myself “How would blueballs handle this?” That was futile, of course, because it presupposes predictability, and something blueballs never ever lost was the ability to surprise. If you’re reading this, iheart, salut.
I’m afraid the rest will be somewhat more restrained.
gbnhj and granfalloon – you guys are true gentlemen and exemplary citizens. I think I was once a white hat here, too, but over time I leaned willingly to the dark side. All the best.
Eujin and wangkon – thanks for getting it. I found a couple people who were ready to talk numbers and get my geek on with me. I needed that.
hardyandtiny and the Goat – love what you guys do and how you do it.
globalvillage, someguy, aaronm, cmm – all swell people with good heads on their shoulders, interesting things to say, nice manners, and you obligingly don’t make me feel old.
sperwer – I want to be a little more like you some day. Or rather, on some days. Or maybe the first one. Whatever.
Yuna – you’re a star.
Mizar, KrZ – Oh hell, I don’t know.
abcdefg, sonagi, bum, netizen, colontos – y’all take care of each other now. We need all the love we can get.
Carr – we should have had lunch once. I’m sorry I didn’t make that happen – maybe I wanted to preserve that magical something, something that might not have survived an offline encounter. Anyway, you’re alright (PS – I hope you’re not waiting around for Korea to change).
All the posters, thanks for putting out. Robert, thanks for having me in your house. All of you, the pleasure has been mine.
Robert, Carr, dda…would one of you please remove my name from Open Thread #105, comment 52? So far as the internet knows, there is one person on earth with my name, and I’d like that thread not be among the search results. Muchos gracias.
He had more seoul in his little finger than you have in your entire body.
All the best, everyone.
The Marmot’s Hole is now unLinkd.
Take care Linkd. It will soon be deGoatified too.
Best of luck with future endeavors, Linkd. The Marmot’s Hole will be a little less cool without you. Stay strong, brotha.
My friend estimates that the rate of cockblocking of street pickups in Shinchon is 80%. His favorite cockblocks from random local men are “she has a boyfriend” to him, and to her, “he is homeless” and “he is unemployed”. The cockblocks are completely brainless but successfully intimidate the girls away from moving forward. Any thoughts from people that actually can and do street PU in Korea?
Thanks for sharing, Linkd.
Farewell, and fare very well, wherever you will go.
…damn, that sounds like a line from some cheesy pop song.
Re: #39
Really, Shak, take your issues somewhere else. Shinchon is fine… No more or less silly than any other drinking neighborhood anywhere else in the world. For someone who has so little connection to Korea, you could be much happier moving on and not looking back.
Shak – Btw, I was not trying to sound too hostile. Sorry if it came across that way. I am just mystified why someone like yourself, with so few Korea connections, feels compelled to spend so much time in Korea-related websites, always trying to stir up shit. Seems really tiring to me.
http://www.adversity.net/newhavenfd/default.htm
The firefighters in the suit you can read about in the link above won in the supreme court. The clincher? One of the famous ‘white firefighters’ was hispanic.
http://www.adversity.net/newhavenfd/default.htm
The firefighters in this case won in the supreme court. They have my congratulations. One of them turned out to be hispanic even though it was media-circused as the case of the white firefighters.
wow.. that first post didn’t show up for over an hour. Sorry for double posting. Happy 4th of July to the Americans here.
Why does Linkd have to say such a final and sad good bye? Doesn’t the internet make posting a ubiquitous activity? Or is it just a chapter he wants to close regardless? I myself am going on a long long trip later tonight without knowing when I will return to Korea, but I haven’t decided completely whether I would stop commenting and join the rank of the undead – the silent visitors who haunt the site – only a wisp of my former commenting self…
At any rate, goodbye, Linkd.
So long, Linkd.. I almost always found your posts to be interesting and insightful. Good luck with whatever you do next. You’re not really leaving Korea, in my opinion, because wherever you’ve been, it stays with you for the rest of your life. Good Luck.
It is just too bad that the Marmots Hole website cannot be accessed outside of Korea.
I also watched the Sarah Palin resignation speech up until she started talking about basketball. Then I realized that as a woman, she was not making the speech in from her kitchen and turned the channel…
Hmmm….Linkd is leaving the blog, and so is the Goat. Well, I guess the fun of being a Marmot Hole commentator has its limits. I wonder how long it will be before the Marmot himself thinks that running this blog is not fun anymore?
On a more brighter note, it seems that Megan Fox, asked Rain for a date but was turned down;
http://www.hkn24.com/news/arti.....dxno=28691
Of course Korea being Korea, the man himself is stating that he “likes” Megan Fox and has also “hinted on the possibility that they will meet during the premiere of his latest movie ‘Ninja Assassins.’ ”
http://www.newsen.com/news_vie.....0353161001
Some papers are even saying that he was “thrilled” about being asked out from Fox.
http://news.mk.co.kr/outside/v.....;no=367084
Kind of makes you wonder why he supposedly turned her down in the first place.
Its either her annoying voice or the fact that she does not have a penis.
I implore you that you do no such thing for Linkd.
He linked himself there to generate profit and freely advertise. It’s literally unsolicited public information.
If he’s ashamed of some of the things he said becoming public, it should cost more than beer and cheap anju.
Wavy hair yearning for some ajumma pussy in the park.
You look very Eurasian to me.
Bye Linkd.
Funny. Linkd was probably the only person here whose opinion of me actually mattered to me, just a little.
Mr. Myxlplyx, with respect, I am talking about street PU and my friend’s experiences with it (he also happens to live there and is not an English teacher). If you have anything to say about that, let’s hear it. Other stuff you cannot know about my life or experiences can be left out. Thanks.
I hear Korean men don’t like “pushy” women, and would rather be the ones doing the asking. Traditional man’s role and all that.
Pretty sure I saw Marmot walking into Frisbee (An Apple store) in Myeondong yesterday. Nice shop. When’s the IPhone coming to Korea?
(I was upstairs in a Coffee Bean next door and wasn’t able to say hello)
Myeongdong
@24
I would say I am conservative leaning, and listening to Palin cause me to desire bamboo in the fingernail instead.
I had to listen to Peter Schilling’s Völlig losgelöst to make it go away.
Oh, why is Linkd leaving? Wanting to spend the time required to read and post on other things? Haven’t had the time to read through his posts yet.
shak: Comb your hair, wear some nice clean clothes with deodorant, and talk with confidence (which I hope some kids won’t misunderstand as being a douchebag). Also try not to mention you work for some internet company. Generally, regardless of where you are, not following the above will give the impression of being homeless/jobless. I’ve found that guys who could pick up decent girls in the states had just, if not better, luck in Korea…really, it’s not that hard. To be honest, if you/he got cockblocked, it was probably done rightfully so, sorry mate.
“On a more brighter note, it seems that Megan Fox, asked Rain for a date but was turned down”
Actually, when she was here, a reporter asked her if she knows any Korean stars, she replied that she knew of Rain. When she was asked if she would like to meet him, she said she did. That’s pretty much all there is to that story.
http://www.allkpop.com/index.p.....date_rain/
There’s audio tape from Megan Fox on Australian radio.
I had read the Megan Fox/Rain item in the Enquirer, was going to post it, but you beat me to it.
The interesting thing about that to me is that Megan Fox is the only non-Korean I have ever seen who suffers from brachydactyly 4, which is a genetic deformity seen occasionally in Koreans in which the thumbs are foreshortened such that they look like stubs.
It’s not that unusual. I know several who have it.
I guess all the newspaper articles trashing English teachers pissed this guy off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDcZRFh_rlI
http://www.jdlink.co.kr/footer1.htm
ABOUT US
JD Link was founded in 2006 by Brendan Hillson and Jung Dong Lee. Their purpose in creating the company was simple: to help Korea’s leading companies attract more foreign investors. As Korea’s economy becomes increasingly globalized, it will be necessary for local companies to increase their levels of corporate disclosure to meet international standards. Our mission is to assist in the development of Korea’s economy by ensuring that the financial statements, annual reports, marketing materials, websites and investor relations materials produced by Korean companies are of the highest quality, and that they meet the needs and expectations of foreign investors.
What’s your point?
If any of the admins on this site would like to slip me wjk’s personal information, I’ll leak it here and we can see how the little $hit likes having his identity (which he, like Linkd, obviously wants to protect) trumpeted around.
juicyhumdinger, thanks for the vid
The video is some what confusing. The foreigner is set up as a victim while freely choosing to participate in ethically questionable choices. Then it appears to do an about face and takes the moral high road in wagging the finger at Korea for its hypocrisy. Maybe the videographer’s point is that everyone should look at themselves? Probably not, as most of the video looks to Korea while wagging the finger.
Curious choice in using the image of Choi Seung-Hui, the mentally ill, Korean American who massacred and shot at people of different ethnicities and nationalities at VA Tech, in the name of what this deranged dude called “justice”. I wonder if the author of the video is equating Cho Seung Hui”s motivations, which are rooted in his inability to socialize with the general public and find acceptance from both himself and others to the root of the motivations for the “loser” foreigner in Korea. And promoting the idea, that both Cho and foreigner, given their circumstances should take up arms in the name of “justice” against the “hypocrites”! I hope not.
The more obvious and face value interpretation is that the author is saying, look at your Korean-self as represented by the face of Cho Seung Hui. Although some Koreans may be prone to lose face (alright enough use of the word face) with this kind of attack, given the fact that everyone from Korean government officials to Korean church leaders found it necessary to issue a public apology on behalf of the Korean people to the people of America, it should be made perfectly clear that no matter how hard one attempts to marginalize Cho as a foreigner with essentialist arguments about his “Koreaness”, what stands out most about Cho are his American influences. Such as with Cho’s sense of brotherhood with the kids who carried out the murders at Columbine or with the act of naming himself Ax Ismael. A biblical character, who is an outcast. Mind you, Cho is not some kind of Americanphile, living in Korea. This is someone who grew up in the US from grammar school to college. Despite repeated attempts by family, church, school, and even the law, he slipped thru the cracks, walked into a store purchased guns and ammunition and killed 32 people, I think 33 including himself.
Not knowing the context of any of the Korean images, this video is at best topical to the expat blogs and kind of fun to look at. At worst, a poor choice in image selection in promoting an ethically incoherent point of view.
Some more reading and listening on Cho Seung Hui (Adam Cho)
Va. Tech Shooter Seen as ‘Collector of Injustice’
Seung-Hui Cho: Who Is This Man?
Weighing Cho’s Heritage and Identity
Thanks for the kind words, Linkd. I’m afraid that I sometimes fall short of the bar, and react too emotionally, but I try to keep a level head. My perspective is that, while I understand the challenges faced in living and working here, in a country in which I was not born, there are also great benefits for which I should be thankful. For some persons, such benefits are only financial in nature, but over time I’ve learned that Korea offers more.
I’ve been here thirten and a half years, which is about long enough to not only detect bullshit of both the Korean and non-Korean variety, but is also about long enough to learn that if your reason for living and working here is essentially only monetary, then you’ll ultimately be unhappy in Korea. I’ve done fairly well here financially, but I’ve also found non-monetary reasons that compel me and my family to stay here. Frankly, from what I see here at Marmot’s Hole, some people simply don’t seem very comfortable, and it colors their view of life. To any who may respond to that idea with the assertion that I’ve been ‘brainwashed’ from my time here, I simply think that there’s something wrong when negativity becomes someone’s modus operandi. In other words, I don’t like getting pushed by ajjummas either, but I’ve got too much going on to let it ruin my day.
Anyway, Linkd, it’s perhaps for that reason that I write here as I do, and that you think of me as being the person that you do. Take care, and good luck.
Linkd, your contributions will be missed. The Hole will be seem emptier for awhile (if that makes sense). And thank you for the kind words. Best of luck to you, Miss Linkd, and Baby Linkd. Please drop in some day and say hello.
wjk,
Bye, bye!
cmm, he volunteered that information to make money.
it became a problem as an after thought as his behavior became ‘not safe for work’.
I, on the other hand, never volunteered that information, and my thoughts here were always ‘not safe for work’.
don’t you call me a little shit.
Unless you accept me calling you a little shit.
On a side note, Michael Jackson seems to have had sleep overs only with white little boys. You still unwilling to call him one of the worst racists ever?
What? ‘Embrace the other race’?
Ladies and Gents, I will now submerge myself in a parody of Michael Jackson.
I, wjk, was unfortunately born of Korean blood, mom and dad. I became very depressed as a teenager that Japanese girls didn’t find me attractive. Using my skills of writing ‘not safe for work’ material, I amassed some wealth. Using that wealth, I had plastic surgery, from Japanese doctors, to make me look more Japanese. I couldn’t trust the Korean ones to make me look more Japanese.
I was able to marry 3 times, to 3 different Japanese women. I never had sex with them. But, I have 3 children. I used a Japanese man’s sperm to artificially inseminate my Japanese wife. I didn’t want my Korean sperm to taint the pure blood Japanese children.
One of my most memorable lines I have ever written is,
” I don’t know if I’m Jap or Gook, da-da-da, da-da-da…”
Somewhere along the line, I developed a taste for terminally ill little boys and having bedtimes with them. However, I only invited terminally ill Japanese little boys, not the yucky Korean ones to my Neverland castle.
This was the cause of my downfall. I had to pay these Japanese families a lot of money to settle out of court.
Then, one day, I died of prescription drug over dose.
I left custody of my genetically Japanese children to my Korean mother. 2nd in line is a famous Korean female singer. I left nothing to my Korean father and Korean siblings. And nothing to my Japanese wife.
Am I odd?
alexwon,
You’re welcome. I found it on Dave’s, although I hate to admit I go there these days
interesting interpretation. What I got out of it was: those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. And that the dude needs to get the hell outta Korea haha. I don’t think the videographer intended to wag the finger, but to point out that under a microscope, everyone can look less than angelic, the secrets line over the shooting of some perceived bad guys that looks like it came from the Korean War. The pictures at the beginning I recognize from just shortly after Spectrum gate, and some of the others I’ve seen before, but yeah a bit vague on specifics. Don’t know who the guy in the uniform is; any idea?
I certainly hope he didn’t intend the Cho picture in the way you suggest; I know as much as the next guy that living here can be ‘challenging’ at times, but getting all vigilante crazy is far off of my menu.
Anyway, wasn’t a waste of 5 minutes, and I liked the tune.
juicyhumdinger,
I have no idea who the guy in the uniform is. I’ll take a wild guess and say a Korean national in Japanese military garb? Maybe he did some nasty things? But I think its pretty obvious that most of the video is spent railing against Korea. Most of the images are negative or of anti heroes, including the foreigner. Then is also the strange bit with the Korean flag super imposed with the stars and stripes, the drawing of guys break dancing in front of traditional elders, and the nurture/tell the truth after all, we are all human? Whats up that? I can almost look at that video as North Korean propaganda about how Americanized the South has become without the benefits of social harmony. Or an open stream of mixed messages attempting to critique the supposed lack of self awareness in Korea.
In the universe of the video, Cho fits in as an evil image of a Korean. Or if the maker did any research, as the moral equivalent of the foreign teacher in Korea, who is not wanted.
Of course in the end, this could be a video with cool music and some interesting images done by an 8 year old kid with no real opinions what so ever. And I have wasted a good part of my day thinking about it. In that case, thanks it was fun.
OK, wjk, how about this?
You and I have both made appeals to the administrators to change the published contents of Open Threads 105 (and now 107, where you’ve put my name up again). Since you’re submitting arguments in favor of your position, I assume you think this is something that can be settled in a debate-like manner. Here’s my proposal:
Here on this thread, we each get one post to state our case. There is no restriction on the content of the post, except that you agree not to use my name anymore. These posts must be up by 11am Tuesday, Korea time (7 pm Monday in California).
Then we each get a rebuttal post, to be up by 6pm Tuesday, Korea time (2 am in California).
In between, anyone else is of course free to comment, but you and I cannot make any additional comments, whether on this thread or anywhere else. Also, after the rebuttal comments go up, you and I cannot make any more comments. Our posts can address comments made by other commenters.
Your posts must be in English only. If you want to use Korean, that’s OK, but then we do this procedure with only one post each and no rebuttal, since I don’t have the time to rebut Korean (I’m on a 5pm flight Wednesday). Please remember that if your post has more than 2 links in it, it will probably be spam-trapped, so if you want to use several links, then it might be better to split your post into sections – that’s fine, as long as it all goes up basically at once.
Marmot makes the decision and has the final say. I now declare that I have had no contact with Robert about this matter other than the two public entreaties placed on this thread and on 105, and I agree not to make any effort to contact him outside of this thread. You agree to the same. (I’m assuming Robert will agree to be arbitrator).
If Marmot decides in my favor, then both mentions of my name on this blog get deleted, and you never put it up here or anywhere else on the internet again. If Robert decides in your favor, then the two comments remain, and you accept that as sufficient victory, still agreeing not to post my name any more. This may seem too strongly binding on you, but remember that right now you enjoy the stronger position, as the status quo is in your favor and the admins, by doing nothing, would grant you a default victory.
Are you in? If so, leave a post saying you accept. If you can’t work within the deadlines I’ve proposed, then please suggest new ones.
I posted a comment at about 5:15pm KST Monday, but it had a link and it seems to have been caught in the spam trap. Can someone with privileges spring it out please? Robert? Thanks…
your real name and picture were always available with intent to ‘advertise’ FREELY on a high traffic internet blog page, since you were registered.
the foreign guys here looking for an English language investment adviser in South Korea was the target population.
Couple years back, one of your motives being here was to take advantage of a high traffic web site, with such potential biters.
It was literally as simple as
1/ click on your link
2/ click on “About Us”
abc, 123,…
I hardly did anything illegal nor did I ask the admins nor did I do any computer hack work.
I asked a question, and you replied to confirm.
You didn’t have to.
I called your name, and you said, “That’s me !”
You could have pretended to be Jung Dong.
I’ll try to show my Christian goodness, despite most of you showing me none, especially cmm.
Admins, please do whatever this guy wants be done.
It’s obviously driving him nuts.
But, make sure this guy buys you beers in person before he leaves Korea, to those who are in Korea. He should mail you soju to each admin, if meeting him is inconvenient.
“I’ll try to show my Christian goodness…”
So, that’s your get out of jail card? Even I, an atheist, knows that you can’t claim being a good Christian if you “turn on and off” when it is most convenient to you.
Correction…if you “turn it on and off” whenever you feel it’s convenient to do so.
The rest of your argument is somewhat sound, though.
You just agreed with wjk. Take a moment to ponder this.
KrZ, take a moment to ponder the website to which your name links.
So, I arrived at the office this morning only to realize that the 5:15PM KST yesterday comment that I previously referred to (#78) failed to post due to some internet hangup that occurred as I pushed the Submit button and dashed out of the office. Too bad too, because it was full of a lack of “Christian” “goodness” for wjk. And sharp wit. It seems he’s backed down from being such a shit, at least temporarily, so I won’t bother rewriting it.
Somewhat valid indeed. In 2006 I would have been happy for any customer at all.
A bit sloppier an exit than I had envisioned when I got started on this thread on Saturday morning, but that’s the internet for you. I thought that The Marmot’s Hole is now unLinkd was a pretty clever exeunt line.
Instead, I make a break with these surprising final words: Thanks, wjk.
All right…It’s official. The media has gone nuts since Michael Jackson’s death:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cul.....Ranch.html
Raffling off tickets to Michael Jackson’s memorial service does not seem right, especially when you see winners holding up their tickets and smiling for the camera. LINK
More Shoddy Reporting from Korean Media –
Here’s Naver reporting a false internet rumor as fact – the phony article claiming that Jordan Chandler confessed to lying in 1993 that Michael Jackson sexually abused him
http://news.naver.com/main/hot.....;ptype=011
When in fact the source of the rumor was proven to have been fake more than a week ago
http://blog.vpjayant.com/?p=21
Great Job Korean Media!
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