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Group Sex Club? In Gangnam?

Being a Gangbuk sort of guy, I’ve always disliked Gangnam.

If this Yonhap report (via the Kyunghyang) is anything to go by, though, it’s clearly not all bad.

Apparently, social controversy surrounds the appearance of a club in Gangnam where couples go to freely and openly engage in lewd behavior.

Shockingly, clubs guests at this club engage in group sex and swapping while others voyeuristically sit back and watch.

There are calls to crack down on the place, but police say there’s no legal basis to do so, and criminologists are split as to whether the club has violated the law or whether there’s a need to create regulations to shut it down.

According to the boys in blue, a “couple theme” club opened up in a busy street in Gangnam-gu on June 19. Only members who join after passing an online adult verification check are let in. The club homepage promotes the club as a place where “any sex-related taboo is taboo.”

Inside, simulated sex acts (read: handjobs and blowjobs), group sex and swapping are going on openly.

On the club homepage, several posts praising the club experience have been posted.

Club management said legal experts have told them that since it’s all happening behind closed doors and involve real couples and not hired professionals, there’s no legal basis to shut the place down.

Management says police can’t crack down on them for public lewdness or prostitution, and they plan to promote themselves from July. In fact, their homepage already has an advertiser.

The poor police, meanwhile, are at a loss, since as far as positive law is concerned, they have nothing to go after the club with, despite the great social stir it is causing.

A police official said it seems there’s a need to crack down on the place, considering the effect it is having on social morals, but as long as there’s no prostitution, drug dealing or illegal permits, it wouldn’t be easy applying the law if it’s real couples going there.

Criminologists are divided as to whether you could punish the club’s management or visitors.

Jo Guk (cool name), a law professor at SNU, said it’s a tough matter to call and could be quite controversial. He said if everything is consensual, it would be tough to punish them for public lewdness. You might be able to get them for the minor offense of “overexposure” (“indecent exposure”?).

All Jo pointed out was that there could be a need to create a new legal article separate from current law that would punish the business owner who provided the space.

Law professor Jeon Ji-yeon of Yonsei University, however, said that even if it’s a closed space, if 10 people can see what’s happening, it should be seen as public, and even if the other guests consented to the sexual acts, the crime of public lewdness still stands, since it’s a crime that has nothing to do with the consent of the viewer.

Killjoy.

Jeon did say, however, that it’s not legally settled whether you could punish a person for aiding and abetting public lewdness, so punishing the club owner might be difficult.

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  • SomeguyinKorea

    What’s so lewd about sex behind closed doors?

  • Me, Gook

    Where is this club?
    Finally, something original to do in Korea on a Friday night.

  • red sparrow

    This story has more holes than my socks. There are calls to crack down on the place… Calls from who?

    Meh… to hell with it.

  • Arghaeri

    How about adultery laws?

  • http://rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler
  • http://www.korealawblog.com Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog)

    The article helpfully provides the search terms if you want to look for it using Google.

    My wife was really excited to hear of a partner-swapping club, until she found out she would get me back.

  • yuna

    @ Arghaeri
    Would have thought that adultery charge can only be brought forward by the legal spouse, though filed under criminal law…Not quite the Scarlet Letter system in Korea anymore… and it says couples go to these clubs..

  • WeikuBoy

    “My wife was really excited to hear of a partner-swapping club, until she found out she would get me back.”

    Literally LOL
    Nice

  • SomeguyinKorea

    I call BS on the first set of pics. Swingers are not that good looking.

  • WeikuBoy

    “Would have thought that adultery charge can only be brought forward by the legal spouse, though filed under criminal law…Not quite the Scarlet Letter system in Korea anymore…”

    And yet not quite the 20th century, either, given that jail sentences are still a real possibility.

  • WeikuBoy

    Anyway, here’s the reason I came here:
    [drum roll]
    I bet that club sure has a lot of happy members!
    (Get it? Koreans overuse the word “member” — which can also refer to male genitalia?)
    OK, I admit it wasn’t that good.

  • R. Elgin

    Criminologists are divided as to whether you could punish the club’s management or visitors.

    Hopefully divided with an axe.
    I guess it is so frustrating not to be able to indulge one’s self in the private affairs of others, even if there is no public harm.

    These cretins should worry about real problems such as the apparently growing rate of middle-school and high-school gangs in Seoul. Yes, even foreigners are noticing because, in our neighborhood, the problem has been growing over the last five years and now, I have seen neighbors move away because of this problem with punks raising hell, drinking, smoking and leaving pornographic graffiti in certain playgrounds that are next to a number of apartment buildings. These punks have now taken to wearing matching T-shirts as a kind of uniform which I have never seen until recently. I have talked to other neighbors and women who tell me they are afraid to say anything to these kids too, afraid that the kids will beat them up or start a fire in their garage.

    I guess that sort of real problem is not as much fun as worrying about people having consensual sex and enjoying it.

  • Arghaeri

    “and it says couples go to these clubs”

    yes, but it also says, “group sex and swapping”

    as to the filing of charges thats exactly what I’m asking?
    Many criminal codes do not require a complaint, e.g UK, only that the crime is broken.
    It seems here with all the stories of drug possession etc, that a compliant is not required for the police to file charges, so accordingly I ask the question why can’t the police take action on the basis of the “adultery” laws. I’d already considered the possibility you mentioned, but am curious for a more definitive answer.

  • http://www.jdlink.co.kr Linkd

    i’m curious for more definitive photos

  • McGenghis

    Is there a word for the particular sort of bitterness that arises when one realizes that places like this exist and no invitations will ever flood one’s inbox?

  • Arghaeri

    Unfortunately, as it goes even if the invitations were flooding in, much as Brendon mentions, Mrs Arghaeri would only consider accepting the swap if she didn’t have to take me back.

  • NetizenKim

    These dens of iniquity, no doubt influenced by strains of Western contamination, is corrupting the moral fiber of society. Partner-swapping is the province of beasts. Expel these effete foreign ways and administer 50 lashes of the cane to the offenders, double for the foreigner.

  • yuna

    Swingers are not that good looking.

    Yeah, from what I’ve seen of documentaries on swapping parties in the US, I agree. I can imagine the equivalent in Korea being the soju-red faced ajossis and ajummas returning from their hiking, more like.

  • foflappy

    Does the club allow non-Korean ‘members’?

  • SomeguyinKorea

    “Yeah, from what I’ve seen of documentaries on swapping parties in the US…”

    Right, documentaries. Good one.

  • judge judy

    where’s baduk’s input-surely this is merely one form of adulterated communism.

  • Mr. Myxlplyx

    > administer 50 lashes of the cane to the offenders, double for the foreigner.

    That’s a different kind of club. Which also exists in Seoul.

  • yuna

    Right, documentaries. Good one.

    Though I only watched it because I like Louis Theroux , whose accent by the way, is *the* standard accent by my ruler. (No Toff’o’meters thrown this way please)..Note how none of the swinging couples are of the same caliber looks-wise as the presenter…..

  • Darth Babaganoosh

    These dens of iniquity, no doubt influenced by strains of Western contamination

    Oh, I don’t know. Japan has plenty of these types of places, and a variety of others besides. Why blame the West (whatever that refers to) when you can kick Japan again?

  • Dram_man

    Frankly I do not see the problem. Tacked on to about every Korean law is a line, paraphrased, “nothing in this act should be construed or perverted in such as a way so as to disrupt public order or to be contrary to the morals of society”. In such a manner I would think you could revoke the various licenses and commercial registrations of the club.

  • Queens Guy

    Robert, the picture in the below link on your post was taken at a night club in Kangnam, not at the so-called sex club. The article below is about the sex club, but the picture was used in the article to show what’s going on at Kangnam night clubs. This picture has been used in some articles on those night clubs. The uploader of the below article doesn’t seem to be able to tell what sex clubs and night clubs are.

    http://www.newshankuk.com/news…..2560387646

  • seoulfood123

    LMAO.

    Hypocrisy Alert #241

    Just over a week ago, all the little netizens were in an uproar about a few English teachers in Hongdae going on a couple dates with Korean women (OMG!! Those perverted foreign bastards sullying our pure, innocent Korean women!!). The hypocrisy is flabbergasting and fascinating, if not hilarious and entertaining.

  • Mizar5

    What’s the basic difference between this and the usual Talanjujum (Room Salon) in which sex takes place for tips or the booking clubs where married people go to hook up for one-night stands?

  • cm

    Hypocrisy Alert #241, where’s the hypocrisy? Both stories about nothing, printed with sensationalist headlines, both lead to public crying.

  • Koreansentry

    Mizar5 July 1, 2009 at 12:01 am

    What’s the basic difference between this and the usual Talanjujum (Room Salon) in which sex takes place for tips or the booking clubs where married people go to hook up for one-night stands?
    ================
    They have license.

    Anyway, I hope local police crack them down. And check each members. That would shut these swingers off. I hate swingers!

  • seoulfood123

    The hypocrisy lies in the fact that the degree of sheer, utter debauchery is so different, but the degree of offense and emotional energy is basically the same.

    1. You have this Kangnam club where Mr. Lee is relaxing after work watching two people (married to different people) bang eachother over a bottle of Absolut and cranberry juice.

    2. The English teachers are just hanging out having some drinks and dancing a little.

    **The nature of response is basically the same.**

    The hypocritical message is clear: Korean men have the right to degrade women to this degree; foreign men have no right to even approach Korean women.

    So. Let’s venture to think for a moment if the men in those photographs were white foreigners………HMM………. we would be preparing for candlelight demonstrations down at Kwangwhamoon.

    Gotta love it.

    @mizar: well noted.

  • http://hanbitesdog.wordpress.com Han bites dog

    @Seoulfood
    Korean men have the right to degrade women to this degree;

    This is a bit of an assumption. Are women so incapable of wanting to have sex in a sex club? Or even – gasp – initiate it.
    In any case, neither action was approved of…
    (although I think both should be)

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  • numberoneoppa

    Whoa whoa whoa, what the hell? Just found a link to this page from some other corner of the internet and I’m all like :O

  • http://jikding.wordpress.com/ 조엘

    What could a recently heartbroken young 20-something male have possibly been searching for on the Internet that would led him to a post with this title?

  • numberoneoppa

    ROFL. Oh, gosh. You caught me. Not sure exactly what search terms I used, but they probably didn’t have the most wholesome intention behind them. :P

  • Granfalloon

    Wow.

  • hamel

    When’s Charles Tilly getting here?

  • milton

    When’s Charles Tilly getting here?

    Probably won’t be for a while. I heard Kia hired him to do their advertisements.

  • http://jikding.wordpress.com/ 조엘

    Zing~

  • http://rjkoehler.com Robert Koehler

    Now, Tilly did post a link recently regarding fun of the multiple provider kind going on in Gangnam:

    http://www.ilyoseoul.co.kr/show.php?idx=55834&table=news&table_name=news&news_sec=%&daum