Think again — police have launched a two-month crackdown on prostitution, reports the Segye Ilbo.
Police will be watching red-light districts, large entertainment establishments, massage parlors, so-called hyugetel and other naughty places as well as Internet websites where deals are going down.
Police are really serious this time — they plan to increase punishments against building owners and prevent businesses from restarting after they’ve been busted.
The crackdown will continue until May 31.
Like pothead foreign English teachers
, prostitution has become a serious social issue recently due to incidents like the Jang Ja-yeon suicide and the Cheong Wa Dae officials caught with their pants down.







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Reminds me of this Yangpa classic:
http://theyangpa.wordpress.com/2006/10/03/police-chief-told-to-stop-winking-while-discussing-anti-prostitution-law/
Sex trade accounts for 1.6% of GDP or 14 trillion won ($ 13 billion) according to The Korean Women`s Development Institute 2008-09-20.
http://www2.kwdi.re.kr/kw_board/skin/news/view.jsp?bp_board=news&bp_bbsNo=181
Considering both the substantial cultural barriers Koreans have, ehm, erected, in having pre, extra or post-marital sexual relationships, and the myriad ways in which customers and clients in Korea seem to have developed to foster exchanges of bodily fluids and money, I bet this one isn’t going to be fixed anytime soon.
I blame Japan!
http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/07/15/koreas-sex-industry/
Aha! Got you now. Last year I registered the English phrase “I blame Japan” as a trademark in North America, Europe, Korea and the Seychelles. From now on you must indicate the trademark by use of the ™ character, coupled with a payment of W500,000 for each use.
Why so expensive? I blame Japan™.
Damn!.. do you accept check?
I miss that version of the yangpa. The other two are simply unreadable.
Korea has one way to generate wealth: sell cars, ships, steel and electronics to the rest of the world (with honorable mention to heavy engineering projects in the Middle East). Every won in everyone’s pocket can be traced back to those industries.
Taxes from those industries fund the government’s budget. Trickle-down from those export earnings provides the cash flows for the entire domestic economy. There is no value added in the service industry, finance, tourism, small industry, high tech, venture capital, professional services or arts & culture.
For Koreans overall to enjoy their standard of life, therefore, it is essential that systems be in place to distribute wealth away from the big exporters. This Korea has done pretty well. And I will note, it didn’t happen by imposing high taxes on the exporters and then spreading it around.
Koreans have a culture that supports redistribution. They do a lot of their consumer spending at neighborhood shops within walking distance from their homes, rather than always driving to the Big Box stores. They eat out a lot. They throw expensive parties. They buy a lot of gifts for each other. They love new clothes. They don’t get much in the way of making a living as a street merchant. They throw away anything more than three years old. They go drinking a lot. They overspend on holidays. They blow a ton of money on education for their kids right from age 3. They are always ready to jump on the latest fad.
They also have a lot of ways to pay for sex. It may be unsavory to the sensibilities of people who get up early on Sunday mornings, but as a culture, I believe Koreans understand that their room salons, an-ma, sports massages and barber shops are an effective way of re-distributing salaryman paychecks and the marketing budgets of large corporations to the benefit of parts of society that otherwise would have no way of obtaining a remotely similar level of income.
Forgot one!
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Linkd, props for # 7. Couldn’t agree more. Too much wealth creation in Korea is to the Chaebols and too much of it is in manufacturing. Too many higher paying jobs are centered around male dominated industries. A well developed services sector would create more higher paying jobs for women otherwise they have limited options available, ahem…less legitimate “service” jobs.
Privatizing some sectors could help as well as asking some conglomerates to let got of some units to stand and grow on their own. A company that makes most of it’s money through consumer electronics has little business owning hotels, food service companies, cosmetics manufacturers, etc. They should just shed them and focus on what they do well.
Give ladies real alternatives and they won’t go into prostitution. Well, at least not full time any ways.
but does it hold for the demand side of the chain? i.e. give men real alternatives and they won’t go to prostitutes? answer:no, *some* men will always go even if they have many real alternatives, and where there is demand….
I do hate to derail a perfectly good prostitution thread, so I’ll be brief: I believe you are entirely correct about breaking up the chaebol and how it would help diversify the economy. But remember, in Korea it’s not about earnings, it’s about assets (it’s not how much you make, it’s how big you are).
If you took a chaebol that now has a market value of $30 billion and split it up, you wouldn’t have a bunch of companies collectively worth $30 billion. The process of splitting them up and giving each their own books would reveal that the $30 billion is an inflated value based on cross-ownership, and in fact, the whole thing was only really worth, say, $5 to 10 billion. I think it’s a hit worth taking, cuz you only need to take it once. But that’s not the point of view of the relatively small number of people who would be taking that hit.
I don’t want to hijack a good whore thread either but the best way to make Korean companies worry about profit margins is to do the same thing that U.S. companies do… take on leverage that’s not government backed. Then you have to make consistent profits to support the leverage otherwise there are dire consequences.
However, Korea does not have a developed private equity industry, hence there is very little domestic leveraged-buyout acquisition of non-performing, non-core assets of bigger companies.
Any ways, I sorta thought about this analogy. Plop a Canadian woman in her mid 20′s into Korea and then plop an Uzbeki woman same age into Korea. What’s the Canadian woman’s choice? She’s got one marketable skill that’s useful in Korea… native English speaker, she can always teach English to make a decent living wage. The Uzbeki lady? What are her choices? How does she make a living in Korea?
But now you’re not being Korean. Confucian culture isn’t just a one-way street of showing deference to your superiors. Superiors also have responsibilities to their direct underlings, as well as to the whole society. I’m also a strong believer in ‘the discipline of debt’, but your suggestions usurps what is seen here as the rightful role of the elite class to manage things on behalf of society (speaking here specifically about the Korean government’s role in providing unsupervised financing to the chaebol).
I might add that the meltdown in the Anglo-American financial system in the past year hasn’t done a whole lot to discredit the NE Asian way of organizing an economy.
(Whore thread officially hopelessly derailed)
I blame the IMF.
By the way, gotta love the Korean Cupid ad that appears directly under the “Thinking About Some Paid Lovin’ ” headline.
Oops, it was a Thai Beauty not Korean Cupid; and “Thinking About Some Paid Lovin’?” is a question, not a statement. Probably says more about me than I would have cared to reveal.
On the bright side, whore thread back on track!
So are those guys and ajummas who hand me cards for “special prostate massage by college girls” on my walk home everyday going to disappear? From what I gather from the guy who was pestering me last week, the room salon which is clearly doing a roaring trade next to my apt has recently renovated and expanded. This all happened during the last crackdown. The only noticeable difference from the outside was the place’s backdoor was secured (I’m assuming to prevent a rear-entry (헤헤헤) invasion by the cops). The day that place closes shop is the day I’ll believe this crackdown has teeth.
Interesting enough, Linkd’s theory of trickle-down wealth distribution is clearly at play with this room salon. It is so large and has such a presence on it’s street. There is a constant stream of it’s employees coming and going to the nearby restaurants and convenience stores. One restaurant in particular I think would be out of business if this room salon shut down.
but low supply, the price goes up. Eliminating gender discrimination in the workplace won’t make prostitution disappear completely, but it will become too expensive as a regular leisure activity for middle-class men.
A cynic would say the crackdown is a means to convince the local businesses to increase their contributions to the ‘police retirement fund’.
agreed. i actually was thinking that as i was writing. but then i thought it would drive them to look for it elsewhere, like sex tourism. and somehow i doubt that there is anywhere (apart from countries which enforce it by religion) that the middle-class men cannot go to a prostitute of some sort, because they cannot afford it, or am i wrong?
Bwahhh-ha-ha!!!
Did you seriously just post a question on a blog populated by about 200 men and 4 chicks, asking if we had found anywhere we couldn’t score an affordable hooker?
I think you also asked a few days ago whether our wives and girlfriends read this blog. The answer is yes.
the answer to the second question is yes which leads to the first being yes also then?
what i meant was that i have yet to see (even in more developed countries) where only high class call girls exist and your average guy cannot pick up someone. e.g. schoolkids in japan etc. they do it because there is demand, not because they cannot afford to do anything else.
Experiment…
Russian… Russian… Russian… Russia… chick… lady… girl… girls… Russia… Russian… Russia girls.
Did the find Russian girls ad pop up yet???
# 21,
I think it’s more cultural than anything else. Also, sometimes supply creates its own demand.
Question. Is it just me but do countries with the most developed sex for money industries tend to be Buddist (or Buddist background) countries (Thailand and Japan)?
*Buddhist* not Buddist.
Well, Every man pays for it in one way or another. You rent it outright from a whore or you end up paying for it with your life with a wife.
Did the find Russian girls ad pop up yet???
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# 17,
Yep. Greater gender equality would open doors for women in Korea to have better jobs than just secretary, receptionist, “inside” sales staff(essentially an excuse to keep women on payroll so they can be defacto room bang girls for drunk ajossis to oggle during company parties). Greater pay too so some women opting to be prostitutes can aim for job that pays the bills and keeps their dignity intact.
However, it won’t eliminate prostitution, but it will help.
My guess is yuna is underestimating the importance of affordability. Dunno about others but knowing myself I think getting serviced by hookers would turn into something like a cigarette addiction, and we know that people by and large do respond when the government adds a tax with the explicit intention of decreasing addictive habit.
Sorry yuna, but I have inside knowledge that no women can have. It’s sorta like some of the losers here who constantly want to talk shit — reasonable sounding shit– about korean society when they can’t even read korean at kindergarten level.
Re: Bhuddism and the sex industry. I don’t think it has much to do with religion. The Philippines, anyone? China? (probably the largest sex industry in the world). And Korea is not exactly far behind either…
Well… how about illicit sex per capita? I’m sure in terms of sheer absolute numbers China has more prostitutes than Korea, Philippines and Thailand have people.
Does anyone publish an Asian sex worker per capita index???
Oh and I disagree with you dda. Thailand and Japan are unique in terms of ilicit pay-for-sex. Does anyone in the world have the, errrr… quality of porn as the Japanese? Their is a special quality to Japanese porn that I don’t think Koreans can ever replicate even if they lock up a thousand SNU graduate engineers in Suwon to try and reverse engineer it!
And Thailand? There ARE cultural reasons why it’s so wide spread there…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand#Reasons_why_it_exists
You’re probably a better judge than I am on porn — which is a different beast from prostitution, but anyway. From your Wikipedia link
Replace Thai with Chinese. Rinse and repeat. Times 200…
The reason why I threw the Buddhist angle there is due to a NatGeo show I saw about Thailand’s tolerance towards transgender people. It said Thailand’s particular form of Buddhism played a role here. It’s merely my speculation. There are a few things on the Internet that agree too.
http://www.sexwork.com/Thailand/buddhism.html
http://www.enabling.org/ia/vipassana/Archive/J/Jackson/homoBuddhaJackson.html
It’s a matter of quality and frequency. In the US, undocumented immigrants fill low-wage jobs in massage parlors as elsewhere. A US-born prostitute earning less than $100 a trick is probably a drug addict. Working as a prostitute in a country where it is illegal entails an even greater risk of STDs and violence. An American woman who is under 40, under 150 pounds, and clean is not going to undertake these risks unless she is making hundreds, even thousands of dollars servicing high-end clients.
There’s also lifestyle differences. American men usually come home after work. Phone calls telling the wife he’s working late may be met with suspicion. Men working late in Korea is the norm, no alibi necessary.
Wrong. Schoolgirls do not have sex with homely, stuffy middle-aged men because those men want sex (demand). The girls do it because wonjokoje because they can’t buy designer handbags with a minimum-wage job as a barista at Starbucks. There are some cultural and legal differences, too. Statutory rape laws are actually enforced in some US states, and most middle-class girls would not consider having sex with middle-aged men as a viable means of earning money.
editing: Those girls do enjokosai because…
#27 Wangkon, it sounds like you haven’t really experienced work places in South Korea or their university students.
A lot of chaebol techies and their like (a huge pool, factoring in all the sub divisions) end up working or at least communication between their respective groups, and among the staff, I’d say the female-male ratio is about 1/4 to 1/3. The ratio is higher for areas such as marketing and design. Also, wasn’t there a recent article about the recent # of attorneys being dominated by females?
The employers generally prefer females because they tend to work more efficiently than males and are a better look at than guys, usually. Female grads also have higher employment ratios than males. In fact, I would say I’ve never met a female grad who can code who wasn’t able to get a job. A few years back I could probably go to a job fair with the power to hand out employment to any female senior in the field ion the spot, and would end up being told they have a number of offers.
Positions of power is skewed towards males but a variety of factors come into play, but regardless, it’s insignificant when total jobs are concerned.
Pay differences regarding gender is not really heard of as employers have been generally too lazy to consider things such as maternity leave into pay and such and are too cheap to get people to calculate this; payment is just spit out by some simple automation. If such a thing exists, I would say it’s recent and probably rare.
The thing is, a lot of jobs with large number of males are quite boring, and females just generally don’t like those jobs and get degrees in areas which don’t really translate well to jobs. It’s like saying mathematics discriminates against females, when the reality is that Professors generally have a hard time getting students to continue in subject at higher echelons and would gladly take anyone if they could, especially females. It’s simply that they don’t want to do it.
I’m not saying this out of spite for females, I’m just saying the opportunity is there, and is a heads up that if ya know anyone with technical skills that are on par with what is expected, Korea is a place where being female will be in their favor.
Sonagi,
You mean the school girls can’t afford designer hand bags with the minimum wage job at Mos Burger. Baristas at Starbucks actually make a living wage… which, per my Biz School case studies, is what Starbucks’ founder wanted to do. It’s turned into a haven for liberal arts major degree graduates who don’t know what they want to do and don’t want to teach kids…
Blog entry about the “false god” of anime. I don’t know if the blog writer is serious or not, but it’s funny (if he intended it to be or not).
http://christwire.org/2009/02/godless-japanese-unveil-heathen-anime-sex-train-technology-idol/
dry,
That’s all fine and good, but what are the employment opportunities for Korean women who didn’t go to college or had “some” college or just technical school education?
Is this christwire site for reals? “Our little immoral friends in Japan ..need saving from their backward ways”???
Please tell me that site is a joke.
Crap. Every time they do this all the flights to the Philippines are booked solid with ajoshis going to “play golf”.
Don’t the cops have anything better to do than target folks having consensual good times? Bush is out of office so let’s all stop with the morality pandering.
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