Korean Student Stabs White Japanese Teacher in Kiwiland

Kudos to NettizenKim for such a blatant anti-caucasian racist rant. My sock puppets do me proud.

“Imagine if you’re walking down the street, and see many people of different colors and ethnic backgrounds. Now imagine if each person was different and acted randomly, you never knew if he/she would respond to your greeting nicely or with a gun. You have no ability to stereotype or have any expectations on people’s behavior.

Under such environment, you’d probably become very neurotic, antisocial, or simply stayed home.”

Um, that’s NYC, a mecca of multiculturalism. And rather than become antisocial, I in fact became more well adjusted and learned to embrace people of all descriptions.

wjk, where the hell have you been? Just the opposite has happened. I’m talking about Brooklyn and Queens, where my even my old neighborhood, in the Bed Sty vicinity, once a black ghetto, is now as integrated as any neighborhood you can find anywhere. I’m talking about Clinton Hill, Bed Sty, even Harlem. The uptown trains do have a lot of black people, but that has never disturbed me for a moment. Why this irrational fear of other races?

No, you are the ass for turning the discussion into the lowest human common denominator – race, which most of us overcame decades ago. As for experiencing subtle racism, I’ve experienced all kinds of challenges in my life, both subtle and blatent. The difference is – instead of turning into a whiney kyopo like you, I became a tough, self-sufficient and self respecting.

How many of us have been ridden by a teacher in our lives? But how many of us have been so hypersensitive and mentally unbalanced to resort to murder?

By the way, yuna, I “read” Korean, and I found those comments spurious and self-serving to say the least. Do you really believe that a “racially prejudiced teacher” would “discriminate against no foreign students except Koreans”? Give me a break.

Even if it occured, I was wondering how long it would take to turn this thread into a get whitey racist rant. My sock puppets didn’t take very long, did they?

“Oh, and you Mizar5, you are an ass, too. You know why? Because you have not experienced personally the subtle racism that pervades in such liberal state as NJ here.”

Subtle racism? You mean hypersensitivity, right? Why do those who cite “subtle racism” never produce any evidence for the claim? That’s called circular logic.

It’s precisely when people get over their hypersensitivity to the point where they can openly rib one another that we have a truly multicultural society. Get the idea? Once you stop projecting your insecurity onto others and just learn to laugh about all the old sterotypes, you stop isolating yourself from others.

For instance…

I once took offence to an Englishman’s characterization of Irish as stupid. That’s a terrible bit of stereotyping – they’re not stupid – they’re just drunk.

A guy walks into a store and asks for a keilbasi. The clerk asks if he’s Polish. “What!”, he objects; “If I asked for a watermellon would you ask me if I’m black? If I asked for a meatball, would you ask if I’m Italian?” “No,” says the clerk, but this is a hardware store.”

Did you hear about the new breakfast cereal for African Americans? It’s called “ain’t nothin, bitch”.

A Chinese couple beds down for the evening. The husband turns to his wife and says,”How about 69?” “What!”, she says, “You want chicken and broccoli this time of night?”

JiMong:”#72. It means people like you, Korean bashing puppets, always biased to believe that your acts are justified with twisted westerner’s point-of-view. You people always keep covering your true intentions towards Korean or minorities and you people are always ready to vent your ignorance and racist hatred toward them.”

Sorry, I don’t respond to race baiting. Your assumptions betray you. First, you assume I am white, rather than Asian. Second, you pretend to know my “true intentions” and simply assume that I am filled with hatred and prejudice specifically toward Koreans. Third, you stereotype Westerners as “twisted.”

This is precisely the sort of racist rant and lack of cultural sensitivity that I am decrying. How long will it take you to get beyond this lowest common denominator of race and cultural prejudice?

Believe me, I have gone through what you are myself. But I overcame these feelings and learned to stop projecting my insecurities onto others. I wish you well, little sibling.

“There’s so much crying on this blog about the “racism” in Korea that people lose perspective on what real racism looks like.”

It looks the same, whether in Korea or New Zealand. To my knowledge those who decry racism in Korea are equally critical of racism wherever its vestiges can be found.

Not a single individual has attempted to excuse racism here. However, some have jumped on the bandwagon of assuming that it is an excuse for murder.

Let me share a true story with those who are less disengenuous than you and have no particular axe to grind. It involves a black man living in a town in a Southern US state who personally befriended a KKK grand wizard. This remarkable individual saw beyond the family conditioning to the real individual beneath the ideology. That KKK guy eventually broke down and changed – not because his black friend scapegoated him for his ignorance, but because he saw beyond it.

I don’t know very much about New Zealanders, but I would not characterize an entire nation in this manner. Even when I critique Korea for its excesses, I do so with sympathy and principle.

If this NZ teacher was guilty of racial insensitivity (more likely cultural insensitivity, as Korean is NOT a race),there is no reason to excuse him for it. But to make the hugh leap to stereotype an entire nation is an inexcusable lapse of cultural sensitivity.

What people like tinyflowers are guilty of is becoming precisely what they decry. That is truly sad.

“I would ask you the same thing because that’s ALL you ever blabber on about. Just re-read your comments in this thread.”

I haved not made a single comment about race, and have never criticised anyone on the basis of that person’s race.

The measure of a person is how they argue. Someone who resorts to blatent misrepresentions in a desparate attempt to win an argument at any cost is to be pitied for having missed the true joy of engenuous human exchange and social intercourse.

Such a person is projecting, imputing, shouting, rather than communicating. This kind of person is expressing pent-up aggression and is fairly incapable of meaningful exchange.

Although I wrote this little brother off some time ago, it was not out of spite or any other emotional state, but rather because one-sided engenuousness is wasteful. To him I say, over and out, and I wish you well because, while a little good natured jousting is a good thing, I cannot join in or enable illspirited exchange.

bum” “Mizar5, how old are you?”

56, although people have simply refused to believe it. I’m trim and muscular and young at heart.

bum:”I ask because I’ve noticed that there were interesting generational gaps in how people react with the issue of race. It’s my opinion that, at least in U.S., my generation and below are pretty much at the post-PC level – the kind where the concept of racism (and its reflective cousin, PC-ness) itself is funny (racism is funny, not races themselves).”

I couldn’t agree with you more. My own son, of whom I am so very proud, lives with a beautiful African American woman. Regardless of his Asian heritage, I taught him to respect black culture. As an ameteur jazz musician and afficianato, I have always surrounded myself with friends who are black, white, and Asian. I taught him that our gene pools are intermingled, regardless of what the supremecists maintain, and that his indoubtedly has black genetics. More than that, he grew up around people of all races and cultures. His first girlfriend was Indian, his second, Philipino. You get the idea.

“The generation above us is either too PC-conscious or holds on to some notion of racism (Dave Chappelle quitting his show is a good indication of this), and the generation above them is pretty much at the point of unspoken (or, in AZ’s case, spoken) racial tension. With exceptions in each case, of course.”

Here I disagree. The hippie generation, the boomers, overcame all kinds of mental barriers. However, there were a distinct contingent of conservative reactionaries, those who were the hawks in the Vietnam War. They were the enemy.
As for me, I was rather typical of the post-racial, post sexist people of my generation. We are proud to have imparted our values to admirable people like you.

As for those who remain mired in race and other arbitrary and imaginary human distinctions, I feel for them, because nobody is hopeless.

Thanks again for hanging on my every word. Your need to attempt to outsmart me is flattering. So I owe you a final response.

We all create alternate identities. For instance, you put on tremendous airs, now don’t you? There’s nothing disassociative about this.

But what should trouble you is your own reaction to writings that are no more than pixels on a screen. Your projection of imagined characterists onto people you know nothing about.

An observation, tiny. You use some big words, but they are neither dispassionate nor informed by compassion. Instead, you use them like weapons to lash out at people. Why allow pixels on a screen to unnerve you?

yuna:”and again for the upteenth time, NO ONE is condoning violence, we are condemning prejudice and people who shouldn’t be in the teaching occupation teaching!”

No, you are not condemning prejudice but extoling it, just as long as it’s perpetrated against non-Koreans.

Your “ilk” refers to hypersensitive people for whom it only takes a few dots on a screen to release the seething anger from beneath the surface, that manifests as incoherent and irrational arguments, personal attacks against reasonable commentators, even swearing. And, in some instances premeditated murder.

Not that your ilk is being equated to murderers, of course, as this is an extreme, unbalanced reaction. But when anger and violent protest become acceptable to the extent that they are in SK where even an irrational rumor is enough to set off a new cycle of violent protest and toxic jingoism, then it is only natural to question the socialization process itself. At least it would be in any other culture, wouldn’t it?

Excellent response, yuna.

The sad thing is that the righteous self-pity and anger that Koreans have largely chosen as the way to express themselves in their interactions with the rest of the world is that it is starting to get noticed, and is frankly mystifying to foreigners, as there has never been any particular prejudice against Koreans. In fact, few foreigners can even find Korea on the map no less have any opinion whatsoever about the nation.

However, I do find it interesting that so many foreigners who come in contact with Korea and Koreans form negative opinions about the country despite the typical open-mindedness that originally causes them to leave their comfort zones behind to embrace the culture. In that sense, the famous deeply indocrinated Korean persecution complex is a self-fulfilling prophesy.

What is quite telling here is the prickly sensitivity with which so many react to the slightest perceived insult. That there is a serious insecurity and inferiority complex at work is something that is immediately obvious to anyone from the outside who has spent any amount of time in the country. Yes, it is a very serious problem that denial and enabling can only aggrevate. While foreigners are too diplomatic to express this to Koreans, it is widely recognized.

In the years to come can we expect to see more immature acts of protest like Olympic boxers refusing to leave the ring, soccer players mimicking speed skaters, false accusations and mass demonstrations over false information and people overreacting to perceived slights over obsure issues? Or will a new generation rise above the brainwashing.

Unfortunately, it appears to me that the noble purposes of English education – the globalization of Korea has had just the opposite boomerang effect, that is, inspiring fantasies of cultural imperialism. Personally, I would scale back both English education and overseas education quite drastically. Perhaps it’s time for Korea to become self sufficient in educating its citizens instead of dumping thier dysfunctional students on the rest of the world.

TK, now that was a cool comment. the three modes of persuasion in rhetoric. I see you know your Aristotle.

That is a suitable response to JK.

Remind me to send you a stooge cheque.

BTW, nice fishing expedition. I congratulate you for the effort.