So, I was examining the work of Chinese nude model Zhang Xiaoyu (NSWF) when I came across her photo spread from the Sept 25, 2007 issue (NSFW) of the Chinese edition of Met-Art (NSFW)… which I study, of course, for its outstanding photography work.
I was shocked, however, to see that for a backdrop, the photographers chose Cheonji, or the Lake of Heaven, a crater lake at the top Mt. Baekdusan, regarded by Koreans as the most sacred peak on the Korean Peninsula and a symbol of Korean nationalism.
What’s next? Tang Jia Li (NSFW) at Jongmyo Shrine? Bai Ling at Seokguram?
Not that I don’t appreciate hot naked chicks in scenic locales, but I do wonder how the Chinese would feel about third-rate Korean models taking their kit off at the top of Tai Shan or in front of the Mao Mausoleum in Tiananmen Square.
In fact, if I were Korean, I wouldn’t be satisfied until this long-festering insult to national pride was avenged by having increasingly hot Korean models posing nude at appropriately sacred Chinese sites.
Of course, if I were Korean, I’d also be upset that “hair nudes” are apparently permitted in the world’s largest Communist dictatorship, but not in democratic South Korea.
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“Hair Nudes” hahahahaha! Classic
Thanks for that first link. I’m going to be sore for days.
Well, it can’t be desecration if it’s consistent with the myths. What do you think Hwanung and the bear lady were doing up there anyway?
Great link!
I must say I’m absolutely shocked …. that I didn’t know about Miss Zhang until now. Thanks for the links!
I didn’t even know that they used backgrounds in clothing optional photography. Those backdrops must be something for all the old people to look at.
As an aside, I don’t need anything but the subject to tell that it was a bit chilly when the photos were taken.
The Chinese who did the shoot may not know that Koreans consider the mountain sacred and besides, the Chinese are free to do what they like with the part that lies in China. One man’s holy water font is another man’s urinal.
Conveniently enough, I’ll be in Beijing in February, and the hotel I use is near Tiananmen. So, if they could organize a desecration of Tiananmen next month, it would be ideal. Thankyouverymuchinadvance…
I was shocked, however, to see that for a backdrop, the photographers chose Cheonji, or the Lake of Heaven, a crater lake at the top Mt. Baekdusan, regarded by Koreans as the most sacred peak on the Korean Peninsula and a symbol of Korean nationalism.
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hmm….this Mountain is in China. It is a Chinese Mountain. I don’t see what the problem is.
Koreans worship their history and land even though they sold it to the Chinese so many many years ago. Not much sympathy here.
It is like the 80 year old Germans crying over East Prussia and Danzig. Tough …. .
“hmm….this Mountain is in China. It is a Chinese Mountain. I don’t see what the problem is.”
Man… have some ice cream. Maybe you will chill and mellow out a bit. Marmot posted this as a light hearted humor and let viewers have a see at some naked girl.
Yet you manged to take your shot in, nevertheless.
This kind of tit-for-tat nationalism could sweep the entire region, pitting not only Korea against her neighbors, but Cambodian against Thai, Pakistani against Indian … where will it stop? And where can I get a think tank job monitoring this conflict?
if history was written correctly, something similar to World War I is required.
Well… at least the model has a Korean style mushroom haircut…
All would be forgiven if the models were hotter, but as Robert said, they are third rate at best.
Oh man, I’ve been waiting a long time to use this bit of netizen lingo… 탁탁탁
It is too bad the models weren’t hotter, but what the heck.
I’m not so offended by the fact that she took nude photographs at “my people’s” sacred site or whatever, as much as I’m offended by the fact that she’s fucking ugly. The least they could have done was pick someone hot.
Yes, fugly-ness offends me.
And what are you, Brad Pitt?
Assuming she was on the Chinese side of Mount Paektu, what’s the problem?
Some of you have impossibly high standards – she’s a fairly good-looking woman with a lovely body, but I guess you’d only want someone as good-looking as yourself. See #17′s comment for further information.
And I found it mildly interesting that the Chinese’s characters for what presumably in the Chinese name
(at 00:45 of the video) for what the Koreans call Paektusan differ from the Chinese characters that the Koreans use for Paektusan.
And outstanding links, Robert – those photography courses from the Web are muy fantastico for chasing the winter blues away.
Korean name: 백두산 (白頭山) White Head Mountain
Chinese name: 长白山 / 長白山 Ever White Mountain
The names aren’t that different, and I believe the name in the Manchu language is the same as that in Chinese. One area of Koreana I find interesting is the etymology of place names. I know that the adoption of Chinese characters by the Koreans caused place and personal names to change over time. A majority of place names were translated into Chinese, retaining the meaning and losing the original pronunciation, while a minority were transliterated, retaining an approximation of the original pronunciation and losing the meaning.
Or tit-for-tit, as the case may be…
I wouldn’t kick her out of bed.
#17 nope. I don’t think Brad Pitt would be caught dead in here. But then again, I ain’t the one taking nudie photos up on Baekdusan (thank god).
nothing is more offensive than
Jung-il-bong
“This kind of tit-for-tat nationalism could sweep the entire region, pitting not only Korea against her neighbors, but Cambodian against Thai, Pakistani against Indian … where will it stop?”
What in the world are you referring to? This piece was a light hearted fluff from Robert. Why are people taking this piece so seriously?
Well, see, my guess is that some of you fellas here are using the average looking face as an excuse for venting irritation of a different sort. I’ve asked quite a number of men as to what they would prefer given an exclusive choice: a beautiful face or a hot S Line body. They almost always choose the body. And the lady under discussion here seems to have a very nice body, and the face aint all *that* bad, so what’s not to like?
Indeed.
But to seriously address the issue that Robert brings up ANYWAY, just for fun — In the Shamanic / Nationalist sense that Baekdu-san / Changbai-shan is “sacred”, there is actually nothing blasphemous at all about showing a naked pretty woman on it. When speaking about holy mountains, never restrict the concept of “holy” to narrow puritanical anti-sex anti-nature views of Christianity and Islam (and maybe Neo-Confucianism too, tho lesser)…
For reference on what dokdoforever correctly pointed out in #3 above, see the painting at the bottom of my:
http://www.san-shin.org/Dan-gun-2.html
my “indeed” was in ref to #25, but i’ll also apply it to #26 — and at my end, “correctly”
cm — I think slim was being light-hearted as well. Notice the last sentence. I, too, would love a job at the Heritage Foundation monitoring the coming Nude Wars.
“I wouldn’t kick her out of bed.”
No but the wife would!!!
The bobbit
Ancient chinese proverb is applicable here;
“man no look at mantelpiece when poking fire.”
Yep. Golmin Shanggiyan Alin. Perpetually White Mountain.
Actually Kim Il-Sung sold out Korea and gave part of this mountain to China, not South Korea, which would never have made such a deal.
There are far better looking “dates” in China than this woman too. She has awful legs to boot.
She isn’t the best looking filly in the shed, but I think she’d qualify for a 7. Besides, I shudder to think what the naysayers would look like in the buff in that “nippy” climate. If people actually had the standards that they claimed, most of you would be dying childless virgins which to be honest would be great for the rest of us who are willing to settle for less than a Heidi Klum.
Having seen photos of Heidi Klum sans make-up and implants, I’d say you’re setting your standards too low. The model in the photo has a shapelier figure than Heidi’s, and without fake lashes and a silicone nose rod, her face would be prettier, too.
“I’d say you’re setting your standards too low.”
Apparently not too low, to have rejected your advance.
In a more serious question,
長白山
Sonagi: Ever White Mountain
Dda: Perpetually White Mountain
In Korea 長 would be interpreted as ‘long’, so 長白山 would be Long White Mountain.
Could either of you explain why it is interpreted as ‘perpetual’ or ‘ever’, rather than ‘long’? I’m just wondering if there is a difference in the meaning of certain Chinese letters between the two countries.
Ouch, babarian. I ought to ignore your request, but here goes:
Even in Korean, 長/长 doesn’t only mean “long.” It also means “eldest” as in 장남 and “superior” as in 시장, 회장, and all those other titles that end in 장. In Chinese, there is the additional meaning of “always or forever” as in 长安, the old name of Xian when it was a Chinese capital, its name meaning “ever peaceful.” There is the four-character expression 长生不老, or “immortality,” literally “always live no age.” Besides functioning as a single adjective or part of a compound, 长 is also a verb meaning “to grow.” A common two-syllable compound word with this meaning is 长大, “to grow up.” The character is the same, but the pronunciation and tones are different. Chang2 means “long” or “forever.” Zhang4 means “elder/superior” or “grow.”
‘English-language volcanology resources often refer to the mountain as Baitoushan from the Chinese pinyin rendering of the Korean Hanja 白頭山.’
I ask you to cease dissension and understand that when vulcanologists speak, you should tremble and obey.
Thanks, Sonagi, but it still doesn’t explain why it has to be ‘perpetual white mountain’, instead of ‘ long white mountain’: the former meaning ‘long- lasting’ white mountain, the latter ‘ geographically long’ white mountain.
Use context clues, babarian. Which makes more sense? The Chinese name may originate from Manchu, which probably uses different words for “long” and “forever.”
Manchu.. I’ve often wondered how close it would be to Korean. I was hoping that I might get a little extra return to all that time put into Korean – but alas, it sounds pretty different to my ear. I wonder what your impression is. Here’s some TV in Sibe, which is supposed to be almost identical to Manchu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dpq9lgOSd8&feature=related
“Actually Kim Il-Sung sold out Korea and gave part of this mountain to China, not South Korea, which would never have made such a deal.”
Moot point. North Korea is free to sign international treaties.
Besides, do I need to remind you of the Alaska Boundary Dispute? The Louisiana Purchase was not without its opposition, either.
Anyone who says this chica isn’t shaggable is either lying or a poofter.
Golmin can mean long, as in tumen ba golmi hece, 萬里長城 (The Great Wall). But here it’s obvious it means perpetually.
They could have picked a prettier face, though, and even you can’t deny that. Anyway, you can always turn stuff over and…
Sheesh… Lee Pani she may not be, but she’s still pretty.
Robert, NOOOOOOOOOOO. You are losing your street cred among Koreans by saying such things. Nice figure yes, but that is a fairly average or slightly above average face among the surgically enhanced features out and about in Korea, no? But then again, I don’t live there any more and I only look at pretty Korean women on the internet.
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