Zaytun unit getting ready to return home. Korean relationship with Iraq to change.

by Andy Jackson on November 21, 2008

in Korea in the War on Terror

Korea’s Zaytun unit will be out of northern Iraq by the end of the year. With their departure, and increasing security in the rest of Iraq, the nature of the relationship between the local Kurdish government and Korea will change (Kurdish Globe):

The source believes that once Korean troops are gone the relation between Korea and Kurdistan Region will not stay as strong as it is now. But if Kurdistan offers multiple business opportunities to Korean businessmen, relations are likely to remain strong.

“If the KRG [Kurdish Regional Government] thinks only of Korea as a source of donations, Korea cannot continue the relationship,” said the source. “South Korea wants this bilateral relationship to be based on helping each other.”

From reading the bit at the bottom of the article, it seems that the Kurds are happy with what the Koreans have done in their region.

The Korean withdraw is timed well with tomorrow’s V.I. Day:

This victory is further evidenced by the emails I receive from deployed friends stating “I’m bored”. This is so counter to the ones I would get from my soldier (during his first and second deployment) stating “only x number of mortars today”.

We can’t have bored soldiers, can we? Perhaps it really is time to withdraw from Iraq.

{ 20 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Wedge November 21, 2008 at 7:06 pm

I second that notion of Victory in Iraq Day. Now off to find some beer to celebrate with.

2 Jewook November 21, 2008 at 8:21 pm

I’m really glad Korean soldiers gave a good impression to Kurdistan. I guess we are more civilized than some might think.

3 anunsaram November 21, 2008 at 8:59 pm

Korea had to be dragged kicking and screaming to contribute to the Iraq effort, finally they sent a small number of non-coms to the safest region of the country. And now, they will vie for the spoils as if they were the driving force behind the whole damn thing.

When to business opportunities open up, they’ll make their move to the front of the line faster than an a-juma in a buffet line.

Some things never change.

4 Jewook November 21, 2008 at 9:25 pm

#3

Of course Korea was reluctant to go to go to Iraq. Why should we be enthusiastic to help, when the US had no business to be in Iraq in the first place. The US gov couldn’t ask us to send combatants because they knew they were in the wrong. If the US was just in their cause I’m sure they would have been more demanding.

5 foflappy November 21, 2008 at 9:28 pm

Jewook:

Why would some think that the troops “are not civilized”? Examples?

6 foflappy November 21, 2008 at 9:30 pm

I speak of Korean troops per your post. “We”

7 foflappy November 21, 2008 at 9:34 pm

Jewook:

“Why should we be enthusiastic to help?”

I don’t know, Jewook….why?

8 anunsaram November 21, 2008 at 9:51 pm

Well Jew-Kook,….

I recall another country that in the early years of the 1950’s was a steaming, stinking shit-hole that seems to have done pretty well over the years thanks to a certain benefactor.

Not only had that certain benefactor removed a long entrenched brutal colonizer from their land, and 5 years later expended great human and economic resources to defend it against communist invasion, but then babysat that struggling democracy for 50+ more years to help see it through.

Gee,…..have ya’ figured it out yet?

Koreans,….are always looking for the free ride, always ready to jump on the wagon as long as they don’t have to pull it. When things go wrong they always look to pin the blame on someone else.

9 Jewook November 21, 2008 at 10:15 pm

I believe both times the US came to Korea’s rescue, we wanted the help. I don’t recall hearing about Iraqis asking for help. And if the US was so worried about the Iraqi citizens plight of living under tyranny they should have acted much sooner.

10 anunsaram November 21, 2008 at 11:42 pm

That’s a pretty feeble response, you can do better than that…………..

C’mon get your “Han” thing on, and show me what ya’ got.

Whenever there’s fighting or heavy lifting to be done, there’s always a Korean ready to hold your coat and offer advice from the sidelines while you get the job done.

11 Andy Jackson November 22, 2008 at 7:14 am

Before we go too far down the “ungrateful Korea” path, let’s remember that Korea did send two combat divisions to Vietnam.

12 WangKon936 November 22, 2008 at 8:53 am

Two combat divisions, a marine brigade, a hospital corps and engineering elements.

Btw… I thought VI day was when Dubya, in his flight jump suit, landed on an air craft carrier back in May of 2003.

13 WangKon936 November 22, 2008 at 8:55 am

Oh…. and 5,000 casualties…

14 redneck hickboy November 22, 2008 at 9:11 am

Are there any Korean troops in Afghanistan?

15 Sonagi November 22, 2008 at 9:14 am

Before we go too far down the “ungrateful Korea” path, let’s remember that Korea did send two combat divisions to Vietnam.

And those Korean soldiers were paid in US dollars, much of which went into government coffers. Park Chung-hee didn’t send Korean men and women to kill the Vietnamese out of the goodness of his heart.

16 WangKon936 November 22, 2008 at 9:35 am

Ummm…. they weren’t paid as much as American troops, not that that’s important. As Denzel Washington’s character in Glory said, “$10 a month [white troops were getting $13 a month]! Well, a black man can stop a bullet just as well as a white man.”

17 Sonagi November 22, 2008 at 9:38 am

I didn’t say they were, Wangkon. I said they were paid in US currency.

18 Corpy Carly November 22, 2008 at 10:53 am

#15

They weren’t sent to kill anyone but the Viet Cong and the NVA – those aren’t synonymous with “Vietnamese”.

19 Linkd November 22, 2008 at 11:12 am

That’s a pretty feeble response

Actually, jewook’s response to your racist attack showed great strength – strength of character, that is.

20 Linkd November 22, 2008 at 11:27 am

As I was saying about the borg in the Madagascar thread:

AP Published: September 25, 2008 SEOUL, South Korea: South Korea’s state oil company said Thursday it signed an agreement with Iraq’s Kurdish regional government to drill for oil in exchange for social infrastructure investment.

The Korea National Oil Corp. and Prime Minister Nechervan Barzani of Iraq’s self-ruled Kurdish region signed the deal in Seoul, KNOC said in a release.

Under the terms, KNOC gets the right to drill for oil in eight locations, or blocks, in the Kurdish region. In return, KNOC will pursue power plant and sewage facility projects worth an initial US$600 million.

KNOC will carry out another US$1.5 billion in projects provided it becomes possible to export oil from Iraqi Kurdistan, the release said. Thursday’s deal follows preliminary agreements reached earlier this year.

You can find many articles like this by Googling. A few things to note: First, what the fuck is the “Kurdish regional government”? Nothing, that’s what. The region has gotten itself some autonomy while the rest of Iraq is in the shit, but sooner or later someone in Baghdad is gonna say “You fuckers get back in line. There is only ONE government in Iraq, and it ain’t you, and you have no authority to be signing agreements.” Notice that Shell, Exxon, BP haven’t signed any deals with the Kurds. They’re waiting until Iraq has a real central government, and they don’t want to piss off whoever that might be by enriching the Kurds in the meantime. When Baghdad asserts control, all agreements with the Kurds will be nullified.

Second, as stated before in my Madagascar rumor-mongering, the cut/paste above tells a clear tale of Korean government-led resource-hunting in regions where modern companies from advanced nations dare not go. Following the gov’t will the Korean construction companies, taking contracts for power plants, sewage plants, etc.

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