Migukland Election Day Open Thread

by Robert Koehler on November 5, 2008

Prognosticating, shit-talking, links and other election-day (or, as I prefer to think of it, the National Day of Shame, regardless of who wins) crap can go here.

UPDATE: Reports have Obama taking Pennsylvania AND Ohio. In the words of Pvt. Hudson:

UPDATE: Game, set and match — McCain concedes.

{ 167 comments… read them below or add one }

1 thekorean November 5, 2008 at 8:52 am

I want a 40-state wipeout. I will be disappointed with anything less.

2 WangKon936 November 5, 2008 at 8:54 am

So our choices are between a closet socialist and an old geezer (and his dim witted former beauty queen veep)?

Where is a Southern bubba who likes to chase skirts and an alcholic Texas good ole boy when you need ‘em?

3 KrZ November 5, 2008 at 8:54 am

I want to collect a bottle of wjk’s tears and use them as lube to toss off with.

4 jdog2050 November 5, 2008 at 9:07 am

@KrZ

Tears don’t make good lube.

Anyway, Obama by 8-10% of the electoral vote.

5 Seth Gecko November 5, 2008 at 9:15 am

McCain with the upset victory. LA-style riots in many cities.

6 Seth Gecko November 5, 2008 at 9:18 am

McCain winning so far, 8 electoral votes to 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 9:21 am

Why would NBC and others bother doing updates on States with 0% counted? Too early to call, no joke. And they have given states with 10% counted, a little presumptious yes.

8 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 9:21 am

Why would NBC and others bother doing updates on States with 0% counted? Too early to call, no joke. And they have given states with 10% counted, a little presumptious yes.

9 Linkd November 5, 2008 at 9:28 am

The networks have nothing to lose by getting it wrong. If they royally fuck up their “calls”, people will then watch their apologies later, just like in 2000.

The purpose of a commercial network, even a news network, is to deliver the audience to the advertisers. Period. All other ‘mission statements’ are fluff. (I know; I write them).

10 WangKon936 November 5, 2008 at 9:30 am

Nah, no riots. Socialists, ecotopians, gays and New Yorker readers don’t riot… they will just move to Canada.

11 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 9:42 am

However minorities and the disenfranchised unemployed do riot.

12 Wedge November 5, 2008 at 9:44 am

#10: They always threaten to move to Canuckistan but never do; same as Lucy promising to hold the football.

13 WangKon936 November 5, 2008 at 9:49 am

I predict that the heavy Asian north of VA will help the dems make it a blue state.

14 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 9:58 am

I predict a high turnout in the previously lazy moose voters will give Alaska to Obama.

15 Sonagi November 5, 2008 at 10:02 am

North of VA is West Virginia, where rednecks talk openly of Obama being assassinated. Asians are clustered in northern Virginia.

16 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 10:04 am

This election coverage is bullshit, they are just basing it all on exit polls and predictions, they have given 118 of the electoral votes despite the only state with a decent count being Kentucky.

These coverage teams must really enjoy making dicks of themselves.

17 rog November 5, 2008 at 10:09 am

Does anywhere know where the party is at in Itaewon? Not the McCain one. I want to attend a wake for kushibo/swlee/user-81.

18 Ladron November 5, 2008 at 10:26 am

Currently 77 Electoral votes for Obama, 34 for McCain

19 jdog2050 November 5, 2008 at 10:48 am

@Rog

Go to Orange Tree.

20 rog November 5, 2008 at 11:04 am

Thanks jdog2050
Excuse my ignorance, but where is Orange Tree?
I’ve never heard of it.

21 Ladron November 5, 2008 at 11:04 am

Damn. 174 vs. 49 now.

22 slim November 5, 2008 at 11:08 am

Looks like we had a credible Kushibo outing on that open thread. Any thoughts?

23 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 11:12 am

What is a Kushibo? Is that like a Kwijibo?

24 Ladron November 5, 2008 at 11:18 am

Kwijibo? The North American hairless ape?

25 rog November 5, 2008 at 11:24 am

Kushibo is a troll that haunts k-blogs under ID socks. Theory is it is one guy who makes up multiple characters and writes out converstations with these characters in blog comment sections. Sometimes to buttress an argument, other times to discredit one. Check out the commeraderie between kerplunk (aka swlee) and user-81 (aka kushibo) a few weeks ago.
Classic kushibo.

26 JW November 5, 2008 at 11:24 am

I don’t care if Obama wins. If the Orleans Parish goes Red, I feel I have every right as a democratic participant to be seriously, seriously pissed. Would you agree?

27 abcdefg November 5, 2008 at 11:26 am

I think that, slim, you care way too much.

No way Obama is losing this tonight.

28 JW November 5, 2008 at 11:27 am

PA is a done deal. This election is done deal.

29 hardyandtiny November 5, 2008 at 11:27 am

menthol cigarettes

30 br November 5, 2008 at 11:32 am

obama announced at 174 on both CNN & realclearpolitics. the whole west coast as well as hawaii & new mexico is solid blue, that’s another 82, brings us to 256, 15 away from the prize. he just needs a win in either OH, FL or NC, he currently leads in all 3 states.

it’s over.

31 rog November 5, 2008 at 11:33 am

I’m starting my celebrating now.
Anybody wanting to join me is welcome to come to the Orange Tree and party up.
I’ll be the loud drunk.

32 br November 5, 2008 at 11:34 am

OH just went to Obama. that’s it.
now let’s see if he can turn it into something really big.

33 newspaperman November 5, 2008 at 11:36 am

Tim Savage is at the Democratic Abroad event in Seoul…. reporting with live updates. Check it out.

http://english.ohmynews.com/ArticleView/article_view.asp?menu=A11100&no=384068&rel_no=1&back_url=

34 KrZ November 5, 2008 at 11:38 am

LOL

35 ws1968 November 5, 2008 at 11:45 am

No matter how long it was written on the wall, it is still a good thing for Obama to get in.
Lets hope he delivers.
I can’t remember the last time I actually felt proud to be an American. This election result has given pause to my long declining faith in the US. ‘
Lets keep it up people.

36 Sonagi November 5, 2008 at 11:46 am

I have to be to work by 7 AM tomorrow, so I won’t be able to stay up and watch Senator McCain’s gracious concession speech.

37 rubberseoul November 5, 2008 at 11:50 am

Why did the blogmaster call it a “National Day of Shame”?

This was the best run election in my lifetime, IMHO.
Mind you, the decision has yet to get to the Supreme Court…

38 KrZ November 5, 2008 at 11:55 am

National Day of Shame because Ron Paul didn’t win

39 seouldout November 5, 2008 at 11:57 am

I hope the whites accept their defeat graciously and don’t react – as they often do – by rioting.

40 Sonagi November 5, 2008 at 11:57 am

Maybe the blogmaster is confusing the 2008 election with the 2004 and 2000 elections. A refreshing change to see record numbers of people waiting in long lines, rather than hear stories of citizens kicked off voter registration rolls.

41 rubberseoul November 5, 2008 at 12:02 pm

@KrZ,
The blog master is a Ron Paul tinfoil hat type?
I like Ron Paul, too, but there was no way he was going to get on a ticket. Maybe in a post-apocalyptic America, but not in this vote.
Newspaperman, how do you get the Obama flag to show up next to your name?

42 rog November 5, 2008 at 12:10 pm

WARNING: The Orange Tree is an official Democrats Abroad function.
No way in hell I want to spend a day like today hanging out with a bunch of political freaks.
Anyone know any alternative venues? I may just have to trawl the Won. Good thing I’ve had practice.

Is it too early to call in sick for work tomorrow?

43 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 12:17 pm

Who will be first to concede, McCain or User81?

44 bumfromkorea November 5, 2008 at 12:19 pm

I’m looking closely to the Minnesota senate race. Are we going to have the first SNL alumni senator?

woohoo! As my mother said after Obama won PA and OH, “Oh, good. No apocalypse, then.”

45 sesame seed November 5, 2008 at 12:21 pm

I find it interesting that Nader is outpacing Bob Barr. I’m really curious to see how much or little the third parties are affecting some states.

Is anyone here following the Massachusetts Prop 1 for repeal of the state income tax? Guess which group is against the repeal? The teacher’s union. The premise is, of course, to force the government to become more efficient. I’ll watch and see just how well or poor Mass. should do in the next couple of years, if this passes. If it’s successful, it could be a model for burning down the IRS.

46 JW November 5, 2008 at 12:23 pm

Holy crap. Melissa Long is sure as hell long on looks

Hot damn

47 Granfalloon November 5, 2008 at 12:23 pm

I wanted two things for this election:
1. A president I’m not ashamed of.
2. A highly visible character who inadvertently creates good comedy (a la Huh Kyeong Yeong).

I feel as though I’ve gotten both. Thank you to Barack Obama and Sarah Palin. I’ll miss the antics of the latter, but not so much that I’d want to see her in office.

48 JW November 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm

YESSSS ORLEANS PARISH GOING BLUE

THANK YOU my fellow Americans, there is still hope yet.

49 Wedge November 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm

#41: There tend not to be too many pinkos hanging at the 3 Alley. Should be plenty of opportunities for commiseration with the old guys at the bar.

50 Wedge November 5, 2008 at 12:26 pm

#46: Biden will be providing plenty of whack comments over the next four years. And you thought Quayle was bad…

51 rog November 5, 2008 at 12:32 pm
52 Robert Koehler November 5, 2008 at 12:35 pm

The blog master is a Ron Paul tinfoil hat type?

No, not a tinfoil hat type. Just someone who liked what Ron Paul was selling relative to the rest of the cast of characters.

I find it interesting that Nader is outpacing Bob Barr.

I don’t, given that many Libertarians had issues with Barr — his Drug Warrior history, for starters.

53 Robert Koehler November 5, 2008 at 12:38 pm

Oh, and the next commenter who mentions Kushibo gets banned.

54 nonphotoblue November 5, 2008 at 12:39 pm

So is this site going to go all black tomorrow in mourning? :D

55 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 12:46 pm

No the background will be blue. Bit testy Mr Koehler, do not worry there is always 2020.

56 bumfromkorea November 5, 2008 at 12:48 pm

I always thought Barr was a strange choice for the libertarians…

User-81, once again, should not ban himself, even though Obama kicked ass tonight.

57 WangKon936 November 5, 2008 at 12:51 pm

Well… obviously the dems will gloat tomorrow. They may even say that they are the party of the future, that the Republicans are in trouble, that they are a party in decline, etc. etc.

Guys, it’s the economy stupid. That’s why the dems won tonight. It’s not that the dems are the party of the future or that the country is tilting left. I don’t think it is. The U.S. has been center of right for most of it’s history. That’s not going to change anytime soon.

Still… it would help if the Republicans did have some sort of environmental policy, cool the voices of their extreme right, and embrace diversity rather than just pay it lip service.

Congrats Obama. Now just be careful not to be a one termer… ;)

58 rog November 5, 2008 at 12:52 pm

@ Robert Koehler re: comment 53
Let me get this right, your warning DOES NOT apply to commenters who mention user-81 or Mizar5?

59 WangKon936 November 5, 2008 at 12:53 pm

Whatever happened to Mizar5?

60 slim November 5, 2008 at 1:03 pm

All major US networks project an end to the user-81 personality of a certain hydra-headed commenter.

61 rog November 5, 2008 at 1:04 pm

I think Mizar5 got banned.
Robert runs a fairly tight ship.
Is anyone else coming to the 3 Alley Bar tonight?
Wanna have a Marmot’s Hole get together?

62 WangKon936 November 5, 2008 at 1:06 pm

“Wanna have a Marmot’s Hole get together?”

Sounds like a sausage fest… pass.

63 iheartblueballs November 5, 2008 at 1:09 pm

Oh, and the next commenter who mentions Kushibo gets banned.

That’s just weird.

64 KrZ November 5, 2008 at 1:09 pm

Robert Koehler for President in 2012: he’ll never give you up, let you down, or desert you.

65 newspaperman November 5, 2008 at 1:10 pm
66 gbevers November 5, 2008 at 1:10 pm

President Barack Obama is America’s Roh Mu-hyun. God save us!

67 Robert Koehler November 5, 2008 at 1:10 pm

Bit testy Mr Koehler, do not worry there is always 2020.

Not really testy about the election. More testy about the Kushibo talk.

68 rubberseoul November 5, 2008 at 1:14 pm

Hey Robert, I hear you on Ron Paul, just saying he had a snnow flakes chance in hell from the start.
@Rog, I might make it, although its normally hard to get a seat there after six and I like to sit down if I hand over money for a beer.
I’m pretty stoked with this result, it is going to go so far toward reparing our image both of ourselves and overseas.
@ JW, is Melissa Long that white chick on CNN? She is very white. I honestly don’t know how long its been since I’ve done a white girl, which is probably a sign its time to do so. It helps Melissa looks kinda Russian.

69 abcdefg November 5, 2008 at 1:16 pm

Whatever happened to Mizar5?

Rather, who the fug is “rog”?

Anyway, here’s something I’ll note. When Hillary was getting her ass kicked by Obama, there were no videos of HIllary supporters aping monkey sounds and carrying around Curious Geoge dolls racistly mocking Obama. However, when McCain was getting his ass kicked and his campagin was going down the toilet, such behavior was synonymous with the tenor of the behavior of those at McCain rallies.

Obama is the winner tonight. I’m happy. HIs grandmother passed away yesterday. It’s seems story-book bittersweet.

I’m cynical so I’ll add something else. Post victory, I find all the Black-American sentimentalism a little bit too much for me. Obama is half-black; moreover, his father was Nigerian, and therefore Obama is not quite the “descendent” of Black Americans that he is sometimes portrayed to be by Black Americans, with no real link to America’s slavery past as other black politicians may have.

What I like about Obama is that as a person he is many things. He doesn’t have an exclusive American upbringing, having been to school in Indonesia. He was raised by a white grandmother. Has a half-asian, half sister, and has married a beautiful Black American woman, and has two beautiful daughters. He is a family man and a politician who dwarfs bothr McCain and Palin in philosophical sensitivity. I like him and like what he represents. He’s run a great, wise and effective, campaign, and did it with class.

70 Robert Koehler November 5, 2008 at 1:21 pm

and embrace diversity rather than just pay it lip service.

Dude, the Republicans put John “Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007″ (a.k.a. the McCain-Kennedy Bill) McCain at the head of their ticket. How much more “embracing of diversity” do you want the Republican ticket to get?

71 WangKon936 November 5, 2008 at 1:23 pm

I agree that he did it with class and I would also say that some republicans did tilt on the racist side (often in McCain’s rallies) that was both sad and infantile.

I think I speak for a lot of non-white Americans in saying that sometimes the closed mindedness of the Republican party scares us.

72 WangKon936 November 5, 2008 at 1:24 pm

I think McCain is a pretty open minded guy actually. But one man doesn’t make a party.

73 rog November 5, 2008 at 1:25 pm

Let me just say that the McCain campaign was well done, and this whole election marks a turnaway from the dirty tricks that have tarnished previous votes. Maybe now McCain can retire from the public eye. He is WAY TOO old to have applied for this job. Can we please have age limits for this job.
I don’t know, maybe require candidates at least be under RETIREMENT age, for gods sake.
Now lets work toward repairing the damage Bush and his crowd have done to our country and the world.
BTW, I don’t think anyone should be banned from this site just because they said they believed one guy or the other would win. That’s pretty damn authoritarian.

74 rog November 5, 2008 at 1:30 pm

@ abcdefg
“rog” is short for Roger, my real name.
Its pronounced rodge.
Is abcdefg short for something? :)

75 Billy November 5, 2008 at 1:31 pm

Best of luck to President Elect Obama. He’s got a big, big job ahead. Really hope he surrounds himself with good people.

Funny thing I’ve noticed, most of the Dem’s I’ve talked to seem to believe that by electing Obama, the rest of the world will forget about the two consecutive terms they elected Bush, and that all will be magically forgiven…..

76 rubberseoul November 5, 2008 at 1:34 pm

Is anyone else watching the live coverage of Chicago?
All them kids, reminds me of a candlelight demonstration.

77 rog November 5, 2008 at 1:37 pm

Good point Billy.
Voting in Bush twice doesn’t say much about our ability to choose our Presidents.

78 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 1:40 pm

The popular vote is 51-48, reamarkably close considering the electoral college landslide. I think User81′s point is vindicated even if he over extended.

Will the democrats get a senate majority? Why do you need 60/40 majority?

79 hoju_saram November 5, 2008 at 1:49 pm

Obama officially in the White House. The US finaly makes the right decision.

Not usualy one to gloat, but here’s a comment from a week or so ago I thought was pretty funny.

Wedge:

Man, a lot of people are going to be disappointed when their messiah loses on Nov. 4.

Oh dear.

80 kimchipig November 5, 2008 at 1:55 pm

Where is wkj? Out eating his words like I said he would be? It’s a landslide!

81 slim November 5, 2008 at 1:56 pm

Tax audit for Joe the Plumber?

82 ws1968 November 5, 2008 at 1:58 pm

lol at those pictures of the tongue-wagging McCain. Wasn’t McCain the oldest candidate ever? Boy, I’m glad we did not go that way, the way he moved, it was like he had formaldehyde flowing through him.

83 sesame seed November 5, 2008 at 1:59 pm

Sadly, Massachusetts and North Dakota both voted NO for repeal of their income tax. I have to wonder if it had to do with the wording of the questions on the ballot. I remember in statistics that we’re supposed to pose questions in the negative but is that how it’s supposed to be on the ballot? Something like:

This proposition is not against repealing the state income tax. Y/N

I can imagine that this can be confusing to some.

A positive thing about another voter initiative is that Massachusetts and Michigan both legalized either medical marijuana or decriminalized small amounts! Cool!

Now we just have to keep pushing the 10th Amendment and overturn some federal interference.

Here’s AP’s Election results page with 3rd Party goodness!

http://hosted.ap.org/specials/election_night_2008/election_map_premium/index.html?SITE=MASPDELN

84 WangKon936 November 5, 2008 at 1:59 pm

“Tax audit for Joe the Plumber?”

ROTFL!

85 R. Elgin November 5, 2008 at 2:01 pm

I think McCain is a pretty open minded guy actually but one man doesn’t make a party.

Absolutely true. This marks a the public perception and understanding that the Republican Party is no longer representational of what most Americans consider decent leadership. If the Republican Party of today were really interested in the well-being of America, they would disband and form a new party that does not cater to the worst but promotes the best. As it is now, the party is the thrall of ideologues and players. Sadly, the party of Lincoln is no more.

Also, to say that Obama has won this election is true but is simplistic in vision. This victory for Obama is more than one man or one idea. This is a vindication of the system that, despite it being played and rigged, as per the last eight years, it is still capable of functioning as intended. Mr. Obama has not won — the people have won.

86 gbevers November 5, 2008 at 2:09 pm

#69: “What I like about Obama is that as a person he is many things.”

True. He changes his story ending on his audience, and then claims that he has always said that or been that way. When it comes to the truth, Barack Obama is as slippy as a mudfish. In other words, the man does not hold truth in high regard. I am glad that we finally have a black president, but I just wish it was not Obama.

This is probably the biggest gamble that Americans have ever taken. I just hope we do not crap out.

I do not care if Obama raises the taxes on higher income people. I just hope he does not screw up the war on terrorism, destroys our armed forces, or ignores our national security.

87 cm November 5, 2008 at 2:10 pm

Congrats America, you picked the wrong man for the sole sake of change. Wait until the honeymoon is over. Wait until he drags the world into protectionist trade wars and appeasing of dictators like North Korea. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama deals with Iran and Talibans and end up see nuclear weapons proliferation all over the Arab world.
Just wait until the tax rate goes up so that he can fund all those welfare for the perennial poor who can’t be helped by throwing more money at them. You think the US has a high debt problem now? Just wait until he’s done in 4 years.

88 hoju_saram November 5, 2008 at 2:17 pm

This is probably the biggest gamble that Americans have ever taken.

A gamble is sticking to the same policies that have fucked your country. Obama is the safest bet there is. By the way, any word yet on the messiah’s position on Dokdo?

89 brent November 5, 2008 at 2:18 pm

Democrats now have the presidency, and majorities in congress and senate. Is that correct?

90 Darth Babaganoosh November 5, 2008 at 2:18 pm

Well the Dems have no excuse now: complete control of Executive, House and Senate. Now let’s see them DO something with it, not like the way they pissed away their power in the House weeks after getting it.

91 kimchipig November 5, 2008 at 2:19 pm

In the end, McSame ran one of the most disjointed campaigns I have ever seen. Obama selected his issues and stuck with them.

92 br November 5, 2008 at 2:24 pm

#86> aren’t all politicians like that ? bending the truth is done all over the political spectrum, all over the world. this is not the point. Obama convinced more people than McCain, despite that.

#87> well… republicans had 8 years to act, they did. now it’s somebody else’s turn, sounds fair to me. there will always be someone to cry and shout “oh my god, the end is near !”, but hey, it’s the good thing about democracy, we’ll see if people are happy in 4 years, if they aren’t they’ll elect someone else.

93 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 2:26 pm

They don’t have the 60/40 majority the need to push anything through the senate, they control it but not completely.

94 abcdefg November 5, 2008 at 2:30 pm

“I think I speak for a lot of non-white Americans in saying that sometimes the closed mindedness of the Republican party scares us.”

It doesn’t scare me. It disgusts me. I want to pulverize such people with a hammer aimed directly to their craniums — ideologically speaking, of course. Destroying Christianity, intellectually uprooting it from America’s mainstream, would be a good start.

For a real fright, however, think about America in a few generations time. We’ll have an openly atheist President of America, and perhaps he’ll be Mexican. The horror, the horror. Haha.

95 rubberseoul November 5, 2008 at 2:30 pm

Just finished watching the acceptance speech. Man, that is one suave First Nigger Elect dude, No wonder he won.
I look forward to watching his hair grey, power dim, and daughters become pregnant over the next few years.

96 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 2:32 pm

Apart from the economy, GWbush and Iraq, what lost this for McCain was that he ran a race that was against his principles and usual demeanour. When he accepted the Republican ticket the right leaning hierarchs distorted his campaign too much, he lost the middle and he incentivised the apathetic opponents of the Republicans. This could’ve been a competition from two centrists, but it didn’t end up that way because of interference with his campaign.

97 mcnut November 5, 2008 at 2:33 pm

nothing has changed
except for the fact mcain conceded gracefully (hint….hint gore, kerry and nutcase liberals) and we wont have to listen to assinine conspiracy theories for awhile

98 Wedge November 5, 2008 at 2:34 pm

This whole Obama thing is a dark plot by the Georgia Peanut Growers’ Association to make the Jimmy Carter presidency look good. Expect appeasement of psychotic murdering asshats with unpronounceable names at levels not seen since Chamberlain.

Anyway, I’d love to be proven wrong on this.

99 user-81 November 5, 2008 at 2:38 pm

Well I was wrong about several things McCain has gone down into defeat in the popular vote (and more than 2 points–shit!). I am a man of my word (a man not a gender-neutral… wtf!) so this is my last comment.

McCain gave a great congratulatory speech and Obama gave a great acceptance speech. It’s a good day to be an American. Looking back to that crisp autumn day when I made my bold bet it maybe was foolish to gamble my reputation like this but subconsciously it might be self-destructive because the reality is I think that I don’t have time to spend so much time here and I needed an exit, and I wanted to go out in a blaze! If McCain had managed a victory I would have been a legend for my bold prediction and I could baduk in that glory for a a few months before excusing myself and moving onto my real responsibilities outside of MH. Those creepy crawly creatures don’t classify themselves!

But my plan was brilliant: even with defeat I would be remembered as that bold guy who made that bold pledge even though he lost (boldly). It would still be something of legend (though not as good) but IHBB has enhanced it by suggesting on my last day that I am the notorious kushibo so I will take that as well.

IHBB asks me to publicly reveal my identity but if he means real life name (my legal name is not user-81 ;) ) that would just be stupid especially if it’s to someone whose name is probably not really iheartblueballs. Look at the professional abuse that happened to Gerry Bevers because he publicly used his real name! Curzon of Coming Anarchy has the right idea:

http://www.cominganarchy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/curzon_wedding.jpg

I could enhance the legend by standing on a table and ripping off my mask and announcing “I am Don Cushibo de la Vega Iganos!” and then whip out my rapier and with three swift strokes of my blade slice a K into IHBB’s garments (if his avatar wore any) but it’s better to leave with “Is s/he/it?” just as all the other kushibo (re)incarnations have done since 2006. But I will not because I am just a humble arachnologist and a sad interpreter, sort of a blue translator. ;)

But I am leaving (not dying) so if anyone wants to reach me then email me at userDOTeightyoneATgmailDOTcom

I bid you all farewell but I want to leave with this message: There’s more to life than the Internet and there’s more to Korea than just the Marmot’s Hole. :D

wjk, I think I’ll miss you most of all.

Palin-McCain in 2012! (I reversed them because we know he is ready to be vice president)

100 redneck hickboy November 5, 2008 at 2:40 pm

I am more sensitive than most to reverse discrimination; I have posted here and conversed everywhere about the need for whites to wake up and refuse to accept the growing tide of blatant anti-white racism in America.

As such I’ve not like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton for a long time. But I saw ol’ JEsse tearing up , and, when I think of his journey from standing next to King as he was shot, to watching the Obaminator give his victory speech, I must say it was a big moment, and I was very moved.

I’m very, very proud of America tonight. Particularly because McCain is a great man, and the American people were given, for a change, a choice between 2 fine men who offered much.

I do believe that all around the world tonight, all but the most virulent, knee-jerk Anti-Americans must take pause and admire what this means for Americans and the world. It is very, very good feeling to be proud of one’s nation out of regard for a display of its great virtue. Tonight the virtue of America truly shines.

101 slim November 5, 2008 at 2:46 pm

Blue Translator – no one this side of Pawikirogi misinterpreted the VT Massacre more wildly than him!

102 WangKon936 November 5, 2008 at 2:55 pm

So long U-81 and good luck… but you still get no HT… ;)

103 JiMong November 5, 2008 at 2:58 pm

What a day! Obama’s true color, view, and policy would clearly be revealed with his cabinet picks.

104 rog November 5, 2008 at 2:59 pm

User-81, you will be missed.
Hoju saram, what gives with an apparent foreigner passing comment on the policies of another nation, much less with such invective. Are all Australians really as crude as they say, or are you just trying to fit the sterotype?
Really, I found your comment distasteful. Are you one of those Australians that have ‘fucked’ Aboriginals, Asians and refugees? Or perhaps one that has ‘fucked’ Australia’s natural environment in the plunder of its resources for the benefit of a few. Or perhaps descendent from one of those Irish convicts transported for failing to defend their own Ireland, who subsequently went on to poison and massacre indigenous Australians in the process of dispossessing them of their land.
Today is not your day to disparage America or criticize its policies.
Rant over

105 gbevers November 5, 2008 at 2:59 pm

User81 (#99) wrote:

Looking back to that crisp autumn day when I made my bold bet it maybe was foolish to gamble my reputation like this but subconsciously it might be self-destructive because the reality is I think that I don’t have time to spend so much time here and I needed an exit, and I wanted to go out in a blaze!

As I wipe the tears from my eyes, I question whether an annonymous poster on an Internet blog really has a reputation to gamble? Besides, is it really a gamble when your reputation is not worth much? Of course, I am speaking in general terms now.

106 rubberseoul November 5, 2008 at 3:10 pm

I agree gbevers, the reputation of an anonymous poster is only of virtual worth. The value of a cyber reputation only moves into the off-line world when the commenter’s real name is given.
How many commenters on this blog use their real name? I know I don’t, but I still value my reputation as I can be held to the comments I make here, and judged as a result of them. User-81 may be anonymous, but he carried himself well here and for that he should be respected, virtually or not.
One virtue of a self banning is that it entitled user_81 to use the K word without fear of banning by the blogmaster, which would truly be a liberating experience.

107 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 3:15 pm

McNut, McCain conceded gracefully because 1) he is a man of grace 2. He believes Obama will take America down a path not too disimilar to the one he would’ve wanted 3. In the end considering the way he was forced to change by the Republicans did he even wan to win, so he could go on to be the President he did not want to be 4. To not be graceful would be to spit in the face of the public that had clearly spoken

These 4 things do not apply to Gore or Kerry, they lack the Charisma and grace of McCain, They would not ever have taken the same path as Bush 3. They were confident in what they could’ve achieved for America as opposed to what they foresaw through Bush. 4 there elections were incredibly close and somewhat questionable (since WW2 there has only been one election as close as Bush’s and that was Jimmy Carter’s). So it is understandable that would not be gracious and they did not consider they had lost through fair democratic means.

PS Does this mean that Americans overseas have to stop wearing maple leaf shirts?

PPS Congratulations US citizens Obama is an amazinf orator and someone who could effect change and lead through his presence. Cheap analogy, look at teams with inspirational captains, how they achieve more than is expected and rally more effectively when down and always seem to have something more when it is most critical.

PPSS What stocks are going to rally most with this election result? Do you think car manufacturers?

108 Iceberg November 5, 2008 at 3:31 pm

Today’s a good day.

109 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 3:33 pm

“In most cases, cloture requires the support of three-fifths of the Senate”

From Wiki, so the Dems do not have the senate majority required to avoid filibusters. Just short. Does this mean that Obama may have to agree to some pork barreling?

110 bumfromkorea November 5, 2008 at 3:38 pm

I think there are enough moderate (i.e. reasonable) Republican senators in the Senate for the Congress to be not so inefficient as it was before. I expect some sharp turn from some of the neocon tendencies our government have tainted the history with for the past 8 years, now that the Ewoks have defeated the Galactic Empire. I liked both men’s speech tonight – McCain was gracious, and Obama was humble.

@ McNut
Really, because I heard some angry/deranged shouts during the McCain’s concession speech as well. I don’t know what the hell happened to his campaign, but no politicians in their right mind would hire those idiots ever again. Rovian school of political science should permanently go out of business after this year. Thank God.

111 kimchipig November 5, 2008 at 3:41 pm

“Palin-McCain in 2012!”

Grampy McSame will be something like 77 years old in 2012 and Palin will still be an idiot.

Really it is interesting that User 81 gave such a good point of view here but wkj is still going through the three stages of electoral denial.

1. Silence. How could it be?

2. Blame. We were stabbed in the back!

3. Attack. We’ll win next time for sure.

The voters have spoken against Bushism. McSame never had a chance and ran an amateurish campaign at best.

112 SomeguyinKorea November 5, 2008 at 3:47 pm

#110,

McCain’s speech was a great one. My wife and I both agreed that some parts were meant to be taken as a slap in the face by his supporters who dislike Obama simply because he’s black.

113 SomeguyinKorea November 5, 2008 at 3:48 pm

…and his advisers who prevented him from chastising them too hard.

114 SomeguyinKorea November 5, 2008 at 3:53 pm

“I could enhance the legend by standing on a table and ripping off my mask and announcing “I am Don Cushibo de la Vega Iganos!” and then whip out my rapier and with three swift strokes of my blade slice a K into IHBB’s garments (if his avatar wore any) but it’s better to leave with “Is s/he/it?” just as all the other kushibo (re)incarnations have done since 2006.”

A rapier? I always imagined that you’d be wielding a baloney sandwich. ;)

Drop by from time to time. You’ve been great fun.

115 WangKon936 November 5, 2008 at 4:03 pm

Who the hell is “rog”?

I smell a sockpuppet.

116 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 4:18 pm

Funnily enough it may be McCain that gives Obama the supermajority required to pass the bills. I regained repect during McCain’s speech for the man, but lost more for his supporters. And they were not a mob, they were there by invite only. I am pretty certain I heard chants of “Kill Barack”. I think the ugly part of thr Republican party is becoming marginalised and shooting themselves in the foot. They tried harder to sabotage McCain’s campaign than anyone else.

I would hope McCain does not retire, as he will be influential in the Senate. I also hope that McCain is not remembered by this loss as a reflection on him, but as a reflection of the times and what came before him.

117 michael November 5, 2008 at 4:26 pm

Didn’t read this thread yet, and here’s my two won on the election: of course I’m glad McCain was defeated, although to his credit he gave a very gracious concession speech. If only he had maintained that level of class from the beginning–and didn’t select that vacant, utterly unqualified Palin.

To Mr. Carr: you’re no doubt disappointed by the results, but I enjoyed our exchanges and hope you indulge your libertarian leanings from here on :)

This was one hell of a race and I’m sooo happy it’s over. Back to the KJI deathwatch!

118 rog November 5, 2008 at 4:27 pm

Yes Wangkon, rog is a sockpuppet. I’m a 27 year old male, I like playing chess, listening to Jazz. My real name is Roger. I pledge to reveal more about my true identity if Obama is assasinated before his inauguration. If he is not assasinated, then iheartblueballs will reveal her identity.

119 rog November 5, 2008 at 4:28 pm

Yes Wangkon, rog is a sockpuppet. I’m a 27 year old male, I like playing chess, listening to Jazz. My real name is Roger. I pledge to reveal more about my true identity if Obama is assasinated before his inauguration. If he is not assasinated, then iheartblueballs will reveal her identity.
Oh, I forgot to mention that I would like to meet a girl who is funny and likes the outdoors.

120 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 4:36 pm

I guess the reason you are suspected of being a sockpuppet is your sudden appearance with great knowledge of the Canon of MH.

121 Zhang Fei November 5, 2008 at 4:43 pm

This is truly excellent. Remember how Carter nearly pulled US troops out of Korea in the 70′s? He didn’t manage to do it because the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan jerked the American public back to the reality that there was a Cold War going on. Obama will pull out of our foreign commitments, partly as a statement of principle, but mainly so he can use the cash for social programs. It’s about time Uncle Sam stopped providing military welfare to the world.

122 rog November 5, 2008 at 4:47 pm

Well, it is true. I formerly posted here under another name before I was banned, and have been lurking ever since.
Just don’t mention the K word.

123 WangKon936 November 5, 2008 at 4:49 pm

# 120,

Exactly. Being able to effectively navigate the MH through comments is a lot like giving head. A chick can never do it right the first time and if she does and claims its her first time, she is most certainly lying.

124 rog November 5, 2008 at 4:50 pm

lol, military welfare.
Is that what the kids are calling it these days.

125 Zhang Fei November 5, 2008 at 4:50 pm

I also look forward to the day Korea elects its first Chinese president. (Or has its first Chinese governor appointed from Beijing).

126 r.rac November 5, 2008 at 4:53 pm

what a day, i was at the dems party, you will see a lot it on korean media today.

whats jumping out at me at 4:50P
1) Indiana, NC, Mizzou, and Mont are still out, I cant believe Indiana is still out 8 hours after the polls closed

2)Al Franken still has a chance in Minn.

3) Chris Shays lost, the last House Repub from NE is gone

4) Ted Stevens is leading in Alaska, amazing. If he wins, you know if he wins he will be expelled from the Senate. That means Palin gets to call a special election and you know she will run. Seenator Palin?? OMFG!!!

127 rog November 5, 2008 at 5:03 pm

So I am lying now if I say I have never given head?
Do I really have to disprove such a vulgar accusation?

128 Linkd November 5, 2008 at 5:06 pm

Would someone PLEASE slap some ban-cream on that disgusting rog-rash before it spreads to another thread.

129 Robert Koehler November 5, 2008 at 5:10 pm

Rog banned. And rubberseoul, for that matter.

130 iheartblueballs November 5, 2008 at 5:12 pm

Surely there are numerous conservatives disappointed and disheartened by the second consecutive cock-whipping their party have taken in national elections…a back-to-back beating that occurs only once or twice per century. And to those people, if you’re now looking for someone to blame for the position you now find your party in, you need only to look in a fucking mirror to find the responsible party.

Your short-sighted blind faith in the current dunce-in-chief in the early part of this decade brought a couple of empty victories, and yet a whole lot of fucking long-term pain. An entire generation of young voters now view the GOP as the party of simple doofuses and easily-mocked fools…and backing Palin has only exaccerbated the problem. It’s time to grow the fuck up and quit pandering to the lowest common denominator. Time to start looking for candidates with intelligence and ideas rather than cowboy boots and snow shoes.

K*shib*/user-81, there’s a thin line between bold and stupid. Of course you put yourself on the bold side of that line, but the reality is that you were simply unable to look at the broad picture, look at all the statistics, polls, and other factors, and then reach a logical consclusion. That’s hardly bold, but it does qualify as blind and ignorant, regardless of whatever pose you choose to take on your way out the door.

131 eujin November 5, 2008 at 5:28 pm

#69 abcdefg,

Kenyan, not Nigerian. Kenya is in East Africa. Nigeria is in West Africa.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/08/26/kenya.obama/index.html

132 mcnut November 5, 2008 at 5:48 pm

ok now a black man has ascended to the most powerful job in the history of mankind

can we please end affirmative action????

this is actually a good thing al, jesse and the rest of the race baiters will have one less argument anytime there is some perceived injustice against the black community

@bum those people who said those things at mcain rallies are just as moronic as the code-pink asswipes
or the person who blew up the recruiting station in times square…also screaming kill bush and cheney
you all pick and choose your criticisms when they are on your side of the fence
there are idiots on both sides of this
as for youth thinking the right is a bunch of doofuses thats ridiculous if anything obama appealed to younger voters who were just as dumb as you claim palin is

133 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 6:06 pm

McNut when have you ever lost out on an opportunity because of affirmative action? When have you ever seen someone undeserving receive an opportunity because of affirmative action?

I know I have seen many instances where people without talent or ability have reached positions because of the oldboy’s club.

Ofcourse there are idiots on both sides of the fence, people tend to be stupid. Generally we like our leaders to be better than us. Or more importantly we need our leaders to be better than us.

The sad thing is that you look around and see injustice towards you, where as in reality it is probably just indiference.

The examples you give include no injuries, have a llok at some of the actions of people from the “right to life” brigade if you want a lesson in irony.

134 inkevitch November 5, 2008 at 6:11 pm

Also out of the ballots, all states decided against gay marriage. But interstingly Washington has approved physician assisted suicide. All the other ballots are mixed some for some against abortion, abortion limit, ban on affirmative action.

Arkansas has banned gay couples adopting.
Michigan is pro medical marijana and stem cell research.
Colorado has kept affirmative action and decided human life is not from the moment of conception.

135 wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 November 5, 2008 at 6:44 pm

America elected a modified Jesse Jackson and its version of Noh Moohyun.

All of the issues brought up by inkevitch are in a way churchy issues.

Vote against economic theory, vote against God, vote against Korea.

You must be stoked to receive what meager social welfare you would get from the govt, and the affirmative action you largely don’t qualify for and discriminates against you.

I predict a Bosnia likeness in Iraq, after irresponsible withdrawal.

Economy may recover by the end of his term, but not really due to his policies. 1st radical in a while to make nonsense arguments against free trade and taxing a few people to fund the world. In reality, Buffett might override this man’s brain, but Obama gives me the impression he’s stubborn.

McCain would have won, if the economy was good and he wasn’t looked as an iffy guy by the people who elected Bush.

136 wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 November 5, 2008 at 6:50 pm

you’re probably saying free healthcare for everyone.

there must be a good reason why Hawaii stopped it on its own.

to be seen if it will happen at all.
to be seen if the lawyer will care for tort reform or revisions to EMTALA. Things he never mentioned. Only Bush ever mentioned it. Probably because Bill Frist mentioned it to him.

137 McGenghis November 5, 2008 at 7:33 pm

Yes, free healthcare for everyone.

And premium internet access for wjk. Somewhere in the upper reaches of the Playboy subscribers’ echelon.

Free speech! Tax nonsense!

138 wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 November 5, 2008 at 7:56 pm

there is Republican victory in this election loss.

the Bush tax cuts stay for the majority of Americans.

It’s a small wonder that Obama chose to continue such a Republican, free enterprise policy like a tax cut.

it’s also a contradiction for him and it may bite him later, when he raises it for everyone else out of necessity to spend on his New Deal III.

what do Playboy subscribers pay? I think I already pay for internet. Internet is not free. Since he is a socialist, may I propose that he mandate free WiFi access for everyone in big cities? And make it illegal to password protect your own wireless signals?

Might as get something out of it.

See, wireless internet alone shows that people don’t like to share. Can’t understand.

139 Iceberg November 5, 2008 at 8:30 pm

I voted for physician-assisted suicide…

…and recommend it for one or two commenters here.

I keed, I keed.

140 ElCanguro November 5, 2008 at 9:18 pm

Change We Need …
and change we have! :)

141 Chun November 5, 2008 at 9:55 pm

This is a great, great day for America and the world.

142 Linkd November 5, 2008 at 9:57 pm

Thank god that’s over. I’m beat – think I’ll turn in early tonight. Good quick action on the troll detonator, boss. And congratulations to iheartblueballs, the clear winner this election eve. Now perhaps we’ll see if we can dial back the fixation on US politics and get on with the serious business of worrying ourselves into fits of despair over our own jobs and the world’s financial problems, and when, oh when, should we change our won into dollars. btw, total hottie at the top of asian-sirens.

143 ws1968 November 5, 2008 at 10:41 pm

Yes, goodnight Linkd, you have defended your values on this blog well by contributing toward the dispath of those that offered another voice that differed to your own beliefs. It is a not fine thing that other readers of this blog can now know that freedom of opinion can still be compromised and constrained by the same old guard of white guys.
This Obama election demonstrates why the old guard have been so reactive, so reluctant to embrace the world beyond their own experience, and so incapable of being incogniscent of this impending change. Thankfully change has come, and with it, your demise.
Conservative, imperialist, right wing Americans, your discredited ideology has been rejected by the populace of the United States.
Korea, both North and South, have a chance to embrace this opportunity to wrest the control of their nation from the capitalist West and chart their own future.
Just as the American electorate has.
Lets see what happens.

144 ws1968 November 5, 2008 at 10:43 pm

Yes, goodnight Linkd, you have defended your values on this blog well by contributing toward the dispath of those that offered another voice that differed to your own beliefs. It is a not fine thing that other readers of this blog can now know that freedom of opinion can still be compromised and constrained by the same old guard of white guys.
This Obama election demonstrates why the old guard have been so reactive, so reluctant to embrace the world beyond their own experience, and so incapable of being cogniscent of this impending change. Thankfully change has come, and with it, your demise.
Conservative, imperialist, right wing Americans, your discredited ideology has been rejected by the populace of the United States.
Korea, both North and South, have a chance to embrace this opportunity to wrest the control of their nation from the capitalist West and chart their own future.
Just as the American electorate has.
Lets see what happens.

145 a-letheia November 5, 2008 at 10:45 pm

A Wonderful day!

146 ws1968 November 5, 2008 at 10:51 pm

In the tradition of kushibo, swlee, Mizar5 and user81, I am signing off.

147 ws1968 November 5, 2008 at 10:53 pm

alethia long time no see. ㅋㅋ

148 a-letheia November 5, 2008 at 10:59 pm

ws1968: “I can’t remember the last time I actually felt proud to be an American.”

Boy, I’ll say…

149 SomeguyinKorea November 5, 2008 at 11:17 pm

“# 120,

Exactly. Being able to effectively navigate the MH through comments is a lot like giving head. A chick can never do it right the first time and if she does and claims its her first time, she is most certainly lying.”

Sheesh. You should change you nick to WackingOff24/7.

150 skindleshanks November 5, 2008 at 11:53 pm

I know this is off-topic (but it DID say Open Thread), but I’m surprised there is no mention of today’s opening of beef imports from Migukistan’s neighbor and bastion of (minority) right-wing rule to the north, Canada.
It’s good news a bit too late for my cattle-farming brother and friends back home.
Surely someone is burning maple leaves in protest?

151 skindleshanks November 5, 2008 at 11:55 pm
152 redneck hickboy November 6, 2008 at 12:27 am

133 Inkevitch:

I’ve seen direct negative impacts of affirmative action on deserving whites. My brother is a Summa Cum Laude graduate at the Gonzaga’s school of electrical engineering. There were black students in the program who did not deserve to be there. They did not work hard to earn their way after getting in on the cheap or free.

They coasted (only about 4-5 people I believe, and there was a shining exception) along with Cs while my brother and his little study group graduated at or near 4.0.

The black students TO A PERSON received and took more lucrative job offers after graduation than any of the top 10-20 students in the class.

I also saw affirmative action in the Bush whitehouse. They allowed Bush to be president. But who’s counting

BUSH, YOU SUNNAVABITCH GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!!

153 Robert Koehler November 6, 2008 at 12:39 am

Well, I’ve guess I have something to celebrate today after all — the Islanders beat the Rangers 2—1.

Regarding Migukistan’s neighbour, the bastion of right-wing rule to the north: This leads us to an interesting question. If lefties can always talk about running away to Canada following Republican victories, where can despondent right wingers go? Alberta? We’d still have to leave our guns at the border. Ditto Japan… not to mention the airlines might look askance at bringing the shotguns on board. France, Germany, Italy, and probably soon Britain are run by the right, but the mainstream European right is still further left than anything the Obama—Pelosi—Reid triumvirate is likely to throw at us. We’re trapped, I tell ‘ya. Trapped!

154 KrZ November 6, 2008 at 1:39 am

A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose actual point of view is opposed to the one that the user’s sockpuppet claims to hold. The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group’s actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed “concerns”. The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group.

155 slim November 6, 2008 at 2:18 am

While celebrating Obama or the post-Bush era, Americans forget at their peril just how out of their depth the Pelosi and Reid team are, as we face a point when there will be few checks on their powers. I (almost) want to say that they make South Korean politicians look competent and wise.

156 kimchipig November 6, 2008 at 3:12 am

Slim, had Bushism shown even the slightest measure of restraint, it would not have been so decisively defeated at the polls.

157 Zonath November 6, 2008 at 3:23 am

Alberta? We’d still have to leave our guns at the border.

Really? Had no idea that Canada had implemented a ban on the import of personal firearms. Strangely enough, the website of the Canadian Firearms Program apparently still indicates that you can bring most of them in. So please, do not let any perceived ban on the importation or acquisition of firearms stop you or any other conservative from moving to our friendly neighbor to the north… I’m pretty sure you can be a gun nut up there, too. ;)

158 slim November 6, 2008 at 3:24 am

Nothing you can say about “Bushism” (even if that were relevant here) has any bearing on what Pelosi-Reid will do in the future.

159 Iceberg November 6, 2008 at 5:45 am

If lefties can always talk about running away to Canada following Republican victories, where can despondent right wingers go?

Alaska.

160 kimchipig November 6, 2008 at 6:37 am

Well, Slim, democracy has always been a pesky thing for Bushites. Truth is, you got whipped.

161 CactusMcHarris November 6, 2008 at 7:52 am

#153,

Alberta’s good, but you also might consider a little to the northwest – the Yukon is where it’s at.

If I understand correctly, it’s fairly easy to bring in a weapon for hunting animals. However, the Canadians don’t want us (or anyone else) bringing in our beloved handguns.

162 slim November 6, 2008 at 8:48 am

Dude or pig or whatever you wish to be called: You’re introducing and compounding errors and distortions into what should have been a simple warning about the risks of the current leadership of Congress.

-I am not a Bushie and Bushism was not on too many informed voters minds yesterday, it having been buried in the 2006 mid-terms if not earlier and disowned by the McCain camp.

-As a registered independent in Washington, DC (no Congress or Senate votes) who pushed the button for Obama, I did not get “whipped” at all.

I’ll stop before I give you more chances to screw up.

163 Sonagi November 6, 2008 at 10:12 am

While celebrating Obama or the post-Bush era, Americans forget at their peril just how out of their depth the Pelosi and Reid team are, as we face a point when there will be few checks on their powers.

I share your concern that eight years of Republicans Gone Wild may be followed by Democrats Gone Wild. Interim elections are a formative assessment on the party in power. The Democrats should pay better heed in 2010 than the Republicans did in 2006.

164 iheartblueballs November 6, 2008 at 2:46 pm

Deep Thought:

Empty suit is too kind. Barack is a scumbag, and he’ll be lucky to get 135 electoral votes this fall in an election that by all rights belongs to the Democratic Party. Congratulations, Democrats, you’ve done it again!

More Deep Thought:

I think Sarah Palin was and is a good pick for Vice President, and look forward to voting for her for President someday.

Related Deep Thought:

I wish I could have told you more at the time but all of it was put off the record until after the election. There was great concern in the McCain campaign that Sarah Palin lack the degree of knowledgeability necessary to be a running mate, a vice president, and a heartbeat away from the presidency. We’re told by folks that she didn’t know what countries that were in NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement, that being the Canada, the US, and Mexico. We’re told she didn’t understand that Africa was a continent rather than a country just in itself … a whole host of questions that caused serious problems about her knowledgeability.

Final Deep Thought:

NEWSWEEK has also learned that Palin’s shopping spree at high-end department stores was more extensive than previously reported. While publicly supporting Palin, McCain’s top advisers privately fumed at what they regarded as her outrageous profligacy. One senior aide said that Nicolle Wallace had told Palin to buy three suits for the convention and hire a stylist. But instead, the vice presidential nominee began buying for herself and her family—clothes and accessories from top stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus. According to two knowledgeable sources, a vast majority of the clothes were bought by a wealthy donor, who was shocked when he got the bill. Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the clothes on their credit cards. The McCain campaign found out last week when the aides sought reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent “tens of thousands” more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000 to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the shopping spree as “Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast,” and said the truth will eventually come out when the Republican Party audits. its books.

165 wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 November 7, 2008 at 11:37 am

When I saw Powell mention he was emotionally unstable watching Obama’s victory, I pretty much confirmed his support for Obama was clearly race based.

I mean, would Joe Liebermann be shedding tears if McCain had won?

People don’t like to talk about race, but I do.

Listening to radio, it seems the African American community is stoked that Obama had one. One caller in the East Coast said the whites can now report to the cotton field tomorrow morning. The radio host said to calm down and blew it off as nonsense.

There is indeed significance in his victory that a non-white person became President. But, race was never any of my concern. Policy was. Note, Alan Keyes is virtually ignored by the same community. And he’s full black, not half.

I did not quite understand, however, how Obama can rival God in the hearts, minds, and souls of African Americans. It’s obvious. The white Americans have done documented atrocities against these people for 2 centuries. In that respect, they deserve to celebrate.

I would recommend that people like Bobby Jindal run to dethrone Obama. Jindal is actually more like what immigrant Koreans or their progeny can relate with.

Oh, just for sprinkles on the donut, it seems Obama called Japan, but did not call South Korea, in his short lists of who to call asap.

stupid gyops. Just watch. No FTA. Pro North Korea, nothing tangiblely good for Korea from the White House. Actually, he is most likely to pull out all US 8th army and 2nd Division troops from Korea in the next 4 years. More than anyone.

166 wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 November 7, 2008 at 11:46 am

there have been many African American mayors in US cities. I think only a handful have done a good job. Tom Bradley of Los Angeles. Maybe Nutter of Philadelphia. Maybe the Atlanta mayor.

Sharpe James of Newark. Horrendous.

Kilpatrick of Detroit. Atrocious. Comedy.

Curiously many House of Rep members, but no Senators, except Obama. Obama himself passed no law of any significance as Jr. Senator.

I wish him good luck and sincerely hope he does an okay job, and exercises the logic to curb the lawyers of America. He’s pretty much the same as Kim Daejung was, in terms of positioning, significance, if you’d like to parallel.

let me just ask.

is the world a better place if the US had its first ever Korean American woman as President?

Didn’t think so.

167 wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 November 7, 2008 at 11:47 am

the former mayor of New York. Common knowledge he was a racist and incompetent, turning the city into crime hole. That’s why Rudy shined.

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