Really, Really Smart Foreigners Becoming Koreans

by Robert Koehler on October 28, 2008

in Ministry of Barbarian Affairs

Yonhap reports on the growing number of highly-educated, “elite” barbarians becoming Korean citizens.

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Clever Turtles
October 28, 2008 at 6:21 pm

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1 Darth Babaganoosh October 28, 2008 at 8:12 pm

A waste of time. Even with their newly minted citizen’s ID number, they will still be big-nose barbarians.

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2 anunsaram October 28, 2008 at 9:46 pm

To aspire to become a Korean citizen one must fit into 2 extremely limited categories.

#1 Come from a third world, shit-hole country.

#2 A complete fucking chump.

( Hey J.J. I guess that puts you in #2 )

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3 KrZ October 28, 2008 at 10:38 pm

You’d have to be a chump to want to pay the lowest personal income taxes in the world and live in a country with an extremely low crime rate.

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4 Granfalloon October 29, 2008 at 7:33 am

I would think that this is a natural extension of fifteen years of extensive ESL recruitment. The chances that any particular barbarian will want to become lifetime residents increases with each year they stay, and at least SOME of those will want full citizenship. The numbers were bound to pan out sometime.

Still, I find it hard to believe that the number of “elite” barbarians seeking citizenship is anywhere near the number of “less-than-elite” purchased brides seeking citizenship. I would think citizenship is more important to the latter group than the former. Should admit, though, I’m basing this on personal experience: most, if not all, of my highly-educated, life-term friends have no interest in citizenship.

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5 thekorean October 29, 2008 at 7:42 am

Still, I find it hard to believe that the number of “elite” barbarians seeking citizenship is anywhere near the number of “less-than-elite” purchased brides seeking citizenship.

Why does that matter? Not trying to pick a fight here. You seem like a reasonable fellow, so just curious why that is a consideration.

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6 Granfalloon October 29, 2008 at 11:13 am

@thekorean:
Actually, I’m glad you brought this up. I would like some feedback about the article from someone who can pick up on the nuances of the language. I’m not confident enough in my Korean to think that I have the whole story.

That said, what I DID read seemed to imply that the people seeking Korean citizenship were the smarter, “elite” foreigners. The article, even just the title, implies that those seeking citizenship are smarter (or at least better-educated) than those who aren’t. And that strikes me as Han-promotional egotism, and inaccurate to boot. I find such things offensive.

However, I would love to hear from someone with both better Korean and better insight into Korean culture. Please chastise me if I am in error.

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7 user-81 October 29, 2008 at 11:19 am

The article, even just the title, implies that those seeking citizenship are smarter (or at least better-educated) than those who aren’t.

Or… some of those seeking citizenship now are “elite” but in the past there were few of these people seeking citizenship.

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8 Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog) October 29, 2008 at 12:38 pm

Perhaps I’m not as elite as the others so my opinion may not matter, but it has always struck me as wrong that Korea requires its naturalizing citizens to take a “Korean” name subject to the whims of some official, while natural-born Korean citizens can be given any name their parents choose to stick them with.

Especially since forcing Koreans to take Japanese names is often cited as one of the crimes of a cruel Japanese colonial regime, for Korea to adopt the same position seems inappropriate to me. (But not surprising! Rights are for me, but not for thee…)

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9 user-81 October 29, 2008 at 12:43 pm

Especially since forcing Koreans to take Japanese names is often cited as one of the crimes of a cruel Japanese colonial regime, for Korea to adopt the same position seems inappropriate to me. (But not surprising! Rights are for me, but not for thee…)

A big difference is that one chooses to be naturalized Korean but Koreans as a whole were forced to be Japanese.

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10 Darth Babaganoosh October 29, 2008 at 12:46 pm

@3: “…and a lifetime of being treated as a second- or third-class citizen; never to be treated as an equal.”

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11 Jewook October 29, 2008 at 1:49 pm

#6

The first sentence seems to summarize the rest of the article. It is just saying that the numbers of highly educated foreigners who want citizenship is increasing. Anyway most Koreans know that the number of foreigners with limited education who want citizenship far outweigh those that are highly educated. Of course if you must read between the lines, the writer is implying that Korea is a damn good place to live.

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12 Granfalloon October 29, 2008 at 1:54 pm

Thank you Jewook.

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13 SomeguyinKorea October 29, 2008 at 2:31 pm

#11,

Maybe people should stop seeing South East Asian workers as uneducated cheap labour. Many of the ones I have met have in fact graduated from college or university. Most of the ones I spoke to came to Korea in order to save up money to start their own businesses back home.

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14 Jewook October 29, 2008 at 4:27 pm

#13

Yea, stereotypical thinking is never good, but people keep on doing it. I think usually because they are from what people consider less economically developed countries.

Actually I met this Peruvian guy once who was a college graduate. He had originally come to do menial labor, but he was smart fellow. He switched over to tutoring Spanish to college students pretty quickly.

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