Fingernail Biting in Seoul . . .

by R. Elgin on October 17, 2008

Per the Washington Post — South Korea’s economy, the fourth-largest in Asia, has emerged as the most vulnerable in the region.  The country’s troubled currency, the won, fell 9.7 percent, its biggest one-day percentage decline since the 1997 Asian financial crisis. Stocks in Seoul slid 9.44 percent.  Bloomberg’s report is here.
Meanwhile, President Lee is pushing the idea of putting together a new global organization to handle such economic threats as is plaguing the world markets currently.

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1 WangKon936 October 17, 2008 at 1:36 am

LMB is pushing this the hardest because Korea is the most vulnerable in Asia, at this point, to a collapse in its currency.

Back in 1998, Korea had to get a bailout from the IMF, which had a lot of board members in Western, developed countries. These countries asked for a lot of structural changes from Korea in order to be able to get the funds. Korea had no choice to comply, even if it meant it had to put itself in a severe recession to do so.

Personally, I believe that the won will bend, but it won’t break. However, having a regional lender of last resort who won’t require you to gut your economy to save it will help LMB sleep at night.

2 cm October 17, 2008 at 1:40 am

This currency devaluation just doesn’t make any sense to me. Korea’s economy was in good relative shape before the panic.

3 WangKon936 October 17, 2008 at 1:44 am

“This currency devaluation just doesn’t make any sense to me.”

cm,

Please reread this.

Ask questions if there are things you don’t understand.

The devaluation of the won DOES make sense if you look at it from the right perspective.

4 user-81 October 17, 2008 at 2:59 am

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I don’t think any of those will help the Korean won either.

And Wangkon in hindsight I think the “contagion” you say isn’t here now will be just the string of bad economic news from America. Iceland shouldn’t have collapsed and it did. Why not Korea?

5 cm October 17, 2008 at 3:50 am

The more important question being is, is the Korean government still intervening and using up the foreign reserves to beef up the WON?

6 KrZ October 17, 2008 at 4:03 am

Any idea how much of the reserves they’ve burned through? $15b?

7 cm October 17, 2008 at 4:22 am

I’d say about 30 to 40 billion the last several months.

They have to stop doing it. It’s foolish to continue this at this point. Using up the reserves also creates bad publicity, exasperating the situation.

The way the new government is mishandling this crisis.. I was wrong to think they were a better government than the old one. Too bad.

8 Iceberg October 17, 2008 at 5:43 am

The beginning of the Bloomberg piece is a little confusing. It’s dated October 16, yet it says that “the won fell 9.7 percent to 1,373 per dollar as of the 3 p.m. close.”

That was last week’s number. The Korean economy may very well implode and the won may collapse, but as I write this it’s trading at 1205 to the dollar.

9 KrZ October 17, 2008 at 5:45 am

1 U.S. dollar = 1 369.86301 South Korean won

As I write this it’s at 1,369.83

10 Iceberg October 17, 2008 at 5:53 am

Hmm. I’m looking at XE.com’s live rates. What are you looking at?

11 KrZ October 17, 2008 at 5:56 am

Google and x-rates. Weird. Wonder why they’re different.

12 Iceberg October 17, 2008 at 5:58 am

This is bizarre. I just googled the won and you’re right…the won did crash. (Cut me some slack, I had just woken up when I first posted. :-)

13 Iceberg October 17, 2008 at 5:58 am

But then again…XE.com does say 1205.

14 Iceberg October 17, 2008 at 6:06 am

Just looked at Yahoo’s currency converter. It lists the won at 1369.7, yet on its graph it has it at around 1200.

Crazy.

15 iwshim October 17, 2008 at 8:56 am

The won is easy to explain -

How can the won be worth anything if the government spends it on everything?

The government gives won to every organization in this country.
The N. Koreans get dollars.
The government is hostile to foreign investment.

It is not money anymore, it is paper.

Forget being paid in dollars, ask for bullion.

16 cmm October 17, 2008 at 9:22 am

I noticed this large discrepancy in diffrent sites’ exchange rates yesterday also, and decided to figure out which was right. So I went to a Korean bank website and checked their rates, since that’s what matters, not what’s on the portal sites. Just checked the KEB page and it has the rate at about 1 USD = 1330 KRW.

17 KrZ October 17, 2008 at 9:26 am

http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/currency-rates/

This page has live tables for Dollar to Asia-Pacific currencies. You can see the won at 1319 right now.

18 Linkd October 17, 2008 at 10:26 am

Random:

Risk pricing:

In a further sign of the growing stress in the financial system, the cost of protecting the country’s external debt from default rose sharply.

Five-year credit default swap contracts rose by more than 40 basis points yesterday to 330, according to Bloomberg.

The price, which means it costs $330,000 a year to protect $10m in debt, has almost quadrupled since its recent low of about 86 basis points at the end of July. By contrast, Japanese CDS prices have held steady over the period at below 35bp.

Liquidity:

South Korea’s current-account deficit widened to a record $4.71 billion in August and foreign-exchange reserves fell in each of the past six months as authorities sought to stem the won’s drop and provide liquidity to the financial system.

The won has plunged 30 percent against the dollar this year, the worst-performing Asian currency.

South Korea’s lenders have $235.3 billion of foreign- currency liabilities, according to the Financial Supervisory Service.

“Korea is one of the few banking systems in Asia where domestic deposits are insufficient to fund loans,” Moody’s Investors Service said in a report on Oct. 16.

That’s forced them to rely on the wholesale market for about 44 percent of their total funding, according to Moody’s. International markets account for as much as 12 percent of funding for the banks, the ratings company said.

19 KrZ October 17, 2008 at 10:36 am

Ooh… Won’s up to 1360 again and still going strong, AUD is taking a beating too.

20 cm October 17, 2008 at 10:57 am

From english.chosun.com

Korea Sinking? Not Just Yet

The Financial Times ran a special report on Tuesday entitled “That Sinking Feeling” about Korea’s economic crisis. “Like the U.S., its consumers and companies have taken on too much debt,” it said. “Korea’s problems look scarily familiar.” The FT said Korean banks, like their counterparts in the U.S. and U.K., are stuck “between a rock and a hard place” as global credit markets remain clammed up. “Korea has some $175 billion in external short-term debt that has to be rolled over by the end of next June” that keeps “Korean policymakers sweating at night.” The FT said the situation was becoming more difficult since the public does not trust the ability of the government. Those who read the article probably felt as if another financial crisis was looming over Korea.

Parts of the FT article are accurate and worthy of consideration by Korean government officials. But there are also areas that are either exaggerated or untrue and need to be corrected before a global audience. It is a good point that Korea ranks sixth in the world in terms of the size of its foreign currency reserves but could end up seeing that large reserve depleted if the government repeats expensive moves to stem the fall of the won, as it did recently by unloading $40 billion into the forex market.

But there are many areas in the article that are not balanced, such as exaggerating the ratio of deposits against outstanding loans at Korean banks as being 124 percent, when it is actually 103 percent, while excluding facts such as Korea’s corporate debt-to-equity ratio has fallen to 93 percent from 423 percent in 1997. Shipbuilders sell dollars to banks in advance before they get them from their customers. These deals are written up as short-term debt in the books, but they do not carry risks in terms of serviceability. Yet the FT ignores the fact that these deals account for between $60 to $70 billion out of Korea’s short-term liabilities.

As its conclusion, the article says most experts are confident that Korea’s economic fundamentals are sound enough to avoid an Icelandic collapse, but presents hardly any evidence to support that, even though it diligently points out or exaggerates each factor that is raising fears. Other than a special report in Iceland, Korea is the only other country the FT focused on singly in its analysis page.

On Oct. 9, the Wall Street Journal ran an article entitled “Is South Korea Asia’s Iceland?” The WSJ spent more than half of that article saying the risks were small in Korea, but reported that it is no. 1 in the region in terms of its current account deficit and the weakened state of its financial institutions. The financial wire service Dow Jones reported on Oct. 8 that credit ratings agency Fitch said Korea’s banking sector was showing signs of default. But the report by Fitch was merely pointing out, theoretically, that if the liquidity crunch were to spread to defaults, then Korea’s sovereign rating could be affected. The International Herald Tribune on Oct. 8 reported Korean banks faced a crisis after borrowing dollars and extending loans in won. But Korea has completely separate systems of raising dollar and won funds and operates them separately as well.

The reason why such reports continue is because we have been lazy in our efforts to convey the facts about our economy to the international media accurately, even though we were quick to express our displeasure with certain types of coverage. There are no regular briefings for the foreign press, and we rarely offer background briefings even though our economy is the 13th largest in the world and, more importantly, fully exposed to international economic conditions. Inaccurate reports happen because we do not provide accurate information. These reports are then being spread across the world as other media cite them. The day after the FT article was published, Hong Kong dailies carried it word for word, so rumors of an economic crisis in Korea were reproduced and retransmitted. The reason behind the global financial crisis is a lack of confidence. The government must no longer sit idle while confidence in our economy is being eroded.

21 Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog) October 17, 2008 at 12:13 pm

That Chosun Ilbo editorial is worrisome, because it amounts to a claim of “misunderstanding”. “Misunderstanding”, of course, is the Korean-language equivalent of an attempt at These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.

22 cm October 17, 2008 at 1:27 pm

You probably aren’t aware of yesterday’s article in the Korean language section of the Chosun Ilbo. They absolutely shredded the Financial Times and spit it out. They mentioned Britain’s 10 Trillion Dollar foreign debt to Korea’s 400 billion dollar debt. The astronomical per capita debt to GNP ratio of Britain’s economy compared to South Korea’s, Britain’s 20 year account/trade deficits versus Korea’s deficit this year, Britain’s measly 70 billion dollar reserve versus Korea’s 240 billion. And the Chosun finishes up with a “you should be worried about yourself, instead of pointing fingers at others”.

In another article in the Chosun, they mention this article from International Herald Tribune October 14:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/14/opinion/edbowring.php

23 Sperwer October 17, 2008 at 1:54 pm

“Misunderstanding”, of course, is the Korean-language equivalent of an ATTEMPT at “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.”

LOL

24 user-81 October 17, 2008 at 4:51 pm

“You misunderstand us” and a tu quoque argument. Is that all you got, cm? ;)

Really, Brendon Carr, I think it is not “misunderstanding” but miscalculation if what the Chosun Ilbo says is true. Thanks cm.

25 eujin October 17, 2008 at 5:59 pm

Linkd,

Do you know of anywhere that gives 5-year CDS spreads for free? End of day prices would be fine. It would be good to see the historical evolution. I don’t know if they get put on Bloomberg these days (and I don’t have access to Bloomberg).

I tried to back out a probability for the five-year rate that you quoted, by turning the five-year rate into a one year rate. It’s cheating really since one really ought to see a bit more of the full curve. Do you know what a reasonable recovery rate estimate would be? Usually for sovereigns it’s much higher than for corporates. 80% would be my guess but it’s a total guess.

26 Linkd October 17, 2008 at 6:22 pm

Over my head, eugin, sorry. I admire this stuff from a distance, I don’t make my living off it. WangKon?

aleablog.com links to creditfixings.com though, to give Lehman recovery rates (now around 8 or 9). I suppose Korea’s not in that kind of trouble. Maybe browse their site – it’s mostly Greek to me.

27 redneck hickboy October 17, 2008 at 6:40 pm

“Misunderstanding”, of course, is the Korean-language equivalent of an ATTEMPT at “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.”

LOL

Ditto… that was hilarious.

28 Sperwer October 17, 2008 at 6:59 pm

Re #22: Do you have a link for that Chosun article, CM? TIA

29 cm October 17, 2008 at 7:32 pm

It’s here

http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2008/10/15/2008101501317.html

It looks like they weren’t too happy with various articles about Korea’s imminent failure appearing in FT.com and The Times, stretching back to September.

I’m not going to translate everything, but basically the article is saying Britain has $10 trillion dollar debt, with 75% being short term or about $7.5 trillion dollars – compared to South Korea’s $175 billion short term debt. Britain’s foreign reserves is only 72 billion dollars, compared to South Korea’s 240 billion – 1% foreign reserves to debt ratio – once again not even close to Korea’s, 75%. Article also mentions Britain’s chronic trade deficit since 1985, including $115 billion dollars – compared to Korea’s trade deficit of $4 billion.

Couple of things, before I read this article, I never knew how indebted Britain was. Second, I couldn’t help noticing the article’s pot shots, dripping with bitter sarcasm.

30 eujin October 17, 2008 at 7:47 pm

Should look at how much of UK debt is pound denominated. Borrowing money in a currency you control is a lot better than borrowing money in someone else’s currency. It’s not really meaningful to just covert everything to dollars and add it up.

31 captbbq October 17, 2008 at 8:28 pm

Exchange rates are all over the place. I tried to dump a load of dollars into a dollar account and transfer to a won account in order to take advantage of the transfer exchange rate rather than the simple buying exchange rate had I just tried to dump it straight into a Korea currency account.

The woman at the bank confirmed that I could get a 15 won per dollar better that way but I would need my bank book(I hate those damn things). Buy the time I was able to get it, within about 40 minutes, the rate had dropped by a full 36 won per dollar.

I suppose it was the finance ministry intervening again, they always seem to do that at the end of the day.

32 Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog) October 17, 2008 at 9:26 pm

And the Chosun finishes up with a “you should be worried about yourself, instead of pointing fingers at others”.

Apparently the Chosun is unfamiliar with this delightful Korean expression, and its ironic implications about the outrage in its editorial:

똥 묻은 개가 겨 묻은 개 나무란다.

33 babarian. October 17, 2008 at 9:43 pm

That $10 trillion for UK is non-pound denominated as you can see here.

If you think UK is vulnerable, you haven’t seen Ireland which has almost $2 trillion of foreign currency debt at the end of last year. I have been wondering how that little country with a population of about 4 million was able to turn itself from the basket economy of Europe to the top league in just over 15 years or so.

US also has been running current account deficit every single year since about 1983, while Korea had been running current account surplus for about 8 consecutive years until last year, and is likely to get back to surplus from next year, considering Korea is one of the most innovative countries along with Japan and Germany.

34 cm October 17, 2008 at 9:44 pm

Moody’s and S&P decided to hold Korea’s sovereign credit rating.

” S&P reaffirms sovereign credit ratings on S. Korea

Standard & Poor’s (S&P) Ratings Services Friday reaffirmed its sovereign credit ratings on South Korea, citing the nation’s sound fiscal and external positions, Yonhap News Agency reported.

The global rating appraiser said in an e-mail statement that it has decided to keep its foreign- and local-currency long-term sovereign credit ratings on South Korea at “A” and “A+,” respectively. The outlook on the long-term ratings is stable, it added.

“The sovereign credit ratings on Korea are supported by its dynamic economy, sound fiscal position, and sound external position,” S&P said in the statement.

Still, the appraiser underscored difficulties confronting South Korea, saying that the Korean financial system has faced “intensifying pressures.”

The move comes on the heels of a statement by Moody’s Investors Service saying it has maintained its A2 “stable” outlook for South Korea’s government-issued bonds based on the country’s economic resilience.

S&P said that South Korean banks are facing “increasing difficulty” in refinancing foreign currency requirements with costs growing for wholesale funding and tightening borrowing conditions for foreign currency.

Such tough conditions will likely be prolonged, it noted, adding that Korea’s financial sector will be negatively affected by the ongoing economic turmoil, which many fear will send the global economy into a recession.

“Nevertheless, we anticipate that decisive policy measures will be put in place to ease domestic and foreign liquidity conditions,” said the appraiser. “We expect the Korean government to have the financial capacity to implement measures of sufficient strength to limit deterioration in the banks’ financial performance.”

2008.10.17″

35 babarian. October 17, 2008 at 9:46 pm
36 Wedge October 18, 2008 at 12:41 am

Babarian: You do know your name is spelled incorrectly, right? Unless you are a fan of the elephant Babar, of course, which you denied before.

37 user-81 October 18, 2008 at 4:35 am

Is it supposed to be barbarian or Bavarian?

38 babarian. October 18, 2008 at 6:01 am

Yes, it was meant to be barbarian, but I lost password for it, and I reapplied without r.

39 KrZ October 18, 2008 at 7:22 am

You can change your nick back to barbarian, there’s nothing against nick collision.

40 Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog) October 18, 2008 at 10:11 am

You can change your nick back to barbarian, there’s nothing against nick collision.

That’s what you say. As a Missouri Tiger fan, I hate that guy.

41 eujin October 18, 2008 at 1:17 pm

Linkd,

Thanks for the link. 10% recovery for Lehman’s, that is outstanding. Didn’t they file for chapter 11 with $639bn in assets and $613bn in debt? Do they just make these numbers up? Outstanding.

Babarian,

I think we’re talking about different things. I’ll grant you’re probably talking about the same number as the Chosun Ilbo. The $10 trillion number for the UK on Wikipedia includes all the private debt. That’s not serviceable by the government, just by the economy. As far as I know the IMF doesn’t bail-out private debt. Countries usually don’t hold foreign reserves to cover private debt.

The net public debt of the UK Government is closer to $1 trillion depending on how you account for (long-term) pension liabilities and the like. The official number given by the UK Statistical Office is 632.7 billion pounds.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=206&Pos=2&ColRank=2&Rank=672

This includes the Northern Rock bailout, but probably not all the other bailouts that have been going on (I lose count). But it also includes all debt owed in UK Sterling denominated treasuries, just like the US number includes all the dollar denominated stuff. Most of the debt that Northern Rock owes is sterling denominated, for example. If you desperately want to pay that off, you need only call the printers (if you’re the UK government).

I don’t know why the CIA Factbook definition mentions “debt repayable in foreign currency”. Maybe it’s because people don’t care how much money Bhutan owes in ngultrums. Unless of course you think the US owes 12 trillion dollars (13.7 trillion by Sept 30, 2008) in Euros, Yen, Yuan and the like, on top of all the shit they owe in dollars.

The “external debt” number quoted on the CIA World Factbook (that Wikipedia uses) supposedly includes both public and private debt of all maturities. The number they have for South Korea, $220bn, is less than the $260bn number WangKon was quoting a couple of days ago (via Forbes and Citigroup Hong Kong) for the short-term liabilities of the Korean Government alone. I expect WangKon was just trying to scare us, but those were his numbers.

http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/10/10/the-incredible-shrinking-won/

Don’t get me wrong. I’m long Korea and don’t have the ability or inclination to get out. If the Chosun Ilbo wants to put on a “buy Korea, sell UK, pick-up 300” trade then good luck to them.

42 R. Elgin October 18, 2008 at 11:01 pm

The finance Ministry is going to inject 30 billion USD, into the Korean market so as to help out. (article here). The money will be available through the state-run Korea Exim Bank.

43 baduk October 19, 2008 at 11:14 am

I believe a lot money in Korea is actually the Japanese money. They use a “dummy”, a Korean front, to put money in Korean society. Ms.Choi may have been one.

Korean newspapers once in a while run Yakuza rings running loan-shark business in Korea. I believe this goes into banking business.

When foreigners, the Japanese, start withdrawing their money from banks all at once, won goes down. And, nobody knows why.

Korean banks are hemorraging from inside. I believe they bought too much toxic CDOs from the States. They lost 60%-80% of their values. No Korean banks are coming out to say how much money they lost.

LMB is quickly spreading dollar to the banks.

The good thing about alll this is that Korean industries will be more competitive with Won tanking. More Hundais, Kias, Samsungs to sell.

This may be a blessing in disguise.

44 R. Elgin October 19, 2008 at 9:42 pm

Per the NY Times

. . .The government said it will provide up to $100 billion to secure banks’ maturing foreign currency debt for three years on loans taken out from Oct. 20 this year until June 30, 2009.

but

. . . The government and Bank of Korea will also provide additional liquidity equivalent to $30 billion to the banking sector by utilizing foreign exchange reserves, the three officials said in a statement.

The measures require approval by the National Assembly. Until that can be secured, either the Korea Development Bank or Korea Eximbank will provide the guarantees beginning Monday, they said.

I hope the assembly will work this out quickly but considering the first part of the year and their performance therein, such leaves me wondering just what will happen. I hope there will be no issues involving who receives this money as well.

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