What? Cops taking bribes from pimps?
What’s this world coming to?
With Dongdaemun Police cracking down on the sex industry in Jangan-dong, one local pimp released parts of his ledger to the media, namely, the parts with the names of cops he payed off. The officers named in the ledger regularly received payments of 5 million—7 million won.
The pimp’s list recorded the real names of the cops and when and where the bribes were paid. For instance, a cop from the women and youth division had received a total of 6 million won over several meetings in restaurants, the street and parks beginning last year. Six cops were named in the list, although their names were erased in the part released to the media.
Local pimps are saying the list is just the top of the iceberg — the bribes were given to keep the cops off their backs, but if pimps refused to pay, the cops would bust the place the next day. Or so said the pimps, who deny that the leaking of the ledger was a group decision, but also say with cops taking money, it was ridiculous that they’d continue in their crackdown.
Police, meanwhile, say that while last names were written in the released list, they’ve yet to confirm any real names. If they discover something in their investigations, however, they will sternly punish the officers involved.
You can stop laughing now.
Oh, and regardless of the release of the list, the crackdown will continue. In fact, they’re bringing in the heavy hitters, with plans to deploy five of Seoul Metro Police’s eight recently created mobile task forces (usually tasked with putting down riots) in eradicating prostitution.
Marmot’s Note: As Notlob and Gord Sellar pointed out in my previous post on this issue, prostitution may very well be surrounded by crime and violence, but the ethical issue of designating a perfectly legal activity (if performed for free) illegal if performed for money aside, I fail to see how anything other than legalizing it will solve the associated issues. Anyway, according to the Kyunghyang Shinmun, a lot of the businesses are simply relocating to Gangnan — perfectly predictable, given how everyone likes a good handjob, and it’s not easy to find jobs paying 10 million won a month, as the girls who work in such establishments supposedly make.
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Chung Seon-hee is back on the market! w00t!
dude, that is so messed up.
They got paid only in cash?? Come now.
I’m pretty sure there were some “in lieu of pay” activities going on as well.
As much as it’s messed up that the Korean public don’t respect the law enforcement, the law enforcement isn’t exactly helping themselves in the public trust department.
$10k a month just for handjobs? Where do I sign up?
The women who make $10K a month do more than handjobs.
That’s no joke, Marmot - rumor has it that they’re gonna cut their bribes in half.
awesome title!
I don’t know Sonagi, 북창동 is $500 an hour for 2 girls and a bottle o’ whiskey, and all you get in the end is a handjob with a banging techno soundtrack. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
Police are able to shake down pimps and hookers for the same reason they are able to shake down drug dealers - because what the pimps and hookers are doing is illegal, and when the police steal from them they are unable to report it for that reason.
Here in Sydney prostitution was legalized for that reason. The legalization went a long way to fighting corruption in the police force. Legalization would have the same effect in Korea.
I have also met women that are grateful for the existence of prostitutes. They think it reduces the incidence of rape.
Police corruption aside — that is pathetic, though also utterly unsurprising — I take issue with this:
Plenty of things are perfectly legal in one context, and illegal in another. For good reason.
Why not, indeed, this (relatively germane) variation?
“I fail to see how anything other than legalizing slavery will solve the associated issues.”
Just because it takes a long time–generations, centuries maybe–doesn’t mean fighting for social change isn’t worth it.
(Not that these crooked cops mentioned are doing that.)
Great analogy gordsellar, except one is consensual and the other is not.
“I fail to see how anything other than legalizing the holocaust will solve the issues associated with Judaism.”
If you’re going to troll, might as well go for the Godwin.
Can’t be bothered to search for links now, but in Korea’s type of sexually repressed society, if you totally eradicated prostitution, instances of rape and other sexual assault would sky rocket.
These are very sexually repressed people and they have to get their rocks off somehow. If they don’t, it will be bad news Korea.
Sorry to any of the “let’s think of the women/children” contingent, but I’m for the legalization of prostitution as the alternative would not be a good situation here:
millions of guys (Koreans as the waygooks are only a minute fraction of that) looking to get their rocks off suddenly with no easy outlet.
It would be dangerous!!!
Nice try, but your example of slavery is inapposite. Slavery is not otherwise legal in any context — the practice requires curtailment of liberty (arrest) and compulsion, backed by threat, to provide work.
To my knowledge, imprisonment of a person and compulsory work are both unlawful already.
If your argument is that prostitutes’ economic circumstances — i.e., the need to work to earn money — amount to slavery, well, okay. But then everyone in a human society is thereby a slave too. Pre-industrial societies had a version of this: Don’t work, don’t eat.
Damn you lawyerman and your eloquence!!! You bring shame to my post.
@KrZ:
$500 for two girls, a handjob, and whiskey? Are there men horny and dumb enough to pay that kind of money when you can pay less than W100,000 sans whiskey at an anma?
As opposed to say, the United States, where its sexually liberated way has all but eradicated sexual crimes. Or maybe not:
http://sa.rochester.edu/masa/stats.php
It’s actually the US attitude on prostitution I find most baffling — here, you have possibly the world’s most capitalist and oversexed society, where one-third of girls get pregnant before the age of 20, yet it’s illegal to actually pay for sex. Gay sex? OK. Anal sex? OK. Teen sex? OK. Wilt Chamberlain having sex with 20,000 women? OK. Swinging? OK. Paying for a “happy ending” at a massage parlor? ILLEGAL! Makes absolutely no sense to me.
Sonagi, yes ;_;
Come on now. You know the answer to any such question starting with “Are there men horny and dumb enough to…” is always yes. There are men horny and dumb enough to do this.
Oh wow. This is Rule 34 in the extreme.
This is all a farce. The Police knew that the “list” was no good from the start as they also knew that there would be NO information of the “payee/briber” attached to make the charges stick. That’s why the police said to print the list so it could “take action.”
Learned long ago in Kunsan about the police and whorehouses after a brothel burned down with women trapped inside A BLOCK FROM THE POLICE BOX…and then another brothel burned down a year later with women trapped inside.
POLICE ACTION???? Closed the police box and relocated it out of the red-light district. All the “evidence” of corruption was swept under the carpet and the case disappeared.
This most recent crackdown only provides comedy relief as riot policemen storm whorehouses — but we also know that this is only a one-time show like the police always does to show it is taking action.
When is it going to raid the officetels and apartments in the residential districts as it has forced all these pimps and hookers out of the red-light districts into being your kid’s next-door neighbors across from their schools — or better yet, have you met your new neighbors lately?
well, if anyone will legalize prostitution, booze, marijuana, and might as well cocaine and heroine, while still claiming to go to church on Sundays with a straight face, it will be
Barack Obama.
i always felt the barber shop ajumma was kind of slutty, but my mind never imagined that she was sucking dicks on the side.
i think you guys are making that up.
because if that is true, gyopo barber shop ajummas, who do the same role in the US, they ought to be sucking dicks on the side, too.
and to tell the truth, although I found them slutty, I never found them attractive to any age, and you are essentially saying our Daddies got a hair cut and a dick suck every once a month.
You guys are liers. Maybe there is a waegookin junyong barbershop where female workers suck dicks.
besides, barbershop as I remember is where dads take their children with them.
there is like, no spare moment to suck dick, collect cash, and get the myundokal to trim the neck line.
no way.
pure bull shit.
I think we’re talking about two completely different kinds of barber shops, wjk.
And I can assure you we’re not making this stuff up.
Yeah, prostitution by compulsion, backed by threat, never happens in this or any other country. The mob pimps are generally fair and kind employers. How much of that “$10k per month” pays towards some sort of manufactured debt at an interest rate that makes it too high to ever pay off? (Not that it matters, but do you people really believe that prostitutes in Korea make about $120,000 a year? Really think about this, especially in terms of supply and demand.)
Women who enter prostitution are often the victims of childhood abuse who lack self esteem and thus become entrapped in a profession that continues that cycle of abuse.
Here are some journal articles for your perusal:
ABSTRACT: OBJECTIVES: This study examined the extent to which being abused and/or neglected in childhood increases a person’s risk for promiscuity, prostitution, and teenage pregnancy. METHODS: A prospective cohorts design was used to match, on the basis of age, race, sex, and social class, cases of abused and/or neglected children from 1967 to 1971 with nonabused and nonneglected children; subjects were followed into young adulthood. From 1989 to 1995 1196 subjects (676 abused and/or neglected and 520 control subjects were located and interviewed. RESULTS: Early childhood abuse and/or neglect was a significant predictor of prostitution for females (odds ratio [OR] = 2.96). For females, sexual abuse (OR = 2.54) and neglect (OR = 2.58) were associated with prostitution, whereas physical abuse was only marginally associated. Childhood abuse and neglect were not associated with increased risk for promiscuity or teenage pregnancy. CONCLUSIONS: These findings strongly support a relationship between childhood victimization and subsequent prostitution. The presumed causal sequence between childhood victimization and teenage pregnancy may need to be reevaluated.
http://www.ajph.org/cgi/conten.....86/11/1607
ABSTRACT: Using the literature of the early sexual histories of “normal” women and two recent studies on the sexual histories of prostitutes, this article examines the pattern of early sexual experience among prostitutes and how it differs from that common to nonprostitute women. Some significant differences found between the samples of prostitutes and the samples of “normal” women were that the prostitute samples, on the whole, learned less about sex from parents and more from personal experiences, as children experienced more sexual advances by elders, were more victimized by incest, generally initiated sexual activity at a younger age, more often had no further relationship with their first coital partner, and experienced a higher incidence of rape. The analysis of these data on early sexual history concentrates on abusive sexual experiences such as incest and rape. The authors believe that an abusive sexual self-identity relates to the development of an adult female pattern of occupational deviance such as prostitution.
http://www.springerlink.com/co.....54u832427/
ABSTRACT: We initiated this research in order to address some of the issues that have arisen in discussions about the nature of prostitution. In particular: is prostitution just a job or is it a violation of human rights? From the authors’ perspective, prostitution is an act of violence against women; it is an act which is intrinsically traumatizing to the person being prostituted. We interviewed 475 people (including women, men and the transgendered) currently and recently prostituted in five countries (South Africa, Thailand, Turkey, USA, Zambia). In response to questionnaires which inquired about current and lifetime history of physical and sexual violence, what was needed in order to leave prostitution and current symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) we found that violence marked the lives of these prostituted people. Across countries, 73 percent reported physical assault in prostitution, 62 percent reported having been raped since entering prostitution, 67 percent met criteria for a diagnosis of PTSD. On average, 92 percent stated that they wanted to leave prostitution. We investigated effects of race, and whether the person was prostituted on the street or in a brothel. Despite limitations of sample selection, these findings suggest that the harm of prostitution is not culture bound. Prostitution is discussed as violence and human rights violation.
http://thehousegroup.org/archi.....e_ptsd.pdf
Yeah, that worked great for the Japanese when they combined raping “prostitutes” with a continuation of gang-raping little girls in China.
ABSTRACT: A study of 200 women street prostitutes documents extremely high levels of on-the-job victimization. Subjects reported being physically abused and beaten by both customers and pimps. Other forms of victimization included customer rape, forced perversion, non-payment, robbery, violence, clients going beyond the prostitution contract, and unfair split of money with pimps.
http://cjb.sagepub.com/cgi/con.....ct/8/4/395
And how much of the associated victimization associated with the profession — “customer rape, forced perversion, non-payment, robbery, violence, clients going beyond the prostitution contract, and unfair split of money with pimps,” for instance — owes itself to its illegal status?
What? ‘Sports massage’ businesses and barbershops are just a front for prostitution? Wow, this is really growing into something big.
Not really — it’s been like that for quite a while. It’s just that they largely avoided the Great Prostitution Crackdown of 2004, and, from what I understand, they’ve been doing better business since the red-light districts closed. Another thing is that the particular district being targeted first is close to residential housing.
Thanks for bringing it down to size. It’s must easier to get a hold of now.
#17 Robert, I totally agree!
I’m from the States and we have some of the most baffling public policies on sex. The contradiction of being such an open society, yet so freakin’ conservative is just weird, I admit.
I’m totally for legalization there, too.
However, I live in Korea and it has been proven that rape & sexual assualt are far more prevalent in sexually repressed societies such as this one.
Can you imagine what it would be like if the local male population were really cut off from this, albeit illegal, easy outlet for ‘release’?
I believe it would be VERY dangerous to be on the streets at night then!
number of wjk’s posts in the last 3 days that didn’t talk about the shape, size, rigidity, or handling of a penis: 0
number of times in the last 3 months wjk’s penis has been complimented for it’s shape, size, rigidity, or handled (by someone other than himself): 0
face it wjk, you can’t get mancock out of your mind. You must be a latent closet homosexual.
Sorry - my mistyped bad joke above should read ‘much easier’. #30 is also bad (and too vague, I guess).
Every time I leave for work and go home, I see the hundreds of cards on the street for sexual services and simply laugh at the so called illegality of the sex trade in Korea.
I don’t think the country is as sexually repressed as you imagine it to be. There’s just a greater deal of digression.
I think you’re responding to an argument that I don’t make.
@chiamatt - for an even better laugh, pick up the cards and read them. The ones that are littering 강남대로 lately are for 5exchair방’s, with college girls (of course) who will wear the uniform of your choice (alas stewardess wasn’t mentioned), and on and on. Quite advanced beyond the old 5uck and fuc&, no?
In a related story, one of my coworkers described a good night out last week, where, after a conquest at 북창동, he and his former highschoool buddies went directly to anma for a second round of girls. They have great stamina.
“conquest”
Exactly. I’ve seen it for some time now. The internet is not the only example of decentralized nodes of operation. Centralized red light places for prostitution are obsolete and are being replaced and I am sure that more than a few politicians will take credit for this disappearance when it is more so driven by the increased sophistication of business methods. I only wonder what the affect upon officetel prices are from this trend or if some sort of consolidation of ownership of certain officetels is another opportunity for criminal organizations. If such an organization bought up many of such places, then they would be paying back into the system in the form of property tax. Perhaps legalization of such makes for good economic sense since the potential for new tax revenue is probably quite large (I am guessing).
Then I guess we have something in common.
(at least from Sonagi’s POV)
You said or implied that prostitution is not comparable to slavery because slavery “requires curtailment of liberty (arrest) and compulsion, backed by threat, to provide work.” My point is that prostitution also frequently involves a curtailment of liberty and compulsion, backed by threat, to provide work, or can be a form of slavery.
Others have also made the comparison:
http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/mhvslave.htm
The rest of my comments were meant as a response to various other comments made and not specifically to yours, which is why I later say “you people.” I picked your quote as a starting point. Sorry that I didn’t make that more clear.
The assumption here is that rape is reported at the same rates within the given countries and cultures. I’ll more readily accept comparisons among America, Canada, Europe, and Australia but not so readily accept comparisons between America and Asia.
The legal status is not likely to change any of those problems as has been demonstrated by countries that have legalized prostitution, such as the Netherlands. The violence continues in addition to expanding prostitution, including child prostitution, along with to human trafficking:
Ten Reasons for Not Legalizing Prostitution and a Legal Response to the Demand for Prostitution
http://www.rapereliefshelter.b.....izing.html
http://www.haworthpress.com/st.....p;ID=40471
(FWIW, I agree with the Swedish law.)
Sure, but those same ills also exist elsewhere in the economy — for example, in textile sweatshops. And they’re illegal. The difference is that the employees of sweatshops can receive protection of their rights, while prostitutes — because of the illegality of their profession or perhaps because of social opprobrium — cannot.
If prostitution were legal, it could be regulated. Taxes, workplace safety standards, labor standards inspection, public health protection — all the good stuff becomes possible once that industry, which exists anyway, is moved into the light.
As for me, I prefer an environment wherein the police protect and serve the rights of prostitutes, protecting them just as the police would protect any other citizen, instead of seeking bribes and committing crimes themselves.
#17, Robert… to quote the late great Carlin: “Selling is legal, fucking is legal, so why isn’t selling fucking legal?”
NES, legalization in the state of NSW has done wonders for the rights of prostitutes. While there might be violent elements, I would say that the overwhelming majority is not like that at all. It is possible to say “prostitution is immoral” but not seek legal penalties against the people that are doing it without being a hypocrite. That is consistent with the way that Jesus dealt with prostitutes.
Brendon, I agree that police accepting bribes is a bad thing. However, I don’t agree that legalizing prostitution will eliminate the other problems, and the examples provided in the links indicate such.
I understand your libertarian philosophy and value of freedom of choice, which also influence my thinking heavily. Oftentimes, I have a significant internal conflict between my strong belief in freedom of choice versus my strong sense of morality, and I tend to favor choice in cases where the choice does not victimize another person significantly or deprive them of their freedom of choice. Prostitution is definitely much greyer of an area to me than something like abortion (I’m pro-life as a general rule but pro-choice in the cases of danger to the life of the mother and rape).
Matt, the link provided above as to why prostitution should not be legalized does not paint as rosy of a picture for Australia. That being said, and as I stated above, I agree with the Swedish law, which decriminalizes the selling of sex by prostitutes but leaves the buying of sex and pimping as criminal activities. I would rather not have prostitutes, who I see as victims in most cases, be pushed further down into a pit when their lives are screwed up enough as it is.
I am also in favor of laws to decriminalize drug use (in the absence of another crime or operating a motor vehicle under the influence) but make punishments for trafficking and selling drugs more strict (like charging sellers with negligent homicide if their buyer dies of an overdose). Drug addiction should be treated as a disease, not as a crime. Criminalizing drug use only helps feed the cycle of addiction as it only adds more burden to the already afflicted.
Actually, more so than decriminalizing drug use, I am in favor of rehabilitation as a “punishment” and am opposed to jail time.
wjk, are you kidding me?
There are handjob/barbershops on every street corner in Korea and they do a lot more than just cut hair.
You are living in la la land.
Not Jangan-dong, but story of what goes on in brothels in Korea: http://www.donga.com/... (Article in Korean.)
Some choice quotes:
I take no position on the legalization debate, just supplying some details.
Shit, it should have said “Each lady attendant *earned at least…”
Cue Roboseyo!
@thekorean:
The link was to the Donga homepage only, not the specific article. I also wonder about the meaning of this sentence:
If she took home less than W1 million, does this mean her pimp kept most of her earnings? Those pimps must be billionaires.
My bad, let me try this again…
Link
If this doesn’t work, I’m out of ideas. But as of now, the article is still on online Dong-A Ilbo’s front page.
As to the quoted sentence, that’s exactly what it means. So essentially (assumeing USD 1 = KRW 1000) each lady earns $10,000 for the brothel per month while being paid $700~800 per month. There might be other overhead (rent, utilities, etc.), but given that the ladies were supposed to pay for their own toilet paper, I would not be surprised if “room & board” was deducted from their pay. There were seven ladies, so the pimps were earning about $9,000 X 7 = $63K per month, $756K a year, tax-free. But 8 people were arrested, so a little less than $100K a year. (Although there is no reason to believe that things were divided equally.) It may drop further if one considers the $20K advance given to each lady — not sure how to calculate in the earnings.
Certainly a handsome earning, but not exactly billionaire range.
I meant billionaire in Korean currency. The second link worked, and your translation is correct if I may humbly say so. I’m surprised the women earn so little for such unpleasant, unhygienic work that exposes them to all kinds of nasty bugs. I believe that cervical cancer is the second or third most common cancer among Korean women, and most cases are caused by certain strains of HPV, exposure to which cannot be completely avoided through condom use. I hope the HPV vaccine is being promoted in Korea. A former colleague is dying of cervical cancer, so this is an issue near and dear to my heart.
Interesting, Sonagi. I just looked it up and surprised to find that cenital human papillomavirus (HPV) is the most common sexually transmitted infection. This is indeed a significant overlooked problem, isn’t it?
Sonagi already has HPV. No doubt. She needs a regular pap smear to save her from cervical cancer.
Number of white dicks I saw in the last 3 days: 2
Number of white dicks exceeding 1 inches, flaccid: 0.
Age of these people: 86, 65.
wjk…
How DO you spend your time, wjk?
Robert, dude, come on. The kind of stuff that is being written here by a certain person is outrageous. Fake quotes, fake details about s/ones personal life, accusations of racism, accusations of rape and sexual disease.
It doesn’t take much to deal with the problem.
Well, I type sheer jibberish under the pseudonym wjk (which stands for whinny jackass kunt).
Robert, please tell the robot that he should know that I am REAL person.
Robert, if you say so, I won’t share my recreational input, but I ask you to be true to your stance against sock puppets.
If the sock puppet claims to be me, that’s a serious violation of precedents.
and I know you said, I shouldn’t talk about someone’s wife, but with your permission, I would like to say something witty about Mizar5’s wife.
but, if not, I’ll let it pass.
however, sock-puppeting should be punished to the max.
” Number of white dicks I saw in the last 3 days: 2
Number of white dicks exceeding 1 inches, flaccid: 0.
Age of these people: 86, 65.”
Ask King Baeksu WJK, you are meant to go behind Tapgeol Park, not inside of it.
shakuhachi — I’ve got an idea. How ’bouts I don’t tell you how to run your comment section, and you don’t tell me how to run mine.
WJK — Please behave yourself.
Robert, I wouldn’t dream of it.
Boy, what is it between Shakuhachi and Robert Koehler. Does Shaku disklike Robert because Robert is content (even more than conten) to live in Korea, undermining his anti-Korea crusade? And does Robert dislike Shakuhachi for his disengenously rascist anti-korea blog and bringing his filth commentators over here?
You guys need to meet up and have a couple of dongdongju together.
@53
I’m not. Ignorant people like to glamorize prostitution by pointing out how much these women are supposed to earn, but vast, overwhelming majority of prostitutes are exactly like this: locked up and abused in all kinds of ways imaginable as indentured servants. It is absolutely repugnant.
For Gord and Brandon, I guess I have a better analogy than slavery for prostitution. Actually, make it two: How about organ donation? It is absolutely legal and admired if done for free, but illegal when done for money. Second, how about adopting a child? 100% legal if done for free, but really repugnant if you purchased a baby.
I am genuinely torn about whether legalizing prostitution is a good idea. But I do see a very strong argument in this respect that somehow not often mentioned in this type of debate: there are some things in life that we must avoid putting a price on. Human body and human dignity should never be for sale. Legalization of prostitution does exactly that; it commodifies something very important for our existence. The impact of it goes beyond the small population of prostitutes of the world; it degrades human existence, especially women. We have to draw a moral bottom line with our law, which says some things are simply not for sale.
I agree.
[pssst!] BTW, shakuhachi is the sockpuppet of wjk and Mizar is the sockpuppet of User. wiesunja is my sockpuppet. Robert, are the rumors true that Kwon Tae-Sun is really your puppet?
Are you sure? That would be an easy fight for you to win, Robert:
http://www.occidentalism.org/?p=932#comment-61062
Granted, it wouldn’t be much of a challenge. Besides, the irony of the comment section over there is pure comedy - I wouldn’t change a thing. (I wonder if the link above will have that comment deleted or edited for content now.)
With respect to organ donation, I tend to believe that sale of one’s own organs should be lawful. It’s my kidney and I’ll do what I want. While I’d rather get my sister’s kidney because she loves me, what if she’s not an organ match? I’d settle for Suresh’s kidney if it matches and he wants to sell it to me. I get to live and Suresh gets to buy a car. He’s got two kidneys and only needs one; who are you to tell him he must keep both when one of them could improve his living standard? And how can you tell me Tough luck, go die now when my sister’s kidney doesn’t match?
As for buying and selling babies, that’s a tougher problem. It’s okay to give the kid away (or to abandon her), but not to arrange for her to be reared by people who want so much to have her in the family that they’ll pay. Respectfully, I disagree: If the person “buying” the baby plans to abuse the child, there are already laws against that. But allowing a price to be established enables the birth parents to select someone with means appropriate to give a good standard of living to the out-adopted child.
I wouldn’t sell my own kids. Nor would I sell my kidney. But I don’t have to face such choices, either.
PS — I don’t glamorize the work of prostitution. It’s hard work, and they deserve as much as they can get. (Sure, it’s hard, often disgusting, and possibly dangerous work. But watch Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe on Discovery Channel sometime.) And just like any other worker, they deserve to retain as much of the fruits of their labor as possible. And I agree that the vast majority of women working in the sex industry are horribly exploited. Not all are, by the way.
My contention is that less exploitation would take place in a legal, regulated industry — and all of human experience points in this direction.
Meatpacking plants are better places due to regulation. Bristol Meyers Squibb makes safer drugs due to regulation. Why is it so hard to accept that legal brothels in Nevada, Sydney, and Auckland are better places due to regulation, and that illegal brothels would be improved by bringing them into the light of day?
No pun intended?
Before you decide to visit a prostitute, you must ask yourself one important question. “What would Jesus do?”
The answer: Jesus recommends the reverse half and half.
The crucifix in urine and elephant dung-coated Madonna art genre was becoming so passé, but at least now we can be entertained by something equally cerebral.
Hey, Robert. Do I win something for being #69 on a sex-themed thread?
You learn something new everyday…
I live in 장안동 and would regularly pass by at least 20 안마들 on my way home from the subway station.
When I walked home tonight, I could not spot a single 안마 or 마사지 sign. However, I could wear some more 노래방들 had “suddenly” popped up.
So, I’m assuming some merely converted their business into something with a slightly more legit front or else they are temporarily closed.
The multitudes of Love Motels, however, remained open and seemingly as popular as ever.