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South Korea has confirmed that North Korea has begun restoring the Yongbyon nuclear facility.

This after reports in the US and Japanese media.

15 Comments

  1. Posted September 4, 2008 at 12:10 am | Permalink

    Eh… it’s a negotiation ploy.

    You just don’t “rebuild” a nuke facility out of thin air…

  2. R. Elgin your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 12:31 am | Permalink

    Maybe this time they will put in a MacDonald’s because those lunch breaks are just too short.

  3. Lana your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 4:10 am | Permalink

    Negotiation? N. Korea doesn’t Negotiate. It just tells nations what it is or isn’t going to do. Period.

  4. NES your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    What did Bush say about Bolton’s credibility again?

  5. madar your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    North Korea just suckers other countries for aid money and benefits and then just does what it wants anyway. I can’t understand why anyone gives anything to the North in a bilateral agreement. Haven’t they figured out they are being played yet? What is it, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 100 times, you must be North Korea,”?

    I can see why the South Sends aid, it just doesn’t want to deal with huge bill it will pay when North Korea collapses and it is constitutionally obliged to merge it with itself. Why the US, or anyone else, (even China), gives the North anything is beyond me. They will get nothing back either in treaty form or good will.

    Hell I don’t even know why they talk to the North, it’s just an exercise in sadomasochism.

  6. madar your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Actually, in the US, I blame free and fair elections. Every few years you get a new government in office that doesn’t really know anything about the North and tries to deal with them in the same manner it would any other country. Or in 주체 speak, “New capitalist running dog opponents ready to be anally penetrated by the righteous, cunningly correct foreign policy of our noble Dear Leader.”

  7. peter63 your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    I don’t see how ‘free and fair’ elections applies to either the US or North Korea?
    Do you propose both countries become more democratic to resolve this problem?
    I do not think it is very likely that either country will dispose of their nuclear arsenals or nuclear power programs.
    The former is too good for military reasons and the latter too good for the environment.

  8. Tripod your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    North Korea always pulls a stunt like this at this time of year. They want food and fuel aid.

    North Korean fields do not yield enough crops (thanks to the government’s mismanagement of its soil and workers) to feed the population and bribe the armed forces. A high percentage of the crops they produce (and of the aid they receive) is used to appease the armed forces in order to ensure that they don’t overthrow the government.

  9. madar your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    peter,

    I was just saying that free and fair elections in the US causes a change in personal directing foreign policy. As, until recently, North Korea remained relatively off the radar as far as US foreign policy was concerned, this change in leadership allowed the North to, effectively, play the same con, over and over, on the US. By the time the newly elected American leaders realized they were being played, they were replaced by new leaders who were clueless.

    (Let’s face it, in the US foreign affairs almost always takes a back seat to domestic in election politics. Those running for office must master the later and not necessarily the former. So, you often have newly elected officials learning on the job in regards to international politics.)

    This, in my opinion, has been a negative effect of what I consider, overall, to be a very, very positive process, free and fair elections. Or, at least, a weakness that has been noted and exploited by the North Koreans.

  10. SambekZX your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    I truly wonder how legit these nuclear facilities ever were. Build a couple smoke stacks, a few non-descript buildings, have a steady stream of trucks carrying nothing go to and from said “facilities,” making sure that the activity is done in broad daylight under cloudless skies and US intelligence will go bonkers over the possibility of nuclear proliferation in the Korean peninsula. Biggest scam in the world.

  11. madar your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    I guarantee that what ever was done with it, when they blew it they were done with it. This “rebuild” is likely just for show, trying to squeeze some more bucks out of someone.

  12. Eujin your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Interesting point, #10, SambekZX. There are some round here who will swear to you that the North has not only been building plutonium bombs using the Yongbyon facility but also experimenting at enriching uranium in secret. One of the big pieces of evidence for the latter is that the North “admitted” to it.

  13. NES your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    #8 Tripod

    Is it mismanagement of land or is it intentionally manufacturing a famine in order to get food aid (to feed the military and government elite) so they can divert resources to something else like, let’s say, “glow-in-the-dark” technology and delivery systems? North Korean development of missile technology tracks with foreign food and fuel aid.

  14. Tripod your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    #13,

    A little bit of both and more. Starvation is viewed by the North Korean government as a means to control the population and stifle dissent. You simply can’t keep on sending skilled workers, doctors, and engineers to their death for long before the country begins to suffer…not that the North Korean government ever cared.

    I recommend that you read ‘Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader’. It’s an eye-opener.

  15. NES your flag
    Posted September 4, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    #14 Tripod

    Starvation is viewed by the North Korean government as a means to control the population and stifle dissent.

    Definitely another reason the sick bastards do it, and starvation isn’t the worst of what’s going on there. I’ll look into the book.

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