‘When we saw the head, we knew he was dead’

by Robert Koehler on August 1, 2008

As the guy who sent this to me said, you really wonder sometimes if having kids in a world like this is rational.

Listen to the witness description. Jesus. I don’t know quite what to say.

{ 50 comments… read them below or add one }

1 j August 1, 2008 at 11:21 am

That’s the main reason why I don’t get on the effin Greyhound. I rather spend the extra cash on a plane ticket.

F*cking monster…..a person like that doesn’t even have a soul.

2 WangKon936 August 1, 2008 at 11:36 am

That’s wild… and this happened in Canada?

I thought the states monopolized shit like this in North America.

3 Cal August 1, 2008 at 11:45 am

No, you can be sure equally insane outrages occur in Korea – they just don’t get publicized like they do in North America, although this is changing. Different cultures; we hang our dirty laundry out for all to see whereas Koreans want to hide the ‘shame’ and ‘save face’. Why else would policemen berate raped schoolgirls for the ‘shame’ they supposedly brought on their town for reporting systematic gang-rape by teenage boys? I’d rather live in a society that tries to root out the sickness, not sweep it under the rug.

4 Wedge August 1, 2008 at 11:59 am

How long before Dubya gets blamed for this?

5 Sumiez August 1, 2008 at 12:16 pm

@ #3, Cal.

Of course something completely unrelated SOMEHOW becomes connected to “raped schoolgirls” in Korea.

Only at the Marmot’s Hole.

6 Sonagi August 1, 2008 at 12:19 pm

Where’s Dda and his “Don’t feed the trolls” graphic?

7 H. J. Hodges August 1, 2008 at 12:19 pm

Personally, I blame “Dubya” for this.

H. J. Anonymous

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8 WangKon936 August 1, 2008 at 12:23 pm

# 5,

I second that…

9 Robert Koehler August 1, 2008 at 12:26 pm

#5,

I third that…

10 Netizen Kim August 1, 2008 at 12:39 pm

Regarding #3, what is it about these ignorant expats who can’t and don’t read the the larger corpus of Korean language media come off with these assertions about what supposedly does or doesn’t happen within Korea’s internal national discourse?

Different cultures; we hang our dirty laundry out for all to see whereas Koreans want to hide the ’shame’ and ’save face’. Why else would policemen berate raped schoolgirls for the ’shame’ they supposedly brought on their town for reporting systematic gang-rape by teenage boys? I’d rather live in a society that tries to root out the sickness, not sweep it under the rug.

When the Columbine High School shootings occurred do you know how many people were in disbelief and denial as to how a couple of seemingly normal teenage boys from nice, stable, middle-class households could ever do such a thing? Or how such a thing could have occurred at all in their precious picket fence gated community? More than you’d care to admit.

But frankly I weary of this “my culture handles X better than your culture” retarded nonsense. Just as you claim something equally fucked up could happen in Korea or anywhere, so can public denial and rationalization.

11 gracer August 1, 2008 at 12:51 pm

I live in Winnipeg where the passengers were escorted and I have to say, the city news here is having a field day! This is the biggest thing since the drowning of the birds on the Richardson.

This case is bizarre to say the least, but we get weirder things in Canada.

12 NES August 1, 2008 at 1:05 pm
13 svend August 1, 2008 at 1:08 pm

What an absolutely fucked up event.

14 NES August 1, 2008 at 1:09 pm

@10 Netizen Kim

“…so can public denial and rationalization.”

No it can’t!

15 bumfromkorea August 1, 2008 at 1:48 pm

Well, that convinced me out of taking a low-cost self-discovering trip to a random place while riding a Greyhound Bus pretending I’m Morgan Freeman from Shawshank Redemption…

16 Robert Koehler August 1, 2008 at 2:20 pm

I live in Winnipeg where the passengers were escorted and I have to say, the city news here is having a field day!

Well, I’ve always found that nothing fixes a slow news day like a random beheading.

17 cm August 1, 2008 at 2:38 pm

When I read this news this morning, I was shocked. Especially where this occurred. Winnipeg of all places, in the middle of nowhere with minus 40 celcius weathers in winters, where nothing sensational like this has ever happened in decades.

18 Bob Barker August 1, 2008 at 2:48 pm

Hmmm, I am so tired of people hanging out their dirty underwear, will someone please hang out some clean underwear, preferably the NSW kind. ;)

19 Wedge August 1, 2008 at 3:47 pm

#12 NES: Thanks for that link. That right sidebar has some classics. Just one of the nuggets:

“To avoid scorn and ridicule, Tom Cruise converts to Islam”

20 josesiem August 1, 2008 at 3:52 pm

I’m waiting to find out if this is one of Cho Seung Hui’s buddys…

‘When we saw the head, we knew he was dead’
Yeah, that’s usually a good indication that somebody’s dead.
Sounds like something from a bad B movie.

21 NES August 1, 2008 at 4:08 pm

@20

Speaking of B movies and King Kong (on another post), the best B movie is Dead Alive, Peter Jackson’s first film. There’s even a Dead Alive reference Easter egg in King Kong. Make it a double feature and watch his second film, Bad Taste. Both highly entertaining, if you like that kinda thing.

22 Dram_man August 1, 2008 at 4:41 pm

Whoa…we missed the real news:

As the guy who sent this to me said, you really wonder sometimes if having kids in a world like this is rational.

Was that just a reference, or does Rob have some news he is hiding?

23 byron August 1, 2008 at 5:27 pm

spare a thought for the poor victim’s parents. this crazy asshole has completely ruined their lives as well. hang him high.

24 Railwaycharm August 1, 2008 at 5:42 pm

When you loose your head in Canada, you really LOOSE YOUR HEAD!

25 Railwaycharm August 1, 2008 at 5:44 pm

Or… One could say they both lost their heads.

26 Railwaycharm August 1, 2008 at 5:45 pm

Or… I’m gonna head-em off at the pass!

27 H. J. Hodges August 1, 2008 at 6:12 pm

You know . . . after reading and then listening to the witnesses comments, I’m sorry that I made an absurdist remark about “Dubya.” This is seriously brutal stuff. It sounds almost like ‘Sudden Jihad Syndrome’ — except that the guy just seems to have been crazy.

Jeffery Hodges

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28 H. J. Hodges August 1, 2008 at 6:14 pm

Correction: “witnesses’ comments” . . . . I wish that I could see everything that I’m writing, but it ever exits stage right.

Jeffery Hodges

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29 Maddlew August 1, 2008 at 6:31 pm

How did this thread, in particular, a topic which is soooo disengaged from anything I’ve seen, disintegrate into the same thread that’s been hashed out for the last decade?
“…since the drowning of the birds on the Richardson.”
Uuuuhhh, yeah. (Shrug, looks around for help.) That really was a shame. The Richardson always seemed so peaceful, tranquil. How can something so wonderful and graceful turn like that? God, the humanity!

30 Maddlew August 1, 2008 at 6:36 pm

Were you talking about Stephen Stills, Graham Nash, David Crosby? I just saw them four years ago or so. They seemed so full of life. Perceptions, huh?

31 Aceface August 1, 2008 at 6:51 pm

#21

Hey,We should talk more about movies instead of that rock in the sea-of-what ever.

32 globalvillageidiot August 1, 2008 at 9:17 pm

This one is off the evil/freakish charts for almost any country.

33 roboseyo August 1, 2008 at 10:20 pm

#11:

This case is bizarre to say the least, but we get weirder things in Canada.

really? like what? I must have been away for too long; this is the most fucked up news to come out of Canada since Pickton’s pig farm.

34 dogbert August 1, 2008 at 10:52 pm

@29: You may be too young to remember Karla Homolka.

35 betchay August 1, 2008 at 10:53 pm
36 Bipolar Mindscrew August 1, 2008 at 10:54 pm

The killer was Chinese, 40, of Edmonton. Likely will be charged with 2nd-degree (unpremeditated) murder. Hopefully with Canada’s revised Criminal Code, he can be charged as a “Dangerous Offender” and never leave prison…

…but I suspect they’ll find his body stuffed in a laundry machine a few weeks after he’s locked up.

37 cm August 2, 2008 at 1:44 am

Here’s the victim’s picture and the update

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080731.wdeath01/BNStory/National/home

Vince Weiguang Li, 40, was the killer.

38 WangKon936 August 2, 2008 at 2:01 am

Here’s a grainy pic of Vince…

http://www.canada.com/cityguides/winnipeg/info/story.html?id=ba3498aa-995c-4f03-92f7-1a3cb0c79532

Early indication is that he’s southern Chinese, possibily originally from Hong Kong. Not that it matters.

39 CactusMcHarris August 2, 2008 at 2:08 am

Geez, not the light that I want to see my adopted country in. It’s rather impossible to figure out what made him do this.

On the other hand, did anyone notice that the last living concentration camp (WWII-era) commander died a week ago or so? Equally hard to figure those folk out, but then again, he probably grew up in a Croat cauldron of Serb-hate.

40 cm August 2, 2008 at 2:11 am

Sure it matters. I can see where this is going to lead to. Stay tuned for Youtubes.
When Cho Sung Hui murdered all those people, that’s what happened with all the Chinese Youtubers posting the gory and gloating. You think the Korean Youtubers will just stand pat and let this opportunity to just slide by once they get hold of this? Probably not.

41 WangKon936 August 2, 2008 at 2:18 am

Oh… and apparently… Vince is Muslim.

42 cm August 2, 2008 at 2:21 am

A very bad combination.

43 Arthur August 2, 2008 at 12:46 pm

Time for my stereotype plug; Asians in general are pretty easy going people but they seem to explode easily when they actually do get ticked. They’ll fight anybody when they do too, it’s quite impressive.

44 abcdefg August 2, 2008 at 8:13 pm

It’s unfortunate that this event is bringing up the name of Cho Seung Hui. The two killers and events have nothing to do with each other — in the same way that the spree shooting in a church that took place in the past week have anything to with CSH, or that spree shooting that took place on a highway this week in Milwaukee by a gunman shooting at people while camouflaged in the bushes have anything to with CSH. (Both shooters are white American, BTW.)

Ce la vie!

45 abcdefg August 2, 2008 at 8:17 pm

* anything –> nothing.

46 globalvillageidiot August 2, 2008 at 8:25 pm

Once again, as the Cho case showed among Americans, most Canadians couldn’t care less whether this lunatic was Chinese, Korean, Cambodian, Kamchatkan, etc.

47 roboseyo August 2, 2008 at 9:11 pm

@30: I remember Karla Homolka. Happened about an hour from where I lived at the time. That was before Pickton’s pig farm in Port Coquitlam, though, not that I’m saying one is more fucked up than the other.

I just gotta shake my head and say a prayer.

48 Baek du Boy August 5, 2008 at 12:39 pm

#21 Dead Alive (or Braindead as the original name) is not Peter Jacksons first movie. It is Bad Taste.

49 john August 6, 2008 at 7:30 am

I am not saying that the victim deserved it, but the Chinese guy was probably teed off at the loud music coming from the headphones. Maybe that started an argument that led to the tragedy. From studying criminology, that seems a very possible scenario motive.

50 WangKon936 August 6, 2008 at 8:16 am

It gets worse.

The killer is a Chinese immigrant (in addition to muslim) who came to Canada in 2004. Anti-immigration foes rejoice!.. :p

He also ate some body parts, kept some facial parts in his pocket…

Updated AP article.

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