The South China Morning Post reports that Chinese police have asked bar owners in Beijing’s Sanlitun district not to allow in black people or Mongolians:
Bar owners near the Workers’ Stadium in central Beijing say they have been forced by Public Security Bureau officials to sign pledges agreeing not to let black people enter their premises.
“Uniformed Public Security Bureau officers came into the bar recently and told me not to serve black people or Mongolians,” said the co-owner of a western-style bar, who asked not to be named.
The racism regarding black folk aside, what the hell did the Mongolians do to get into the Public Security Bureau’s doghouse?
Danwei, incidentally, thinks this story may be dubious at best.
(HT to the Peking Duck)
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My BS meter went up immediately. I cannot see any reason why the PSB would think Mongolians and black foreigners needed to be banned from bars. There is no real Chinese media equivalent of the drug-pushing, pedophile English teacher or grandma-raping GI, hence, no public perception of the need for vigilance.
Glad to see respected Danwei call out this story. Published reports about China especially need to be read with a critical eye, whether from a domestic or foreign source.
West African hash dealers and Mongolian hookers.
Mongolians are just like American Indians, great guys, but when they start downing that firewater, all hell breaks loose.
I can understand bartenders not wanting blacks or any East Asian taking a seat away from a white person.
I just came back from reading the thread at TPD. The “No blacks or Mongolians” rumor may have spawned from police arrests of black foreigners for drugs and Mongolians for prostitution.
I’m think if that happen it might make US news pretty quickly…especially if its an black US athlete’s relative or friend…but hey let start taking odds on it making the international news..
Whole Mongolian population hardly makes to 3 million. I mean how many over populated Mongolian prostitutes are there that making the Chinese to send out warnings????
Sorry #6 is not Robert, it’s his wife, didn’t know he was logged in.
The NY Times said in an article that such information, regarding banning blacks and Mongolians is a rumor, thus not true.
What is true is that the CCP is locking down many establishments to avoid problems and they will conduct “background checks” on foreign entertainers that come to China so as to “protect their sovereignty.”
It sounds the band of thieves is still feeling guilty.
It does sound a bit random… Black people and Monglians? It’s like that scene in Blazing Saddle.
“I want rustlers, cutthroats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and METHODISTS!.”
The missus makes a rare appearance! Please post more often. This place needs more estrogen-inspired commentary.
There’s a new Google ad popping up and it’s hilarious - a lovely young, busty Asian woman held in the arms of an overweight, plain-looking white guy next to the words, “Looking for an Asian bride?” Wonder if it was triggered by the mention of Mongolian prostitutes. Nothing wrong with being an overweight, plain-looking white guy - I have dated some - but I get a kick out of the physical contrast with the significantly more attractive Asian woman.
#1,
Well, they sure got their panties in a bunch over a certain blog written by a foreigner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinabounder
“grandma-raping GI”
Rule 34
Its obivious you’ve forgotten your history. Genghis Khan ruled over china and all of asia. With the movie Mongol out, well, the mongols are stirring and it looks like the mongols may try to take over china, first by out drinking everyone. Next by wearing the men out with too much sex. Since everyone will either have a hangover or worn out by sex, it will be easy pickins for the mongols to take over the china. Thats from the chinese intel agency.
#14 LMAO!
Chinese anxiety about blacks (especially Africans) is not new.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.....n_protests
“The racism regarding black folk aside, what the hell did the Mongolians do to get into the Public Security Bureau’s doghouse?”
If the story is true, what the Mongols did was get half their country occupied by China. Go drinking (outside China) with someone from Inner Mongolia and you will quickly learn why the Public Security Bureau lumps them with Uighurs and Tibetans.
Japan is world most racist country.
“An independent investigator for the UN says racism in Japan is deep and profound, and the government does not recognise the depth of the problem.”
news . bbc . co . uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4671687 . stm
You must understand why Chinese hate Mongolian… It is possible that Their biologichal father is Mongolian.
http://www.biotech.org.cn/news.....p?id=20767
http://tech.china.com/zh_cn/sc.....50015.html
在中国境内，元代初期蒙古兵在各地大量屠杀民众，许多地区人口锐减。汉族地区新婚女子的初夜权属于蒙古兵。因此，蒙古族的基因可能也已经大量注入汉民族的基因库中。(source from 中国生物技术信息网 / 技术支持：中国科学院微生物研究所信息中心)
Translate :
“In China Yuan dynasty period, Mongolia soldiers mass killed many of chinese people, a sharp dropped population of chinese. Han Chinese women’s ‘droit du seigneur’ belong to the Mongolian soldiers. Therefore, the Mongolian gene already mixed into a large number of Han Chinese DNA bank.”
China Biotechnology Information Network /
Support: Chinese Academy of Sciences Institute of Microbial Information Center
This is record that chinese in Yuan dynast period.
“ten Han families forced to host a Tartar at home,”
“ten families sharing a single kitchen chopper,”
“Mongol headman claiming the first night of a virgin set to marry,”
“twenty Han families grouped into a household headed by a Northern official,”
http://www.mh.sinica.edu.tw/e/.....-46-1a.htm
This is another Anti-China campaign. It will get intensive as olympic is coming within a month. Group of people Chinese police has middle east/Arab/East Turksitan jihadist type who are willing to kill themselves to commit the terrorist act.
“People who have sins, always afraid of everything.”
Fears of a ‘no-fun’ Olympics in Beijing
Mary-Anne Toy, Beijing
July 19, 2008
FEARS of a “no fun Olympics” are growing as security restrictions increase and become more bizarre with less than 20 days to go until the opening ceremony.
Beijing police have been visiting bar owners in the popular Sanlitun area and asking them to sign pledges agreeing to not serve black people or Mongolians and ban activities including dancing.
Bar owners said that police have been clamping down on black people and Mongolians, who are sometimes implicated in drug dealing and prostitution, as part of an Olympic clean-up campaign that they and locals fear will make for a secure but sterile Games.
Maggies, Beijing’s most notorious expatriate bar, referred to as the “Mongolian embassy” because of its popularity with Mongolian prostitutes and Western men, was shut suddenly about two months ago after a reported murder.
The gay bar Destination has also been ordered to shut down its dance bar until further notice.
And in a separate move, the Ministry of Public Security announced at the start of the month that from October 1, discos, karaoke bars and other entertainment venues must install transparent partitions in previously private rooms, and ensure staff dress more modestly as part of an effort to crack down on prostitution and drugs.
The Minister of Culture announced on Thursday that all overseas entertainers who have ever attended activities that “threaten national sovereignty” will be banned. This follows an outburst by Icelandic singer Bjork at a Shanghai concert on March 2, which sparked an official investigation.
Bjork shouted out, “Tibet, Tibet,” after performing her song Declare Independence.
A notice on the Ministry’s website on Thursday said that entertainers who “threaten national unity”, “whip up ethnic hatred”, “violate religious policy or cultural norms” or “advocate obscenity or feudalism and superstition” will be banned. “Feudalism and superstition” are often code words used by the Chinese Government to refer to Tibetans loyal to the Dalai Lama. The move follows the detention of several prominent Tibetan singers.
Beijing CBD businesses are reporting increasingly bizarre restrictions on couriers. This includes a ban on transporting CD-ROMs through the city, and mobile phones or GPS devices can only be sent if their batteries are delivered separately. This is on top of postal restrictions on sending liquids and powders.
At least six big bars and restaurants inside the Beijing Workers’ Stadium compound - where Olympic soccer matches will be held - have been ordered to shut ahead of the Olympics and during Games time.
Hundreds of armed checkpoints on the main roads coming into Beijing were introduced two weeks ago, and non-Beijing-registered vehicles have been banned until after the Olympics, a move that is causing massive delays and extra costs for businesses.
http://www.theage.com.au/world.....-3hkb.html
Are the including Inner Mongolians as well? Then that would be 3 + 5.
More animosities toward Chinese come from Outer Mongolians. It is well understood and even Chinese nationals know they are not welcome when they go to Mongol. Mongolian Yuan dyansty is widely taught as part of Chinese history and not “foreign invaders” so with exception of few Fenqing who believes in Han Chinese domination. Chinese government and most of Chinese accept the glory of Genghis Khan and his sons as its own whether you like it not.
As far as Inner Monoglians are concerned, due to few numbers of them living outside of their hometown, they are treated with “novelty” and carry prejudices like heavy drinkers (happy drunks) and better singers etc etc.. They have better image than muslims from Xingjiang, Han Chinese from Northeast and Henan province with reputation of thugs and crooks.
Therefore I don’t buy into this news of ban against Monoligans. Without opening their mouth to speak, most cannot even tell the difference.
As far as Blacks/Africans,CCP has been courting Afrian countries with money and gift. Last thing they want to is have their own police act against the wishes of central government within their own turf in Beijing.
Whole thing is BS!! Only Anti-Chinese believe and buy into it.
Even if the rumors were true, the fact that these restrictions were being issued to bars, nightlife establishments, and other venues where the barbarians are typically known to make trouble should clue one into the fact that this is not racism but standard law enforcement.
Outer Mongolians, especially the women, stand out pretty clearly in Beijing. China cares about African leaders and natural resources; ordinary Africans, not so much.
I think Siddartha is underestimating the lengths to which China is going to prevent incidents and present a sanitized Beijing from Aug 8-24.
Regarding the ‘no-fun’ olympics possiblity, I read in the paper a couple of weeks back that foreign olympic tourists were going to be restricted to Beijing.
I thought WTF? Who would fly all that way in from Europe or the America’s and not even take in anything else of the country? I wonder if that includes the Great Wall, which is a ways out of the city. This could be the lowest-attendance Olympics ever.
No need to write your congressman about the South Korean fascist state.
The true Nationalist, Socialist, and Racist, Militant state, the New Evil Empire, is the People’s Republic of China.
Only an awakened mind like that of wjk can note such things,
and also pick out the hypocrisy in the man named Barack Obama.
Yo, Sonagi, how are you saving oil, and using less, if you are going to live 50 miles away from your job for “safety”.
America, you’re full of shit.
“What the hell did the Mongolians do to get into the Public Security Bureau’s doghouse?”
The Yuan dynasty.
“What the hell did the Mongolians do to get into the Public Security Bureau’s doghouse?”
The Yuan dynasty.
(It’s the hardest dang dynasty to pronounce.)
“Danwei, incidentally, thinks this story may be dubious at best.”
“Dubious at best” seems to be putting it mildly if you bother to read Beijing Boyce’s post:
http://www.beijingboyce.com/20.....cmp-story/
Why are people responding to the story as if it were true?
It may or may not be, Nakagawa, but then again, the comment is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, Given your anti-Japanese trolling, however, it’s no doubt relevant to certain personal and mental issues you seem to have.
Commenter banned.
Mongolians see their independent country divided North and South. The North is free. The South is under the thumb of the Chinese. How much angst they have like the Mexicans over California, Texas and etc… . You have to ask one.
People do not understand the minority problems China has.
Their races smaller than the Zhuang that have their own independent countries and recognized in the UN.
The Chinese understand very clearly the problems of the Northwest Muslims. They have been fighting for independence since the ??? Dynasty. Mao had to suppress the independence movement after 1949.
There is the Northeast problem with Koreans claiming its’ ancestral homeland.
There is Tibet as well.
As for Africans and Blacks in China…
One would have to live in China to understand this issue.
Re: the link in #32:
“The bar owner I noted who said the police told him a few months ago to not serve blacks clarified that this did not seem to be part of any official policy.”
Nothing to see, folks. It’s not an OFFICIAL policy.
I lived in China a long time ago, for a year of school, and so my opinions may be quite out of touch with new China. But since when has that stopped me from ranting?
African exchange students were there in huge numbers. I was in Nanjing and there were, at some parties I attended which were organized by the Africans, several hundred black students. They were almost every weekend, and they bounced from one U. campus to another.
These were big parties, they would rent big room and the sound systems were like those you’d expect if there was a large, live band. There were usually scores of white foreign students in attendance.
The Chinese girls were curious and courted by them. THey danced together. There was always great, great AFrican music at these parties, and it was hard not to dance.
THe Chinese men, in the scores or hundreds, mainly university students, would line up along the sides in long rows, arms crossed, and glare. For the whole night. The tension was palpable, you could cut it with a knife. It was hard to relax while all these Chinese guys sat there simmering. It was sexual jealousy tinged with racist hate, and it was both obvious and disturbing. And this was the HIGH point of our weeks there. From Monday to Friday, it was just plain surveillance and racism.
In 1989 or 1990 , ( I was there in 92) hundreds of African students rioted in Nanjing against their caged, controlled existence. They ran out on the streets and fought with the cops. There wasn’t much news media coverage.
The blacks had it bad in China. They had to learn Chinese, and then study in a 4-6 year program in disciplines like engineering, architecture, sciences, nation building type stuff– and they were all there on these gov’t sponsored programs. Back in the 70s the Chinese started trying to gain influence in Africa and spread Maoist style communism there. All these students in CHina stemmed from those days.
But the poor students. They lived in cramped dorms with constantly failing basic services, were punished or kicked out of China if they got involved with a local girl, had no access to any food from home of any kind, lived on the tiniest pittance and, for good measure , were reviled by the Chinese for the color of their skin.
Most of them would go home only once during their entire stay in China. It was such rough place, with such controls, such police state surveillance and punishment. Most of the African students really, really hated China. I can’t imagine having to stay in Nanjing for 5 years. I would have literally gone off my nut.
One more tidbit. In those days, it was well known that if you went to Beijing, it was the Uighurs who approached you to sell hash or change money. Almost exclusively on the hash front, but there were many Chinese money changers working the streets too. The Uighurs were also well known for sleight of hand and would rob you blind in these money exchanges. ;p
“In 1989 or 1990″
I think that was ‘89.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.....n_protests
And I agree with Slim on Mongolian women becoming prositutes in Beijing.
According to my wife’s husband who is a police officer in Ulaanbaatar,many UB prostitues nowadays heads to either Beijing or Hohhot.I heard this three years ago.
Wow.I missed this on Wikipedia’s article on Nanjing anti-African protest.
“Anti-Africanism in China: An Investigation into Chinese Attitudes towards Black Students in the People’s Republic of China., Undergraduate Thesis-Mira Sorvino”
LMAO I laughed at this:
“The other [African] students… …were required to follow new regulations, including a night-time curfew, having to report to university authorities before leaving the campus, and having no more than one Chinese girlfriend whose visits would be limited to the lounge area. Guests were still required to be registered.”
Having no more than one Chinese girlfriend!
After reading chinabounder’s blog I really don’t know what to think of Chinese girls anymore. And this “limitation” to one girlfriend only? HILARIOUS!
I can imagine having a limitation for “one boyfriend only” in Europe for girls. We would see a second French revolution in action.
#37, you probably mean ex-wife? Because “my wife’s husband” sounds a bit “strangey”
“barbarians are typically known to make trouble should clue one into the fact that this is not racism but standard law enforcement”
Is that right Kyung Chul Kwak, I know you don’t mean that.
You don’t need dubious stories like this one to know how heavy-handed China’s gov’t is when the BBC just aired a story about Beijing residents next to the stadium who were forcibly evicted–so they could plant flowerbeds on their property.
Also, the BBC says there is a huge operation under way to send millions of temp workers who built the Olympic facilities back to rural areas with no jobs for them once they get there.
Add to this the fact that China is supplying Sudan with arms used for genocide and this is one Olympics the world should boycott.
i feel soory for chinese .. nothin to say
I feek sorry for the dogs ?
Sanlitun fun = Itaewon fun X 20
…but, too much badgering by hookers/their agents.
I am from Mongolia and hearing this news makes me upset. China has the biggest prostitution and drug link in the world. Mongolia has 2.8 million people and less than 1 percent of them could be practicing prostitution, not because of their will, but because of Chinese kidnapping. How can Mongolian 100 hookers disturb Chinese over 1 billion population. I lived in China before and I have never ever seen black person there in my entire stay. And how many blacks speak chinese??? And who moves to China??? Why would anyone would live in China??? This whole thing makes China the racist country in the world. We have more Chinese illegal immigrants and prostitutes and drug dealers in Mongolia. I thought Chinese invented that drug problem and prostitutes???
I love everything about sports. But when the Olympic Games starts in Beijing, I am not going to watch. And neither should you.
Call it the PEOPLE’S BOYCOTT. Despite worldwide protests, every major nation is sending its best athletes to China. That is all the more reason for you and me to stage our own silent demonstration. If you want to change the Olympics, change the channel.
Anything less will make you party to the cynical brutality of China’s leaders, who have broken nearly every promise they made when they were awarded the Games in 2001. Although the government pledged to allow journalists unfettered access to the Internet during the Olympics, for example, censors have blocked Web sites such as Radio Free Asia and Amnesty International.
This is the same regime that bankrolls Sudanese dictator Omar el-Bashir, who was recently indicted for genocide and war crimes in Darfur. But China turns a deaf ear to the international community, insisting that the Darfur crisis is an “internal affair”.
And this is the same line it uses with respect to Tibet, of course, where China crushed a rebellion earlier this spring.
Ditto for the jailing of political dissidents and the muzzling of parents who lost children during last May’s earthquake. “Internal affairs”, all.
If you really believe that, go ahead and watch the Olympics. But if you think that people should have the same human rights, no matter where they happen to live, then it’s incumbent upon you to look away when the Games come on.
The People’s Boycott will face objections, of course. I can already predict five of them:
1. The Olympics shouldn’t be “POLITICAL”.
That’s like saying unmarried men shouldn’t be bachelors. The Olympics have ALWAYS been political. They were political in 1936, when Adolf Hitler used the Games to burnish his international standing; in 1968,when two African American medal-winners raised their fists in a black power salute; in 1972, when Palestinian terrorists murdered 11 Izraeli athletes, and in 1980, when 60 nations boycotted the Moscow Olympics to protest the Soviet Union’s invasion of Afghanistan. One of those nations was-you guessed it- China.
2. Protesting Olympics reflects “Anti-Chinese” bigotry.
No it does not. It is a critique of the Chinese government, not of its citizenry. I have written hundreds of columns questioning the American Government’s behavior, in Iraq and elsewhere, and but that doesn’t mean I am “Anti-American”. So why does a demand for an Olympic boycott make me “Anti-Chinese”?
3. The Unites States commits its own human right abuses, in Iraq and elsewhere. Like I said, I am not a friend of the war in Iraq. But I’m also free to tell you that, in print and in person, without fear of government goons harassing me or my family. Chinese dissidents aren’t so lucky.
4. The People’s Boycott will penalize hardworking athletes. That was the best argument I have heard against a true Olympic boycott: if a country withheld its athletes, their toil and preparation would go for naught. Now that all of the nations are participating, however, it is hard to seehow turning off your television set will harm Olympic competitors. They’ll still get to play, but they’ll also get put on notice that lots of people object.
5. The People’s Boycott won’t make a difference. Maybe not this year. But down the road, it will.
After all, NBC bid nearly $900 million to broadcast the Beijing Games. If its TV ratings suffer, you can bet that the International Olympic Commitee- which derives the bulk of its revenue from broadcast fees- will think twice before awarding the Games to another dictatorial government.
And remember: Whether you watch the Olympics or not, your children will be watching you. One day, people will read about the Beijing Games and ask how the world could possibly have played along.
Your kids will have a ready answer:
We didn’t. And they’ll be proud of it, too.
Most stupid thing that I ever heard. In Mongolia 2 mln mongolians and 800 thousand chinise… almost 30% of chinise guys? So u still didnt understand what i mean? I mean how many over populated Mongolian prostitutes are there that making the Chinese to send out warnings????
Maybe those chinese guys who were burn in mongolia making prostitutions in china?
WTF? Монголчуудаа энэ арай дэндэж байгаа юм биш уу? Энийг юу гэж узэх вэ?
i dont agree no no no no no
Өө хөө. Энэ хэдэн гарууд чинь ёстой амныхаа салиагаар чалчиж өгч байх шив дээ.Бүгдээрээ нийлээд сайхан хариуг нь барьцгаая.
For all!!
Hey hey, what a funny?! What a strange thing is going in here?
LOL! Hey guys! Have you ever been in Mongolia? Have you read about Mongolian history?
Ok, let me listen! Everytime, Mongolians were nigtmare of all chinese. And also right now. They always afraid of Mongolians. In the world, people talk like this “Wow! Look at the Great White Wall” > Do you know about history of the “fucking wall”? It’s just a protection wall!!
In BC 300-100, Mongolian great Empire of Khunnus always conquered china. They always prayed for god, how can we survive? Help us! iii iii iii Oh my Buddha. Actually, Chinese are the weakest nation in the world. So that they built the FUCKING WALL.
Especially, in the past most of Mongolian realms always invaded to china. At first the wall was so small, gradually it became bigger bigger. Because of Mongolian Knights! Of course, you heard about brilliant 13th century! Remember!
Why did Mongolians invade china all times? Because, they always steal somethings from Mongolia. They always want to take Mongolian big land> so that we took response. You know, “Made in hujaa(china)” , They always copy, they always steal, They cant do anything. Just they can copy. They are the super “CANON axsh 3000000000000000″
But this is 21st century, Now Mongolians are very educated and they have good morality. In this case, they are very stupid. They’ve made wrong decision.
What do you know about Mongolian girls? They are not bitches, they are not hookers! In other words, Most Mongolian girls are virgin. They just take it their broom. If you dont know about something, dont speak too much! hahaha People will look you down.
If they bann Mongolians, they just afraid of Mongolians.
This is the real TRUTH!
In the end,
Of course, you know, China is the racist country in the world. They always kill their innocent people.
This action is indicating “The GOvernment Of china is the most STUPID”
So, am I to take it you don’t like China very much, then?
uuu zaa za, Mongolchuud bid gadnii nuhdeer ingej l haragddag yum baina.
Joohon ch gesen soyoltooi baij neree tataj avah tsag ni boljee zaluuchuudaa!
itgemeergui yum?..
Yeah, i dont like them.
In here, “This ban is because of Mongolian prostitutes” is written. It’s lie, it’s fake. Some people may be misunderstand it.
Some foolish governers are just doing their the foolishest action. I just want to say it
This is very simple. If you are from America do you like Mexico? If you are from Sweden do you like Norway? If you are from Iraq do you like Kurdistan? If you are from Russia do you like Chechen and Dagistan???