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	<title>Comments on: Maps and Photos of Beach at Geumgangsan</title>
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		<title>By: SeoulPodcast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SeoulPodcast #16: An EPIK Tale (Justin Sowers)</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeoulPodcast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SeoulPodcast #16: An EPIK Tale (Justin Sowers)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] South Korean tourist shot dead by North soldier - Yahoo! News  North Korea Demands Apology After Killing South Korean Civilian (ROK Drop)  On the Ajumma Slain in North Korea, and Anti-Communist Paranoia in the South (Gord Sellar) Maps and Photos of Beach at Geumgangsan [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] South Korean tourist shot dead by North soldier - Yahoo! News  North Korea Demands Apology After Killing South Korean Civilian (ROK Drop)  On the Ajumma Slain in North Korea, and Anti-Communist Paranoia in the South (Gord Sellar) Maps and Photos of Beach at Geumgangsan [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitar</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/07/14/map-and-photo-of-beach-at-geumgangsan/#comment-170806</link>
		<dc:creator>Dimitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found some information that covers up with common sense and I think is true. I also agree with CM about the intention of NK to discredit 2MB.

According to them not an infantryman has shot Mrs. Park down, but a special squad, called "Mt. Geumgang Garrison", which were notorious with "their violence or giving and receiving money".
(I wonder what bastard you should be to be corrupted and violent in a country like North Korea. It's like being open-minded in Holland)

The following are some quotes from defectors that have served in NK's army:

"A Civilian Police Unit is not formed for defense, so in the case of an emergency, for an immediate response, the smallest battle unit of three people each is formed... Lying in ambush or for inspections also operates three people to one group; however this is not just an average infantry unit;..."
"In the case of an average infantryman, they can fire an actual shot only after a warning. However, the Civilian Police Unit can fire immediately while omitting the warning shot."
"It is not the first time that South Korean tourists have entered restricted areas and there have been several incidents like this, but a North Korean soldier has never fired a gunshot. If it is true that warning shots were not fired, but actual shots were fired, then it is highly possible that this incident was carefully planned."
"Average North Korean infantrymen do not have orders to aim at civilians, and they cannot independently decide to shot a South Korean civilian, which would always erupt into a political issue."
"In order to strike the target with an AK-47 rifle, a person needs to be within a 100 meter distance. Such a technique surpasses the standard of average North Korean infantrymen."
"If North Korea, according to a particular political goal, needed to detain or execute a South Korean citizen, the Mt. Geumgang tourism area is probably the most suitable. In the tourism area, the ideologically and militarily elite soldiers are arrayed, while South Korean citizens are exposed in a defenseless state."

BINGO!

I think this pretty much solves the case.
The whole article could be found at:
http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk00400&#38;num=3859

I think it deserves a separate thread... I hope Marmot thinks so too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found some information that covers up with common sense and I think is true. I also agree with CM about the intention of NK to discredit 2MB.</p>
<p>According to them not an infantryman has shot Mrs. Park down, but a special squad, called &#8220;Mt. Geumgang Garrison&#8221;, which were notorious with &#8220;their violence or giving and receiving money&#8221;.<br />
(I wonder what bastard you should be to be corrupted and violent in a country like North Korea. It&#8217;s like being open-minded in Holland)</p>
<p>The following are some quotes from defectors that have served in NK&#8217;s army:</p>
<p>&#8220;A Civilian Police Unit is not formed for defense, so in the case of an emergency, for an immediate response, the smallest battle unit of three people each is formed&#8230; Lying in ambush or for inspections also operates three people to one group; however this is not just an average infantry unit;&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8220;In the case of an average infantryman, they can fire an actual shot only after a warning. However, the Civilian Police Unit can fire immediately while omitting the warning shot.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;It is not the first time that South Korean tourists have entered restricted areas and there have been several incidents like this, but a North Korean soldier has never fired a gunshot. If it is true that warning shots were not fired, but actual shots were fired, then it is highly possible that this incident was carefully planned.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Average North Korean infantrymen do not have orders to aim at civilians, and they cannot independently decide to shot a South Korean civilian, which would always erupt into a political issue.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;In order to strike the target with an AK-47 rifle, a person needs to be within a 100 meter distance. Such a technique surpasses the standard of average North Korean infantrymen.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;If North Korea, according to a particular political goal, needed to detain or execute a South Korean citizen, the Mt. Geumgang tourism area is probably the most suitable. In the tourism area, the ideologically and militarily elite soldiers are arrayed, while South Korean citizens are exposed in a defenseless state.&#8221;</p>
<p>BINGO!</p>
<p>I think this pretty much solves the case.<br />
The whole article could be found at:<br />
<a href="http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk00400&amp;num=3859" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailynk.com/english.....p;num=3859</a></p>
<p>I think it deserves a separate thread&#8230; I hope Marmot thinks so too.</p>
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		<title>By: Alejandro Marivosa</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/07/14/map-and-photo-of-beach-at-geumgangsan/#comment-170730</link>
		<dc:creator>Alejandro Marivosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Koreans in North and South are authoritarians.”

"yeah.. please tell that to the candlelight people."

Virtualwanderer, you obviously are unaware that one side of authoritarianism is contempt for people who don't exercise their authority. "At your feet or at your throats" is how Churchill famously put it (in regard to another authoritarian people).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Koreans in North and South are authoritarians.”</p>
<p>&#8220;yeah.. please tell that to the candlelight people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Virtualwanderer, you obviously are unaware that one side of authoritarianism is contempt for people who don&#8217;t exercise their authority. &#8220;At your feet or at your throats&#8221; is how Churchill famously put it (in regard to another authoritarian people).</p>
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		<title>By: Tripod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tripod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Latin, sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Latin, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Tripod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tripod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#34,
Sorry for being so anal, but RIP is from the latin, "requiescat in pace".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34,<br />
Sorry for being so anal, but RIP is from the latin, &#8220;requiescat in pace&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: user-81</title>
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		<dc:creator>user-81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33, "RIP" is rest in peace, for the dead. But I feel sympathy for all NK victims, living or dead, including who you mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33, &#8220;RIP&#8221; is rest in peace, for the dead. But I feel sympathy for all NK victims, living or dead, including who you mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #29 user-81

"
and all other victims of the Norks.
"

you mean everyone in NK:

-  that is not living in Pyongyang
-  somehow a direct official party member
-  in the military</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #29 user-81</p>
<p>&#8221;<br />
and all other victims of the Norks.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>you mean everyone in NK:</p>
<p>-  that is not living in Pyongyang<br />
-  somehow a direct official party member<br />
-  in the military</p>
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		<title>By: virtual wonderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>virtual wonderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marmot, is post 31 still the norm on your blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marmot, is post 31 still the norm on your blog?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Kimberlake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Kimberlake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Koreans are nuts.  Not a day goes by where I can't wake to another embarassing action by a Korean.  

They've urbanized way too fast, and their limited experience with the modern world can't keep pace with their ill-conceived thoughts and ideas...that's why so many things they do are just plain wrong, zany, mystifying, or all of the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koreans are nuts.  Not a day goes by where I can&#8217;t wake to another embarassing action by a Korean.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;ve urbanized way too fast, and their limited experience with the modern world can&#8217;t keep pace with their ill-conceived thoughts and ideas&#8230;that&#8217;s why so many things they do are just plain wrong, zany, mystifying, or all of the above.</p>
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		<title>By: virtual wonderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>virtual wonderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don't forget lee sung bok.  10 year old boy gatted for saying he hates commies.

http://www.koreascope.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=E100_0020&#38;wr_id=6&#38;sca=Provocation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t forget lee sung bok.  10 year old boy gatted for saying he hates commies.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.koreascope.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=E100_0020&amp;wr_id=6&amp;sca=Provocation" rel="nofollow">http://www.koreascope.com/bbs/.....rovocation</a></p>
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