Where’s the (American) beef?

by Andy Jackson on July 10, 2008

Does anyone know of any steak or burger places that are serving American beef now? I sent an email to the Nashville restaurant in Itaewon this morning but have not gotten a reply yet.

I am looking for a place to have a lunch event on a Saturday.

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1 adhaglin July 10, 2008 at 3:10 pm

I’ve been told by a friend that the new-ish Thai restaurant in Hongdae (thaibilly?) is serving it, but that is yet to receive independent confirmation (until I go there and eat it, smell it, rub it on my bare chest, etc.). it’s over kind of by club evans, that one British pub with the patio, and the sexy 돼지.

2 Lazy_Contractor July 10, 2008 at 3:15 pm

I believe all the beef being served on the US bases at all the fast food joints have been American beef all along. Again, I cannot confirm this.

I *CAN* confirm that American beef has been sold in the commissaries on posts all this time though.

3 r.rac July 10, 2008 at 3:27 pm

Nashville steak house closed last fall. Not sure what they are serving at the bar upstairs.

4 Keyser Soze July 10, 2008 at 3:30 pm

#2 True, in order to protect us from HanWoo and the ravages of Mad Korean Driver/Student disease, those with base access have been able to purchase US beef for years now.

The purpose of this thread seems to be to help our less fortunate brothers who lack post access. Off-post establishments are still probably too shy to state openly if they are serving US beef, for fear of the wrath of the candle girls.

So, if anyone knows a restaurant serving American beef let us know!

Eat US beef, or you might wake up as a duped protester!

5 chiamattt July 10, 2008 at 3:36 pm

It’s the law now for all restaurants to say where there beef is from. If any restaurant is going to sell US beef, you can be sure it’ll only be in Itaewon. I don’t think any other restaurant in Seoul is going to move away from Korean/Australian beef until the candle girls have grown up and gone to the US to study English.

Are any of the foreign food markets selling the US beef yet?

6 afe July 10, 2008 at 4:08 pm
7 Chemboy July 10, 2008 at 4:11 pm

“It’s the law now for all restaurants to say where there beef is from. ”

Not just beef but pork, chicken, and kimchi too.

8 maddog July 10, 2008 at 4:24 pm

Why search it out? This is as stupid as the mad cow candles. Are you trying to make some political statement by eating US beef?

It makes no sense. It’s not like the burger/steak is going to be any cheaper. So what’s the purpose of searching out American beef? Getting all patriotic about dead animals is even dumber than some of the idiots in China boycotting Kung Fu panda because it somehow tried to appropriate (according to them) a Chinese symbol… As if the Chinese owned Pandas. This is much dumber than that because at least the pandas are alive. You are trying to identify with a dead carcass of a cow.

I think all the anti-candle blogging has pushed you into the same lunatic category as the protesters at City Hall. Good luck with that.

9 Leguwan July 10, 2008 at 4:24 pm

I heard the Hard Rock Cafe in Itaewon uses US beef… haven’t verified it personally though.

10 pawikirogi July 10, 2008 at 4:28 pm

yeah, why you seeking out american beef? wait a minute, you insist on koreans eating merican beef while you refuse to eat korean beef? the expat’s true colors laid bare for all to see.

11 parker July 10, 2008 at 4:44 pm

Haglin, it’s Saebilly.

I was eating dinner there with a 미국산aphobic friend last weekend. When I asked the waiter there where the beef was from I expected him to say Australia no matter where it had really come from but surprisingly he admitted it was American right away.

They don’t make the best Thai food in Korea but it’s still pretty good and definitely the best in the Hongdae area.

http://www.menupan.com/Restaurant/OnePage.asp?acode=T167871

12 hitest July 10, 2008 at 4:53 pm

#8…perhaps because American beef tastes different?… Perhaps because it might be cheaper… Perhaps because American beef is tested for BSE more often than Korean beef… Humm?

13 Andy Jackson July 10, 2008 at 5:07 pm

#8 Yes, it is for a political statement (that is as far as I will explain at the moment).

For the record, I have no problem eating Korean or Australian beef. However, evil New Zealand beef is right out.

14 jag July 10, 2008 at 5:25 pm

I like Korean beef. Nothing wrong with it, except that it’s stupid expensive. Cheaper to buy will translate into cheaper to sell, if for nothing else than attracting more business. I will buy what leaves more in my wallet.

15 The Goat July 10, 2008 at 5:42 pm

@10,

Duck,

Since I refuse to believe that anybody is that stupid, I have come to the conclusion that you are just trolling.

Good luck with your endeavors.

16 Michael July 10, 2008 at 6:48 pm

There’s always been a brisk trade in U.S. beef from U.S. base commissaries on the Korean black market, and I doubt it stopped during the Krazy Kow Karnival. It’s interesting that no mention of this was made during the protests.

So Mr. Jackson, you might as well go to your local shiktang and get your L.A. kalbi fix there.

17 cm July 10, 2008 at 7:55 pm

Pretty soon you might be eating American beef but you may not know it.

One of the things that Lee Myung Bak gave into the mad cow forces was that there would be strengthened rules and enforcement of declaration of beef origin. The crackdown forces all restaurant owners and supermarkets to declare the country origin for not just the meat that’s on sale, but also any beef ingredients. That means if a mom and pop restaurant is selling soup and that soup contains bits and pieces of beef, the restaurant must mark the beef’s origin in their menu. This crackdown is causing a complete confusion to businesses and it’s not really a tenable or an enforceable plan in the long run.

This is the kind of discriminatory policies that makes Korea’s trade partners resentful. What restaurant in their right mind would mark down their soup as containing US beef parts even if they are using US beef? There’s nothing that stops them from labeling them as Korean or Australian beef. Many places mislabel their imported beef as Korean, but we all know Korea doesn’t have that many cattle to amply provide the growing market.

18 Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog) July 10, 2008 at 8:49 pm

My law partner told me today that he heard Burger King has apparently announced it will be serving US beef. I haven’t verified this.

19 cm July 10, 2008 at 9:36 pm

Completely sold out in the first day in Pusan. Also flood of calls coming in inquiring about buying.

http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2008/07/10/2008071001055.html

20 Richard July 10, 2008 at 10:09 pm

Pawi,
We all know that you are an agent provocateur. Which is not necessarily bad. But in truth, I don’t think anyone has said that they INSIST(demand?) that Koreans eat American beef but rather have that quaint characteristic that normally exists in a free society called CHOICE.

21 Sonagi July 10, 2008 at 11:13 pm

nashville steak house closed last fall

The Nashville closed? Boohoo.

22 slim July 10, 2008 at 11:40 pm

@20 – You give that guy too much credit for what is his typically faulty logic and shoddy reasoning.

23 Bipolar Mindscrew July 11, 2008 at 1:22 am

dda you uh, misplaced your post ^^

24 KK Kau Manua July 11, 2008 at 2:15 am

Today one of my students said that as he was leaving the house, his grandmother was headed out to buy some beef. He asked her what kind? She said, “American, OF COURSE!!!”

Asked another student and he said he’d eat American beef with no problem. A few weeks ago, this was not his answer.

I believe the beef wars are over. But again this whole anti-US beef was NEVER ABOUT BEEF IN THE FIRST PLACE. That was all smokescreen for the real purpose of killing the FTA and destabilizing the LMB administration before it could start in earnest on its witchhunt to root out the progressives — and they are already at it now with a vengence.

All along during this anti-US beef fiasco, I have been having barbeques in the apartment plaza with Korean neighbors as guests eating AMERICAN STEAKS — and they always say, “anytime call me.” (I’m a retired GI.)

25 Goethe's Lover July 11, 2008 at 2:20 am

Even Somang chuch does clarify that it does not use US beef.
http://www.somang.net/COMMON_BOARD/CONTENT.aspx?seq=5042&page=0&boardcode=HP023&fiMenu=&seMenu=

You know, Somang church has grown Lee MB and his ogovernmental headquarters.

26 Kevin July 11, 2008 at 5:58 am

Isn’t there supposed to be a BBQ at city hall this Sat? Conservatives are looking to feed US beef to 10,000 people, but I heard of this plan before they roped off the lawn and started laying new sod. Is is canceled? Moved?

27 maddog July 11, 2008 at 9:05 am

1. It’s not any cheaper. Sorry, you wont get a discount at the restaurant because the steak is American. Makes this point moot.

2. It tastes different? Are you a beef connoisseur? I doubt you really can tell the difference other than the one you convinced yourself you can taste. A burger with toppings is going to taste pretty much the same if the cow as American, Korean, Australian or French.

3. A political statement? And are you going to stand up in the restaurant and announce to everyone that you are eating US beef as a statement? I see a few problems: 1) most likely if it’s in Itaewon all the people in the place will be foreigners. Why do you want to make a statement to other foreigners and a HANDFUL of Koreans? 2) Even if they were all Koreans how many would understand you? 3) You will either eat alone or with a bunch of friends. Are you intending to make a political statement to your friends? They probably already agree.

In the end, this is a stupid as the candles.

28 Chemboy July 11, 2008 at 9:31 am

“Completely sold out in the first day in Pusan. Also flood of calls coming in inquiring about buying.

http://news.chosun.com/site/da…..01055.html

You know, guys, don’t see this as a sign that US beef is somewhat better than Korean beef (Australian beef is leaner and tastier in my opinion).
A lot of it has to do with curiosity (tell someone they can’t have something and they want it even more) and price.

Besides, 130kg? That ain’t much.

29 Chemboy July 11, 2008 at 9:33 am

“1. It’s not any cheaper. Sorry, you wont get a discount at the restaurant because the steak is American. Makes this point moot.”

It shouldn’t be cheaper…

Korean beef should be just as cheap.

Remember, the WTO has ruled against Korea on this.

http://www.wto.org/english/news_e/news01_e/dsb_10jan01_e.htm

30 Max Watson July 13, 2008 at 2:46 am

#18 (Brendon) – I ate at the Burger King in the Coex mall a couple days ago, they had up the mandatory sign stating where all the beef comes from; currently it’s 100% Australian but I’m sure it will change eventually to US.

31 Granfalloon July 25, 2008 at 2:22 pm

Oh yeah. Time to get my beef on.

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