Eva’s Music Video

Another Misuda panelist takes the road to musicdom.

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 Well, at least she had the sense of not copying Djamilya’s approach to music videos.

76 Comments

  1. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted July 6, 2008 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    i love misuda! seeing all those hot women with korean guys. yeah!

  2. Posted July 6, 2008 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    This link sets my Vista computer into an endless loop. I wanna go back to DOS…

  3. Michael your flag
    Posted July 6, 2008 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    My wife was watching that show last night for a while…there’s something pathetic about that program, about the neediness for affirmation that underlies it. Anyway, the women speak excellent Korean from what I heard, makes me feel a little embarrassed about my 아기-level speech.

    Didn’t Mr. Carr say a version with foreign males was in the works? Maybe that would balance things out and make the show look less exploitative.

  4. cm your flag
    Posted July 6, 2008 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    Don’t click on it guys, it won’t work with firefox, you have to use IE and it tries to install some weird active-x program that takes over 5 min to install.
    I can’t imagine what that’s doing to my PC.

  5. Posted July 6, 2008 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t Mr. Carr say a version with foreign males was in the works? Maybe that would balance things out and make the show look less exploitative.

    That was a complete joke, dude — both in respect of the show being planned, and me being on it. You should know by now that a show about foreign men with Korean women would not go down!

  6. captbbq your flag
    Posted July 6, 2008 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    The male version of it was called “미남들의 수다” and it aired once as far as I could tell, Christmas day 2007.

    A lot of the guys, not surprisingly, seemed to have learned Korea in a bar…

    I tend not to watch any version of it, while some of the girls’ Korean is hands down fantastic, there are others, in particular but not limited to that South African Girl who ends every fragment with ㅁ니가/습니다, who just plain suck. My concern is that exposing myself to their bad Korea will internalize their mistakes and make me even worse than I already am.

  7. Michael your flag
    Posted July 6, 2008 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, I know, I know. I didn’t mean a show with waegook men in thong underwear dancing for Korean milfs, but a more general talk show. Pawi could be the MC :)

  8. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted July 6, 2008 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    ‘You should know by now that a show about foreign men with Korean women would not go down!’

    nor would a show with balck men and white women go down here in america. don’t forget that.

    you know, i initially gave credit to ‘the wire’ for showing just that but then i learned that the show had very low ratings. the producers say one of the reasons is the almost all black cast. i’m sure the black man white woman thing didn’t help.

    ‘about the neediness for affirmation that underlies it.’

    i agree. it’s almost like screaming at the top of your lungs on the net about how you take other guys’ women.

    affirmation indeed.

  9. Posted July 6, 2008 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Chris, right on. Very intrusive active X controller indeed!

  10. Posted July 6, 2008 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Chris, right on. Very intrusive active X controller indeed!

  11. captbbq your flag
    Posted July 6, 2008 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    Here is an article about the aftermath of one of the episodes, seems like there was one on Sept 25th of last year (in fact, having read the article it sounds like the Christmas one was a re-run of this).

    Tell you what, before clicking on the following link, just imagine what “issue” might arise.

    Hint 1: Brendens’ comment
    Hint 2: neziten, nemow naerok, stapxe

    http://economy.hankooki.com/lp.....383940.htm

  12. Michael your flag
    Posted July 6, 2008 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Pawikirogi, it’s certainly immature if anyone is “screaming at the top of your lungs on the net about how you take other guys’ women,” I agree. And I’ve never done so at any time on this blog or anywhere else.

    All the same, I found the misuda show to have a certain pathos, as I said. American and European TV shows can be just as inane, yet the misuda show has an added exploitative aspect that is tacky to me. I hardly watch TV in Korea at all save YTN and the BBC, but I happened to catch a few minutes of the program and won’t be watching again.

  13. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted July 6, 2008 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    the show is fluff, michael. i wouldn’t spend much time watching such crap.

    didn’t say you screamed at the top of your lungs though many of the expats here most certainly have. that bald guy from australia is one that comes to mind instantly.

  14. cm your flag
    Posted July 6, 2008 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Hi Michael. That’s what I thought too before I started to watch the show regularly. Believe it or not, the show results in some interesting cultural discussions that most Koreans don’t have the chance to view. Sometimes it’s hillarious and sometimes it brings out some serious issues like that when that American girl recalled getting attacked and refused treatment at a hospital. That gave a lot Korean viewers something to ponder. The show has its faults don’t get me wrong, but it’s got its pluses too. And overall, I give it a two thumbs up.

  15. Posted July 6, 2008 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    you know, i initially gave credit to ‘the wire’ for showing just that but then i learned that the show had very low ratings. the producers say one of the reasons is the almost all black cast. i’m sure the black man white woman thing didn’t help.

    pawikirogiThe Wire is one of the best shows ever, one of my favorites, and I had to rack my brains just now to recall which was the black male-white woman coupling. And I grew up in Missouri, where the racial attitudes were somewhat retrograde. I think you’re projecting.

    The Wire got relatively low ratings because it was incredibly bleak. All of David Simon’s shows, which I have always loved, got low ratings.

  16. Michael your flag
    Posted July 6, 2008 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    CM, that’s interesting to hear. I heard this incredibly grating baby-talk voice (the women was from one of the ’stans I think, don’t remember) and I went over to see what the missus was watching, and it was that show. Some of the other women sounded like adults though. Guess it’s no worse than the one with the metal trays that fall on people’s heads….

  17. Posted July 6, 2008 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    I happened to catch the male version (was staying a few nights with the girlfriends family). One problem was that the guys just weren’t very pretty. A few of them looked downright sleazy. The American representative was, if I recall correctly, biracial, and was (according to my girl) the only decent-looking guy in the lot.

  18. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    i think you need to shut up, lawyer. the red haired DA and the black lt(daniels) from the special unit started their affair in season 3. both are major characters of the show. you must not have been watching closely. that affair started after lt’s wife threw him out. i’m on season 4 and as far as i can tell, it’s still going on.

    as for the low ratings, i’m simply repeating what the producers of the show have said. the ratings were poor. the producers believe that one of the reasons was the almost all black cast. i don’t find that hard to believe being born an american and raised in america.

    projecting? projecting what?

    you done got schooled, lawyer. you done got schooled.

    ps perhaps you don’t remember because your missouri self couldn’t stand to see it.

    done got schooled.

  19. KrZ your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    “nor would a show with balck men and white women go down here in america. don’t forget that.”

    Flavor of love was a show which aired for 3 seasons featuring numerous white women and women of other ethnic backgrounds vying for the sexual attention of a black man.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavor_of_Love

  20. Sonagi your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 1:03 am | Permalink

    as for the low ratings, i’m simply repeating what the producers of the show have said. the ratings were poor. the producers believe that one of the reasons was the almost all black cast. i don’t find that hard to believe being born an american and raised in america.

    Good Times, The Jeffersons, Sanford and Son, Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids, What’s Happening, The Cosby Show, A Different World, In Living Color, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Family Matters, Moesha, Jamie Foxx Show, That’s So Raven

    Obviously America isn’t ready for a TV show with a mostly black cast.

  21. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 1:30 am | Permalink

    all of them comedies. none of them serious. black-man-make-me-laugh! has a long history in this country. don’t argue with me. you got a problem with what the producers said? you talk to them. btw, do any of those shows have a black dude and white lady married to one another? you bleed red, white , and blue and are unable to discuss this issue without your nationalistic dribble coming to the fore. you’re too arrogant to see it.

    as for this ‘flavor’ bullshit, yeah so? what’s your point? you think that proves white men don’t have a problem with black men and white women? bullshit. you think you can come up with one or two and therefore it ain’t true? guess you got your black cho sung hee.

    btw, were you a fan of the show?

    who you think you’re foolin? man!

  22. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 1:42 am | Permalink

    one more thing, who was watching this ‘flava’ show? america 30% colored. you going tell me this was a popular show with whites?

    now you done got schooled too, krz.

    done got schooled.

    hard to admit you ain’t no different than the korean guy you whine about constantly, huh?

    ya feel me, krizzy?

    done got schooled. go join lawyer there in the corner before you get got.

    done got schooled.

  23. dogbert your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 4:03 am | Permalink

    Pawi’s a closet kigger!

    Who’d a thunk it?

  24. jag your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 5:25 am | Permalink

    Too bad he can’t channel some of his energy into something a little more constructive.

  25. Maddlew your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 5:41 am | Permalink

    Pawi done schooled the hooded white lawyer man!
    Have you seen his new avatar?
    “…and his hair was perfect!”

  26. Chemboy your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 7:21 am | Permalink

    #17,

    How is that relevant to a discussion about Korean TV?

  27. Tomas your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    I am wondering if Koreans or viewers actually take that show to be a representation of reality in terms of the fake adulation of Korean men by those foreign women.

    At first glance, the purpose of Misuda seems to be the spreading of ideas and thoughts of how and what the foreign women think of their their experiences in Korea to the Korean public. However, what I noticed after watching more episodes is that the show’s producers seem to have another more important agenda with Misuda that is not as explicitly stated and is veiled to cover up any possibility of misinterpreting as “sinister” intents that would be otherwise too offensive or open to censure if explicitly stated. The agenda that I am talking about is the promotion of the Korean male as some sort of symbol of a treasure which is supposedly sought after by women from all over the world. If you notice from watching the reviews and commentary of the show on websites in Korea, although there are some comments about how beautiful and intelligent the women are, the Korean viewers and public seems to place more attention on the dweeb Korean male celebrities that are on the panel. I have been reading the comments from many viewers and so many of them talk about how “lucky these women are” to be able to talk with some of the Korean male celebrities. I’m like..WTF???? If anything, those zero-talents should feel lucky to be able to land any one of those beauties. It’s really weird though how Korean viewers and foreign viewers have totally different areas of focus and interest regarding the show. For the foreign viewers, the priority of interest is obviously on the women. However, the Korean viewers seem to think the main area of focus and interest should be with the Korean male guest celebrities.

    IN the end, I guess Koreans like to have their ego stroked when these girls openly state on the show how each of them worships the ground on which Korean men walk and would prefer nothing more in the world than a chance to marry or date a Korean man. However, I really wonder if these girls would say this in real life…meaning if they weren’t paid tons of money by the show’s producers to praise Korea and stroke the little Korean man’s ego.

  28. mcnut your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    ActiveX takes like 30 seconds to install.

    And I think the girl who was attacked was Russian, not American I forget?

    Misuda has some hot chicks on there. I once saw one (blone south african) who is NOT hot at Mokdong immigration and the adjushis were all over that ass… Nice helpful… Asking to take pictures with them.

    It was so f’ing lame. Then up comes the person after her and it was right back to grumpy, old, soju saturated immigration official adjushi.

  29. KrZ your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    “one more thing, who was watching this ‘flava’ show? america 30% colored. you going tell me this was a popular show with whites?”

    You made a statement, which was proven to be false. Now you want to gripe about the popularity of said show? Whatever demographics I could present you would automatically be dismissed as insufficient and/or insignificant.

    “hard to admit you ain’t no different than the korean guy you whine about constantly, huh?”

    I’ve never complained about Korea. I love Korea and Koreans. In my experience both Korean men and women alike are wonderful kindhearted people. I may have been spit on, shoved, and swung at a couple of times for being white but I would never extrapolate that to broad generalizations about Korea as a whole. Even in such a wonderful country there are a few assholes, such as yourself.

  30. Chemboy your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    “one more thing, who was watching this ‘flava’ show? america 30% colored. you going tell me this was a popular show with whites?”

    I guess you’re too young, or simply too dishonest, to remember ‘The Jeffersons’.

  31. Chemboy your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    Not saying that all Americans are open-minded about interracial relationships (360 million people, you’re bound to have a fair number of assholes and bigots in the pot), but I Love Lucy, Star Trek (it was hinted that Capt. Kirk and Uhura were sleeping together and Spock was the son of a Human and a Vulcan), My Name is Earl, Grey’s Anatomy, Scrubs, Lost, Gilmore Girls, Sex in the City, Will & Grace, are all shows that have featured interracial couples.

  32. Chemboy your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    …now, back to that horrible song.

  33. Sonagi your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    btw, do any of those shows have a black dude and white lady married to one another?

    You presume that it is because white men would be turned off by seeing such a pairing. You are ignoring another group that has strong negative feelings about black male/white female couples, namely, black women, who also feel uncomfortable about black female/white male couples. Any show aspiring to attract large black following would need to tread carefully in casting and portraying interracial relationships. Now wipe that blancophobic dribble off your chin.

  34. Posted July 7, 2008 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    Ally MacBeal went nuts for a black guy in some season or other.

  35. Chemboy your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Oh, and let’s not forget that quite a few American A-list celebrities are multi-ethnic.

  36. cmm your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    @29 Nice final paragraph. And very accurate.

  37. wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    wow, this is why you’re white.

    You think the Chris Rock, Jamie Foxx, Eddie Murphy getting paid sky high with what they do is actually a positive thing?

    Fact is, virtually all North American all-African American shows are comedies.
    Sitcoms, comedies, much the same.

    If you ever open a book, open one on the subject. It’s pretty much well documented that this is another form of racism. Interestingly, though, it persists on the brown screen.

    by the way, you don’t think the likes of Eddie Murphy with movies like the Nutty Professor and such were actually attempts to make fun of his own, and cash in?

    if you haven’t realized it till now, that’s what Chris Rock does for a living.

    wow, you’re so white. No need of further conversation.

  38. Siddhartha your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    #27 Tomas,
    What do you expect..Misuda is a show case of these foreign womens “LOVE” Korea…It is never meant to be straight talk experience of Korea..

    KA friend of mine went to Korea became a hip pop singer in 2000..He went on to variety TV show to talk about his “coming home” experience in Korea. His interview got censored and he end up retaped the show because he talked about how hard the tap water is, bad drivers and air pollution of Seoul..very lame stuffs but I was told by my friend that program director was not amused and my friend’s company was given warning not to let these kids talk “nonsense”

    At the end, every talkshow is rehearsed to the script serves to the wide audiences. You clearly state the demand of Korean audiences wanting to see foreign women’s desire for Koean male.

  39. Chemboy your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    #37,

    I’m white? Guess again.

    Oh, nice ad hominem attacks. It really adds weight to your argument. I so in awe of your intelligence because of it.

  40. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    uh, lawyer, where are you?

    ps sidharta is a chinese guy. won’t be long before the 90 pounders make their own nationalistic bullshit show. we ain’t seen nothing yet.

  41. Chemboy your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    “Fact is, virtually all North American all-African American shows are comedies.
    Sitcoms, comedies, much the same.”

    Or maybe that’s just the ones you watch…Think about that for a second.

    “It’s pretty much well documented that this is another form of racism. Interestingly, though, it persists on the brown screen.”

    So, how do you explain ‘Oprah’?

  42. wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    instead of pointing out 1 in a 100, why don’t you look at the 99 out of 100?

    Let me make it easier for you. Urkel is not quite the same as Dawson’s. If that doesn’t do it, I think this is hopeless and pointless, but the next time you hear the same from someone who is not wjk, at least credit wjk for having opened your eyes to something you’ve been numb to.

  43. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Oprah isn’t a comedy?

  44. Chemboy your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    #42,

    1 out of 100? Come on…You forgot the half-dozen TV shows that are hosted by Tyra Banks, all the African American news anchors, reporters, and sports commentators.

    Better yet, have at Canadian TV. Besides on ‘Hockey Night in Canada’, there aren’t many white faces to be seen there (sure, I can mention it…remember you’re the one who isn’t sticking to topic…remember, a bad K-pop video?).

  45. Chemboy your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    “Urkel is not quite the same as Dawson’s.”

    One was a sitcom that started airing in the 80’s and the other is a teen drama produced in the 90’s…Obviously not the same. It’s like comparing Saved by the Bell (Screech, the white equivalent to Urkel) with Beverly Hills 90210.

  46. wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    it is hopeless to continue with your mind, but may I ask you to name the

    AfAm equivalent of 90210?
    AfAm equivalent of Dawson’s?

    If all you can think of is Moesha, then, I have a valid point, don’t I?

    It’s okay, kid.

  47. The Gooky Monster your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    this all boils down to men thinking women are their property.

    when t.o. did that MNF skit with nicollette sheridan from desperate housewives, quite a bit of the whitey male population in the states went ballistic.

    i say: let ho’s be ho’s. let’em fuck whoever they wanna fuck. why you spend your time and energy hating? use that time and energy to go out more and get some more punani.

  48. Zerosum your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    Saori has her own music band too. I saw her on TV singing away to some very cutesy pop beats!

  49. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    ah, the expat sure is an expert in clouding the issue, ain’t s/he? let me clarify:

    white whiney dude in korea whines that korean men don’t give him a show showing him taking the korean man’s women away. i pointed out the white man wouldn’t do it either with regards to black men taking their women away. the expats’ response is to bring up comedy shows or ricky ricardo to prove it ain’t so but still can’t produce a hit show in which the leads are a black man and white woman in love with one another.

    the expat demands korean men show ‘the reality’ of a group of people who represent less than a percentage point of it’s population while he can’t bring himself to do the same for a sinificant portion of america’s population.

    because he can’t, he brings up ‘moesha’ or some ‘flava’ bullshit wrapped up in oprah. in other words, he tries to change the subject. whiney expat ain’t no different than the korean man he whines about.

    lastly, you spend a lot time talking shit about koreans, sonagi. LOTS. you all over the internet posting LONG posts about how koreans need to do it your way. so, how about you wipe that koreaphobic phlegm off that ugly mug of yours and think before you speak? you done got schooled. done got. got it?

    ps lawyer, whre are you?

    btw, don’t forget that america is 30% black, latino, and asian. america got no choice in the matter with regards to having ethnic shows. korea does. got?

  50. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    btw, if korean men gave expat a platform, this is how it would go:

    pawi: mr white, thanks for being on our show.

    white: yeah, thanks. i take your woman. korean men just bounce off me.

    pawi: uh…what made you decide to come to korea?

    white: yeah, i take your women. they all want me. i leave the ugly ones for you. korean men just bounce off me.

    pawi: uh…do you like korean food?

    white: yeah, i take your women. korean men just bounce off me.

    pawi: uh, do you like seoul?

    white: korean parents need to teach their children not to stare at me. i take your women. korean men just bounce off me.

    pawi: what got you interested in korea?

    white: i couldn’t girlfriend so i thought i’d go somewhere where there were very few of my kind so i would stand out. that way, i can be brad pitt when i’m really will ferrell. i take your women. korean men just bounce off me.

    pawi: you speak korean vvey well.

    white: korean baks need to give me a credit card even though i won’t be here long and refuse to be part of korean society. i take your women. korean men just bounce off me.

    pawi: thank you, mr white for coming to our new show. any last words?

    white: yeah, i take your women. korean men just bounce off me.

  51. Chris your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Pawi. I’d like to call you a moron, an idiot or a brainless toad, but I fear that would be an insult people of that ilk. Henceforth I dub thee the Gibberwocky (apologies to Lewis Carrol).

    Jabberwocky

  52. KrZ your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    “taking the korean man’s women away”

    I think you may be confused about something here. While women have mass and volume, much like your car, laptop or other possessions, you cannot actual “own” them. They are classified as “humans”, at least in most modern countries. As such they have “human rights”, which basically prevent them from being owned. Recognizing and accepting this will help you lead a happier life. If I felt upset every time I saw a white woman with a man of another race, my life would be filled with anger and discomfort. Instead, since I don’t feel as though I “own” anyone I have no emotional response to any of the rainbow mixture of interracial couples I encounter on a daily basis. I think you should give it a shot!

  53. arthjm your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    I caught a bit of the show awhile back when there was a posting of it…to be honest, it wasn’t that bad. Certainly didn’t seem to be a show where girls talk about how the guys over there are studs, which is what some seem to allude to.

    Seemed more or less a show discussing the positive or odd things a foreigner might experience down here…and let’s be honest, it’s usually better to listen to that kind of stuff when the person talking is a good looking girl, regardless of the viewers gender.

  54. Siddhartha your flag
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Pawi,
    My identify is really important enough for you to tell others in this discussion..Don’t you? Since you asked for it, let this big Chinese brother tell you something. Chinese government’s nationalistic self indulgent/propoganda shows are already on CCTV9 (Chinese government channel) all over the world. It is in English or English subtitle for audience like you. Watch it yourelf and understand why expats feel Korean show like Misuda is no different.

    PS JJangae and Gaoli Bangji are no different..

  55. Chemboy your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 12:20 am | Permalink

    “AfAm equivalent of 90210?
    AfAm equivalent of Dawson’s?”

    Baldwin Hills.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_Hills_(TV_series)

    #50,

    You’re a racist. I’m for banning you indeterminately.

    “ah, the expat sure is an expert in clouding the issue, ain’t s/he?”

    Who brought first up African Americans in this thread?

  56. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 12:38 am | Permalink

    talk about your own people, sid. talk about your own people.

  57. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 12:50 am | Permalink

    btw, sid, if some chinese guy was invited on the ‘today’ show and spent his time talking about everything wrong with america, you think that would go over well with the american people? your korean friend must be pretty low class.

  58. Chemboy your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    “indeterminately”?

    Must be the jetlag. I meant to write “indefinitely”.

    #56,57,

    Ignoring my last few comments? I guess someone knows to shut up when he’s been put in his place.

  59. Siddhartha your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 2:06 am | Permalink

    Pawi,
    #56
    This is Korean theme blog..I talk about “MY” people in other blogs..You really need to get over that..so enough said!

    #57
    Like I said it was lame stuffs..He even said he tried to be funny but never in a mean spirit..The guy is straight shooter and all. Yes. Definately immature. But not low class. Answer to your question, Americans sensibility will let it go..but NOT for East Asians.

  60. wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 3:26 am | Permalink

    you know chem dude,

    I know I haven’t watched tv shows for many years in a row,

    But, I don’t think Baldwin Hills is a tv show. Even if it is, that’s 1 in how many? It surely ain’t no 7th Heaven.

    Dude, I’m just pointing out something that’s heavily documented in American television history.

    And, it’s clearly apparent here that it has never even come to the attention of some, white or whatever.

    I’m not even making this up. Data supports it.

  61. wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 3:29 am | Permalink

    by the way, if they can’t even speak Korean fluently, why are they making careers singing in Korean?

    I’m not against them trying to get in the South Korean entertainment business. Do it, follow your dreams.

    But, personally as a music fan, I think anyone singing is a slap in the face of the profession.

    acting is okay. Every acting industry has people who are there just for the looks.

  62. wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 3:32 am | Permalink

    well, my bad, it is a tv series. But, so what? My point is not disproven.

    Black Entertainment Network?

    You are stretching.

    Then, do you want me to qualify Korean dramas as proof that Korean males have a wide open highway in Hollywood without the need to say “Hai-ya” and fly around in the air?

    Just sit down, man.

  63. wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 3:33 am | Permalink

    and it’s probably a reality show. No real actors.

  64. Posted July 8, 2008 at 3:35 am | Permalink

    Pawi,

    Aren’t you married to a Japanese lady? Thus, doesn’t that mean you’ve “taken one away” from those dastardly Nihon aggressors?

  65. KrZ your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 3:59 am | Permalink

    Do you know of any links discussing what you are talking about WJK? Wikipedia or some journal articles, something along those lines?

    Just curious… My google fu is failing me.

  66. slim your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 4:07 am | Permalink

    29 You made a statement, which was proven to be false. Now you want to gripe about the popularity of said show?

    They don’t call pawi the Cal Ripken, Jr of cheating at paintball for nothing….

  67. Netizen Kim your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 5:03 am | Permalink

    Yeah, I know, I know. I didn’t mean a show with waegook men in thong underwear dancing for Korean milfs, but a more general talk show. Pawi could be the MC :)

    If I had lots of money I would produce such talk show loosely based on Jerry Springer and the Marmot’s Hole comment section where any expat off the street is given his soapbox should be a regular feature on Korean prime-time TV. A certain white guy in a hanbok could be the host. Pawi could be the English-to-Korean subtitler for the no-speaky Kongrishees. I think it would be fun.

    That was a complete joke, dude — both in respect of the show being planned, and me being on it. You should know by now that a show about foreign men with Korean women would not go down!

    Mr Carr, the closet media attention-whore that he is, harbors grand dreams of making appearances on a TV show where horny Korean ajummas worship foreign cock and later having his own music video featuring a certain dull, uninspired legal consultant salaryman with a mid-life crisis by day turns into CHARISMA MAN by night.

  68. Nambangui horangi your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 5:45 am | Permalink

    Is there anybody who has actually seen the video and can tell us a bit more about it? I’ve tried to get it going on three different machines with different browsers and operating systems and haven’t gotten anywhere? Leaving aside all the pros and cons of Misuda, I’ve always found Eva quite appealing……

  69. Nambangui horangi your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 5:46 am | Permalink

    Is there anybody who has actually seen the video and can tell us a bit more about it? I’ve tried to get it going on three different machines with different browsers and operating systems and haven’t gotten anywhere? Leaving aside all the pros and cons of Misuda, I’ve always found Eva quite appealing……

  70. wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 6:13 am | Permalink

    “from BBC news…”
    …Black US TV stars stuck in comedy…

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/en.....027161.stm

    “It ain’t a African Am drama major networks want, it’s a AfAm comedy, they want. And that, is progress !?”

    http://www.allbusiness.com/ser.....392-1.html

    http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms.....804707_ITM

    In 1996, African Americans accounted for 16% of the characters in prime-time television on the four most watched networks. About half of those characters played major roles; one third appeared in sitcoms; slightly more than one third appeared in crime programs; and none appeared in evening soap operas, such as Melrose Place (Mastro & Greenberg, 2000)….

    “No Melrose Place? That’s dating back…”

    In their analysis of African-American families in entertainment television, Dates and Stroman (2001) distinguished between drama and situation comedy programming. They concluded that when drama programs revolve around the lives and concerns of African Americans, the programs tend to last only a season or two. Overall, they concluded, “African American characters were likely to appear in a situation comedy as a generally competent member of a middle-class, two-parent family” (p. 218). In describing the once popular situation comedy Martin, Dates and Stroman (2001) concluded that

    “Only a season or two!”

    “Martin ain’t Dawson’s Creek”

    stuff in quotes from the brain of wjk.

    enjoy.

    “In Living Color ain’t West Wing.”

  71. wjk, 검은 머리 외국인 your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 6:21 am | Permalink

    notice how network leaders truly believe they are doing something good by having this groups sitcom, and that group’s sitcom in the prime time line up.

    Wait a minute. That sounds very familiar. Marge Cho started out that way.

    Yup. Put in a Indian sitcom, a Vietnamese sitcom, a Korean sitcom, a Persian sitcom, more sitcoms, sitcoms for every ethnic group !

    white people on prime time dramas !

    Because?

    Must be a Dallas thing.

  72. dogbert your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 6:24 am | Permalink

    Don’t dis the power of comedy.

    Richard Pryor probably did more for the cause of civil rights than Sydney Poitier.

  73. Zonath your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 7:01 am | Permalink

    In 1996, African Americans accounted for 16% of the characters in prime-time television on the four most watched networks

    16%? Wow. Considering that african-americans comprise about 13% of the total population of the United States, you’re right… African-americans are grossly underrepresented in television.

    Now, I dunno why exactly you want to see an African-american soap opera (since my opinion is that Aaron Spelling ruined television), but if you’re really itching to see some quality african-american family dramas (and I know you don’t really…) then check out Lincoln Heights over on ABC Family or else the old Showtime series Soul Food, four seasons of which are now on DVD (and also in reruns on BET, but you’ve already shown your disdain for that network…) And heck, if you’re really looking for a soap opera, try Passions, which did have some african-american characters, even though it isn’t quite segregated enough for your standards.

  74. abcdefg your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    Something superficial about the analysis provided here. I will only suggest that although there have been shows like Moesha, Sista Sista, etc (most of which were not mainstream or were relegated to the “Black” televesion stations like the now defunct UPN and so forth) and although there may have been positive depictions of BM/WF relationships on TV, these shows and depictions may have had a context or a background. Perhaps the shows were controversial or they were ideological, affected, or forced, in their own way. If there were black characters on mainstream shows, and if these characters weren’t playing stereotypes, perhaps they were there as token characters put forward by liberal people who once upon a time recognized the important social need for installing diversity for the media depictions of America’s citizens. And now (and only recently) with enough repetition it seems we’ve forgotten about what these shows were meant to be doing in the first place, ideologically speaking. — The strife and background tensions have faded away, we’ve reached new norms, and the weaker, more perfunctory social critics among us don’t have a clue.

  75. pawikirogi your flag
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    lawyer, i’m still waiting for your response. hey, you started it. now finish it.

  76. Chemboy your flag
    Posted July 9, 2008 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    “Black Entertainment Network?

    You are stretching.”

    Fucking racist.

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