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		<title>By: Pictures of Violent Anti-US Beef Protests In Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pictures of Violent Anti-US Beef Protests In Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lee Myung-bak has ordered a &#8220;crackdown&#8221; on the violent protesters but just like with any other &#8220;crackdown&#8221; in Korea it will do [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lee Myung-bak has ordered a &#8220;crackdown&#8221; on the violent protesters but just like with any other &#8220;crackdown&#8221; in Korea it will do [...]</p>
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		<title>By: swlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>swlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@18 Yes, Germany would have packed them off on trains. Nobody fucks with Germans. Thats a nation to admire. That and Rwanda, which successfully developed a model for the privatisation of democratic policy support structures, known commonly by the acronym for its official title Mutual Assistance Community: Human Empowerment, Training, Education
@16 Well said Knox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@18 Yes, Germany would have packed them off on trains. Nobody fucks with Germans. Thats a nation to admire. That and Rwanda, which successfully developed a model for the privatisation of democratic policy support structures, known commonly by the acronym for its official title Mutual Assistance Community: Human Empowerment, Training, Education<br />
@16 Well said Knox</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 swlee It was the protesters that got violent first. They were the ones who tore up much of downtown Seoul spray painting and acting riotous. They tore up government property trying to march on the blue house and they were the ones who engaged police first. Just keeping it in perspective like you said. If they stayed peaceable, that's another story. Actually, I'm surprised the police commanders on the scene kept it as civil as they did. Police would have been cracking skulls if that happened elsewhere, like Germany for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15 swlee It was the protesters that got violent first. They were the ones who tore up much of downtown Seoul spray painting and acting riotous. They tore up government property trying to march on the blue house and they were the ones who engaged police first. Just keeping it in perspective like you said. If they stayed peaceable, that&#8217;s another story. Actually, I&#8217;m surprised the police commanders on the scene kept it as civil as they did. Police would have been cracking skulls if that happened elsewhere, like Germany for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Goethe's Lover</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/25/lmb-orders-crackdown-on-violent-demonstrations/comment-page-1/#comment-166431</link>
		<dc:creator>Goethe's Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, R. Elgin.

The answer is no.

Possibilities:

1. Posts in North Korea. North Korea uses Chinese IP addresses.
2. Use of Chinese proxy servers.
3. Posts in REAL china which was asked by people in  Koreas.

The commenter may have thought of 1.
 
The above 2nd method is dangerous.
You see one example: http://law4u.net/wiki/index.php/Law4u:%EA%B0%9C%EC%9D%B8%EC%A0%95%EB%B3%B4_%EC%A0%95%EC%B1%85

Someone tried to log in as Administrator at PC center for law college graduate students of Seoul National University through  a computer in the United Kingdom. I think the one at SNU may have been frightened. Hahaha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, R. Elgin.</p>
<p>The answer is no.</p>
<p>Possibilities:</p>
<p>1. Posts in North Korea. North Korea uses Chinese IP addresses.<br />
2. Use of Chinese proxy servers.<br />
3. Posts in REAL china which was asked by people in  Koreas.</p>
<p>The commenter may have thought of 1.</p>
<p>The above 2nd method is dangerous.<br />
You see one example: <a href="http://law4u.net/wiki/index.php/Law4u:%EA%B0%9C%EC%9D%B8%EC%A0%95%EB%B3%B4_%EC%A0%95%EC%B1%85" rel="nofollow">http://law4u.net/wiki/index.ph.....5%EC%B1%85</a></p>
<p>Someone tried to log in as Administrator at PC center for law college graduate students of Seoul National University through  a computer in the United Kingdom. I think the one at SNU may have been frightened. Hahaha.</p>
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		<title>By: knox</title>
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		<dc:creator>knox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More than anything, these clips and the pro government nature of your responses to the protests illustrate what a media war this is.  Foreigners read almost exclusively progovernment dailies (English Chosun, Korea Times, Korea Herald all very connected to the GNP) and naturally espouse disdain for these, what is it one of you called these people, animals?  The chosun shows their scary clips, ohmynews shows their scary clips, and teams are chosen.  It's comedy.  Apparently, the blue teams hires thugs to beat buses and make protesters appear unruly, and for their part, the red team shows clips from 20 years ago and passes it off as police brutality yesterday.  Perhaps, you imagine you are immune from the subterfuge, but it seems to me, that if your viewpoint is consistent with the media you engage, you are not much different from the animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than anything, these clips and the pro government nature of your responses to the protests illustrate what a media war this is.  Foreigners read almost exclusively progovernment dailies (English Chosun, Korea Times, Korea Herald all very connected to the GNP) and naturally espouse disdain for these, what is it one of you called these people, animals?  The chosun shows their scary clips, ohmynews shows their scary clips, and teams are chosen.  It&#8217;s comedy.  Apparently, the blue teams hires thugs to beat buses and make protesters appear unruly, and for their part, the red team shows clips from 20 years ago and passes it off as police brutality yesterday.  Perhaps, you imagine you are immune from the subterfuge, but it seems to me, that if your viewpoint is consistent with the media you engage, you are not much different from the animals.</p>
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		<title>By: swlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>swlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The police should have let the violent protester gain a bit of ground by pulling back, then cut them off away from the cameras, and then “help” the
cowards come to their senses"
Are you actually advocating the state use violence against its citizens?
Because you disagree with certain aspects of the beef import issue?
The ignorance and arrogance of you foreigners is staggering.
Lets see where your sympathy lies if people in your own country cared enough to be enfranchised in the machinations of a democracy, and the state broke its social contract. Sorry Hitest, your not alone as a commenter, but please people, keep things in perspective. Few of you have anything at stake here apart from imperialist pride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The police should have let the violent protester gain a bit of ground by pulling back, then cut them off away from the cameras, and then “help” the<br />
cowards come to their senses&#8221;<br />
Are you actually advocating the state use violence against its citizens?<br />
Because you disagree with certain aspects of the beef import issue?<br />
The ignorance and arrogance of you foreigners is staggering.<br />
Lets see where your sympathy lies if people in your own country cared enough to be enfranchised in the machinations of a democracy, and the state broke its social contract. Sorry Hitest, your not alone as a commenter, but please people, keep things in perspective. Few of you have anything at stake here apart from imperialist pride.</p>
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		<title>By: Janus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mao sent the overzealous youth into the Chinese countryside. Let's send these ones into North Korea where they can bask in freedom from eating US products.

And freedom from eating, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mao sent the overzealous youth into the Chinese countryside. Let&#8217;s send these ones into North Korea where they can bask in freedom from eating US products.</p>
<p>And freedom from eating, period.</p>
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		<title>By: hitest</title>
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		<dc:creator>hitest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10  Thanks for the clip. 

Man, I think the police were well contained. 

The protesters are cowards, feigning bravido because the cameras are 
rolling. They act like little yappy lap dogs barking and nipping at the heals of passers by when their "owner" is around, but run hiding for cover from their own shadows when caught alone.

The police should have let the violent protester gain a bit of ground by pulling back, then cut them off away from the cameras, and then "help" the
cowards come to their senses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10  Thanks for the clip. </p>
<p>Man, I think the police were well contained. </p>
<p>The protesters are cowards, feigning bravido because the cameras are<br />
rolling. They act like little yappy lap dogs barking and nipping at the heals of passers by when their &#8220;owner&#8221; is around, but run hiding for cover from their own shadows when caught alone.</p>
<p>The police should have let the violent protester gain a bit of ground by pulling back, then cut them off away from the cameras, and then &#8220;help&#8221; the<br />
cowards come to their senses.</p>
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		<title>By: Knickerbocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knickerbocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a thought: arm the police with Texas baby back ribs. When the protesters get too rowdy, they get beaten back with "Mad Cow-tainted" Texas beef. Can you imagine the carnage? Protesters would almost certainly immediately die from the highly contagious nature of the illness. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a thought: arm the police with Texas baby back ribs. When the protesters get too rowdy, they get beaten back with &#8220;Mad Cow-tainted&#8221; Texas beef. Can you imagine the carnage? Protesters would almost certainly immediately die from the highly contagious nature of the illness. <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cm</title>
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		<dc:creator>cm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stroller brigade with moms toting their children in strollers are battling the police with water cannons right now...  

only in Korea can we see such idiocy... unbelievable, yet not surprising.

Maybe the police should just disband, and let the animals have their way into the Blue House. If those clowns end up trashing and burning down the Blue House, it will give strength to the government to give the authority to the police to shoot in self defense, and also, may even turn the tide of public opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stroller brigade with moms toting their children in strollers are battling the police with water cannons right now&#8230;  </p>
<p>only in Korea can we see such idiocy&#8230; unbelievable, yet not surprising.</p>
<p>Maybe the police should just disband, and let the animals have their way into the Blue House. If those clowns end up trashing and burning down the Blue House, it will give strength to the government to give the authority to the police to shoot in self defense, and also, may even turn the tide of public opinion.</p>
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