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	<title>Comments on: Prosecutors Begin Investigation of &#8216;PD Notebook&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: bumfromkorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>bumfromkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw the KBS news report of the arrests of the protesters and the renegotiated deals.  Unfortunately for me, I ate dinner four minutes beforehand.  To rid myself of the foul taste, I turned on Fox News Channel for some form of journalism ethics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw the KBS news report of the arrests of the protesters and the renegotiated deals.  Unfortunately for me, I ate dinner four minutes beforehand.  To rid myself of the foul taste, I turned on Fox News Channel for some form of journalism ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PD Notebook has already done the Evil English Teacher thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PD Notebook has already done the Evil English Teacher thing.</p>
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		<title>By: swlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>swlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PD Notebook sounds like the piece of key evidence needed to put away English Teachers in Korea. 
Constable Kim Plod: Where you keep you p.d. notebook.

Ha ha, all English teachers in Korea are viewed as pedophiles.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PD Notebook sounds like the piece of key evidence needed to put away English Teachers in Korea.<br />
Constable Kim Plod: Where you keep you p.d. notebook.</p>
<p>Ha ha, all English teachers in Korea are viewed as pedophiles.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#40 That kind of media coverage doesn't exist in Korea. It's either them or us, no middle ground. The only other solution I can think of is to transplant all Korean students in other western countries for twenty years and then let then gradually come back to Korea. We might have more than left and right media after that....just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#40 That kind of media coverage doesn&#8217;t exist in Korea. It&#8217;s either them or us, no middle ground. The only other solution I can think of is to transplant all Korean students in other western countries for twenty years and then let then gradually come back to Korea. We might have more than left and right media after that&#8230;.just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting how the Korean Government has kept up the PR about how much internet connection there is in Korea, implying that this would help make Koreans smarter but instead, it has &lt;a href="http://english.chosunilbo.com/w21data/html/news/200806/200806240021.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;lead to gross misinformation and rumor-mongering&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;blockquote&gt;Junior Naver, the children's site of the country's largest web portal, is a prime example. When typing in the search term "mad cow disease,” users connected to the Junior Knowledge Section, which is full of preposterous questions and answers posted by young children and students. (which were just wrong)&lt;/blockquote&gt;I guess the newer forms of media are a real headache since they lead to more mischief and potential harm when left to the average person, who seems to &lt;b&gt;lack critical skills&lt;/b&gt;.

Maybe it is just an education problem after all, only now it is a wired problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting how the Korean Government has kept up the PR about how much internet connection there is in Korea, implying that this would help make Koreans smarter but instead, it has <a href="http://english.chosunilbo.com/w21data/html/news/200806/200806240021.html" rel="nofollow">lead to gross misinformation and rumor-mongering</a>.<br />
<blockquote>Junior Naver, the children&#8217;s site of the country&#8217;s largest web portal, is a prime example. When typing in the search term &#8220;mad cow disease,” users connected to the Junior Knowledge Section, which is full of preposterous questions and answers posted by young children and students. (which were just wrong)</p></blockquote>
<p>I guess the newer forms of media are a real headache since they lead to more mischief and potential harm when left to the average person, who seems to <b>lack critical skills</b>.</p>
<p>Maybe it is just an education problem after all, only now it is a wired problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Mad Cow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Mad Cow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...victim of the liberal education system."

Mmm, no.  The Korean education system is far from being liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;victim of the liberal education system.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mmm, no.  The Korean education system is far from being liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: tomcoyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomcoyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example of the current spat of loony sense of Korean press freedom, from today's &lt;i&gt;JoongAng Daily&lt;/i&gt;:

"The Seoul Central District Prosecutors’ Office said yesterday that a 46-year-old journalist was indicted with detention on charges of spreading rumors on the Internet that police strangled a female protester.

"According to prosecutors, the 46-year-old journalist, identified only as Choi, posted a message with a fabricated photo on the Daum Internet portal on June 2. 'A woman in her 20s or 30s died instantly when she was strangled as police tried to arrest protesters,' the man allegedly wrote.

"According to prosecutors, the woman in the photo was a police corporal who was being transported to a hospital due to difficulty breathing. The suspect tampered with the photo and posted it to back his claim, prosecutors said."

There is a clear difference between freedom of the press/speech and out &#38; out slander.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example of the current spat of loony sense of Korean press freedom, from today&#8217;s <i>JoongAng Daily</i>:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Seoul Central District Prosecutors’ Office said yesterday that a 46-year-old journalist was indicted with detention on charges of spreading rumors on the Internet that police strangled a female protester.</p>
<p>&#8220;According to prosecutors, the 46-year-old journalist, identified only as Choi, posted a message with a fabricated photo on the Daum Internet portal on June 2. &#8216;A woman in her 20s or 30s died instantly when she was strangled as police tried to arrest protesters,&#8217; the man allegedly wrote.</p>
<p>&#8220;According to prosecutors, the woman in the photo was a police corporal who was being transported to a hospital due to difficulty breathing. The suspect tampered with the photo and posted it to back his claim, prosecutors said.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a clear difference between freedom of the press/speech and out &amp; out slander.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The only media that reported this were the conservative prints like the Chosun, Joongang, and Dongah&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;The same Joongang that last year called for more strict measures to keep out bones and other risky materials in US beef?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Chojoongdong has changed their views since the election.  When Roh was in office, the media was unanimously opposed to opening the beef market, publishing all kinds of scare stories.  After 2MB took office, Chojoongdong switched sides.  From what I've seen among the major media organizations, it's an either/or, pro-government or anti-government with a no-man's land in between.  If a moderate, balanced newspaper exists, I'd like to know which one it is.

On another thread, Slim made the comment that 2MB's reforms would be doomed by "French-style obstructionism."  Judging by what I've heard from Koreans and read on both sides of the divide, I would agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The only media that reported this were the conservative prints like the Chosun, Joongang, and Dongah</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The same Joongang that last year called for more strict measures to keep out bones and other risky materials in US beef?</p></blockquote>
<p>Chojoongdong has changed their views since the election.  When Roh was in office, the media was unanimously opposed to opening the beef market, publishing all kinds of scare stories.  After 2MB took office, Chojoongdong switched sides.  From what I&#8217;ve seen among the major media organizations, it&#8217;s an either/or, pro-government or anti-government with a no-man&#8217;s land in between.  If a moderate, balanced newspaper exists, I&#8217;d like to know which one it is.</p>
<p>On another thread, Slim made the comment that 2MB&#8217;s reforms would be doomed by &#8220;French-style obstructionism.&#8221;  Judging by what I&#8217;ve heard from Koreans and read on both sides of the divide, I would agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Chopsticks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chopsticks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35,

This kyopo has been eating US beef for many years. I have eaten both Hanwoo and Aussie beef and compared to US beef, I will take US beef any day.

Most Koreans I know who have lived in the US for 20+ years think this issue was cooked up by left-wing groups. They've been away from Korea for a long time and have pretty much been assimilated into US society and Americanized to a fair degree. From my experience, it's the newer immigrants that lack the critical thinking skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35,</p>
<p>This kyopo has been eating US beef for many years. I have eaten both Hanwoo and Aussie beef and compared to US beef, I will take US beef any day.</p>
<p>Most Koreans I know who have lived in the US for 20+ years think this issue was cooked up by left-wing groups. They&#8217;ve been away from Korea for a long time and have pretty much been assimilated into US society and Americanized to a fair degree. From my experience, it&#8217;s the newer immigrants that lack the critical thinking skills.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35 The gyopos I know think Koreans have made Korea the laughing stock of Asia. Which of course is true.

Then you get the draft dodging gyopos who don't know shit about what it's like actually living here and well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 The gyopos I know think Koreans have made Korea the laughing stock of Asia. Which of course is true.</p>
<p>Then you get the draft dodging gyopos who don&#8217;t know shit about what it&#8217;s like actually living here and well&#8230;</p>
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