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And the netizens are none too pleased about Lee Ji-seon’s ethnic costume. The linked photo is definitely safe for work - sorry, guys.
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The netizens obviously haven’t seen “Saulabi: Time Travel to the Root of Samurai”, a Korean movie in which we find out that Samurai actually originate in Korea.
I don’t know what she’s wearing or doing but it doesn’t look authentically Japanese. It looks like a bad Tarantino-style put-together of bastardized appropriations from multiple cultures. In other words, it could be American.
Agree with Netizen Kim there, the costume doesn’t look like a samurai costume.
Very nice traditional samurai shoes.
“And the netizens are none too pleased about Lee Ji-seon’s ethnic costume.” ”
Korean netizens seldom seem pleased. About anything.
“The linked photo is definitely safe for work - sorry, guys.”
Well, you can’t have everything. She looks good, even with the garb (be it authentic or not.)
Funny, that doesn’t look the least bit like a samurai costume to me . . . it does, however, look exactly like how they dress up the “Shilla” folk every time they do some crazy “reenactment” or whathave you down in Gyeongju . . .
“Korean netizens seldom seem pleased. About anything.”
How about ‘never’?
I am sorry to say that people need to grow up a bit. “S*** happens.”
I admit that it was a long time ago, but you don’t see me crying every time someone does something stupid concerning the Boer War. Who isn’t from a country with at least one sad story.
On the reverse side, and ignoring that the people only looked at what they wanted to see, again, I have to wonder if they just might, maybe, see the issue that people had with the Coreana adverts.
However, even to that, I would like to ask a few people to just get a grip. It was bad, it was sad, it is done. Remember it, but learn from it and get over it.
She does look like a “Shrine Maiden” in Shinto Shrine.
http://thumbnail.image.rakuten...../45542.jpg
What’s more disturbing? The figurine linked in #9? Or its author’s awareness of it?
#10
Probably both.
But tell you the truth, I googled with keyword “巫女”and the picture popped up.
You can see tons of girls in that outfit (minus sword and the boobs) in Yasukuni Shrine, Tokyo.
must be a slow news day
Because I like to state the obvious: FAR sexier than any hanbok could hope to be
Another post about Korean netizens getting pissed off about trivial things… Must be a slow news week in Korea.
Can’t blame you… I’m reminded every time I watch the CBC that the Korean media creates a very claustrophobic image of the world.
PS. The protests against the Beijing Olympics are still going on strong, in case you were wondering.
“FAR sexier than any hanbok could hope to be”
The Japanese beat Korea in sexy outfits - take that Korea!
And yes, the outfit it a poor imitation of a shinto shrine outfit - the kind generally worn by 12-year-old girls…. minus the cheap-hooker shoes.
It’s nice to see she got herself an Elton John loin-cloth, though.
She looks like a typical waitress in one of those millions of Korean-run sushi bars you find in N. America and elsewhere in the world. Trying hard to look authentic Japanese but falling a tad short.
I would say given her Korean features, she definitely does not look like a samurai…more like a Chinese person from ancient times.
the sword looks chinese. look at how straight it is.
http://token.cz/external/meibo...../index.htm
#1, Probably don’t even need a movie reference, the concept of samurai dates even further back to China (surprise surprise).
I think figbash hit the nail on the head, any similarities are probably due to the Koreans bringing their goods down to Japan way back; it’s probably not so much the clothing that sets off the hostility but more the sword+stance.
#17: Guessing you’ve never been to Japan? Japanese look closer to Koreans than Chinese. Koreans also look more Mongolian than Chinese, and if anything, pushing the clock back would probably highlight even more differences due to less Mongolian influence in China.
Wow, the concept of a militarized social caste is originally Chinese? I better go burn my anthropology books.
Kimonos on the other hand can be traced back to Tang China…
I’ve been to Japan. Those cheekbones look Korean to me.
#19
You don’t seem to get shakuhachi’s sarcasm. And you totally don’t understand the concept of samurai.
Wrong (NSFW!):
http://www.cleanpornhost.com/users/korea/kc03.html
#13,
Right on the spot!
What gives? If they are so upset about the costume, why aren’t they upset when they see a Japanese restuarant for instance? Or get upset and give a hard time to Japanese restuarant workers?
A bunch of arses, thats why.
# 17,
I blame assimilation and market forces. The Japanese have chosen to assimilate (both socially and genetically) faster than most ethnic groups. Thus, a Japanese American with any recognizable roots to the motherland hardly exists any more. However, there is a need for Japanese food in the U.S. so Asians of other varieties (usually Korean, but sometimes Chinese) come in and fill the vaccuum. Plus, it’s not always confined to Korean and Chinese owned Japanese restaurants. Ever eat at Gyu-Kaku? Staffed by mostly college aged Asian Americans and Gyu-Kaku is Japanese owned!
#20, Pick up on learning to read from there too? I joke :), and no need to burn your texts, rigorousness is excised more in academic journal fare. To clarify, which I think I should since I find it can cause offense among people, I didn’t say she looks Japanese (who have quite a varied ethnic make up); Riyo Mori having won Ms. Universe just last year, I can easily recall that Riyo had more prominent cheek bones than the girl in the post. I just meant that between Chinese/Japanese, they look closer to the latter.
# 20,
The hanbok might be traced back to the hanfu. 7th century Silla hanboks look suspiciously like hanfus. This isn’t suprising since Silla adopted a lot of Tang dress shortly before and immediately after the establishment of the alliance to defeat Baekje and Koguryo.
# 26,
I think we are talking about averages here. The Japanese girls I’ve spoken to all say that Korean women “tend to” have higher cheek bones vs. themselves.
It would make sense given that Japanese people are a mix of Northern Asian (i.e. peninsular)and native islander populations, which is certainly known for having quite different facial bone structures.
Can someone explain what Miss Indonesia is wearing in this photo?
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/ww.....26341.html
“The Japanese have chosen to assimilate (both socially and genetically) faster than most ethnic groups.”
waitaminit. it was a free choice and not due to.. uh… “vigorous encouragement?”
Oh so Lee Ji-seon’s costume was during the native dress competition!?!?!?!
I can see why other Koreans are upset.
Well, she could just be a real big time Korean nationalist and be taking THIS to it’s logical conclusion… However, I highly doubt it.
What a moron.
Well, Wangkon, let’s not to be too harsh.
I mean, it’s not like she pulled an Lee Seung-yeon and came out on stage wearing a comfort woman outfit.
(For those unfamiliar, a few years ago, attractive “talent” and talk show host Ms. Lee went to Palau to do a “nude” photo shoot that had her, in various stages of undress, posing as a comfort woman.
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Spectacularly stupid. She should have won some kind of Darwin Award for that one, which I guess in a sense she did, given the way it killed her career for a few years.)
Okay,
Upon further examination, it appears that she’s trying to be a Koguryo maiden with a Chinese straight sword (a dao), which was the typical sword used in both Korea and Japan during that period. However, it would help if she had a pommel sword, which is characteristic of dao like swords found in Korea. The sword had no pommel, thus it looked like a straight katana.
However, the outfit is generic anicent northeast asian, and not really distinctively Korean in anyway.
… thus it’s understandable why people got confused!
Lol the initial accusations are not even saying her clothes are like a Samurai. I love it… the translation would be “the clothes are too Japan-y”.
28Wangkon936,
Japan has numerous Yayoi Period archaeological dig sites throughout the archipelago. There are tons of Yayoi Period artifacts and quite a number of Yayoi bones that have been well reserched. The studies are going on, and so far the DNA indicates that majority of Yayoi people were not from the Korean Peninsula but from the Yangze River region and 山東Peninsula, China. 山東 Peninsula is where a southern Yangze River force, 越 state once expanded its territory after the famous 呉越 War in BC 473. Both 越 and 呉 war refugees made their way to Kyuushuu, Japan. Actually more ancient Yangze people had been coming ashore on Kyuushuu, Japan. If they made their way to Kyuushuu, probably to the Korean Peninsula as well. Just the Japanese side of the archaeological studies have proved the historical evidence more clearly.
One study done which was never published, never shown…Not to mention published by a Japanese newspaper.
Before that there are massive similarities between the tools and methods first introduce in Japan to the ones used in Korea at that time.
This is just more Japanese denial about the fact that Korea gave them civilization, religion among other things.
That dress looks like a modified hanbok. That shinto crap is a copy of the hanbok sorry to burst your bubble.
I didn’t know the Samurai wore dresses.
I have to disagree w/# 36 as it goes against the grain of a lot of research done in genetics and archeology of the Yayoi Period, which would point to a majority peninsular influence.
It would be helpful if camphortree at least provided a link to the studies that have pointed to his conclusions. Me? I’d have to refer back to William Wayne Farris’ “Sacred Texts and Buried Treasures,” Mark J. Hudson’s “Ruins of Identity,” Jared Diamond, Gina Barnes, among others.
I think it looks cool, whatever it is. However, for the Koreans, another controversy. If it is Yayoi Japanese (which would either be of Chinese or Korean influence) or just a jumble of differing Asian styles all thrown together in one outfit, the Koreans can’t look at it and say “You know what…that’s different and creative. I think it looks pretty cool.” But, no… Whatever. I think it’s creative.
wangkon: Yeah, my comment was more for tongue-in-cheek purposes in regards to the generalization. I wouldn’t say they look specifically like one ethnic group though, and it’s understandable due to their genetic diversity.
#36, Could explain why my Chinese students used to tell me how Japan was founded when 1000 men and women sailed off with some official looking for some fountain of youth. Something along the likes that…it’s been awhile.
#40, I’m sure they would, but the propensity and stigma for East Asians to claim x is copying x prevents it (no need to mention the whole irony of it…).
arthjm — there’s a legend that says during the Qin Dynasty, Qin Shi Huang sent Xu Fu across the seas to find the elixir of immortality around 219-220 BC. Xu Fu took many ships and crew, plus 3,000 virgin boys and girls on his voyage and never returned.
Since Xu Fu couldn’t find the elixir of immortality, he feared that he’d have been killed upon his return. So he decided to land in Japan and settle there.
It’s a pretty fantastic tale, and some historians claim that Xu Fu’s arrival, along with the knowledge and technologies he brought with him, caused the decline of Jomon civilization & rise of Yayoi culture:
http://www.asiawind.com/hakka/history.htm#japan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Fu
Needless to say, there’s no way to prove this tale, so consider it an entertaining read.
I wonder how much Mr. Trump earns through this women business.
#41
That Chinese legend does exist, and I recall it being written down in one of their chronicles. I guess this legend never made a blip on his Korea-centric radar screen. I wouldn’t be surprised if both Koreans and Japanese have some of their roots in the Yangtze river area, at least culturally. Rice cultivation must have come from that area.